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Tubby_Dawg
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Post deleted......why?
      #714421 - Thu Jul 29 2010 07:43 PM

I posted in a thread about Joe Haden' and it got deleted...is it because i refered to something from is twitter account? If so that is a very weak reason to delete my comment considering I only said I hope he is going to sign, because he said he is going to cleveland on his twitter.......I also talked about eric wright changing his number......I havent posted in these threads for a long time...and first time I do it gets the axe......seriously this place is hardly worth posting in anymore considering the other's that have had post deleted for very weak reasons..

Maybe you refs should lighten up and let us talk some dang football!

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~TuX~
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Re: Post deleted......why? [Re: Tubby_Dawg]
      #714448 - Thu Jul 29 2010 09:35 PM

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I posted in a thread about Joe Haden' and it got deleted...is it because i refered to something from is twitter account? If so that is a very weak reason to delete my comment considering I only said I hope he is going to sign, because he said he is going to cleveland on his twitter.......I also talked about eric wright changing his number......I havent posted in these threads for a long time...and first time I do it gets the axe......seriously this place is hardly worth posting in anymore considering the other's that have had post deleted for very weak reasons..

Maybe you refs should lighten up and let us talk some dang football!




It's probably the twitter thing.. I believe there was a big discussion about it awhile back, but we were not able to change any minds to loosen up about it... But i'm sure a Ref can correct me if i'm wrong.

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Tubby_Dawg
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Re: Post deleted......why? [Re: ~TuX~]
      #714566 - Fri Jul 30 2010 11:00 AM

i didnt link a twitter account, nor was my post only about him getting on a plane....it was more about how I hope we get him in camp on time, then i mentioned that he posted on twitter that he was heading to cleveland, and I said hopefully its to sign his contract.....pretty weak reason to delete other than a mod power trip

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Re: Post deleted......why? [Re: Tubby_Dawg]
      #714591 - Fri Jul 30 2010 11:50 AM

From the Rules of the Pound:

RUMORS

If you cannot cite a source when posting information to the board, please do not post it at all. Saying that you saw something on television or heard it on the radio is not sufficient as a valid source. Rumors do not lend to valid discussion and will be removed when seen by a moderator.


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Tubby_Dawg
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Re: Post deleted......why? [Re: Referee7]
      #714592 - Fri Jul 30 2010 11:53 AM

it wasnt a rumor, he posted on twitter that he was heading to cleveland, and I stated that I hope he is heading there to sign......not sure how you can get a rumor out of that.....it came from the players own verified twitter account words...

then me being excited said I hope he is going to sign....never said it was a slamdunk take it to the bank, cash it, and enjoy your purchase. Geez its like you guys dont want us to discuss our feelings or excitement about the upcoming season

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PrplPplEater
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Re: Post deleted......why? [Re: Tubby_Dawg]
      #714606 - Fri Jul 30 2010 12:29 PM

and twitter is not currently a recognized/permitted reference on here. The fact that twitter is not allowed here is nothing new.

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Re: Post deleted......why? [Re: Tubby_Dawg]
      #714812 - Sat Jul 31 2010 06:27 AM

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Geez its like you guys dont want us to discuss our feelings or excitement about the upcoming season






Just curious......how do you infer this? What led you to this conclusion?

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Re: Post deleted......why? [Re: PrplPplEater]
      #715475 - Mon Aug 02 2010 05:49 PM

Quote:

and twitter is not currently a recognized/permitted reference on here. The fact that twitter is not allowed here is nothing new.




Even though legitimate news outlets refer to it as a source.

The rules have hardly changed here though the internet has evolved.

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PrplPplEater
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Re: Post deleted......why? [Re: Ammo]
      #715479 - Mon Aug 02 2010 05:57 PM

Quote:

The rules have hardly changed here though the internet has evolved.




You say that as if it were a bad thing.

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DCDAWGFAN
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Re: Post deleted......why? [Re: Ammo]
      #715482 - Mon Aug 02 2010 06:12 PM

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Even though legitimate news outlets refer to it as a source.



Like ESPN and Keith Olberman?

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GMdawg
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Re: Post deleted......why? [Re: Ammo]
      #715494 - Mon Aug 02 2010 06:41 PM

There are way to many fake twitter accounts out there to consider twitter reliable IMO.

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Re: Post deleted......why? [Re: Ammo]
      #715529 - Mon Aug 02 2010 08:58 PM

Quote:

Quote:

and twitter is not currently a recognized/permitted reference on here. The fact that twitter is not allowed here is nothing new.




Even though legitimate news outlets refer to it as a source.

The rules have hardly changed here though the internet has evolved.




Is Al Gore your dad?

The internet has evolved alright - into a "anyone can post anything" kind of place. Blogs, twitter.........just because you read it somewhere doesn't mean it's true.


