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What ever you say 20 cent.

I am closer to the opposite extreme from her on most (if not all) political topics, but I respect that she has her own ideas (as flawed as they may be) and doesn't give a rip about establishment and following along. She's as much a thorn in the side of Pelosi as she is McConnell, and I appreciate that about her.

Yeah, I definitely think she's petty and somewhat catty, but I do think she's far more altruistically motivated than the likes of Pelosi, even if I disagree with her. It's times like this though where she challenges that notion I have, though.

Is that supposed to be an insult?

I'm not the one who said "electro shock therapy and straight jackets"....

Pit thinks so...

My question is who determines who or what might be racist?

As I see it, it is anybody or anything that disagrees with the liberal agenda.

Google Jeff Foxworthy on racism and who may be a racist. Pretty simple and sometimes humorous tell tails.

Oh Puh-lease ! Your schtick and play on what Racism is - getting old and tired.

https://www.google.com/search?

q=define+racism&rlz=1C1GGRV_enUS800US801&oq=define+racism&aqs=chrome..69i57.5380j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Communication and language and meaning is not just what YOU think ... it's what others see, hear and receive from what you say. Being old and from a different era doesn't excuse your behavior - it just means you don't have the desire to change or see things in a different light.

It may be old and tired, but that doesn't answer the question.

No, Pit doesn't 20 cent. Pit is proud not to be an extremist in either direction and finds you a running joke at this point.

BUT YOU ARE AN EXTREMIST! You are extremely center moderate corporatist and despise others that think your politics are garbage! You just can't see that because in your mind you are always right no matter what. Like Trump. And I'm good with 20 cent or whatever other names you want to call me because I know that's all you got. Name calling in place of substance. You and Eve both do that.

you got nothing as usual. Pathetic.

You forgot the purple, right?

That's what you do when someone acts like a spoiled child. You give them nothing. You're no longer worthy of a serious response.

Just curious.. do the anti-fascists currently burning flags, setting fires, breaking windows, attacking federal buildings, combatting law enforcement, and spray painting "Death to Amerikka" on stuff also need deprogrammed?

I mean, I give Biden's stormtroopers credit last night, they tear gassed and pepper bulletted the crap out of them for hours..

just wondering where we want to go with this acceptable group-think deprogramming plan...

Well I have no idea because I haven't seen that. But if they are rioting and doing damage they should be charged criminally. As far as deprogramming, did they fall for some stupid ass conspiracy theory and try to overthrow the US government? Are they so far disconnected from reality that there is no reasoning with them? Do they stand for something or are they acting out of pure hate?

Look, I'm not going to defend every little thing the left does any more than I expect you to defend everything the right does. I don't blame all republicans for the racists in their ranks, just the ones who think that's acceptable. I don't blame all republicans for everything bad that Trump did, just those who continued to support him AFTER he did horrible crap.

And whenever any GOPer like you labels violent actors as "anti fascist" or "ANTIFA", I'm skeptical as hell. First are they actually ANTIFA or some anarchists group? Are they actually leftist or are they right wingers doing crap and claiming to be ANTIFA?

But my attitude at the end of the day is this:

If you do the crime, you should do the time. Punching Nazis should not be a crime. Burning buildings, looting, rioting, harming others... those are all serious crimes. Should they be deprogrammed? It depends on what they believe, if it is based in fact and reality, and if it is harmful to the country. Hating fascists is not harmful to the country, a whole generation hated them much more than we do now... So I hope that answers your question and you can wrap around what I'm trying to say.

I can't help but laugh at some of the post on here toward me lately. I expect Pit to fuss when I attack his centrist moderate corporatism as part of what ails this country, but y'all should know that I'm not attacking Pit for 'his' ideas, just the establishment Ds and Rs that have sold us all out for 40+ years. And it's also a counter attack for being called radical, extremist, socialist (in a bad way), and all the other names I get called for being progressive. I don't care about your politics, religion, opinions, or feelings... I just want a government that works for everybody, has compassion for people, and a return to an empowered middle class with upward mobility instead of a country of the 1% and the completely screwed.

Sorry man. Punching anybody is a crime unless you are a boxer in the ring of sport.



Oh....I asked you some hours ago. Who or what group decides who needs mind control?

I just wanted to pass on something you may want to let Bernie know since you seem to be so close. He's a good guy and has a lot of good plans and ideas. His heart is in the right place and I can't help but like the guy

But man, at the inauguration it was obvious he was cold as hell. He had that heavy long coat on and those thick woolen mittens. But he didn't have his head covered. Please let him know that about 90% of your body heat escapes through your head. I mean the guy understands climate change so you would think he would know this. But it seems not. I don't like seeing Bernie cold.

Just sayin'.

Tell that to the Lions head coach.

NOPE. Punching Nazis should be legal. And I never asked if punching anyone was a crime, it's assault and I know that. But punching Nazis should be legal.

