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Found this today. Thought it was great. The film is bad but the sound good.

But I never heard of these two playing together.
And on this song it so good.


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Everybody has favorites. One of mine is Steely Dan. Been a fan since 'Can't Buy a Thrill.'

Beyond their catchy tunes, sophisticated charts and top-shelf players, they also specialize in sardonic, world-weary lyrics that artfully paint gritty real-life vignettes.

Haitian Divorce
Don't Take Me Alive
Glamour Profession

...and then, some are just fun, clever, cynical romps through relationship hell. Bonus: this one bumps an infectious groove that has your head bobbing from start to finish.

Lunch With Gina

That must be her again
She's leaning on my bell
That cold psychotic brain
The one I know so well
So I'm nailed to the floor in the no-option zone
There's about zero chance she'll give up and go home

This endless afternoon
It started on the day I met her
Lunch with Gina is forever

She's coming round the corner
Her body's just a blur
I peel out like The Flash
It don't mean boo to her
So I duck into Nino's—she's barred from the place
The minute I walk out she's right in my face

She's got nothing but time
No use in trying to be clever
Lunch with Gina is forever

Now I'm in my apartment
The blinds down the lights out
The phone rings God help me
There's nobody home

I crouch on the carpet
Not breathing just being
Like meat on the bone

(...adn don't this synth solo sound just like your crazy ex-girlfriend? rofl )

I'm in a cozy booth
Maybe my watch is fast
Another Tanqueray
I'll wait till twenty past
I'm about to go postal when she waltzes in
I guess she's a knockout—hey where have I been?

The waiter never comes
God knows the service could be better
Lunch with Gina is forever

Coffee and a kiss
Maybe later maybe never
Lunch with Gina…



"too many notes, not enough music-"
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"Everything Must Go" is an album I still put on from time to time (but not as much as "2 Against Nature").

Walter Becker's passing was a big loss when you think of the body of their lyrics over the years.

I guess Donald Fagen is trying to make an attempt (through litigation) to continue the music through something called, "Donald Fagen and the Steely Dan Band." I hope he is able to do so, as long as it holds that moniker.

"Haitian Divorce", "Babylon Sisters" and so many others: masterful lyrics and songs with reggae, jazz and funk.

Another that comes to mind: "Third World Man." Really beautiful song with brief, profound lyrics. I'm too lazy to post them, but Steely Dan fans will know what I'm talking about.

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Another that comes to mind: "Third World Man." Really beautiful song with brief, profound lyrics. I'm too lazy to post them, but Steely Dan fans will know what I'm talking about.


I'll do it for you. Folks need to know this stuff. I got you, Dawg.

Third World Man

Johnny's playroom
Is a bunker filled with sand
He's become a third world man

Smoky Sunday
He's been mobilized since dawn
Now he's crouching on the lawn
He's a third world man

Soon you'll throw down your disguise
We'll see behind those bright eyes
By and by
When the sidewalks are safe
For the little guy

I saw the fireworks
I believed that I was dreaming
Till the neighbors came out screaming
He's a third world man

Soon you'll throw down your disguise
We'll see behind those bright eyes
By and by
When the sidewalks are safe
For the little guy

When he's crying out
I just sing that Ghana rondo
E l'era del terzo mondo
He's a third world man
He's a third world man
He's a third world man




Oh, dude. Choking up a little bit tonight because Walt is gone.
Brothers always brought it Real.
So glad I saw them a few years years back.


"too many notes, not enough music-"
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I saw them in '94 at the Hollywood Bowl for their "Alive in America" reunion tour.

"Third World Man" was played right before the encore break.

re: Becker - looking strictly at their solo works (Fagen's 4 and Becker's 2), Fagen's are richer musically (IMO), but Becker's are more "Steely Dan-ish" and poignant lyrically. "Circus Money" is a great record.

Keeping on topic with lyrics - Can't go too far wrong with "Any Major Dude......" or "Pearl of the Quarter".

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Love this talk.

It's reminding me just how deep and rich the Steely Dan vein is.

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"Circus Money" is a great record.


Somehow, this joint has totally escaped my notice [makes mental note: 'Circus Money']

THANK YOU.
DEEP THANKS.