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Re: Post deleted......why? [Re: archbolddawg]
      #715543 - Mon Aug 02 2010 09:39 PM

I have a semi-legitimate question.

Along the lines of what we're discussing here, is Wikipedia a credible source?


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DawgMichelle
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Re: Post deleted......why? [Re: oobernoober]
      #715552 - Mon Aug 02 2010 10:10 PM

I vote no on Wikipedia. I use it at times, but certainly not for facts.

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Re: Post deleted......why? [Re: oobernoober]
      #715599 - Tue Aug 03 2010 06:35 AM

Quote:

I have a semi-legitimate question.

Along the lines of what we're discussing here, is Wikipedia a credible source?




Wikipedia isn't a news outlet, so no, it isn't a valid source.

As for whether or not it is valid for use as factual reference - everybody knows that Wiki is open to tampering and isn't always reliable. Go ahead and use it, but know that you may get laughed at for it.

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TopDawg16
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Re: Post deleted......why? [Re: GMdawg]
      #715638 - Tue Aug 03 2010 10:08 AM

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There are way to many fake twitter accounts out there to consider twitter reliable IMO.




Twitter verifies accounts.

I don't use Twitter, but I don't understand why a verified account, can't be used as a source

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PrplPplEater
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Re: Post deleted......why? [Re: TopDawg16]
      #715645 - Tue Aug 03 2010 10:21 AM

It will be, eventually, but not until I can automate the verification process as I am not going to expect or ask the Refs to check every single twitter link manually to ensure that it isn't from Joe Schmuckatelli.

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DCDAWGFAN
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Re: Post deleted......why? [Re: PrplPplEater]
      #715682 - Tue Aug 03 2010 11:25 AM

Dude I get some of my best info from Joe Schmukatelli...

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BrownsBabe
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Re: Post deleted......why? [Re: DCDAWGFAN]
      #715702 - Tue Aug 03 2010 12:00 PM

Dude, Joe's my cousin...paesano, youknowwhati'msayin? He gets the best scoop!

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DCDAWGFAN
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Re: Post deleted......why? [Re: BrownsBabe]
      #715746 - Tue Aug 03 2010 01:14 PM

Joe twittered a week ago that Favre is going to retire.

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Re: Post deleted......why? [Re: DCDAWGFAN]
      #715802 - Tue Aug 03 2010 02:26 PM

Quote:

Joe twittered a week ago that Favre is going to retire.




you should check back, he's already saying he's coming back (that press conference for 'next' week )

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GMdawg
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Re: Post deleted......why? [Re: TopDawg16]
      #715804 - Tue Aug 03 2010 02:29 PM

Quote:

Quote:

There are way to many fake twitter accounts out there to consider twitter reliable IMO.




Twitter verifies accounts.

I don't use Twitter, but I don't understand why a verified account, can't be used as a source




lol so does facebook yet I have seen those verified accounts that were fake.

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TopDawg16
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Re: Post deleted......why? [Re: GMdawg]
      #715874 - Tue Aug 03 2010 05:41 PM

I've never seen Facebook put a "Verified Account" patch on any pages...

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no_logo_required
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Re: Post deleted......why? [Re: no_logo_required]
      #715875 - Tue Aug 03 2010 05:41 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Joe twittered a week ago that Favre is going to retire.




you should check back, he's already saying he's coming back (that press conference for 'next' week )




Joe told ya so:

http://www.dawgtalkers.net/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/715873/Main/715665/#Post715873

Joe is now expecting a 2 day delay before the next retirement announcement.

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Re: Post deleted......why? [Re: TopDawg16]
      #715918 - Tue Aug 03 2010 08:05 PM

Yet many celebrities and pro athletes have them.

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kingodawg
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Re: Post deleted......why? [Re: DCDAWGFAN]
      #716015 - Wed Aug 04 2010 08:31 AM

Quote:

Joe twittered a week ago that Favre is going to retire.





This a rumor,where is the link with a paper of authenticity attached??


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Re: Post deleted......why? [Re: PrplPplEater]
      #716050 - Wed Aug 04 2010 09:58 AM

Quote:

It will be, eventually, but not until I can automate the verification process as I am not going to expect or ask the Refs to check every single twitter link manually to ensure that it isn't from Joe Schmuckatelli.




Dont they have to check the links anyways? Its actually very easy as the twitter site is a very simplistic setup. There is no searching, scrolling, its right there when you click next to the users name.

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Re: Post deleted......why? [Re: GMdawg]
      #716052 - Wed Aug 04 2010 10:02 AM

Quote:

Yet many celebrities and pro athletes have them.




Can you PM a link to a celebrity or pro athlete who has a "verified" Facebook account? I have never seen Facebook verify their accounts.

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GMdawg
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Re: Post deleted......why? [Re: brownsfan2119]
      #716064 - Wed Aug 04 2010 11:26 AM

Eli-Manning-Priv
Hila Duff-Privt
Payton Manning
Lacey Chabert
Piper Perabo

Just to name a few from my friends list.

