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Pretty good read. http://espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&post_id=16911Joe Banner "In The Driver's Seat" of NFL Draft Apr 25, 2013 -- 3:16pm By: Will Burge Are you confused about what the Browns will do with the sixth overall pick in the NFL draft? Don’t worry, so is everyone else. A league source told ESPN Cleveland today that Joe Banner is “in the driver’s seat” for the entire 2013 draft. There has been a cloud of secrecy over the Browns’ organization for the past few months. No one can quite get a read on which direction the new front office will go when it is their turn to select. Over the past 72 hours there has been a flurry of rumors about who the Browns will select, their desire to trade up, their desire to trade down, and even their desire to acquire players from other teams. “When Joe (Banner) came back into the league with (the Browns) everyone knew they were going to have to deal with him. I don’t think anyone expected it to be on this level,” said the league source. “He has every team thinking something different, he has every media outlet reporting something different, and he is loving every second of it.” When Banner was with the Philadelphia Eagles, he was known for hardnosed contract negotiations and getting players to earn their money. Now it seems as though he is earning his. “He has contacted almost every team in the draft about a multitude of different scenarios,” said the league source. “He is playing them like a fiddle.” When Joe Banner and Michael Lombardi held their pre draft press conference one week ago, Banner admitted that he has talked to just about every team in the draft about possible trade scenarios. He indicated that as the draft moved closer, those talks would become more specific. Those “more specific” conversations seem to be the root of the rumors swirling around the team. While the league source did praise Banner for his manipulation the likes of which he had not seen in over twelve years being involved in the league, he also cautioned that it does not necessarily translate into a successful draft class. “You want to have all options open in this thing,” said the league source. “You want people on their toes. But in the end, if you don’t take advantage of the opportunities you have created, then it was all for not.” So while Joe Banner has dominated the pre-draft mystery competition, he still has to prove himself once the team is officially on the clock, no matter where and when that might be.
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There has been a cloud of secrecy over the Browns’ organization for the past few months. No one can quite get a read on which direction the new front office will go when it is their turn to select.
It's funny, you read that, then you see various media types quoting unnamed sources telling us who the Browns are going to take. LOL
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It seems like the pre-draft deception would be right up Banner's alley. But can he make the right pick?
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J/K
Maybe it's becuase were all hiding from the FBI..... 
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Banner is a business man who fancy's himself a football guru.....
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And we'll find out whether or not he can do both.
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Banner is a business man who fancy's himself a football guru.....
Kind of like a lot of people on this message board 
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Kind of like a lot of people on this message board
True... but, we've actually been doing it longer. 
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There has been a cloud of secrecy over the Browns’ organization for the past few months. No one can quite get a read on which direction the new front office will go when it is their turn to select.
It's funny, you read that, then you see various media types quoting unnamed sources telling us who the Browns are going to take. LOL
If you think about it, who would know how to manipulate the media better then Lombardi? Makes some sense.
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True... but, we've actually been doing it longer.
And we slept in a lot of Holiday Inns.. 
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No one can quite get a read on which direction the new front office will go when it is their turn to select.
Let's hope that's not due to the Browns themselves not knowing which direction to go.....
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It's funny, you read that, then you see various media types quoting unnamed sources telling us who the Browns are going to take. LOL
If you think about it, who would know how to manipulate the media better then Lombardi? Makes some sense.
that kinda makes sense, except I don't think he's smart enough.. it seems as if Banner might be..
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It's funny, you read that, then you see various media types quoting unnamed sources telling us who the Browns are going to take. LOL
If you think about it, who would know how to manipulate the media better then Lombardi? Makes some sense.
that kinda makes sense, except I don't think he's smart enough.. it seems as if Banner might be..
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j/c: I just love you guys.  What is a positive article turns into more slamming of our FO. Substitute Banner's name for Heckert and Holmgren--and go back a year--and you all would all be singing their praises about what geniuses they are. Pfffttt.......your agendas are hateful and w/out warrant. I, for one, am excited to have the "bean counter" here. The guy is extremely intelligent. He has been very successful. I think it is absolutely great that we're reading that he might trade up, he might trade down, he might acquire players via trade, he might draft this guy, that guy, etc. I have heard more stories about the Browns this year due to his genius of playing the game. But let's just bash the guy and make fun of the situation.
