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I know this will not sit well with a few posters.

I am considerably unexcited.

Who really cares, though? He'll be fired, along with the rest, in a year or 2.

I know nothing of the guy.

Ok, just did some reading.... he should not be allowed to evaluate talent nor have input on any trades.

He can give all the administrative input he desires.

Ryan Grigson is among the worst GMs of all time. The blame for Andrew Luck retiring early is mostly his doing. I would prefer he did not work for the team I root for. With that said, as long as he's not making any decisions this is probably meaningless. Grigson became a GM because he was good at being the director of player personnel for the Eagles, so he must've been competent at some point.

Especially when it comes to running backs!

It's also a pretty good sign that Grigson worked in this same capacity for the Seahawks the least two years and things didn't completely fall apart.

This is kinda how I feel. I was really optimistic with the last 10 coaches. Now I'm like yeah whatever. So maybe this will actually work out.

j/c:

Grigson? Seriously? This keeps getting better and better. Dude not only sucked as a GM, but was big-time trouble-maker that was despised by many in Indy.

Glad we are assembling a bunch of guys who will work well together.

This move screams of cronyism.

Haha wait is this the GM who traded a 1st round pick for Trent Richardson? Lol.

Anyways, I don’t know anything about what his role will be. If it’s reduced to his strength, then it’s okay I guess

He is here to show all these wet behind the ears guys the ropes.That way,when Haslum hangs them all to dry they will at least be familiar with the delivery mechanism.

Getting better every6 day/

Dorsey, Wolf, Highsmith, new coach...or...Depo, Stefanski, Berry, and Grigson.

My goodness this team is a complete joke.

For the first time I can ever remember I will have no excitement going into the season.

I am going to go back to what I did for threeo years. I will watch the first game then I will not watch again until they have 2 wins in a row.

I think I might just redzone it even when the Browns are on. Something I would usually never do.

Talents there bro ... if kev and woods are worth anything and bake isn’t the bum he appeared to be last year we got a shot ....

The Browns still have the talented roster that Dorsey and company assembled. They should win quite a few games this year. They should be okay the following year. But, I'm guessing that it gets real ugly again after that w/these bozos back in charge.

If everything falls into place AND Jimmuh isn't asking Scott Peters if he could take Stefanski in a brawl we might have a shot. Having Jimmuh is the ultimate biggest hurdle there is.

I think the Browns will have double digit losses this year.

The three most important people in any football organization are QB, coach, and owner.

Browns are weak in all spots.

Is it fair to say that about the coach ?

Noted for posterity. Your words may turn out to be prophetic...or come back to bite you in the butt. I am expecting the latter...

I agree on the thief but he is not the reason we lost last year .... that falls squarely on my boys shoulders ... I actually said the day he fired Chud he was the problem and the head of the snake was rotten ... other than backing into KJ due to the thief’s inability to make even a remotely decent hire he’s proven what i said to be true ..

I said it 3 years ago ... WORST OWNER IN THE HISTORY OF SPORTS so far ... and he still holds that title ...

This season will be decided by two things and none of them have to with the thief ...

1. Who is bake ... can he learn to read D’s ... he’ll be better than last year ... question is by how much ... i would guess he’s gonna have a much different off season then he did last year ... when i read he said “ i thought it would be easier than this” last year during the season ... that make some things make a lot more sense about his demise ...

Then there the reading D’s thing .... i don’t think u can “learn how to read D’s ... your brain can either process the info fast enough or u can’t ... is it bake isn’t capable of processing the info quick enough or was last year his learn by experience year ...

2. How much better can Kev be than Freddie ... he best be anyhow ...

I’m ASSuming these guys aren’t morons and won’t blow the roster up and will bring in some help ... we don’t need a ton ... good play calling on O and playing a D that fits our CB’s strengths will solve a bunch of problems right there ...

