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I've seen Wilkerson anywhere from 18 to 58. Cannon is another that is all over the place some have him going to the Packers in the first others have him going in the 4th.

The reason I say Wilkerson is one of the biggest secrets in the draft is because he is never mentioned. I think if you ask any of the talking heads who are your top 10 defensive linemen few if any would list this kid in that group and he could easily be the best DT in this draft.

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Mayock has Wilkerson as ranked 26th overall on his top 32 prospects and has him the as the 3rd best defensive tackle.

I can't link to it (ESPN Insider) but the biggest talking head of them all, Mel Kiper has him as the 3rd best defensive tackle.

Scouts Inc, the scouting service Todd McShay works out of, has Muhammad Wilkerson slotted to play defensive end in a 3-4 and he's ranked as the 5th overall defensive end.

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I think that if Mitchell could be a #1 in the NFL, we would have seen something. He has the potential to be a faster James Jones. To me, that's it. Somebody who works in the slot as a #3 or #4 receiver. He is not polished enough in his route running or in his catching of the football to work anywhere else really. He is not explosive off the line, which is crucial. He is not very strong. Any #1 cornerback would eat him alive at the LOS. He has a long way to go and if we go into our season thinking that Mitchell will just grow into a #1 guy, then our FO is a bunch of retards.

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1. Carolina - Cam Newton, QB
2. Denver - Marcel Dareus, DT
3. Buffalo - Von Miller, DE/LB
4. Cincinnati - A.J. Green, WR
5. Arizona - Patrick Peterson, CB
6. Cleveland - Robert Quinn, DE
7. San Francisco - Blaine Gabbert, QB
8. Tennessee - Nick Fairley, DT
9. Dallas - Tyron Smith, OT
10. Washington - Julio Jones, WR
11. Houston - Aldon Smith, DE/LB
12. Minnesota - Jake Locker, QB
13. Detroit - Prince Amukamara, CB
14. St. Louis - Corey Liuget, DT
15. Miami - Mike Pouncey, OL
16. Jacksonville - Ryan Kerrigan, DE
17. New England - Cameron Jordan, DE/DT
18. San Diego - J.J. Watt, DE/DT
19. N.Y. Giants - Anthony Castonzo, OT
20. Tampa Bay - Da'Quan Bowers, DE
21. Kansas City - Gabe Carimi, OT
22. Indianapolis - Derek Sherrod, OT
23. Philadelphia - Jimmy Smith, CB
24. New Orleans - Muhammed Wilkerson, DT
25. Seattle - Ryan Mallett, QB
26. Baltimore - Cameron Heyward, DE/DT
27. Atlanta - Justin Houston, DE
28. New England - Brooks Reed, DE/LB
29. Chicago - Nate Solder, OT
30. N.Y. Jets - Phil Taylor, DT
31. Pittsburgh - Benjamin Ijalana, OL
32. Green Bay - Akeem Ayers, LB

33. New England - Mark Ingram, RB
34. Buffalo - Colin Kaepernick, QB
35. Cincinnati - Christian Ponder, QB
36. Denver - Kyle Rudolph, TE
37. Cleveland - Marvin Austin, DT
38. Arizona - Jabaal Sheard, DE/LB
39. Tennessee - Andy Dalton, QB
40. Dallas - Christian Ballard, DE/DT
41. Washington - Mikel Leshoure, RB
42. Houston - Aaron Williams, CB
43. Minnesota - Adrian Clayborn, DE
44. Detroit - Martez Wilson, LB
45. San Francisco - Brandon Harris, CB
46. Denver - Stephen Paea, DT
47. St. Louis - Randall Cobb, WR
48. Oakland - Stefen Wisniewski, OL
49. Jacksonville - Torrey Smith, WR
50. San Diego - Ras-I Dowling, CB
51. Tampa Bay - Danny Watkins, OL
52. N.Y. Giants - Bruce Carter, LB
53. Indianapolis - Rahim Moore, S
54. Philadelphia - Rodney Hudson, OL
55. Kansas City - Jonathan Baldwin, WR
56. New Orleans - Ryan Williams, RB
57. Seattle - Marcus Cannon, OL
58. Baltimore - Davon House, CB
59. Atlanta - Jerrel Jernigan, WR
60. New England - Orlando Franklin, OL
61. San Diego - Sam Acho, DE/LB
62. Chicago - Drake Nevis, DT
63. Pittsburgh - Curtis Brown, CB
64. Green Bay - Allen Bailey, DE/DT

65. Carolina - Kenrick Ellis, DT
66. Cincinnati - Tyler Sash, S
67. Denver - Quan Sturdivant, LB
68. Buffalo - Jarvis Jenkins, DE/DT
69. Arizona - Will Rackley, OL
70. Cleveland - Titus Young, WR
71. Dallas - Brandon Burton, CB
72. New Orleans - Mason Foster, LB
73. Houston - James Carpenter, OL
74. New England - Leonard Hankerson, WR
75. Detroit - Clint Boling, OL
76. San Francisco - Chris Carter, DE/LB
77. Tennessee - Greg Jones, LB
78. St. Louis - Taiwan Jones, RB
79. Miami - Daniel Thomas, RB
80. Jacksonville - Quinton Carter, S
81. Oakland - Chimdi Chekwa, CB
82. San Diego - Marcus Gilbert, OL
83. N.Y. Giants - Luke Stocker, TE
84. Tampa Bay - Lance Kendricks, TE
85. Philadelphia - Jurrell Casey, DT
86. Kansas City - Dontay Moch, LB
87. Indianapolis - Jerrell Powe, DT
88. New Orleans - DeAndre McDaniel, S
89. San Diego - Kelvin Sheppard, LB
90. Baltimore - Tandon Doss, WR
91. Atlanta - D.J. Williams, TE
92. New England - Johnny Patrick, CB
93. Chicago - Edmund Gates, WR
94. N.Y. Jets - Greg Little, WR
95. Pittsburgh - Sione Fua, DT
96. Green Bay - Kendall Hunter, RB
97. Carolina - James Brewer, OL