And why would I say any group needs 'mind control'? I said deprogramming. I know that scares you, but it's just a process of undoing the harm caused by lies, conspiracy theories, and authoritarian leadership. As far as deciding who needs it, it should probably be medical professionals. I mean if you were out in town acting out delusions and completely untethered from reality, wouldn't you want somebody to help you? That's what a large portion of the Q crowd and Trump supporters are doing today.

You don't need to be deprogrammed just because you supported Trump or are a republican IMHO, but if you are so screwed in the head that you no longer recognize reality, then you need help. Years of being lied to in echo chambers has done a lot of harm on the right. Your fellow Americans are NOT the enemy of the state.

Isn't that sign #1 that we have a problem when there are rioters destroying parts of an American city and confronting police and tear gas and rubber and pepper bullets are being fired and you, who seems to stay up on the news, isn't aware of it? Could it possibly be because the rioters are leftists and the media is too busy swooning over Biden/Harris?


Cool. That's how I feel every time I hear the word "fascist" "racist" or "nazi"...


TBH this false flag narrative has become the new go-to.. no matter which side protests, as soon as it turns ugly, they blame it on infiltrators from the other side...


Hating fascists is not a bad thing, what is a bad thing is when the media and important people on social media throw out blanket statements about who is a fascist.. going back to Hillary's famous "deplorables" comment where a smallish part of Trump supporters were fascists, we've grown to all Trump supporters are fascists, to all republicans are fascists, to anybody who doesn't openly hate Donald Trump is a fascist.. so who really are the fascists? And what really are they fighting for? Their stated goal, from what I understand is to not allow neo-nazi's and fascists to have a platform to spread hate.. teetering on a violation of free speech but ok... I just don't see how their actions, their constant riots serve the purpose of accomplishing their objectives. Was Trump the leader of the fascists? If so, why are they still protesting? Is Joe Biden also a fascist? Is the mayor of Portland a fascist? Is the governor of Oregon a fascist? Are the owners of the businesses they are destroying fascists? I'm kind of confused by things like that.

I was so sickened by the events on the 6th that I have been avoiding much of the news like it's an active case of COVID. I know Portland was having issues with a group but I have no idea what it's all about because I never did a deep dive to see. And I'm sure you have seen more about it than I have because right wing media is probably pounding it. So, like i said, I would have to know more.

And claiming right wingers infiltrated BLM protest is in no way a false flag. It has been proven. But I agree both sides are doing the blame deflection to some degree.

And I can't help you with what/who is fascist. I think that is something you need to read up on. It would make for a good thread and debate, defining fascism in America.

Call Putin, he will tell you.

I didn't know any violent protests occurred until you posted this. I haven't seen a single mention in the media about it.

You should go to foxnews.com and read all about it.

Andy NGO and Fox are on it... Hopefully Portland will chime in and give us some truth.

As Trump said, "Putin said he didn't do it and I have no reason to doubt him". I mean if Putin's word is good enough for trump it should be good enough for the rest of us, right?

Recent events and hate groups aside, his demeanor and dealings with Putin/Russia was the most alarming thing to me about his presidency. I'm not talking about collusion either, because I thought it was stupid of the Democrats to go down that rabbit hole. I'm talking about what you cited, and when he threw his own intelligence agencies under the bus in favor of Russia (which was half-assedly retracted), the bounty issue, and dragging his feet on sanctions. Something REALLY stank to me about all that.

And, credit given where it's due. I do like that he called out China on some things where previous administrations were silent, but that was more than offset by the Putin/Russia aspect.

Did my post to you a month and a half ago not even register?

Did you not even take the time to critically read a breakdown point by point of actual fascist actions taken by the man who failed at installing his fascist desires?

You're better than this and you know it.

I think we must remember that he and Kim Jong Un fell in love. And how he wanted to pull Troops out of S. Korea. How we depended on the Kurds to help us wipe out ISIS then abandoned them as soon as they had served their purpose.

Abandoning those who had served his purpose has seemed to be a life long theme with him and after watching it in real life for over four years many still haven't figured it out.

The situation is Syria was awful. Just awful. It's what led my boss (not direct obviously), James Mattis, to resign. It also ties back to Russia. Our removal both lost us credibility, and strengthened Russia's in the region.

I obviously don't know for sure, but since Trump made the move against the advice of so many, including Mattis, the circumstantial evidence demonstrates he was pushed to do it from somewhere else. Somewhere that had a stake in the region.

Sadly there are are too many Americans who simply do not care. If it doesn't happen here they feel it really doesn't matter. It's the "America First" mind set. History should be a lesson to us all what happens when we act like the rest of the globe doesn't matter. Soon the impact becomes a huge threat to us.

I'm more conservative in terms of foreign policy and more liberal in terms of social policies.