And this will be year 3 of the Isle of Optimism vs Fantasy Island ... right now its 1 - 1 and I HATE LOSING ... so theres that .... *L* ...

2018 draft :First round: Mayfield (1), Ward (4).

Second round: Corbett (33), Nick Chubb (35).

Third round: Chad Thomas (67).

Fourth round: Antonio Callaway (105).

Fifth round: Avery (150).

Sixth round: Damion Ratley (175), Simeon Thomas (188).


Dorsey headed into tradepalooza with 12 draft picks in 2018 and now has nine. He gave up a third, fourth and fifth-rounder this year and a seventh-rounder in 2019 and got back a third-rounder next year. The Browns and Packers also swapped their picks in the fourth and fifth rounds as part of the Kizer-Randall trade.

All told, the Browns traded

1. A 2018 fourth-rounder (No. 123) and a 2019 seventh-rounder for Landry.

2. The top pick in the third round, No. 65, to the Bills for Taylor.

3. Kizer to the Packers for Randall, as well as the teams swapping fourth- and fifth-round picks.

4. Danny Shelton and a 2018 fifth-round pick to the Patriots for a 2019 third-round pick.

The Browns got:

* Landry
* Taylor
* Randall
* The Patriots' 3rd round pick in 2019
* Fourth- and fifth-round picks from the Packers (which ones will be determined this week) in 2018

The Browns gave:

* A 2018 3rd round pick
* A 2018 4th round pick
* A 2018 5th round pick
* 2018 4th and 5th rounders
* A 2019 7th (for Landry)
QB DeShone Kizer
DT Danny Shelton

link


2018 free agency signings...
QB Tyrod Taylor: From Bills via trade
QB Drew Stanton: Two years
RB Carlos Hyde: Three years, $15 million
WR Jarvis Landry: From Dolphins via trade
WR Jeff Janis: Agrees to deal
TE: Darren Fells: Three years, $12 million
OT Chris Hubbard: Five years, $37.5 million
OT Donald Stephenson: One year, $2.5 million
DE Chris Smith: Three years, $12 million
ILB Tank Carder: Agrees to deal
CB E.J. Gaines: One year, $4 million
CB T.J. Carrie: Four years, $31 million
CB Terrance Mitchell: Three years, $10 million
S Damarious Randall: From Packers via trade

[url=cbssports.com/nfl/news/2018-nfl-free-agency-team-by-team-tracker-with-brandin-cooks-trade-and-every-move-so-far/]link[/url]

2019 draft picks:

Round 2 • Pick 14 (46) • CB Greedy Williams.
Round 3 • Pick 17 (80) • LB Sione Takitaki.
Round 4 • Pick 17 (119) • S Sheldrick Redwine.
Round 5 • Pick 17 (155) • LB Mack Wilson.
Round 5 • Pick 32 (170) • K Austin Seibert.
Round 6 • Pick 17 (189) • G Drew Forbes.
Round 7 • Pick 7 (221) • CB Donnie Lewis Jr.


2019 free agency signings :

Cleveland Browns' 2019 free-agent signings.
Sheldon Richardson, defensive tackle.
Demetrius Harris, tight end.
Kendall Lamm, offensive line.
Eric Kush, offensive lineman.

Transactions 2019
DECEMBER
12/30
Signed DE Trevon Young to reserve/futures list

12/30
Signed G Willie Wright to reserve/futures list

12/30
Signed WR J'Mon Moore to reserve/futures list

12/30
Signed G Malcolm Pridgeon to reserve/futures list

12/30
Signed LB Montrel Meander to reserve/futures list

12/30
Signed CB Donnie Lewis Jr. to reserve/futures list

12/30
Signed LB Jermaine Grace to reserve/futures list

12/30
Signed DT Brandin Bryant to reserve/futures list

12/24
Placed RB Dontrell Hilliard (knee) on injured reserve

12/24
Elevated G Colby Gossett from to active roster from practice squad

12/23
Signed DT Brandin Bryant to practice squad

12/21
Waived DT Brandin Bryant

12/21
Elevated DE Robert McCray from practice squad to active roster

12/19
Released QB Eric Dungey from practice squad

12/19
Signed LB Jermaine Grace to practice squad

12/07
Placed CB Robert Jackson on injured reserve (ankle)