I now have a new mini-project to jump-start my Summer session.


"too many notes, not enough music-"
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When you get into a Steely Dan mood it is all groove.

Great band musically and lyrically.

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[Verse 1]
Through the fish-eyed lens of tear stained eyes
I can barely define the shape of this moment in time
And far from flying high in clear blue skies
I'm spiraling down to the hole in the ground where I hide
If you negotiate the minefield in the drive
And beat the dogs and cheat the cold electronic eyes
And if you make it past the shotguns in the hall
Dial the combination, open the priesthole
And if I'm in I'll tell you (What's behind the wall)

(Yahoo!)

[Verse 2]
There's a kid who had a big hallucination
Making love to girls in magazines
He wonders if you're sleeping with your new found faith
Could anybody love him
Or is it just a crazy dream?

[Verse 3]
And if I show you my dark side
Will you still hold me tonight?
And if I open my heart to you
And show you my weak side
What would you do?
Would you sell your story to Rolling Stone?
Would you take the children away
And leave me alone?
And smile in reassurance
As you whisper down the phone?
Would you send me packing?
Or would you take me home?

[Verse 4]
Thought I oughta bare my naked feelings
Thought I oughta tear the curtain down
I held the blade in trembling hands
Prepared to make it but just then the phone rang
I never had the nerve to make the final cut

[Outro]
“Hello? Listen, I think I've got it."
"Okay, listen, it's a- Hahahaha!”



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One of my favorite albums.


HERE WE GO BROWNIES! HERE WE GO!!
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There's some stuff I like to listen to on Final Cut. Good lyrics (as always ), a few great guitar solos and the theme.

In my mind , I sort of considered it Waters' first solo album. Not really Pink Floyd. At least "Animals", by most accounts , was a bit more collaborative.

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Claire de lune(English translation from French):
Moonlight:

Your soul is a select landscape
Where charming masqueraders and bergamaskers go
Playing the lute and dancing and almost
Sad beneath their fantastic disguises

All sing in a minor key
Of victorious love and the opportune life
They do not seem to believe in their happiness
And their song mingles with the moonlight

With the still moonlight
sad and beautiful
That sets the birds dreaming in the trees
and the fountains among marble statues



Patience... never rushed, flowing.





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What forms our lasting memories of the people we love?

I remember Grandma Joan's horrified expression as I licked the bottom of a bowl of mint-chocolate chip ice cream; such manners. I remember her giving me my first hard bound book; Swiss Family Robinson. We'd walk around the block to go "puddle jumping" when a rainbow appeared after a hard rain, wade the creek to cool off on a hot summer day. You could tell how bad her heartburn was by how much baking soda she put in her soda bread; sometimes it was inedible. She used to tape quotes on her bedroom mirror. My signature came from there, "We are not called on to be successful, we are called on to be faithful."

At their 65th anniversary party, she didn't know who any of us were. She just smiled. There was a big picture of the best man and maid of honor holding umbrellas for them as they walked out into the rain on their wedding day, so many years ago. Grandpa gave a speech and started to sing:

Moon River
wider than a mile
I'm crossing you in style
Someday

Oh dream maker
You heart breaker
Wherever you're going
I'm going your way

Two Drifters
off to see the world
There's such a lot of world to see
We're after the same rainbows end
Waitin round the bend
My huckleberry friend
Moon River and me

I see those two drifters setting out on their wedding day and look at the legacy they left behind. It seems cruel that at the rainbows end the most fantastic parts of the journey were forgotten. It makes me think about the parts of my life that I never want to let go, and realize, there is no guarantee; no matter how fulfilling. Guess I'll just try to love harder and hold on tighter.



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How on God's green earth did I forget this?



I'm countin' on you
to carry me through

GIVE ME THE BEAT BOYS AND FREE MY SOUL
I wanna get lost in your Rock and Roll
and drift away

When my mind is free
you know a melody can move me
When I'm feelin blue
That GUITAR'S COMIN' THROUGH to soothe me

Thanks for the joy that you've given me
I want you to know I BELIEVE IN YOUR SONG
Rhythm and rhyme a harmony
You've helped me along
Making me strong

OH GIVE ME THE BEAT BOYS AND FREE MY SOUL
I wanna get lost in your rock and roll
and drift away


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I refuse to let this thread die.