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brownsfan2119
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Re: Post deleted......why? [Re: GMdawg]
      #716074 - Wed Aug 04 2010 11:55 AM

Quote:

Eli-Manning-Priv
Hila Duff-Privt
Payton Manning
Lacey Chabert
Piper Perabo

Just to name a few from my friends list.




I dont see any verification. Are you interpreting a private facebook account as verified? I could easily make a fake celebrity facebook account and make it private, not sure how that means Facebook verifies accounts?

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PrplPplEater
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Re: Post deleted......why? [Re: brownsfan2119]
      #716091 - Wed Aug 04 2010 01:33 PM

Quote:

Quote:

It will be, eventually, but not until I can automate the verification process as I am not going to expect or ask the Refs to check every single twitter link manually to ensure that it isn't from Joe Schmuckatelli.




Dont they have to check the links anyways? Its actually very easy as the twitter site is a very simplistic setup. There is no searching, scrolling, its right there when you click next to the users name.




No, there is no way anyone will ever verify every single link posted. For most, it is simply a matter of looking at where it is linking to. If the site is known, then the link is acceptable.

And I will not ask these volunteers to do what I wouldn't, which is to check every single Twitter link to check the validity of the account being linked to.

Furthermore, any links that are verified, will also be checked against the language filter as normal rules for linking will apply in that you may not post profanity, nor link to a page containing it.
If some random Joe on the page is dropping F-bombs, the link will be rejected.

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DCDAWGFAN
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Re: Post deleted......why? [Re: PrplPplEater]
      #716093 - Wed Aug 04 2010 01:36 PM

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If some random Joe on the page is dropping F-bombs, the link will be rejected.




Ok Prp, you don't like Joe Schmuckatelli.. we get it.. sheesh, give the guy a break.

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brownsfansince79
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Re: Post deleted......why? [Re: DCDAWGFAN]
      #716094 - Wed Aug 04 2010 01:37 PM

Unless Purp is actually Joe Schmuckatelli and is attempting to cover it up....

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Re: Post deleted......why? [Re: PrplPplEater]
      #716102 - Wed Aug 04 2010 02:09 PM

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Furthermore, any links that are verified, will also be checked against the language filter as normal rules for linking will apply in that you may not post profanity, nor link to a page containing it.
If some random Joe on the page is dropping F-bombs, the link will be rejected.




This is a non issue as you dont see other peoples tweets on the person page, only the person doing the tweeting.

Along with the fact that you can link directly to the tweet rather than the full page.

To be honest, I am not even sure you can swear on Twitter, i think it might be already filtered, Im not sure about that though as I dont "tweet", I only use it for the news.

I guess I dont see the big deal, it doesnt seem like it would create more work.

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No, there is no way anyone will ever verify every single link posted. For most, it is simply a matter of looking at where it is linking to. If the site is known, then the link is acceptable.




At some point those sites had to be checked though. Eventually the same would be done with the twitter links. A link to Adam Schefters twitter obviously would not have to be checked then.

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Re: Post deleted......why? [Re: brownsfansince79]
      #716119 - Wed Aug 04 2010 02:47 PM

Quote:

Unless Purp is actually Joe Schmuckatelli and is attempting to cover it up....



An interesting theory....

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TopDawg16
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I made an empty post by referencing a disallowed site. [Re: GMdawg]
      #716127 - Wed Aug 04 2010 03:18 PM



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Re: I made an empty post by referencing a disallowed site. [Re: TopDawg16]
      #716128 - Wed Aug 04 2010 03:20 PM

I didn't know Twitter had an automated thing. I was trying to show a point, by posting one.

Have the rule where when you paste the link, the clickable link, has to be the twitter URL. That way the ref could look at it, see who's Twitter it is, and not have to click on it to check.

I just don't understand why we can't use someone like Adam Schefter on Twitter...

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Re: Post deleted......why? [Re: brownsfan2119]
      #716141 - Wed Aug 04 2010 04:10 PM

That's because the verification is on their facebook page.

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Re: I made an empty post by referencing a disallowed site. [Re: TopDawg16]
      #716143 - Wed Aug 04 2010 04:16 PM

Give the twitter 2 min and a blurp is posted on Realgm or Espn anyways.

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Re: Post deleted......why? [Re: PrplPplEater]
      #716252 - Wed Aug 04 2010 09:45 PM

Quote:

Quote:

The rules have hardly changed here though the internet has evolved.




You say that as if it were a bad thing.




Yeah I do. There's been a shift in the content of this place over the past couple years. Good people have left and few good new people have come in their place.

Everything's a political debate or some kind of discussion of how this country's going down the tubes. It's miserable to read and a major reason why I've been posting less and less.

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