12/07
Activated TE David Njoku from injured reserve

12/03
Released S A.J. Howard from practice squad

12/03
Signed DE Trevon Young to practice squad

12/03
Waived DE Chris Smith

12/03
Signed DT Justin Zimmer off Atlanta Falcons' practice squad

NOVEMBER
11/27
Signed DE Robert McCray to practice squad

11/26
Waived DT Devaroe Lawrence

11/26
DT Larry Ogunjobi reactivated to 53-man roster

11/25
Signed WR J'Mon Moore to practice squad

11/22
Elevated DE Porter Gustin from practice squad to active roster

11/22
Elevated DT Brandin Bryant from practice squad to active roster

11/20
Signed S A.J. Howard to practice squad

11/20
Elevated S J.T. Hassell from practice squad to active roster

11/20
Designated TE David Njoku to return from injured reserve

11/19
Placed S Morgan Burnett on injured reserve (Achilles)

11/15
Placed DE Myles Garrett on reserve/suspended by commissioner list

11/15
Placed DT Larry Ogunjobi on reserve/suspended by commissioner list

11/14
Waived WR Antonio Callaway

11/14
Activated OL Drew Forbes from injured reserve

11/13
Waived LB Malik Jefferson

11/13
Signed DE Bryan Cox

11/08
Signed C JC Tretter to a three-year extension

11/04
Signed DE Porter Gustin to practice squad

11/04
Waived S Jermaine Whitehead

11/01
Placed DT Daniel Ekuale (calf) on injured reserve

11/01
Elevated TE Stephen Carlson from practice squad to active roster

OCTOBER
10/30
Claimed LB Tae Davis via waivers from the New York Giants

10/28
Traded DE Genard Avery to Philadelphia Eagles in exchange for an undisclosed 2021 draft pick

10/24
Designated OL Drew Forbes for return from injured reserve

10/22
Released RB Elijah McGuire from practice squad

10/22
Signed LB Montrel Meander to practice squad

10/22
Signed DT Eli Ankou off Jacksonville Jaguars' practice squad

10/18
Waived FB Joe Kerridge from injured reserve

10/15
Traded C Austin Corbett to Los Angeles Rams in exchange for 2021 undisclosed draft pick

10/11
Placed WR Derrick Willies (knee) on practice squad/injured list

10/11
Signed QB Eric Dungey to practice squad

10/07
Activated WR Antonio Callaway to 53-man roster

10/04
Placed LB Willie Harvey (shoulder) on injured reserve

SEPTEMBER
09/21
Placed LB Christian Kirksey (chest) on injured reserve

09/21
Elevated LB Willie Harvey from practice squad to active roster

09/20
Placed TE David Njoku (wrist) on injured reserve

09/20
Claimed S Juston Burris via waivers from Oakland Raiders

09/20
Signed CB Donnie Lewis Jr. to practice squad

09/20
Elevated CB Robert Jackson from practice squad to active roster

09/19
Waived RB Elijah McGuire

09/18
Signed G Malcolm Pridgeon to practice squad

09/16
Placed QB Drew Stanton (knee) on injured reserve

09/16
Elevated RB Elijah McGuire from practice squad to active roster.

09/12
Released G Kyle Kalis from injured reserve

09/12
Released CB Donnie Lewis Jr. from practice squad

09/12
Signed G Colby Gossett to practice squad

09/10
Waived TE Rico Gathers

09/07
Released CB Phillip Gaines from injured reserve

09/07
Released T Paul Adams from practice squad

09/07
Signed CB Donnie Lewis Jr.

