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Is everyone missing the use of the modifier word "below"?

And it was a measure of collective performance, not individual talent.

I think we are in agreement, in my post I said the biggest issue last season was the offensive scheme. Almost an entire year and it looked like VETERANS, ALL PRO players didn't know what they were supposed to be doing. That led to a lot of confusion and confusion at QB means holding the ball.

I think up the middle, it was solid....on the edges at tackle, it was no ok, it was a nightmare for most of the season. Only teams with bad edge rushers did it look alright.

I think focusing any discussion on only one aspect of the offense at any time is the problem. I think it's why there are so many threads that get bogged down fixating on one issue, when in reality there were multiple issues all influencing the offense and each having it's own negative knock on affect to the next item on the list. They all worked together to make each one aspect worse than it might have been by itself. Just off the top of my head and in no order of priority:

-There was a new offensive scheme
-The offensive scheme sucked.
-They apparently (often) called plays they did not practice.
-My memory says that early in the season we called a lot of pass plays that took a long time to develop.
-Freddie was trying to coach like we were the greatest show on turf (think of the Seattle game).
-Freddie was a horrible game manager.
-Baker was inaccurate compared to his rookie and college years.
-Baker started lost his pocket awareness and took off scrambling too often.
-The O Line was inconsistent at best
-The O Line had multiple new players and I doubt the same 5 started more than a 5 or 6 games together as the same group
-More than one team mentioned knowing what play was coming
-Our 'star' WR wasn't lining up where he was supposed to be
-Our star WR was injured
-Our star WR and other receivers (with the exception of JL) dropped catchable balls
-Our man-child athletic freak of a TE broke his wrist (game 2? Game 3?)

Put that all together and it's a crap fest.... and that's what we saw. Each unit & issue negatively impacted the play of the other units/issues. A perfect storm.

The awesome part of all that is we still had two 1000 yard receivers, we had a RB that should have won the rushing title, we have a QB going into his 3rd year who has traditionally played his best when the underdog.

Official nomination for understatement of the year award.

I'm not sure how trying to explain away that the run blocking was far worse than the pass blocking changes anything. There's a big difference between 17th and 31st no matter how much one rants about it.

It doesn't change anything... they still sucked.

It's the magnitude of the sucktitude.

TWSS

Top NFL talent under 25 ?

Figured this was as good a place to put this:

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-rankings-the-top-25-players-under-the-age-of-25

4 Baltimore Ravens on the list.
2 Browns
2 Stelers
0 Bengals

On Chubb who I rate as highly as nearly any RB in the NFL other than maybe McCafrey:

14. RB NICK CHUBB, CLEVELAND BROWNS
Age at kickoff: 24 years, 8 months, 14 days
Since he was drafted in the second round of the 2018 NFL Draft, no running back has graded out higher than Chubb as a rusher. In fact, his 92.1 rushing grade over the last two years is the only mark above 90.0. That mainly comes down to the fact that getting Chubb to the ground has been much easier said than done. His 110 missed tackles forced are more than any other player, and his 1,980 rushing yards after contact are fewer than only Derrick Henry. If you’re looking for a pure runner, there are few players in the league right now that I would take over Chubb.

I always scoff at the "Talent under 25" list. Young and talented really just means talented and inexperienced. The best teams are always chalk full of veterans.

I disagree. Looking at that list - you can virtually build one side of the team (O or D) around any one of them. Did you look at the list? It is not a list of talent that hasn't done anything - quite the contrary.

I never took it as a insult.


Just guys at the bar chewing fat.


I took a few comments as insults, but not yours.