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Makes sense.

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The Browns are never going to win if this kind of thing continues!

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Makes sense.


It makes sense in the assumption of being the alleged #2 TE a year or two away from his second contract, both for he and his agent.

I think the upside on Njoku is very high and would hate to see him leave. And maybe the value on that upside his higher than the return the Browns would get as a result of a trade, but who knows....maybe there is a team that likes the upside as well.

I would hope Stefanski would let him in on his fetish for TEs. Then again, even if he does, when you have OBJ, Hooper, and Landry demanding targets and snaps, his playing time could be diminished significantly, even in two TE formations.


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at what point do teams start making players honor their contracts. I mean yeah we got an upgrade in Hooper and I'm excited to see Bryant, but in this offense a freak like Njoku would probably excel. It isn't surprising any drama in offseason to have Drew's name associated.


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Good opportunity for Harrison Bryant now (assuming Njoku's traded). Possibly Stephen Carlson as well.

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Originally Posted By: leadtheway
at what point do teams start making players honor their contracts.


At what point des the league start honoring theirs? I mean they write up these huge, drawn out contracts and then put the clause that they only have to honor "the guaranteed" portion of it.


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24 years old and going into his 4th season in the NFL. That's nuts. I wish we would have seen a healthy Njoku with zero Freddie Kitchens influence when he came back. The kid started the season off strong before going down. He had a good 2018 campaign as well.



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Criminally underused last year when he was healthy. Freddie Fatboy is gone and still having a effect on this roster
Njoku could be a top 10 TE with a coaching staff
That knows how to use his talents

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If he could block I'd be worried about losing him. Since he can't/won't, he's our 2nd TE AND could very well end up #3 by the end of the year.


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Hey Sashi Brown fanclub that 2017 Draft isn't exactly looking like a promising draft is it ?

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Shhh... They're too busy ranting about Freddie right now. Don't disturb them.


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The Browns wanting to keep him is smart. We'll see what happens.


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I’d keep him ... he’ll be a valuable part considering the usage of TEs we will see


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Trade him for Ngakoue.

He wants out of Jax. He is only 25. Terrific young DE. We would have to sign him but he would be worth it.

Lock up Garrett. With Garrett and Ngakoue we would have great bookends.

He is way more valuable than Njoku.

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Originally Posted By: bonefish
He is way more valuable than Njoku.


Which is why trading him for Njoku makes no sense.

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This not a new idea. Njoku is young and was a first rounder.

Jax's are in a similar situation. He wants out. He has made it that clear.

It may take a a mid round pick as well. But Njoku would be a good add for them.

He is in a bad place with the Browns. He will not get many balls. He will lower his value staying.

We have the money. We are already paying Vernon $15m. And shopping for Clowney.

So why not?

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If I were Njoku I would probably be want to be traded too. He is going to, what amounts to, a contract year and he’s at best the fourth receiving option on the team.

As a team it makes sense to want to keep him because we are probably going to run tons of multiple tight end sets and Njoku is a great second tight end.

In the end the value we would get back for him doesn’t make a trade very plausible.

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Because Njoku and a mid round pick is not nearly enough to get Yannick Ngakoue. If that was the price he’d have already been traded by now.

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I saw the Cowboys are rumored to be interested .. but IMO it’s not even worth discussing for like a 5th round pick or whatever


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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He will ultimately be traded for fiddlesticks.

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Someone call the Texans and see if we can get a first rounder....

Honestly I hope we keep him...


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I've never been all that impressed with Njoku. It always seemed as though he dropped passes at an inopportune time, and could not/would not block. There are 2 other former 1st round picks looking for new teams, Jamaal Adams of the Jets and Ngakoue of the Jags. Couple that with supposed interest from the Cowboys, the Browns may be able to help the Defense more than expected. It seems as though the Cowboys have decent linebackers. Maybe a trade of Njoku for a linebacker that may not start .. Leighton Vander Esche, Sean Lee, Jaylon Smith, or Joe Thomas. Jason Whitten is gone, maybe Jerry Jones will part with a Linebacker to get Njoku.


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I'm in agreement with you. He gets hyped like a Winslow, but has produced more like a Quincy Morgan, nd I don't feel that's hyperbolic.

He has all the talent and upside you could want, minus blocking, but his hands just aren't what they should be.

We should definitely try to rob Jax.


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This is 2020. The role of the TE in NFL offenses
Has completely changed.
Yeah years ago when running the football was the
Bread and butter of a offense it was expected your TE had to be able block chip get to 2nd level and blow up a LB etc.
Now with the focus on the passing game your TE
Is expected to eat up and feast on the back 7.
These coaches are in for a harsh reality trying
To teach these TEs to be able to block at
The pro level when the barely had to do it
In college.

