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I didn't know the transaction report was brought to us by Fifth Third.

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I didn't know the transaction report was brought to us by Fifth Third.

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I'll be curious if something happened behind the scenes that is yet to come out publicly.

Otherwise, odd move and timing given the depleted line.

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Their motto was once 'The Curious Bank".

Curious kinda like this roster move.


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I'm not sure why this happened.. He played sunday and I didn't think he stunk.... Is this an off field issue?


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j/c:

I'm so impressed by all this roster turnover during the season.


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I think the guys we just activated from the practice squad out played him last week. He flashes now and then but his overall grade from PFF is very poor, his run defense grade is the worst of all our d-linemen by far.


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Seems like a strange move considering he was actually playing and playing solid.

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Maybe Brandin Bryant's play made Lawrence expendable?

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Originally Posted By: Milk Man
I'll be curious if something happened behind the scenes that is yet to come out publicly.

Otherwise, odd move and timing given the depleted line.


I'm wondering if he went out and did something stupid Sunday night while celebrating the victory.


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Originally Posted By: Milk Man
Maybe Brandin Bryant's play made Lawrence expendable?


That was my thought, outside of getting in trouble or something.


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Originally Posted By: dawg66
I think the guys we just activated from the practice squad out played him last week. He flashes now and then but his overall grade from PFF is very poor, his run defense grade is the worst of all our d-linemen by far.


Last week's game against the Dolphins:

Lawrence: 28 snaps, PFF grade = Below Average grade (45-54 range) 1 combined tackle

Bryant: 22 snaps, PFF Grade = Above Average grade (65-74 range) No stats registered

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But what did Lawrence do on the other 27 plays? was he out of position and give up a big run? did he miss a tackle? Bryant may not have made a tackle but he might have not given up a play either. PFF grades are based on every snap.


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Originally Posted By: dawg66
But what did Lawrence do on the other 27 plays? was he out of position and give up a big run? did he miss a tackle? Bryant may not have made a tackle but he might have not given up a play either. PFF grades are based on every snap.
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I understand this. I was merely providing the available data.

Hence, Lawrence's poor grading and Bryant's above average grading from PFF.

It's why I, too, suggested Bryant made Lawrence expendable.

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sorry, i thought you were questioning it


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If there is any way! on God's green earth, anybody could find .. "anything" that vaguely resembles "1" strategy this team has followed since ,(/the entire time), the time Depodesta was made / whatever,

then as Vinny says to Marissa Tomei's character in "My Cousin Vinny" ...
" I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THIS! "

haha, Just when you/we begin to think, Being a Browns fan is the least bit predictable ... POOF! another magic trick.

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We can all speculate but we are not there everyday.

We don't see meeting rooms and practice. We really do not know the other players just added.

You either trust Dorsey and the staff or you do not.

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Originally Posted By: dawg66
sorry, i thought you were questioning it
I am questioning it.

We are depleted at the DL positions, even if Lawrence had a bad game, hes a good backup and depth on the line to spell guys.

I think this would point to the fact that he probably had an off field issue.

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According to PFF he's had a bad season not just 1 game.


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Originally Posted By: dawg66
According to PFF he's had a bad season not just 1 game.

I'll be honest, he's had a few nice plays where he got his name called.. other than that, I don't know what he's done. If PFF says that on those other plays he wasn't doing his job, I'm not going to argue with them.. Evidently the staff saw the same thing.


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Bye Bye Devayoyo...

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That sucks. I felt he was our one good option to pull a Turkey Jones Sunday.

Just kidding... mostly... ehhh, not really.


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Kinda surprises me by name, but seeing his stats/evaluation it makes more sense


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According to PFF he's had a bad season not just 1 game.
Well, according to depth at the position, he was getting a meager salary and has been decent in spot plays.

Heres the problem with PFF, they don't take into account the actual ROLE of a player.

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Actually they do. They base it on the downs a player actually plays. It's why often times you'll see a player that doesn't play a lot have a high ranking.


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unless they are replacing with someone better, not sure why this move given our depth at the position. But with Larry coming back I guess one had to go


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Actually they do. They base it on the downs a player actually plays. It's why often times you'll see a player that doesn't play a lot have a high ranking.
So the guys who bashes analytics is here sticking up for...wait for it...analytics. Sorry bub, I had too!

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I actually gave you one of the reasons I don't often put a lot of stock into it. wink


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Here are PFF’s Week 12 defensive grades for the Browns:

DEFENSIVE LINE

Chad Thomas: 89.9.

Sheldon Richardson: 80.7.

Brandin Bryant: 67.9.

Porter Gustin: 63.3.

Chris Smith: 62.1.

Bryan Cox Jr.: 61.7.

Eli Ankou: 58.0.

Devaroe Lawrence: 50.7.


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Not a deal breaker, but I don't understand it. For a backup guy, you want them to show flashes... Lawrence has done that since day one. And then we cut him? smh.


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I remember being disappointed when they cut Trevon Coley and kept Devaroe Lawrence, but as the season went on I started to like him. I thought he might have a knack for the big play, or at least for being in the right place at the right time. But when he got his chance to shine against the Dolphins, he seemed to disappear. I don't think I heard his name even once during the broadcast this past Sunday, and that was not exactly a stellar O-line that Miami put out there.

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Did Coley get picked up?


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He's with the Colts now.

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Apparently, he just didn't flash enough. Guys elevated from the practice squad the week of the game outplayed him.

I'm surprised by it all, especially after all of the preseason "unblockable" hype, but he just didn't do enough.


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Coley has ........... 1 tackle on the season. One.

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Maybe he kicked FGs and missed them.

Nah, that doesn't get you released obviously.

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