09/01
Signed S Tigie Sankoh to practice squad

09/01
Signed G Willie Wright to practice squad

09/01
Signed WR Derrick Willies to practice squad

09/01
Signed CB Robert Jackson to practice squad

09/01
Signed S J.T. Hassell to practice squad

09/01
Signed LB Willie Harvey to practice squad

09/01
Signed WR Shelton Gibson to practice squad

09/01
Signed TE Stephen Carlson to practice squad

09/01
Signed DT Brandin Bryant to practice squad

09/01
Placed G Drew Forbes (knee) on injured reserve

09/01
Waived S Juston Burris

09/01
Waived DT Trevon Coley

09/01
Claimed LB Malik Jefferson via waivers from the Cincinnati Bengals

09/01
Claimed WR KhaDarel Hodge via waivers from the Los Angeles Rams

09/01
Claimed TE Ricky Seals-Jones via waivers from the Arizona Cardinals

AUGUST
08/31
Placed TE Rico Gathers on the reserve/suspended by commissioner list

08/31
Placed RB Kareem Hunt on the reserve/suspended by commissioner list

08/31
Placed WR Antonio Callaway on the reserve/suspended by commissioner list

08/31
Placed CB Phillip Gaines (concussion) on injured reserve

08/31
Waived FB Joe Kerridge (concussion) with an injury designation

08/31
Waived G Kyle Kalis (concussion) with an injury designation

08/31
Waived DE Anthony Zettel

08/31
Waived G Willie Wright

08/31
Waived WR Derrick Willies

08/31
Waived LB Dedrick Young II

08/31
Waived T Travis Vornkahl

08/31
Waived LB Anthony Stubbs

08/31
Waived WR Damon Sheehy-Guiseppi

08/31
Waived T Brad Seaton

08/31
Waived S Tigie Sankoh

08/31
Waived DE Wyatt Ray

08/31
Waived DT Brian Price

08/31
Waived CB Lenzy Pipkins

08/31
Waived DE Jarrell Owens

08/31
Waived RB A.J. Ouellette

08/31
Waived WR Braxton Miller

08/31
Waived S Montrel Meander

08/31
Waived CB Donnie Lewis Jr.

08/31
Waived K Greg Joseph

08/31
Waived CB Robert Jackson

08/31
Waived WR Ishmael Hyman

08/31
Waived S J.T. Hassell

08/31
Waived LB Willie Harvey

08/31
Waived RB Trayone Gray

08/31
Waived T Brian Fineanganofo

08/31
Waived TE Seth DeValve

08/31
Waived TE Stephen Carlson

08/31
Waived DT Brandin Bryant

08/31
Waived WR Dorian Baker

08/31
Terminated the contract of G Bryan Witzmann

08/31
Terminated the contract of DT Carl Davis

08/31
Terminated the contract of P Britton Colquitt

08/31
Terminated the contract of LB Ray-Ray Armstrong

08/31
Acquired G Justin McCray and 2020 undisclosed draft pick from Green Bay Packers in exchange for 2020 undisclosed draft pick

08/31
Acquired WR Taywan Taylor from Tennessee Titans in exchange for 2020 undisclosed draft pick

08/30
Traded QB David Blough and 2022 undisclosed pick to Detroit Lions in exchange for 2022 undisclosed pick

08/29
Acquired G Wyatt Teller and a 2021 7th-round pick from Buffalo Bills in exchange for a 2020 5th-round pick and a 2020 6th-round pick

08/27
Waived WR Jaelen Strong

08/26
Waived CB Jhavonte Dean

08/21
Placed WR D.J. Montgomery on the reserve/injured list (hamstring)

08/21
Claimed S Montrel Meander via waivers from New York Jets

08/21
Waived TE Mik'Quan Deane (non-football illness)

