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remember the good old days when we put Northcutt and KJ at QB (and were doing it SERIOUSLY)

The dude starts for us and plays 100% of the snaps. There has never been any indication he’s a backup let alone going to get cut.

He actually served as the teams game captain for the Cowboys game.

"Things that make you go hmmmm for $500 Alex."

I know we are down two safeties but I don't think there is much of a drop-off from Joseph to Harrison to Redwine.

I really wish we had Teller. That man has been a beast. Luckily Hubbard has been playing well too.

man Ben is going to throw for 600 against our secondary..Was really hoping harrison could have went.

Yea, I am not liking the outlook of our secondary against a red hot Ben. Lets hope our offense can click and keep up with the Steelers. Starting to shape up to be a potential shootout.

If he has time ????

how come every year the Steelers have one maybe two injuries and our roster is DECIMATED?

We are down 1 starter? Harrison is the backup to Joseph and they both play the same position.

Redwine looked good last game and has a 93.6 PFF rating.

Best Defense in the world is a Pass Rush. We will provide plenty of that as Pittsburghs O line is very suspect, and will probably be without David Decastro. Ward, Mitchell and Johnson are gonna have to produce. Running game is our key, Keep Big Ben off the field and he cant hurt us. I believe their corners are very vulnerable, Joe Haden is their best and he is well past his prime. Watched the Philly game, T Fulgraham torched Mike Hilton in the slot for like 10 catches. Our TE's can eat ALL day if we establish a run. Hope Landry and OBJ are good to go, that will open the middle of the field. Go Browns!!!

The problem is that Ben is getting rid of the ball quickly. Our QB is not.

Yet, until the Steelers brought in Todd Haley as OC, he did not get rid of the ball quickly. He held the ball for 4-6 seconds, routinely.

A QB can learn to speed things up, with time. Last year, Freddie ran an offense more in line with Bruce Arians, which is more of a deep, attacking offense. This year he is being asked to learn a whole new offense, with a whole new set of reads and a different style of progressions. It will be interesting to see how he progresses over the rest of this season, and then into next, when he should, presumably, have the same offense in place, along with a normal off-season.

I get that you want to defend Baker and I'm good w/that, but Ben had the ability to extend plays because he is a giant of man and could shrug off tacklers while keeping his eyes downfield. Baker is not that player.

But again............I was just talking about this upcoming game. Baker holds it longer than any qb in the league and Ben is getting rid of it quickly.

Some folks love analytics until they paint a picture they don't like.

I agree that he does get rid of the ball quickly now, and your point about his ability to shrug off tacklers is also valid ..... and it is also valid that he had to learn to speed up things mentally after several years in the league.

I am not defending anyone, just stating what has happened, and what could be a possible path for Baker, as well.

That's fair. And I wasn't getting on you. Sorry if it came across that way.

Just took a look at NextGen stats. Baker holds it longer than any other qb at 3.19 seconds and Ben is getting rid of it quicker than anyone at 2.37 seconds. Wait, he's tied w/Haskins.

I was talking about this in a few other threads and not sure if I want to add these numbers to those threads because it seems like overkill, but knowledge is a good thing. I hope people read these things when posters try and fabricate things across the board.

Well he tends to roll out sooooo

I understand the stats about how long QBs holding onto the ball, but they can really be misleading.

If you QB is doing a lot of designed rollouts and play action (like Stefanski has been doing for Baker), it's definitely going to skew the numbers.

So, I never really put a lot of emphasis on that stat.

I respectfully disagree. I think it is an important stat. I remember how everyone was saying we had the worst OL in the league when Charlie Frye was our qb. DA comes in and we hardly gave up any sacks and the OL was praised.

I do agree that the rollouts will take more time, but we aren't running that many. I will also say that qbs that scramble around a lot like Mahomes, Watson, etc will have slower times. However, it's very evident that Baker holds the ball too long on many plays in the pocket. This occurs when his first read is not open. He is slow to go through his progressions and there is film breakdown to verify this claim.

What's crazy is that Big Ben used to hold it forever and now is getting rid of it quickly. One of my keys to the game is to get pressure on Ben, but it's tough to do so when a qb gets rid of it that quickly.

I know! Cut them all! Fire the whole team! Leadtheway for headcoach!

J/c

I’m a bit concerned about about our secondary tomorrow (and I’m usually concerned with it haha)

The Rapist will have to get the ball out early when MG is coming after him on Sunday.

Landry is overpaid.

Not true. We're not "fully loaded". We're missing Teller and Chubb.

Context: I'm generally not a fan of media, especially the uninformed.

j/c...

Sucks for him. Sorry to see

Yikes. Definitely didn't think it was that bad (I saw his final play and him walking off the field).