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This is 2020. The role of the TE in NFL offenses
Has completely changed.
Yeah years ago when running the football was the
Bread and butter of a offense it was expected your TE had to be able block chip get to 2nd level and blow up a LB etc.
Now with the focus on the passing game your TE
Is expected to eat up and feast on the back 7.
These coaches are in for a harsh reality trying
To teach these TEs to be able to block at
The pro level when the barely had to do it
In college.

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Originally Posted By: Halfback32
It seems as though the Cowboys have decent linebackers. Maybe a trade of Njoku for a linebacker that may not start .. Leighton Vander Esche, Sean Lee, Jaylon Smith, or Joe Thomas. Jason Whitten is gone, maybe Jerry Jones will part with a Linebacker to get Njoku.


I actually really like that idea


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I should've added to my post...

I don't hold it against him for seeking a trade. I've been frustrated with his play and that he's still all potential... Dude hasn't lived up to the hype.

But these guys gotta strike while iron is hot. This year is so so important for him, and he's got a LOT working against him playing on this team. There are no fewer than 5 guys on the offense that are going to get more touches than him. And while I think/hope things will be markedly better this year, last year still happened and there are big question marks with the offense and the guy throwing the ball.
I don't blame him. At some point it's no longer about avoiding competition and more about putting yourself in an environment where you're going to succeed.


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Too me, this is not a big deal, if he's unhappy and does not want to be here, then what is the point in keeping him? I would not take the chance that he sits out or doesn't play to full potential. Plus, the more pressing issue, is he's been hit or miss and is not a very good blocker. We have Hooper, I'm sure we could find another tE, in fact, didn't we draft one? So, if we can get a 4th for him, let him go and movie on.

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Originally Posted By: Jester
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It seems as though the Cowboys have decent linebackers. Maybe a trade of Njoku for a linebacker that may not start .. Leighton Vander Esche, Sean Lee, Jaylon Smith, or Joe Thomas. Jason Whitten is gone, maybe Jerry Jones will part with a Linebacker to get Njoku.


I actually really like that idea


That’s because it is completely unrealistic and would heavily favor us.

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Yep, nobody is giving up any really top notch player or prospect without getting something in return and Njoku just isn't enough. Hell, I don't think we could get a decent draft pick for him, 4th round pick would surprise me.

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Maybe we can bring Dorsey back in. He got a third for Duke after Baker trashed him. He got picks for guys like Kessler, Hogan, Coleman, etc. And he got Randall for Kizer.

Man, that dude sucked!

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Originally Posted By: Jester
Originally Posted By: Halfback32
It seems as though the Cowboys have decent linebackers. Maybe a trade of Njoku for a linebacker that may not start .. Leighton Vander Esche, Sean Lee, Jaylon Smith, or Joe Thomas. Jason Whitten is gone, maybe Jerry Jones will part with a Linebacker to get Njoku.


I actually really like that idea


That’s because it is completely unrealistic and would heavily favor us.


1st, Njoku for a backup Lb? We could make that balance out with a mid-round pick.



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Report: Cowboys have no interest in David Njoku
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ProFootball Talk on NBC SportsJuly 3, 2020, 7:05 PM EDT

Judging by what’s on social media, the Cowboys supposedly are interested in trading for safety Jamal Adams, signing free agent defensive end Jadeveon Clowney and now trading for tight end David Njoku. It’s unknown how anyone would expect the Cowboys to fit one under their salary cap much less all three.

Every time a big-name player hits free agency or demands a trade, the player often is linked to the Cowboys.

Speculation that the Cowboys might have interest in Njoku began after his new agent, Drew Rosenhaus, asked the Browns to trade Njoku.

But Mike Fisher of SI.com quotes two sources as saying the Cowboys have no interest in trading for Njoku.

It makes no sense that they would, especially given what the Browns would want in return.

The Cowboys signed Blake Jarwin to a four-year deal with a base value of $22 million, including guarantees of $9.25 million, in March to be their starting tight end. They let veteran Jason Witten leave in free agency for the Raiders after he was something of a progress-stopper for Jarwin last season.

The Cowboys signed blocking tight end Blake Bell, formerly a part-time starter with the Chiefs, and they still have Dalton Schultz on the roster.

The Cowboys have a far bigger to-do on their to-do list. They have 12 days to get Dak Prescott signed to a long-term deal. Otherwise the quarterback will play 2020 under the $31.4 million franchise tag.

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The bottom line is that his production has not matched his draft position. He need to look into a mirror and figure out why....


There will be no playoffs. Can’t play with who we have out there and compounding it with garbage playcalling and worse execution. We don’t have good skill players on offense period. Browns 20 - Bears 17.

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