08/21
Signed WR Braxton Miller

08/11
Waived TE Orson Charles

08/11
Signed TE Rico Gathers

08/10
Signed FB Joe Kerridge

08/09
Waived C John Yarbrough

08/09
Waived DT Tracy Sprinkle

08/09
Signed T Travis Vornkahl

08/09
Signed DT Brandin Bryant

08/08
Traded RB Duke Johnson Jr. to Houston Texans for 2020 conditional draft pick

08/03
Waived CB Jermaine Ponder

08/03
Signed DT Tracy Sprinkle

08/02
Waived WR Blake Jackson with an injury designation (knee)

08/02
Signed TE Mik'Quan Deane

08/02
Signed K Phil Dawson and added him to reserve/retired list

JULY
07/28
Waived C Lo Falemaka with injury designation (shoulder)

07/28
Signed C John Yarbrough

07/27
Waived T Ka'John Armstrong

07/27
Signed RB A.J. Ouellette

07/24
Placed RB Trayone Gray on active/non-football injury list

07/24
Placed RB Kareem Hunt on active/non-football injury list

07/22
Signed C Lo Falemaka

JUNE
06/06
Signed T Ka'John Armstrong

06/05
Waived T Desmond Harrison

MAY
05/30
Waived C Trevon Tate

05/24
Signed LB Sione Takitaki

05/21
Signed CB Greedy Williams

05/16
Waived RB L.J. Scott

05/16
Signed RB D'Ernest Johnson

05/13
Waived RB Devante Mays

05/13
Signed RB L.J. Scott

05/06
Waived LB Xavier Woodson-Luster

05/06
Waived CB Ashton Lampkin

05/06
Waived RB Darrin Hall

05/06
Signed LB Willie Harvey

05/06
Signed RB Trayone Gray

05/06
Signed CB Jhavonte Dean

05/03
Signed LB Mack Wilson

05/03
Signed K Austin Seibert

05/03
Signed LB Dedrick Young II

05/03
Signed C Willie Wright

05/03
Signed C Trevon Tate

05/03
Signed LB Anthony Stubbs

05/03
Signed DE Wyatt Ray

05/03
Signed CB Jermaine Ponder

05/03
Signed DE Jarrell Owens

05/03
Signed WR D.J. Montgomery

05/03
Signed S J.T. Hassell

05/03
Signed RB Darrin Hall

05/03
Signed P Jamie Gillan

05/03
Signed T Brian Fineanganofo

05/03
Signed TE Stephen Carlson

05/03
Signed QB David Blough

05/03
Signed WR Dorian Baker

05/03
Waived LB D'Juan Hines

05/03
Waived DE Lenny Jones (injury settlement)

05/02
Signed CB Donnie Lewis Jr.

05/02
Signed T Drew Forbes

05/02
Signed S Sheldrick Redwine

05/01
Waived G David Bright

APRIL
04/29
Waived C Kyle Friend

04/27
Drafted CB Donnie Lewis Jr. 221st overall

04/27
Drafted T Drew Forbes 189th overall

04/27
Drafted K Austin Seibert 170th overall

04/27
Drafted LB Mack Wilson 155th overall

04/27
Drafted S Sheldrick Redwine 119th overall

04/26
Drafted LB Sione Takitaki 80th overall

04/26
Drafted CB Greedy Williams 46th overall

04/26
Traded 2019 second (49) and fifth round (144) picks to Indianapolis Colts for 2019 second (46) round pick.

