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Exactly, Luke.

Think about it, if this was the case, if you had the votes, why couldn't you vote a sitting President unable to run again say 2 years before the election?

I heard a report that they can just vote on that in these circumstances, without a conviction. That law was used to deal with traitors after the Civil War.

I'd like to see the report and the law allowing such. I am not calling you out. I'd like to find out.

My thinking is if so, why wasn't this tried before President Trump even ran this cycle? There may not have been enough votes for it to fly, but based on everything else the dems tried to get the guy out, why not try this?

Not smack talking here, just asking a question.

Impeachment or the 14th Amendment: Can Trump Be Barred From Future Office?

https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/art...m-future-office

I heard it from a talking head, but this article outlines the idea. There is probably more out there with a google search or two.

It has been done before but not with a president. As time unfolds I'm learning more about it. I don't know that it can be done but it's looking like there is precedent that makes it a possibility.

The plain language of section 4 seems to require removal from office upon conviction, and in fact the Senate has removed those persons whom it has convicted. In the 1936 trial of Judge Ritter, the Senate determined that removal is automatic upon conviction, and does not require a separate vote.854 This practice has continued. Because conviction requires a two-thirds vote, this means that removal can occur only as a result of a two-thirds vote. Unlike removal, disqualification from office is a discretionary judgment, and there is no explicit constitutional linkage to the two-thirds vote on conviction. Although an argument can be made that disqualification should nonetheless require a two-thirds vote,855 the Senate has determined that disqualification may be accomplished by a simple majority vote.856

853 See discussion supra of the differences between English and American impeachment.

854 3 Deschler’sprecedents Of The United States House Of Representatives ch. 14, § 13.9.

855 See Michael J. Gerhardt, The Federal Impeachment Process: A Constitutional And Historical Analysis 77–79 (2d ed. 2000).

856 The Senate imposed disqualification twice, on Judges Humphreys and Archbald. In the Humphreys trial the Senate determined that the issues of removal and disqualification are divisible, 3 Hinds’ Precedents Of The House Of Representatives § 2397 (1907), and in the Archbald trial the Senate imposed judgment of disqualification by vote of 39 to 35. 6 Cannon’sprecedents Of The House Of Representatives § 512 (1936). During the 1936 trial of Judge Ritter, a parliamentary inquiry as to whether a two-thirds vote or a simple majority vote is required for disqualification was answered by reference to the simple majority vote in the Archbald trial. 3 Deschler’sprecedents ch. 14, § 13.10. The Senate then rejected disqualification of Judge Ritter by vote of 76–0. 80 Cong. Rec. 5607 (1936).

https://law.justia.com/constitution/us/article-2/49-judgment-removal-and-disqualification.html

Jc

You know what the funniest thing about all this is?

These baby butt conservatives literally begged - BEGGED - for the last 25-30 years to cut taxes and deregulate these corporations under the guise of pro growth policies.

Y’all literally begged for these clowns to have THIS much power, and now won’t stop whining when they actually started flexing it.

Y’all literally begged to open up Pandora’s box and are now trying to blame liberals for your own screw up.

Nah, I don’t feel bad for conservatives whatsoever. They asked for all of this. Own it. Cause us liberals told y’all exactly what would happen if you deregulated business and let them do whatever the hell they wanted.

And it’s hilarious watching conservatives trying to act like these big tech corporations aren’t actually part of the big businesses they kept arguing in favor of. They still big ass multi billion dollar corporations. Just like the auto, oil, and other industries y’all fought like hell to deregulate.

This is what happens when you give large entities unchecked power. We told y’all, and you know what you did?

“ lol cry more lefties!! SOCIALIST SOCIALIST SOCIALIST!! BENGHAZI!!”

Just like true Americans, gotta learn every freaking lesson the hard way.

Oh well.

I'd argue that big tech is the one industry that rules them all these days. Look how fast deplatforming Trump humbled republicans. Between that and losing big donor money for the foreseeable future, they are shook.