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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
Come on 40 ... based off his and his admin's history of beiing honest and telling us the truth ... I'm sure oBUMa or his admin had nothing to do with this .. NOTHING ..... NO WAY would he sick and agency after an individual or group ... NO WAY ... him and his admin definetly earned my respect with their truthfulness and straightforwardness when it comes to keeping us informed ...... rolleyes


At least one of you has it figured out... wink


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And then cover it up ... ABSOLUTELY NOT .... its not like there's MULTIPLE EXAMPLES of that from him and his admin .... rofl




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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
And then cover it up ... ABSOLUTELY NOT .... its not like there's MULTIPLE EXAMPLES of that from him and his admin .... rofl


Then you had to go and break out the tin foil.


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Another one for ya:

BREAKING NEWS: Republican intelligence committee chairman says Obama administration surveillance collected 'incidental' info on Trump's transition team – but isn't prepared to call it 'spying'

-Devin Nunes stunned Washington by suggesting that President Donald Trump was right – sort of – when he claimed he was 'wiretapped' by Obama

-Intelligence collected on his transition team was 'incidental,' meaning Trump's insiders weren't targeted

-But 'dozens of reports' from inside the U.S. Intelligence Community confirm that the Obama administration's surveillance swept up Trump's people in its net

-Nunes said there were names 'unmasked' by the intel reports, which are supposed to black out names of Americans who are not investigative targets

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...ition-team.html

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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
Come on 40 ... based off his and his admin's history of beiing honest and telling us the truth ... I'm sure oBUMa or his admin had nothing to do with this .. NOTHING ..... NO WAY would he sick and agency after an individual or group ... NO WAY ... him and his admin definetly earned my respect with their truthfulness and straightforwardness when it comes to keeping us informed ...... rolleyes


We are really quick to use someone else's past to cover up the present.

I am not defending Obama nor am I backing up your sarcasm, but this is a NEW administration with their OWN morales and are their OWN grown men running this country. If we allow this behavior to continue, we are going to be going down this road in 4 years, again (2 years for house) and then it will swing in the other direction.

Who suffers in all of this bickering and childish behavior? Our children, our mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, et al. I am for having multiple parties for Checks and Balances, but sheesh, people defend a political stance as if someone was testing their religious faith. It's petty and BS.

We have our views, now we just need to work towards having government work for the American People, with bipartisanship.

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More drama added to the fire. This Administration is burning itself down.


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We are really quick to use someone else's past to cover up the present.


Don't ASS-U-ME mag ... u oughta know better ... I'll be respectful as so far you've earned it ...

Before i start .. Thanks for your service ...

I didn't cover anything up ... i think Trump is DEAD NUTS WRONG on this one ... so u more than likely won't see me "covering" anything up on this one ... don't mistake my sarcasm and trashing of oBUMa as a defense for Donnie ... I know it doesn't work that way, that was solely to point out the hypocrisy of the libs on here ... when something goes wrong in my life .. first and only place i go to assign blame is the MIRROR ... then its all about problem resolution and moving forward ...

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I am not defending Obama nor am I backing up your sarcasm, but this is a NEW administration with their OWN morales and are their OWN grown men running this country. If we allow this behavior to continue, we are going to be going down this road in 4 years, again (2 years for house) and then it will swing in the other direction.


I'm all for stopping the BS ... its been going for the last 30 years ... and were the ones that suffer .... look at how our politicians on both sides talk to us ... its ridiculous ... listening to Shurmer, Pelosi or Ryan is a JOKE ... its emberassing how they talk to us .... if it were up to me .. we'd vote every incumbent out in the next election ... EVERY ONE .. just to send a message ...

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Who suffers in all of this bickering and childish behavior? Our children, our mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, et al. I am for having multiple parties for Checks and Balances, but sheesh, people defend a political stance as if someone was testing their religious faith. It's petty and BS.


I agree .. i was a republican until 25 years or so ago ... left the party then ... since then ... I voted for the rapist twice and the rest repubs up top ... sat out oBUMa/McCain .. i tried to pull the lever for McCain .. but it was just to heavy ... *L* ... down ballot I been slightly leaning repub but have voted for many more dems than i ever thought i would ...




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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
Come on 40 ... based off his and his admin's history of beiing honest and telling us the truth ... I'm sure oBUMa or his admin had nothing to do with this .. NOTHING ..... NO WAY would he sick and agency after an individual or group ... NO WAY ... him and his admin definetly earned my respect with their truthfulness and straightforwardness when it comes to keeping us informed ...... rolleyes


We are really quick to use someone else's past to cover up the present..


Don't let it get to ya. Diam is the kind of person that probably would have spit on U.S. servicemen returning home after the Vietnam War.