I don't hate country music. I like Johnny Cash kind of country music. What I do hate is country music that is nothing more than background noise. It seems that every rocker I know that turned 30 decided to play country in the background of their backyard bar-b-Q because, I don't know, it's the most unobtrusive forgettable thing that they could play. So vanilla, so lame, so disappointing.



Straight out of Nashville, here's your next big star
He don't write the songs he sings, but he knows the words by heart.
Wears a cowboy hat, and some tight blue jeans,
And he struts around the stage like he's the coolest thing you've ever seen.

Oh you gotta love him!

He looks like a super model, knows how to strike a pose
And he don't mind the makeup, as long as no one knows.
And he's got that crooked grin, and talks with a southern drawl,
Acts like Toby Keith, but sounds a lot like Tim McGraw

But if he's country I'll kiss your ass,
And throw all my Willie Nelson records in the trash.
He's the same old junk in a slightly different bag,
But if he's country, well then country's pretty bad.

I don't watch CMT
Naw that junk makes me sick.
And that ole Kenny Chesney,
What a hypocrite.

He'll swear he's country,
But he lives in the Caribbean.
Sings all about the islands now,
What happened to the Tennessean

Aw if he's country ill kiss your ass
Throw all my Johnny Cash records in the trash
He's all about image cuz image pays the bucks,
Aw but if he's country, well then country really sucks.

What happened to the outlaws,
Who weren't afraid to cross the line.
What happened to the workin' man,
Who sang the truth about their troubled lives.

I was raised in Georgia, in a one red light town.
And my daddy picked guitar in every honky tonk around.
And he taught me all the good stuff,
That solid country gold, but now I love it all from hip-hop to rock and roll

And if I ain't country, well I don't give a damn
My daddy taught me to be own kinda man
He said "Son you don't have to go along with the crowd"
So if I ain't country then I'm pretty frickin proud
Oh Well I don't need their labels anyhow


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Not a really well known song of Dylan's but a song I have always loved.
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I hate myself for lovin' you and the weakness that it showed.
You were just a painted face on a trip down Suicide Road.
The stage was set, the lights went out all around the old hotel.
I hate myself for lovin' you and I'm glad the curtain fell.


I hate that foolish game we played and the need that was expressed.
And the mercy that you showed to me, who ever would have guessed?
I went out on Lower Broadway and I felt that place within,
That hollow place where martyrs weep and angels play with sin.


Heard your songs of freedom and man forever stripped,
Acting out his folly while his back is being whipped.
Like a slave in orbit, he's beaten 'til he's tame,
All for a moment's glory and it's a dirty, rotten shame.


There are those who worship loneliness, I'm not one of them.
In this age of fiberglass I'm searching for a gem.
The crystal ball up on the wall hasn't shown me nothing yet,
I've paid the price of solitude, but at last I'm out of debt.


Can't recall a useful thing you ever did for me
'Cept pat me on the back one time when I was on my knees.
We stared into each other's eyes 'til one of us would break,
No use to apologize, what diff'rence would it make?


So sing your praise of progress and of the Doom Machine,
The naked truth is still taboo whenever it can be seen.
Lady Luck, who shines on me, will tell you where I'm at,
I hate myself for lovin' you, but I should get over that.

Songwriter: Bob Dylan

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Screw Bob;

I hate myself for loving you: Joan Jett


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j/c

Joni Mitchell knows how to tell a story.
This one is an up-tempo 12-bar blues. The band cooks this jam like it's a guest on Food Network.

The Dry Cleaner From Des Moines

I'm down to a roll of dimes
I'm stalking the slot that's hot
I keep hearing bells all around me
Jingling in the lucky jackpots
They keep you tantalized
They keep you reaching for your wallet
Here in fools' paradise!

I talked to a cat from Des Moines
He said he ran a cleaning plant
That cat was clanking with coin
Well, he must have had a genie in a lamp
'Cause every time, I dropped a dime, I blew it
He kept ringing bells
Nothing to it!

Well, he got three oranges
Three lemons
Three cherries
Three plums
I'm losing my taste for fruit
Watching the dry cleaner do it
Like Midas in a polyester suit
It's all luck!
It's just luck!
You get a little lucky and you make a little money!