98. Carolina - Marcus Gilchrist, CB
99. Seattle - Pernell McPhee, DE
100. Buffalo - Jordan Cameron, TE
101. Cincinnati - Jordan Todman, RB
102. Cleveland - Jason Pinkston, OL
103. Arizona - Ricky Stanzi, QB
104. Philadelphia - Casey Matthews, LB
105. Houston - Jaiquawn Jarrett, S
106. Minnesota - Curtis Marsh, CB
107. Detroit - DeMarco Murray, RB
108. San Francisco - Jacquizz Rodgers, RB
109. Tennessee - Shareece Wright, CB
110. Dallas - Chris Conte, S
111. Miami - Vincent Brown, WR
112. St. Louis - John Moffitt, OL
113. Oakland - Virgil Green, TE
114. Jacksonville - Kendric Burney, CB
115. San Francisco - Kristofer O'Dowd, OL
116. Tampa Bay - Shane Vereen, RB
117. N.Y. Giants - Terrell McClain, DT
118. Kansas City - Jake Kirkpatrick, OL
119. Indianapolis - Terrance Toliver, WR
120. Philadelphia - Ahmad Black, S
121. Jacksonville - Nate Irving, LB
122. Buffalo - Colin McCarthy, LB
123. Baltimore - Jeremy Beal, DE/LB
124. Atlanta - K.J. Wright, LB
125. New England - Joseph Barksdale, OL
126. N.Y. Jets - Robert Sands, S
127. Chicago - Demarcus Love, OL
128. Pittsburgh - Lawrence Guy, DE/DT
129. Green Bay - Austin Pettis, WR
130. Tennessee - Greg Romeus, DE
131. Green Bay - Rashad Carmichael, CB

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Great 1-3, Im not familiar with Pinkston in the 4th so I would be tempted to add stanzi to replace jake or seneca. But I would love if we ended up Quinn,Austin,Young.


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I like any Moch that has us taking a good DE and DT in the first two rounds. I like Pettis, too... but I see Pinkston as strictly a guard. I'd have preferred Carpenter in the 3rd and V. Brown in the 4th, but that's nitpicking. I'd be happy if this was the way the draft went.

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With Quinn DE NC in round 1 and Austin DT NC in round 2 you could have grabbed:

Little WR NC in the 3rd
Sturdivant LB NC in the 4th
Williams S NC in the 5th
Perhaps TJ Yates QB NC in the 6th or 7th.

If nothing else that would be the best draft Butch Davis ever gave us.


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But seriously, nice work.

If the top 5 play out that way I am using all our time on the clock looking to trade down.

Titus Young or Leonard Hankerson in the 3rd are great value.

I see you have Brewer going to Carolina at the end of the 3rd but I firmly believe that if he is there when our 4th round pick comes around then he is the guy we choose.


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I see Pinkston as strictly a guard.




I agree, but I also see Pinkston as a pretty decent backup OT. Also, he'd be a really good OG for us as he's quick with his feet (WCO tend to have alot of pulling OGs).

depends on if we decide we can resign Yates. if we are pretty sure we are keeping him, then no reason for Pinkston. if we think we will lose him, then Pinkston and Lavaou can battle for RG.


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I like any Moch that has us taking a good DE and DT in the first two rounds. I like Pettis, too... but I see Pinkston as strictly a guard. I'd have preferred Carpenter in the 3rd and V. Brown in the 4th, but that's nitpicking. I'd be happy if this was the way the draft went.




Wow... now there's a freudian slip that's hard to explain. Especially considering my feelings on the actual guy.

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I like any Moch that has us taking a good DE and DT in the first two rounds. I like Pettis, too... but I see Pinkston as strictly a guard. I'd have preferred Carpenter in the 3rd and V. Brown in the 4th, but that's nitpicking. I'd be happy if this was the way the draft went.




Wow... now there's a freudian slip that's hard to explain. Especially considering my feelings on the actual guy.




it's the first time I have seen you write "moch" and "good DE" in the same sentence.


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I'm not trying to be mean or anything ..... but we went the big strong WR who drops the ball like it was second nature a few years ago ... and if we do so again, I will projectile vomit.


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Will Smith and Heyward as "Buckeye Bookends" in NO.

I've given up on Carimi falling to #37 (in September last year), so we're not getting our "Badger Bookends" so it'd be cool to still be able to use an associated nickname


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I'm not trying to be mean or anything ..... but we went the big strong WR who drops the ball like it was second nature a few years ago ... and if we do so again, I will projectile vomit.




Julio has much better character and works his behind off. That is what seperates him from braLEON

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But he still drops easy passes that hit him in the hands. He lacks concentration. We went down that road, and it was great for 1 year, and frustrating as hell the rest of his time here.


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Julio has almost entirely overcome his dropping issues. It doesn't happen often. And like candy said, Julio is a completely different person than Braylon.

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Julio has almost entirely overcome his dropping issues. It doesn't happen often. And like candy said, Julio is a completely different person than Braylon.

Also, nice mock, candy. It's pretty similar to mine, actually.

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Jason La Canfora is saying the Redskins want to move up to pick #2 to get Gabbert.

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Let's see... they have no 3rd or 4th round pick this year and they're at 10.

My guess is this year's 1st and 5th, and next year's 1st and 2nd should get them there.

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Shanahan traded up to get Cutler in Denver also.

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