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Apologies accepted from all of you.

Trump!

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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
Come on 40 ... based off his and his admin's history of beiing honest and telling us the truth ... I'm sure oBUMa or his admin had nothing to do with this .. NOTHING ..... NO WAY would he sick and agency after an individual or group ... NO WAY ... him and his admin definetly earned my respect with their truthfulness and straightforwardness when it comes to keeping us informed ...... rolleyes


We are really quick to use someone else's past to cover up the present..


Don't let it get to ya. Diam is the kind of person that probably would have spit on U.S. servicemen returning home after the Vietnam War.


Hard to have a discussion with someone like that mag ... real real hard ...




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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Apologies accepted from all of you.

Trump!


*LOL* ...

Hey ... I DIDN'T APOLOGIZE PAL!!!!!




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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Apologies accepted from all of you.

Trump!


*LOL* ...

Hey ... I DIDN'T APOLOGIZE PAL!!!!!


I was referring to the Peanut Gallery, not you.

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We are really quick to use someone else's past to cover up the present.


Don't ASS-U-ME mag ... u oughta know better ... I'll be respectful as so far you've earned it ...

Before i start .. Thanks for your service ...

I didn't cover anything up ... i think Trump is DEAD NUTS WRONG on this one ... so u more than likely won't see me "covering" anything up on this one ... don't mistake my sarcasm and trashing of oBUMa as a defense for Donnie ... I know it doesn't work that way, that was solely to point out the hypocrisy of the libs on here ... when something goes wrong in my life .. first and only place i go to assign blame is the MIRROR ... then its all about problem resolution and moving forward ...

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I am not defending Obama nor am I backing up your sarcasm, but this is a NEW administration with their OWN morales and are their OWN grown men running this country. If we allow this behavior to continue, we are going to be going down this road in 4 years, again (2 years for house) and then it will swing in the other direction.


I'm all for stopping the BS ... its been going for the last 30 years ... and were the ones that suffer .... look at how our politicians on both sides talk to us ... its ridiculous ... listening to Shurmer, Pelosi or Ryan is a JOKE ... its emberassing how they talk to us .... if it were up to me .. we'd vote every incumbent out in the next election ... EVERY ONE .. just to send a message ...

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Who suffers in all of this bickering and childish behavior? Our children, our mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, et al. I am for having multiple parties for Checks and Balances, but sheesh, people defend a political stance as if someone was testing their religious faith. It's petty and BS.


I agree .. i was a republican until 25 years or so ago ... left the party then ... since then ... I voted for the rapist twice and the rest repubs up top ... sat out oBUMa/McCain .. i tried to pull the lever for McCain .. but it was just to heavy ... *L* ... down ballot I been slightly leaning repub but have voted for many more dems than i ever thought i would ...





Likewise, never mistake me for worshipping at the alter of the Democrats... I used to be a Republican. But the older I've got the more they have swung to the right and lost their basic human decency.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised to find out Trump is right about Obama, no more surprised than to find out Trump conspired with the Russians. I don't really trust those in power anywhere in the world to do what is right for anyone but themselves.

With that said though, my politics are progressive liberal these days due to the caring about people in general. I vote as an independent and have a pretty strong dislike of both parties in general.

40 and I go at each other on here as do a few others, but that is as much about the sport as beliefs for me. I'm pretty passionate about being decent to people and looking out for the common man before the Donor Class, but until Trump took the white house I always tried to support whoever was POTUS. Trump has not earned that from me, probably never will.


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Is anybody surprised 40 is still posting from Fox News, even after they had to kick one of their guys off the show for making up fake sources?

Trump lied. Own it.


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As for the story itself.......????????

May have? The Feds, the DOJ and other republicans have already said it isn't true.

Trump and his supporters would be better off letting this story go.


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As for the story itself.......????????

May have? The Feds, the DOJ and other republicans have already said it isn't true.

Trump and his supporters would be better off letting this story go.


lol, Trump will never let it go man. It's an embarrassment to him.


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In the surveillance state we live in created under GWB, and greatly expanded under Obama, there is a fair chance we are all incidentally collected every few months...

Just going for accuracy and all...


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I almost (90%) agree with EVERYTHING you have stated, minus:

I never assumed you said anything. I used your post as it was clearly the best example at the time. Please forgive me for generalizing and including your post into a broad observation.

I, as well as you, have seen, whether it be Dem or GOP, how the present administration blames or takes credit where it has no business belonging. This is where I used your post to illustrate this.

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OH! I am sorry! Thank you for your kind words, as I am pretty sure Swish and other service men and women would agree, we didn't do it to make money, so it was/is our pleasure!

Thank YOU for YOUR support!!

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