[instrumental solos happen here]

I followed him down the strip
He picked out a booth at Circus Circus
Where the cowgirls fill the room
With their big balloons
The Cleaner was pitching with purpose!
He had Dinos and Pooh Bears
And lions, pink and blue there
He couldn't lose there!

[more solos happen here]

Des Moines was stacking the chips
Raking off the tables
Ringing the bandit's bells
This is a story that's a drag to tell
(In some ways)
Since I lost every dime
I laid on the line
But the cleaner from Des Moines
Could put a coin
In the door of a John
And get twenty for one
It's just luck!


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"Revelation (Mother Earth)"

[Daisley - Osbourne - Rhoads]

Mother please forgive them
For they know not what they do
Looking back in history's books
It seems it's nothing new
Oh, let my mother live

Heaven is for heroes
And hell is full of fools
Stupidity, no will to live
They're breaking God's own rules
Please let my mother live

Father of all creation
I think we're all going wrong
The path they're taking
Seems to be breaking
And it won't take too long
Children of the future
Watching empires fall
Madness, the cup they drink from
Self destruction, the toll

I had a vision, l saw the world burn
And the seas had turned red
The sun had fallen, the final curtain
In the land of the dead
Mother, please show the children
Before it's too late
To fight each other, there's no one winning
We must fight all the hate


Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.

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Have always thought that this was brilliant.


My friend assures me, "It's all or nothing."
I am not worried
I am not overly concerned
My friend implores me, "For one time only,
Make an exception."
I am not worried
Wrap her up in a package of lies
Send her off to a coconut island
I am not worried
I am not overly concerned with the status of my emotions
"Oh, " she says, "you're changing."
But we're always changing
It does not bother me to say this isn't love
Because if you don't want to talk about it then it isn't love
And I guess I'm going to have to live with that
But I'm sure there's something in a shade of gray
Or something in between
And I can always change my name
If that's what you mean
My friend assures me, "It's all or nothing."
But I am not really worried
I am not overly concerned
You try to tell yourself the things you try to tell yourself
To make yourself forget
I am not worried
"If it's love, " she said, "then we're going to have to
think about the consequences."
She can't stop shaking
I can't stop touching her and
This time when kindness falls like rain
It washes her away and Anna begins to change her mind
"These seconds when I'm shaking leave me shuddering
for days, " she says
And I'm not ready for this sort of thing
But I'm not going to break
And I'm not going to worry about it anymore
I'm not going to bend and I'm not going to break
And I'm not going to worry about it anymore
No no no no no,
It seems like I should say, "As long as this is love"
But it's not all that easy so maybe I should
Snap her up in a butterfly net
Pin her down on a photograph album
I am not worried
I've done this sort of thing before
But then I start to think about the consequences
Because I don't get no sleep in a quiet room and
The time when kindness falls like rain
It washes me away and Anna begins to change my mind
And every time she sneezes I believe it's love and
Oh Lord, I'm not ready for this sort of thing
She's talking in her sleep
It's keeping me awake and Anna begins to toss and turn
And every word is nonsense but I understand and
Oh Lord, I'm not ready for this sort of thing
Her kindness bangs a gong
It's moving me along and Anna begins to fade away
It's chasing me away
She disappears and
Oh Lord, I'm not ready for this sort of thing

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Clem, in different threads you've introduced me to Shadows and Light, highlighted the Mingus album, and now you've focused in even further. Thankyou. I have a soft spot for Joni Mitchell, but grew up with her more strummy stuff. I've been listening. I guess sometimes it goes over my head, but that Mingus album is pretty darn good. I really like Goodbye Pork Pie Hat. I like the line, "Love is never easy, it's short of the hope we have for happiness."

One thing I'm confused on. Mingus was a bass player right? Did he play on the album and Pastorius played the tour, or did Pastorius also appear on the album?

Finding old articles. You might have read it back in the day, but thought you might enjoy it. Here's the intro; the body is linked.

https://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=95
Joni Mitchell Makes Mingus Sing
by Leonard Feather
Down Beat
September 6, 1979

The career of vocalist and songwriter Joni Mitchell has, within the last year, developed to emphasize her associations with jazz music which have been evident at least since Tom Scott's L.A.Express joined her on on Court and Spark. Mingus, her acclaimed collaboration with the late bassist/composer, and her Playboy Jazz Festival performance with Herbie Hancock, Don Alias, Gene Perla, and Randy Brecker are indicative of her latest direction.

