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Originally Posted By: mgh888
You are very good at gaslighting and strawman arguments ... you'll be right at home here.


Can you give me one example of gaslighting or a straw man arguments?

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Give one example of how Trump works to divide the nation. I bet you can't. Not a valid one, anyways. The nation is divided because of a cultural conflict that is decades old. The Democrats just decided to get violent about it the last four years. America has been deeply divided for decades.

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What does that have to do with Russia?

Buddy, if you've been deaf since he started running for president in 2016 until today, that's not my problem. He does it at every rally he holds.

If you need someone to show you examples, you obviously haven't been listening.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
What does that have to do with Russia?

Buddy, if you've been deaf since he started running for president in 2016 until today, that's not my problem. He does it at every rally he holds.

If you need someone to show you examples, you obviously haven't been listening.


One example. Should be easy.

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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
What does that have to do with Russia?

Buddy, if you've been deaf since he started running for president in 2016 until today, that's not my problem. He does it at every rally he holds.

If you need someone to show you examples, you obviously haven't been listening.


I hate to do this, but I have to pull the Gramsci card. The Left runs in part on a form of Gramscian Marxism, which is highly divisive by it's very nature.

Or did you not know that Marxism is DIVISIVE by it's very nature?


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BTW, when it comes to politics, I haven't had a dog in the race for years. But I sure ain't going to vote for the Gramscicratic party. PS don't blame me, fellas. I'm not the one that brought this subject (of division) up.

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Ah, so now you twist and turn again into a different discussion?


yes he does.

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Well, since when is it a big deal for a foreign nation to put a bounty on the heads of our soldiers? Oh that's right, Trump has ignored the intelligence about that too.


He didn't ignore it. He evaluated it, and it was found by himself and others to be UNVERIFIED. SO what you do in that situation, is you investigate further and seek more details.

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"You see a lot of indicators. Many of them are troubling; many of them you act on. But in this case, there just wasn't enough there. I sent the intelligence guys back to continue to dig on it. And I believe they're continuing to dig right now," he added.

General Frank Mckenzie on whether the report of bounties on US soldiers was verified. Wednesday, July 8, 2020

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Well, since when is it a big deal for a foreign nation to put a bounty on the heads of our soldiers? Oh that's right, Trump has ignored the intelligence about that too.


He didn't ignore it. He evaluated it, and it was found by himself and others to be UNVERIFIED. SO what you do in that situation, is you investigate further and seek more details.


Yes, some real estate speculator evaluated our intelligence community. Just like he did when he said that he believed Putin over our intelligence community. Great point you made there.

But then how could Trump have evaluated it when he claimed he never saw it?

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Originally Posted By: Biscuit
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Well, since when is it a big deal for a foreign nation to put a bounty on the heads of our soldiers? Oh that's right, Trump has ignored the intelligence about that too.


He didn't ignore it. He evaluated it, and it was found by himself and others to be UNVERIFIED.


Your quote, not mine.


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Well, since when is it a big deal for a foreign nation to put a bounty on the heads of our soldiers? Oh that's right, Trump has ignored the intelligence about that too.


He didn't ignore it. He evaluated it, and it was found by himself and others to be UNVERIFIED.


Your quote, not mine.


rofl

yes, after the article by the NY times, he evaluated it.

What bout General Mckenzie? What did he say? Or do you not know.

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So your assertion is a quote from one general is the consensus? Get real.


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Is this the same divide and conquer Trump you claim is listening to our military generals?

Trump attacks Pentagon leaders, says soldiers love him

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/trump-attacks-pentagon-leaders-says-soldiers-love-him/1966063


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Originally Posted By: Biscuit
Give one example of how Trump works to divide the nation. I bet you can't. Not a valid one, anyways. The nation is divided because of a cultural conflict that is decades old. The Democrats just decided to get violent about it the last four years. America has been deeply divided for decades.


Those are some very fine people on both sides...

They are drug dealers and rapists

They live in shi#hole countries

They will be coming to the suburbs.

Too many examples to list.


There will be no playoffs. Can’t play with who we have out there and compounding it with garbage playcalling and worse execution. We don’t have good skill players on offense period. Browns 20 - Bears 17.

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Originally Posted By: Biscuit
Give one example of how Trump works to divide the nation. I bet you can't. Not a valid one, anyways. The nation is divided because of a cultural conflict that is decades old. The Democrats just decided to get violent about it the last four years. America has been deeply divided for decades.


Those are some very fine people on both sides...

They are drug dealers and rapists

They live in shi#hole countries

They will be coming to the suburbs.

Too many examples to list.


Just my 2 cents ... but save your typing. Troll alert.

Your list is short and sweet and there are SO many other things to add.


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Originally Posted By: mgh888


Just my 2 cents ... but save your typing. Troll alert.


There are a couple posters who post crazy stuff (some football related some political viewpoints). There is one poster who I cannot follow half of what he says (And no not Bard. I can actually follow most of his flowery speech) and I haven't placed them on ignore because while I might disagree with what they say, I know they love the Browns and that for the most part are trying to have a decent meaningful conversation.

Biscuit on the other hand I put on ignore. Congrats, you are my 1st! He (she?) is trying stir up trouble rather than have a meaningful conversation. Problem is, the rest of you guys keep replying. Bu what is worse, you quote his post in your reply so I end up seeing the drivel that he continues to post.


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Originally Posted By: Biscuit

I hate to do this, but I have to pull the Gramsci card.


I doubt you hate to do this at all. It's your favorite topic-of-the-day. You must play some sort of game where you try to reference it as much as possible each day. What's your record?


There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.

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I hate to do this, but I have to pull the Gramsci card.


I doubt you hate to do this at all. It's your favorite topic-of-the-day. You must play some sort of game where you try to reference it as much as possible each day. What's your record?


I think they stumbled into the word and then made a new profile on the board just to use it... over and over and over and over again.


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Business Insider

Justice Department must release redacted portions of Mueller report dealing with criminal charges before Election Day, judge rules

cdavis@insider.com (Charles Davis)
Thu, October 1, 2020, 2:55 AM EDT

The Department of Justice improperly redacted portions of the Mueller report, a US federal judge ruled Wednesday.

The censored parts of the report dealt with potential criminal charges, Russia's hack of the Democratic National Committee, and the Trump campaign's interest in stolen DNC emails, BuzzFeed reported.

US District Court Judge Reggie Walton said those segments of the report must be unredacted by November 2.

The US Department of Justice improperly censored portions of the Mueller report dealing with potential criminal charges and Russia's hacking of the Democratic National Committee, a federal judge ruled Wednesday.

In response to a complaint brought by BuzzFeed reporter Jason Leopold, US District Judge Reggie Walton ruled that Attorney General William Barr's department must release the redacted segments — including portions related to the 2016 Trump campaign's interest in DNC emails stolen by Russia — by November 2, a day before the US election.

According to BuzzFeed, the ruling means the Justice Department "will be obliged to unveil at least 15 previously blacked-out pages from volume one of special counsel Robert Mueller's 448-page report" on Russian electoral interference.

In March 2020, the same judge, appointed to the bench by former President George W. Bush, chastised Attorney General Barr for having issued a "distorted" and "misleading" summary of the Mueller report.

In March 2019, Barr falsely claimed that the report had exonerated Donald Trump, asserting that Mueller had found no evidence of coordination between the president's 2016 campaign and Russia. In fact, the report detailed many contacts between the Trump camp and Russian government assets, though the special counsel said those contacts were not enough to demonstrate, beyond a reasonable doubt, that crimes had occurred.


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They'll just take it to a higher court to keep us from knowing the truth.


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