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Forgot all about Schlichter.....

Former NFL QB Art Schlichter Released from Prison After Sentence on Fraud Charges
TIM DANIELS
SEPTEMBER 01, 2021

Former Ohio State and Indianapolis Colts quarterback Art Schlichter was released from prison on parole in June despite concerns from a former Franklin County prosecutor in Ohio.

Dana Hunsinger Benbow of the Indianapolis Star reported Tuesday that Schlichter was granted parole nine years into 10- and 11-year concurrent prison sentences related to his guilty plea in a federal fraud case—a "massive ticket scheme that bilked millions of dollars from his victims."

Former prosecutor Ron O'Brien told the Star they received information shortly before Schlichter was scheduled for release last year that he was working with women on the outside to place bets for him and also engaged in betting with fellow inmates over email.

O'Brien provided a warning to people who many interact with the 61-year-old Ohio native following his release.

"My advice to anyone coming upon Mr. Schlichter is that they not engage in any business transactions or any purchases or any other transactions that would involve giving him any money," he told the Star. "[He] is a career criminal engaged in fraud as a career. He just cannot help himself. He will do this the rest of his life."

Schlichter's lifelong battle with gambling addiction has long been in the public spotlight. In 1983, an article appeared in the New York Times entitled "Schlichter: A Pattern of Gambling That Began in His Youth."

That deep dive into his gambling problem came after he was suspended by NFL commissioner Pete Rozelle for the 1983 season.

The former quarterback didn't shy away from the issue, co-writing a book called Busted: The Rise and Fall of Art Schlichter in 2009 before his latest prison sentence.

American Greed, a CNBC series, also explored his life in a 2017 episode titled "Art Schlichter: All American Fraud."

Benbow noted Schlichter has spent a total of around two decades at over 50 different prisons and jails.

Schlichter spent four years at Ohio State (1978-81) before being selected by the Colts with the fourth overall pick in the 1982 draft. He made just 13 appearances (six starts) across four years with the franchise. He made a brief stop with the Buffalo Bills in 1986 before his NFL career ended.

He later found success in the Arena Football League, winning the AFL's MVP Award and Arena Bowl championship during the 1990 season with the Detroit Drive.

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How long before he violates parole and lands back in prison?

I'll put the over/under at 18 months...


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Originally Posted By: FATE
How long before he violates parole and lands back in prison?

I'll put the over/under at 18 months...



I'm curious which way Art will play it. Will he play the over or the under??? naughtydevil


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Originally Posted By: TTTDawg
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How long before he violates parole and lands back in prison?

I'll put the over/under at 18 months...



I'm curious which way Art will play it. Will he play the over or the under??? naughtydevil

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I can't believe they let him out.

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Gambling addiction is horrible. As bad or worse than substance addiction in many cases. So few find their way out of that hall of mirrors.




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Originally Posted By: 10YrOvernightSuccess
Gambling addiction is horrible. As bad or worse than substance addiction in many cases. So few find their way out of that hall of mirrors.


I remember reading years ago that he would go to the horse track with Coach Earle Bruce. Not implying anything as I would have no idea when he started gambling. Just always seemed odd to me.

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Originally Posted By: 10YrOvernightSuccess
Gambling addiction is horrible. As bad or worse than substance addiction in many cases. So few find their way out of that hall of mirrors.


Years ago(late-late 70's/early 80's) I used to play the pacers and trotters quite a bit at Northfield Park. I actually hit the last race Trifecta on one of my first times there. Walked outta there with $1300+ duckets.

I thought, WHATTA WAY TO MAKE $$$...!!! nanner

Gave it back and then some. Not remotely near "a gang of money", but, I learned.

Some don't.

However, I do play the Kentucky Derby, the Preakness and the Belmont every year via an online acct and watch from the recliner. thumbsup


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Originally Posted By: 10YrOvernightSuccess
Gambling addiction is horrible. As bad or worse than substance addiction in many cases. So few find their way out of that hall of mirrors.


That’s one of the vices I’ve never been caught up in. But I’ve seen it in others: I’ve watched friends of mine blow their paycheque in less than an hour playing the VLT machines. A terrible disease.


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Originally Posted By: TTTDawg
Originally Posted By: 10YrOvernightSuccess
Gambling addiction is horrible. As bad or worse than substance addiction in many cases. So few find their way out of that hall of mirrors.


Years ago(late-late 70's/early 80's) I used to play the pacers and trotters quite a bit at Northfield Park. I actually hit the last race Trifecta on one of my first times there. Walked outta there with $1300+ duckets.

I thought, WHATTA WAY TO MAKE $$$...!!! nanner

Gave it back and then some. Not remotely near "a gang of money", but, I learned.

Some don't.

However, I do play the Kentucky Derby, the Preakness and the Belmont every year via an online acct and watch from the recliner. thumbsup



No doubt it can provide a thrill. For some more than others.

My wife and I have been to Las Vegas dozens of times over the last 40 years. More for shows, vibe, and dining over the gambling.

My wife and I like to gamble some, but we both dislike losing our money over winning money, so we are able to set our limits. Once our basic limit is gone, that is pretty much it. We may go over a bit, but that is sitting at the nickel slots for a few hours where $50 goes a long way.

Here are my two rules for gambling.

1. Set your limit to where you can afford to lose it all and simply call it a fun night on the town. For some, that might be $100. Others, $50,000. It just depends on how much you have to burn.

