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All right out of the communist playbook. Indoctrinate the children.

Spoken just like a man that supports Russias best american friend....

These parents are nuts.. they'd do anything to protect their children from a child molester... But cry foul if the kids have to wear masks..

Idiots

no one cares

#fauxoutrage

I'm certainly no fan of hair on fire book burners who think their 'morals' are under assault. But I can also see why this books wording is offensive. But the principal agreed, and the book is out... But that is not enough for the blood thirsty right. Charging the school board with child pornography charges is ludicrous. Speaking up was not.

So much GOPer spin... If you think this is unbiased reporting you are a fool.

You sure are an expert on communism, Russia must be your plan B.

What was the reaction of the school board about this mother addressing CRT being taught in the classroom?

No more public comments are allowed at the Carmel, NY school board meetings!

Well when people can't speak like normal adults......

Could you expound on what you mean here?

No.

Interesting.

So your sig means only what you want to to mean, only when you want it to mean that?

It means our discussions are never productive so I decided in this instance not to engage in one. And none of this has anything to do with my sig. unless you consider yourself one of the less fortunate.

I hear a lot of stories of things that make me glad my kids made it out of public school because I adamantly disagree with them..

There are also a lot of things the right calls "woke activism" that aren't even close to that..

It's one of the new easy catch phrases that people can just start shouting without knowing what it actually means.

Published May 30
What does ‘woke’ mean?


The word was first printed in a 1962 New York Times essay by the author William Melvin Kelley


By Michael Ruiz | Fox News


What is woke?

Aside from being the past participle of wake, for decades, it meant conscious and aware – but the slang word has come to represent an embrace of progressive activism, as well.

Merriam-Webster added the word to its dictionary in 2017, defining it as, "aware of and actively attentive to important facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice)." The Oxford dictionary adopted it the same year, defining it as "originally: well-informed, up-to-date. Now chiefly: alert to racial or social discrimination and injustice."

"Woke is a slang term that is easing into the mainstream from some varieties of a dialect called African American Vernacular English (sometimes called AAVE)," according to Merriam-Webster. "In AAVE, awake is often rendered as woke, as in, ‘I was sleeping, but now I’m woke.’"

The meaning appears to have shifted sometime after Erykah Badu repeatedly used the line "I stay woke" in her 2008 song, "Master Teacher," which begins, "I am known to stay awake."
Rapper Meek Mill performs "Stay Woke" onstage at the 2018 BET Awards at Microsoft Theater on June 24, 2018 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Kevin Mazur/Getty Images for BET)

Rapper Meek Mill performs "Stay Woke" onstage at the 2018 BET Awards at Microsoft Theater on June 24, 2018 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Kevin Mazur/Getty Images for BET)

After the song came out, "’Stay woke’ became a watch word in parts of the Black community for those who were self-aware, questioning the dominant paradigm and striving for something better," according to Merriam-Webster.


Then in 2013 and 2014, after Florida man George Zimmerman was acquitted in Trayvon Martin’s slaying and the police-involved death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., a wave of Black Lives Matter activism emerged around the country. The phrase went from Twitter hashtag to rallying cry.

"The word woke became entwined with the Black Lives Matter movement; instead of just being a word that signaled awareness of injustice or racial tension, it became a word of action," according to Merriam-Webster. "Activists were woke and called on others to stay woke."

In 2018, the rapper Meek Mill took the phrase as the top single on his album "Legends of the Summer."

The BLM-themed "Stay Woke" was his first song since getting out of prison in April of that year.

DEMOCRATS GETTING INCREASINGLY NERVOUS ABOUT WOKE CULTURE

"How can I pledge allegiance to the flag," he raps in the final verse. "When they killin' all our sons, all our dads?"

But the meaning of woke evolved again with the rise of "cancel culture" -- as the two terms saw increased use, they became intertwined in the public consciousness. Often, someone gets canceled after they say something insensitive – something not woke.

So an addition to meaning aware and progressive, many people now interpret woke to be a way to describe people who would rather silence their critics than listen to them.

That’s entirely different than what the word meant when it first appeared in print.

That was in a 1962 New York Times article about beatniks and pop culture absorbing jazz music and African American slang from Harlem, Oxford revealed in a June 2017 article about new words heading into the dictionary.

That article, written by the Black New York City novelist William Melvin Kelley was titled, "If you’re woke, you dig it" – meaning if you’re in the know, you understand.

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As he noted at the time, a lot of jazz-era idioms became mainstream speech, and words like cool and hip. But the slang was already evolving in meaning back then.

"At one time, the connotations of ‘jive’ were all good," Kelley wrote. "Now they are bad, or at least questionable."

A decade later, in Barry Beckham’s "Garvey Lives!" play about the Black Nationalist leader and publisher Marcus Garvey, a character named Strong vows that he "won’t go to sleep" but instead will "stay woke."