In conversation, Joni states her longtime involvement with jazz - the sound of Annie Ross is clearly discernible in some of Joni's phrasing, and sure enough—Lambert, Hendricks & Ross was an early favorite.

Born in McLeod, Alberta, Canada, Joni Mitchell enrolled at an art school in Alberta but soon drifted into folk singing. She took an increasing interest in songwriting, graduated from ukelele to acoustic guitar, and after working at coffee houses in Toronto, moved to Detroit in 1966.

Her career moved into top gear after she signed with Reprise Records in 1967. During the years that followed, her own personal success as a singer was at times partially subjugated to the impact of others' versions of her songs (Both Sides Now provided a hit for Joni and a gold record for Judy Collins). Since 1972 Mitchell has been with Asylum Records.

A natural musician rather than a schooled one, over the years her close association with sophisticated musicians has led to an ever more sensitive awareness of the fundamentals of jazz.

Last year, it became known that she was embarking on an album in collaboration with the ailing Mingus, the sidemen including Wayne Shorter, Jaco Pastorius, Peter Erskine and Herbie Hancock.

By late April, the project had been finally mixed and the album was previewed at a private party. The interview below took place a few days later, when Mitchell still had not decided on a final title, which she discusses here.
https://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=95


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Dang Bone, Dirge was a hard song to find. I tried on youtube, but only found covers and a robot voice that recited the lyrics. Finally found it on something called Vimeo. I like it, thanks for sharing.

As far as lyrics go, I've always loved Last Thoughts on Woodie Guthrie. I won't post all the lyrics 'cuz they'd take a while. At the beginning of the song Dylan says he was asked to summarize his thoughts in 25 words or less. He said he couldn't do it, so "I wrote 5 pages." There are so many lines that cut to the bone, but what always stands out to me are the lines, and I'm remembering the best I can, "Look at my skin glow, look at my skin shine. When you can't even sense that they got any insides. These people all pretty with there ribbons and bows."



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Dirge was on the album "Planet Waves."

Of course "Forever Young" was also.

Anyone who loves song lyrics should at least one time get a copy of all the lyrics of Dylan's songs.

A true poet. They are great to read.

Lyrically he has influenced so many people. Understandable.

The dude can turn a phrase.

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"Buckets of Rain" was always my favorite lyrically and melodically.

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Well, there's certainly some straight up no nonsense lyrics in this Bob Seger classic. rofl

"Sunspot Baby"

She packed up her bags and she took off down the road
Left me here stranded with the bills she owed
She gave me a false address
Took off with my American Express
Sunspot Baby
She sure had me way outguessed

She left me here stranded like a dog out in the yard
Charged up a fortune on my credit card
She used my address and my name
Man that was sure unkind
Sunspot Baby
She sure has a real good time

I looked in Miami
I looked in Negril
The closest I came was a month old bill
I checked the Bahamas and they said she was gone
I can't understand why she did me so wrong

But she packed up her bags
And she took off down the road
Said she was going to visit sister Flo
She used my address and my name
And man that was sure unkind
Sunspot Baby
I'm gonna catch up sometime
Sure had a real good time



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Right from the start when he first came out you could tell this guy was different.

Woody was a major influence on Bob. But he took things to another gear.

I remember walking around Kent and hearing Dylan coming from rooms out to the street. At a time when you are young and awaking to the world. Dylan was like a light bulb.

Now all these years later he is a beacon to all in music.

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Probly Knot

I went to college at age eighteen.

Then I earned my degree.

It seems that guaranteed success,

Surely would come to me.

Could wealth untold be mine?

No blue collar overtime.

Could life really be this fine?

Probly Knot!


Politicians say they'll save the world.

I'm confused can't you see.

They just need to look on our own city streets.

There's hungry, homeless and diseased.

Ain't this the promised land?

I've seen all I can stand.

Uncle Same won't you lend them a hand?

Probly Knot!

Probly Knot!


Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.

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