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Isn't SOP to give the starters a single series in all preseason games (except for the 4th one, in previous years)?


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Isn't SOP to give the starters a single series in all preseason games (except for the 4th one, in previous years)?


Yes, but this is a weird year,, only three games in preseason... I heard on NFL XM that quite a few teams are holding back on starting QB's in the first game


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I hope 0 of our starters play.

The preseason should be to let the backups play and get better and possibly find a hidden gem or two.


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Originally Posted By: oobernoober
Isn't SOP to give the starters a single series in all preseason games (except for the 4th one, in previous years)?


I think all of that stuff changed since we had no preseason games last year, proving that work in the actual games is meaningless.


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The one player who I will pay the most attention to is Jeremiah Owusu Koramora.

He was the player I wanted most in the draft.

I really believe in this young man. And I expect him to play well.

Curious about Greedy. I like him. I want him to succeed. I really liked him coming out of college. He has great feet and good length. He is a good press corner. He needs to get out there and leave the injury behind. He worked hard to get back. Hopefully, he plays well.

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One other thing I will be watching is defensive communications. It seemed "off" last year.


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I’d like to see our backups look competent. Back up OL and safety especially. And I’d like Keenum to be average and not a liability


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I want to see Greedy, Newsome, and JOK. I want to see the defense look like it knows what it's doing overall, without the blatant mistakes of last year's team.


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I expect rookie mistakes and hope for no injuries.


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I know we're supposed to be sitting most/all starters, but I don't see how John Johnson doesn't get on the field...safeties 2-4 are all out with hamstrings. Are we gonna get 100% game snaps from safeties 5 and 6?

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I want to see Kiondre Thomas play and make some plays. UDFA Corner out of Kansas st. iirc.


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I was watching a Teller video from last year, and it reminded me that we still have Drew Forbes on the roster. I haven't heard a thing about him thus far ..... of course I haven't really heard much about any of the OL thus far.


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Originally Posted By: bonefish

The one player who I will pay the most attention to is Jeremiah Owusu Koramora.

He was the player I wanted most in the draft.

I really believe in this young man. And I expect him to play well.

Curious about Greedy. I like him. I want him to succeed. I really liked him coming out of college. He has great feet and good length. He is a good press corner. He needs to get out there and leave the injury behind. He worked hard to get back. Hopefully, he plays well.


I thought Greedy when he did play needed a lot of work. He needs to play well that is for sure. I view him as depth at this point Newsome will get the starts I believe??

I expect JOK to flash, he has a lot of catching up to do and I think will play a very small roll in the Browns defense this year at least to start as he masters one alignment at a time. He is going to be a stud, but it is likely to take time. I really trust our coaches to handle him just right. It's so important for young players to have some time to develop and I also think it's why we had so many failures with past draft picks. Build up his confidence work him in areas that lead to success and grow his roll as he shows he can handle it.


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Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
I was watching a Teller video from last year, and it reminded me that we still have Drew Forbes on the roster. I haven't heard a thing about him thus far ..... of course I haven't really heard much about any of the OL thus far.


At he least it is interesting, possibly troubling that we haven't heard anything about Forbes.

He might be a guy to watch and see if and when he is used.


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Mostly I want to see improvement from the defense.
How good Greg Newsome is and if he can be a shut down corner.
See how good JOK is and if he can improve our LB core.
Want to see improvement from Mack Wilson.
If Clowney still has it and can improve our D-line.

On offense Baker will probably play a series or two or not at all. Want to see how Keenum does and improvement from the O-line.

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The Cornerbacks should be the biggest worries.

So they have 3 reliable corners, and one of them is a rookie.

I hope the UDFA's step up, because ... somebody!

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I wouldn't read to much into it. Our Oline was awesome and everyone is returning. Pretty much end of story.


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Communication or execution. Good calls, crappy tackling lame coverage on the back end.

I want to see some crisp defense, Keenum to stand out, and an OL that has some depth. Part of what I hope to see is what I hope I don't see: Injuries and penalties, in that selfsame order. Hope we play tough and get off the field. Starters should stay off the field as much as possible.

Really want to see the defense. Want to see how big and deep the rotation will be, and what the PS might look like. This year more than ever since the Return, we will be cutting talent, not just flushing the wrong guys. Luck to all. Kick some tonight. brownie


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What makes it so hard is usually our depth is playing against their depth. So trying to project how that would translate in a regular season game against an opponents staring caliber players is something that's damned near impossible to determine.

You can certainly look at their technique, Keenum's accuracy and such. But with better CB's and S's, better pass rushers who might apply more pressure, would he do as well?

I'll just be happy to see some Browns football. But over the years I've learned it isn't really going to tell me much big picture. I've seen us go 4-0 in the preseason and then suck all year.

Naturally we have the talent now that I can't see anything like that happening but it's a strong indication that you really can't garner much insight from preseason.


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rofl I originally thought, that I remember from about 1980-1982. But

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Originally Posted By: THROW LONG
I understand so many people were born much younger


We were all born at the same age. Newborns.


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How 'bout what I don't want to see... ever again...

AJ McCarron has no business playing QB. Talk about us dodging a bullet. In his Atlanta debut he was 5 of 12 for 36 yards and two terrible interceptions thrown directly to the defender. This is an honest assessment, regardless of who posted it:



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Jeremiah plays linebacker but in many ways he reminds me of Ed Reed.

JOK has that ability to knife past blockers much like Reed use to. It is a matter of slipping past blockers not letting them get to you clean.

I saw him do it on a couple plays.

I expected him to play well. There were probably things he messed up. But, once he gets comfortable inside the defense and he knows his assignments. He will be a star.

He can cover a slot and shoot a gap on a blitz. That is because of his skill set. He has unique natural ability.

IMO he will improve each game. He will be a factor in games.

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Originally Posted By: oobernoober
I wouldn't read to much into it. Our Oline was awesome and everyone is returning. Pretty much end of story.


I wasn't reading much in to it. It's just that much was made of the guy 2 years ago before the opt out, and now nothing. I find it a bit troubling from the standpoint that he isn't being mentioned, not from the standpoint I was counting on him to start or anything like that.


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I haven't heard much about any of our backup OL, except for when reporters as about the kid we took this year in the draft.


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I just don't think many eyes are on the Oline depth. Pretty much any other positional group has a more compelling story going on in it.


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