"I been sleeping all my life," he says. "And now that Mr. Garvey done woke me up, I’m gon stay woke. And I’m gon help him wake up other Black folk."

Now it’s not so much a racial term as an ideological one.


https://www.foxnews.com/us/what-does-woke-mean

One of the best teachers that I had in High School was one that many parents in the community disliked because he was willing to teach controversial material, in his case, material that was offensive to the more strictly religious people.
I did not agree with a lot of what this teacher himself believed and he didn't expect us to agree with him. Any sensible person, that was in those classes would realize that he was intentionally exposing young adults to ideas that they were not used to because we were about to go out into a world that had many ideas that we might not agree with. He wanted us to be able to think for ourselves.
I understand that there are a very small number of bad teachers that want to use their position to manipulate young minds. These few teachers are bad, but are young adults really any better off being sent out into the world without having been exposed to dangerous ideas and people with dangerous ideas?
To me, this sort of parental rebellion against the schools just comes off as another form of helicopter parenting.
I don't agree with a lot of the crap that many teachers think, but I want my kids to be exposed to these ideas and to be able to think and talk about these ideas. It's important that schools be transparent about their curriculum and that kids be able to express different opinions and ideas without being ostracized or punished. Aside from that, I say cut the teachers some slack. In my experience, 90% of teachers are doing their best and they feel the same way as I do about teaching kids to think, not teaching kids what to think.

A few years ago, I switched schools and communities within our district.

The new community was a bit different than where I started off, and one of my students came in with edgy political tshirts. Typical right-wing provocative type stuff about ICE, liberal tears, wanting to offend people, etc. I did acknowledge his shirts one day by saying “hey, your shirts make it apparent that you hold strong opinions.” He laughed it off and said he did it to just offend people.

That student and I saw things eye to eye. He would do more for me than other teachers, remakes about how “Rocket and the other teacher are the only ones who care about me in the school.” My other two colleagues he didn’t like loved to throw religion in his face in passive aggressive ways, we’re a public school…, and generally gave him attention for anything negative he did. They never bothered to acknowledge the positive aspects of his character.

One day, this student wanted to know my personal politics. It’s an ethical line to cross, especially sharing personal politics and religious preferences, with students. I always tell them “sorry, can’t and won’t tell you. I’m here to teach you the facts and help you learn the tools to communicate with the world.” Well, he pushed further and said “Mr. Rocket, you must be down with President Trump. I’m sure you’re part of MAGA nation!” I kept my composure and thought “…huh? What about me tells this student that I support MAGA sentiments?” After awhile, I realized he thought this because I earned his respect. He really only respected people who met him where he was at, and then he projected his values onto those he looked up to.

The student wasn’t an angel, but he was always honest with me when he went outside the lines. I really enjoyed having him in class.

What happened in Sacramento was awful. I’m probably the farthest left individual on this board, and even I know educators should never do what that one idiot did. People like him are a rarity.

There’s far more conservative leaning teachers in the profession than the media leads you to believe.

Good job!

That's awesome.

Just curious because I would be interested in the answer. Did you ever ask him why he felt the need to go out of his way to try to offend people?

I remember one event when I was a senior in HS. We had a sub in physics one day. Guy was probably 30ish years old and I think he was working on his masters at the local college and subbing for some cash.

So since he was a sub, there wasn't a lot on his agenda to do for our class and we were sitting around talking about the latest horror movie that was out and one of the girls in our class made the comment that her little sister, who was about 12, had watched it. That's when the sub jumped into the conversation. One of the things he said, which one of the kids relayed back to their parents, which got back to the administration and caused the ruckus was this, "I don't have kids yet, but if I did, I'd rather have them watch porn than watch a horror movie. I can deal with the moral ramifications of what they would see in a porn movie but horror movies can cause subconscious trauma in young people that is much harder to deal with later in life."

Now I don't care if you agree with this sentiment or not.. I kind of do.. but it's something a 17 or 18 year old kid should have been able to hear, process, and think about without running home to their parents and ratting the guy out for suggesting that young people should watch porn.. which isn't what he said at all. I just thought it was an interesting perspective to ponder... As a 17 year old at the time, I had never processed in my brain that watching horror movies could be doing actual damage, leaving issues deep down that I might have to deal with later...

He always looked for attention; a lot of students who misbehave are just like that.

For some, they grow up in a rough way and the only attention they’re used to is getting it through negative actions.

I wonder if if would have been able to verbalize that or what he thought was the reason. I doubt he consciously said to himself that he was doing this to get attention. Even though that is the most common reaasin for stuff like that.

And if could recognize the reason, would that have affected his behavior?

Certainly unanswerable questions. Just esoteric thoughts to contemplate.