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Intelligent, no question; successful, open to debate. By 9pm tonight, we should have a better feel. Unless, of course, Lombardi pushes for a FG kicker...j/k
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What evidently, do you consider Banner's genius of playing the game?
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Vers, Why is it wrong to question the new FO? If there are no questioning voices...we all look like this guy. 
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jc Banner is in the drivers seat, I hope he can reach the pedals. 
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This is how I picture most of the board.
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Why is it wrong to question the new FO?
If there are no questioning voices...we all look like this guy.
Nothing wrong w/that. The issue is that it was a positive article. He did what he was supposed to do. He played everyone perfectly. He gets credit from NFL guys, but all you guys do is rip him, rip him, trash him, and trash him some more.
That's what's freaking wrong w/it.
There is nothing good about CONSTANTLY RIPPING anyone. There is a difference between questioning and ripping.
The Big Show took vacations during the SEASON and not a word from you guys. Banner does his job and manipulates the rest of the NFL, and you STILL criticize him.
Hypocritical BS!
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The Big Show took vacations during the SEASON and not a word from you guys. Banner does his job and manipulates the rest of the NFL, and you STILL criticize him.
I remember a vocal majority ripping on Holmgren. How can you even say that about here? Isn't that when you were active at Browns Chat?
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many of us criticized Hoilmgren et al for what we thought were bad decisions, we criticized Mangini as well, hell I criticised Blanton Collier, I will be critical of Banner as well if I deem it necessary.
So far except for the LOmbardi and Phil Dawson decisioins I have liked about everything
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Vers, considering Banner learned every thing he knows about football from Tom Heckert and Andy Reid(a Holmgren acolyte)it's interesting you have vowed everlasting faithfulness to Banner while showing complete and utter contempt for both Heckert and Holmgren.
We had an excellent draft last year. Compared to the 09 draft, all three Heckert drafts were GENIUS.
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Vers, considering Banner learned every thing he knows about football from Tom Heckert and Andy Reid(a Holmgren acolyte)it's interesting you have vowed everlasting faithfulness to Banner while showing complete and utter contempt for both Heckert and Holgren
can learn a lot from other peoples mistakes. 
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This scares the crap out of me. I love the coaching staff but our front office scares me to death.
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Well, if the process is as it has been described to us, then the coaching staff has, essentially, a veto over any pick.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
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Oh lord I hope you are rihgt but Lombardi has been invloved in 17 drafts over the years but he has screwed 16 of them up.
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my worst fears come to life. We finally gain some great coaches but then we get stuck with idiots running the draft...
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The coach had veto power over the pick.
Just saying.
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Don't be so sure 
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I am pretty damn sure.
Chud isn't your "usual" first time "offensive" coach. He had specific ideas as to what he wanted on offense. I think that he was completely behind this pick.
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Like I said bro don't be so sure
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I am fairly sure.
Chud seems to be a guy who knows that being able to stop the opposing QB is vital today. He spoke eloquently about how he has had the most trouble with 3-4 teams who send waves of pass rushers at the QB.
We are now one of those teams that can send waves of players after the opposing QB.
I like the pick, and like it more listening to Chris Fedor on the Plain Dealer's website.
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The Big Show took vacations during the SEASON and not a word from you guys. Banner does his job and manipulates the rest of the NFL, and you STILL criticize him.
I remember a vocal majority ripping on Holmgren. How can you even say that about here? Isn't that when you were active at Browns Chat?
Ahh, I see. It isn't about reality or facts, it is about agenda.
The difference is that I only ripped H and H AFTER they screwed up. You guys are ripping them on an article where AN NFL EXEC PROPS BANNER.
How the heck do you not see the difference?
I know how. You're full of crap w/your agenda.
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Love this article. Sounds like he is working hard. How can I not love that. If he takes a vacation in the middle of the season, I'll have questions but for now, the man is putting in work. The last guy everyone hated around here was Eric Mangini, I liked him.
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