2. You can never win your money back. You can only win house money, and the odds aren't in your favor.


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I don't feel I ever had a 'problem', per se... but when I decided that gambling is pure entertainment and not anything more, and to consider whatever was changed into chips as 'spent' vs still mine, it made gambling far more enjoyable and less costly.


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Great advice from both you and oober. I've never gone about it any other way. But then those are the very principals I was taught by my dad as it pertains to gambling and it has served me well.


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I had a roommate in the 90’s who knew where every back room card game was in whatever town he was in. News flash, there’s high stakes back room joints in every major town and games are 24/7. I don’t know if that’s true anymore with the advent of internet gambling but that was definitely true into the early 00’s. We got sober at the same time but he had this whole other thing. He was the classic “I’m heading out for cigarettes” and comes back 3 days later, shutting all the lights, peaking through the blinds and not answering the phone kind of guy. He started packing at all times and was always either on top of the world or in the gutter, never in between. We had dozens of conversation about him stopping and he totally understood intellectually that it was another addiction but he never even lasted a week. He started getting into some shady money laundering stuff with some very sketchy people he owed and I knew it wasn’t going to last. He was either going to prison or going to get killed. Shortly after I moved California he just disappeared, evaporated. No one I know that knew him has any idea what happened to him. He just vanished. I probably don’t need to say that I have a very dark feeling about it. He was often up or down 10’s of thousands (which was crazy money to us back then) and the people he was dealing with did not play. It was heart breaking because he was genuinely a super good guy, really sweet, funny, helped a bunch of people get sober. And so smart! I went to a good college and I know some very smart people, people who run large companies, people who have made gobs of money in finance and who cognitively can run circles around me and I’m telling you he was right there with them. Never went to college, pretty modest background but amazing pattern recognition and a head for numbers. A card counter as good as any and knew how to hide it. He taught me. He just could not stop when he was ahead. It was his Achilles. It was like being drunk, literally. He’s one of those guys that could have won WSOP if had any brakes. He just could. not. stop.




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Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
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Originally Posted By: 10YrOvernightSuccess
Gambling addiction is horrible. As bad or worse than substance addiction in many cases. So few find their way out of that hall of mirrors.


Years ago(late-late 70's/early 80's) I used to play the pacers and trotters quite a bit at Northfield Park. I actually hit the last race Trifecta on one of my first times there. Walked outta there with $1300+ duckets.

I thought, WHATTA WAY TO MAKE $$$...!!! nanner

Gave it back and then some. Not remotely near "a gang of money", but, I learned.

Some don't.

However, I do play the Kentucky Derby, the Preakness and the Belmont every year via an online acct and watch from the recliner. thumbsup



No doubt it can provide a thrill. For some more than others.

My wife and I have been to Las Vegas dozens of times over the last 40 years. More for shows, vibe, and dining over the gambling.

My wife and I like to gamble some, but we both dislike losing our money over winning money, so we are able to set our limits. Once our basic limit is gone, that is pretty much it. We may go over a bit, but that is sitting at the nickel slots for a few hours where $50 goes a long way.

Here are my two rules for gambling.

1. Set your limit to where you can afford to lose it all and simply call it a fun night on the town. For some, that might be $100. Others, $50,000. It just depends on how much you have to burn.

2. You can never win your money back. You can only win house money, and the odds aren't in your favor.
well said. I remember my grandpa always telling me … pretend like you threw that money out of the window on the way to the casino. Because there’s a great chance you’ll be leaving without it


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Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
Originally Posted By: TTTDawg
Originally Posted By: 10YrOvernightSuccess
Gambling addiction is horrible. As bad or worse than substance addiction in many cases. So few find their way out of that hall of mirrors.


Years ago(late-late 70's/early 80's) I used to play the pacers and trotters quite a bit at Northfield Park. I actually hit the last race Trifecta on one of my first times there. Walked outta there with $1300+ duckets.

I thought, WHATTA WAY TO MAKE $$$...!!! nanner

Gave it back and then some. Not remotely near "a gang of money", but, I learned.

Some don't.

However, I do play the Kentucky Derby, the Preakness and the Belmont every year via an online acct and watch from the recliner. thumbsup



No doubt it can provide a thrill. For some more than others.

My wife and I have been to Las Vegas dozens of times over the last 40 years. More for shows, vibe, and dining over the gambling.

My wife and I like to gamble some, but we both dislike losing our money over winning money, so we are able to set our limits. Once our basic limit is gone, that is pretty much it. We may go over a bit, but that is sitting at the nickel slots for a few hours where $50 goes a long way.

Here are my two rules for gambling.

1. Set your limit to where you can afford to lose it all and simply call it a fun night on the town. For some, that might be $100. Others, $50,000. It just depends on how much you have to burn.

2. You can never win your money back. You can only win house money, and the odds aren't in your favor.


That's exactly how we handle it. The wife and I take a few hundred dollars, what we usually spend in a night on the town. She'll park herself with whoever we are with at the slots. I usually hit the cheap Blackjack table (it (could be anywhere from $5-15) first. If I'm clicking along and winning, I'll stay there most of the night. If I lose a chunk quickly or reach a preset limit, I'll go play video poker the rest of the night. Those two games are the best odds in the casino for the occasional gambler, and I enjoy them. We rarely lose it all, but we also rarely come home ahead. We don't go to the casino very often.


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My wife and I as well. We went many times in the 80s and 90s. Generally 2-3 times a year over a 12-15ish year period. Never mid summer. WayWayWay to hot(humid).

Generally spring and fall.

Prebooked quite a bit of shows. At least 2 per trip.

And, I might add, one year we actually came home ahead. nanner


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