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Originally Posted By: GratefulDawg


I think that's a conversation that 100% needs to take place. I hope Mason gets fined and suspended.

It doesn't change what MG did - doesn't make it right or justify it. . . . Or I should say it justifies him wanting to get into it with Mason and any other nearby Steeler. It does not excuse trying to hit him with a helmet.


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Look at Garrett's legs...a man's legs will curl in like that when hit in the testicles.

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Looks like Rudolph punched and kicked Garrett in the nads while Pittsburgh OLinemen held Garrett.




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I think Rudolph playing will get the D more fired up than if he was suspended. I am fine with him playing and I hope we hit him (legally) a TON and intercept him another 3+ times. I hope we embarrass him and goad him into doing something emotional and stupid ..... On O - Baker and the guys need to keep it tight disciplined and just find a way to win.


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While what Myles did was totally wrong it’s also totally bogus that Rudolph didn’t get suspended. Just another example of the NFL and the media showing favoritism to their darling Steelers. At the very least Rudolph should be made to publicly apologize for trying to pull Garrett’s helmet off and kicking him in the groin. Rudolph is being treated like a choir boy. You can just tell by his arrogant smirks that he is a jerk.
That said, Myles still deserves to be suspended.

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people justifying what Garrett did is absurd...oh... he called me a name..let me try to kill him with a weapon.. gmab. Nothing anyone did justifies what garrett did..i would be very suprised if he doesn't get atleast a year suspension.. I don't think people realize how egregious this was and NFL has to make a statement..this isn't a kick or a punch, this is weaponizing a piece of equipment and attacking a player without equipment. Garrett deserves everything he's going to get..lets not forget this isn't the first time he's done something punishable. (Titans game)


Dude, general rule of society is that if someone starts something with you, then you get to use whatever means at your disposal to fight them.

Heck, its even encoded in the laws of our country. If you have a weapon and someone attacks you, then you get to use that weapon or any other you can find on them!

Again, NFL rules prevail and they get to punish the players as they see fit, but all of this noise about Myles using the helmet as a weapon and potentially getting prosecuted/sued is nonsense.

From an NFL rules standpoint, Garrett is in the wrong, from a societal standpoint, Garrett is justified in hitting Rudolph with the helmet and Rudolph is 100% in the wrong.


If you watch the tape, Garrett was kicked in the groin by Rudolph. Watch close as the steeler is pulling Myless offf.

None the less, you ca hit people with a helmet. Myles will probably get suspended a dew games next season as well. I am thinking 10 games in total.


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people justifying what Garrett did is absurd...oh... he called me a name..let me try to kill him with a weapon.. gmab. Nothing anyone did justifies what garrett did..i would be very suprised if he doesn't get atleast a year suspension.. I don't think people realize how egregious this was and NFL has to make a statement..this isn't a kick or a punch, this is weaponizing a piece of equipment and attacking a player without equipment. Garrett deserves everything he's going to get..lets not forget this isn't the first time he's done something punishable. (Titans game)


Dude, general rule of society is that if someone starts something with you, then you get to use whatever means at your disposal to fight them.

Heck, its even encoded in the laws of our country. If you have a weapon and someone attacks you, then you get to use that weapon or any other you can find on them!

Again, NFL rules prevail and they get to punish the players as they see fit, but all of this noise about Myles using the helmet as a weapon and potentially getting prosecuted/sued is nonsense.

From an NFL rules standpoint, Garrett is in the wrong, from a societal standpoint, Garrett is justified in hitting Rudolph with the helmet and Rudolph is 100% in the wrong.


This is the most absurd thing I’ve ever read. Don’t talk to me about any means necessary because it’s simply not true. I’ve witnessed first hand that circumstances require measured and controlled response. Someone picks a fight with me on the street 9/10 i could kill them easily and quickly with my barehands. So because they attacked me first I should kill them because I’m just defending myself? Sorry but given my training and ability, it would def be deemed excessive and would almost certainly be punished accordingly. Nothing that Rudolph did justified him using helmet as a weapon. If he’s truly scared for his life against a preppy qb then he’s in the wrong sport. Hell who’s to say Rudolph wasn’t just trying to get his helmet back.


Yes, If someone crazy attacked you out of the blue and they happen to end up dead afterwords (taking things to the most extreme scenario), then I really got no problem if that person is eliminated from society.

Garrett should be punished because he broke the rules. But I have no sympathy for Rudolph and characterizing a helmet as a deadly weapon is a bit of a stretch.

I put 90% of the blame for the fight at the feet of the clear aggressor. More often than not, the aggressor in a fight comes out on top, so seeing the aggressor get beat down in embarrassing fashion is always great.

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Myles just needs to keep taking as high a road as possible. This stuff WILL weigh in
and in his ultimate favor. One would think the league couldn't possibly ignore it. As it stands the rest of the season is too much when you review it all. 4 games...

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Still worth it IMO. We got the win and dominated them. Garrett rode Rudolf like Santa Claus.


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Lol!


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Still worth it IMO. We got the win and dominated them. Garrett rode Rudolf like Santa Claus.


Sorry ... but let me be clear I understand you.

It was worth losing our best player indefinitely in order to make the Browns look like idiots and thugs to the rest of the Nation ... and it's worth it because? Why ??

Sorry - I don't get that. Not one iota.

If we want the Browns to be tough with an opponent that has dominated us physically in forever ... Garrett didn't add anything to the whopping we put on the steelers for 59 minutes and 52 seconds. In fact what MG did was undo most of that. I'm really shocked people don't understand that.


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Somehow, I didn't see the game,

Hear all this stuff after the game, all over, all the news,

Somehow, it's all different when you see the video for the first time,


Man Myles Garrett was the victim in all this, where was the team, where were the refs, how do you get Myles Garrett being chased down by 3 steeler players, backing him in to the end zone.

I knew since it was the steelers, there had to be some bad fault coming from their end,
yep, pretty clear,

I think we'd all be better off if they just kicked the steeler organization out of the league, " indefinitely "

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All people aren't going to see the same action from the same point of view.

How the heck, (I didn't see the game), do you get a bench clearing brawl with like 20 whatever seconds to go in a 14 point game.

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