04/25
Signed WR Ishmael Hyman

04/05
Signed WR Damon Sheehy-Guiseppi

04/05
Signed QB Garrett Gilbert

04/05
Signed DB Morgan Burnett

04/03
Signed TE/FB Orson Charles

04/01
Acquired DB Eric Murray from Kansas City Chiefs in exchange for DL Emmanuel Ogbah

04/01
Waived DB Howard Wilson

04/01
Waived WR Ricardo Louis

04/01
Waived DB Derrick Kindred

04/01
Signed DB Jermaine Whitehead

04/01
Signed WR Rashard Higgins

04/01
Signed DL Trevon Coley

04/01
Signed DB Juston Burris

MARCH
03/19
Re-signed DB Phillip Gaines

03/15
Signed OL Kendall Lamm

03/14
Signed OL Eric Kush

03/14
Signed LB Adarius Taylor

03/14
Signed TE Demetrius Harris

03/14
Signed DL Sheldon Richardson

03/13
Re-signed LB Ray-Ray Armstrong

03/13
Acquired WR Odell Beckham Jr. and DL Olivier Vernon from the New York Giants in exchange for OL Kevin Zeitler, DB Jabrill Peppers, 2019 first-round pick and a third-round pick.

03/12
Re-signed DL Carl Davis

03/11
Terminated contract of TE Darren Fells

03/06
Terminated contract of LB Jamie Collins Sr.

FEBRUARY
02/25
Waived WR Daniel Williams

02/25
Re-signed OL Greg Robinson

02/20
Signed WR Jaelen Strong

02/11
Signed RB Kareem Hunt

02/04
Waived LB Tanner Vallejo

JANUARY
01/07
Signed OL David Bright to reserve/futures list

01/07
Signed DB Ashton Lampkin to reserve/futures list

01/02
Signed WR Daniel Williams to reserve/futures list

01/02
Signed DB Tigie Sankoh to reserve/futures list

01/02
Signed OL Brad Seaton to reserve/futures list

01/02
Signed DB Lenzy Pipkins to reserve/futures list

01/02
Signed RB Devante Mays to reserve/futures list

01/02
Signed DL Devaroe Lawrence to reserve/futures list

01/02
Signed DB Robert Jackson to reserve/futures list

01/02
Signed OL Kyle Friend to reserve/futures list

01/02



Then the Hiring of FK has the writing on the wall, FK saying " John.it's not the talent you gave me to coach... It's just I can't coach the talent you gave me " " Whoopty Hell "

Hey bro.........I hope I can communicate this adequately. I am not boasting or being confrontational. I just want to remind you of something in order to make my point moving forward.

Last year, I made a thread about the 3 Biggest Concerns or something like that. My top 3 were:

1. How Baker would play now that other teams had video on him.

2. How well Freddie would do as a HC considering he had never been a HC at any level before and had limited experience even as a coordinator.

3. Team chemistry considering we had several new players, strong-willed players, a ton of players who had experienced an unprecedented amount of losing, and very few players who experienced winning on the big stage.


What's changed this year?

I have some thoughts, but would love to hear your thoughts, first.

What exactly are you trying to say by listing all of those transactions?

U want me to do it real quick now (don’t have much time ... ) ... or u want me to answer Sunday when i have some time ...

Your call ...

And its me ... get as confrontational as you’d like ...

I made that post to you in less than 2 minutes. Probably less than a minute. Give it whirl, please. You can always amend it.

Not trying to say anything...Trying to put out some information about a statement you made and was hoping it would be useful for the up coming season.


you said ........



This will be something we can monitor to what Dorsey did to what the new guys do...just info to look at ...wth

U want me to answer your 3 bullet points in regards to what’s change from last year ... or u want me to just tell u what’s different from last year?

Okay. Thanks.

I was confused by looking at that list and then your final comment. Thanks for clarifying.

Not asking you--or anyone--to agree, but outside of DawgTalkers and other Brown's info sources...............almost every outside source who talks about football [including current and former players, coaches, execs, etc.....and other media members] were almost unanimous in saying the Browns had the league's worst roster when the Analytics guys were in charge. That is NOT debatable.

Last year, most of those same folks said the Browns had as good of talent as any team in the league and lofty expectations were heaped upon them. I don't think that is debatable, either.

I think the three points I just listed in a reply to Diam that I said way back BEFORE the season were legit.

I think they are still legit moving forward.

Additionally, I think we regressed in the FO. We replaced proven talent evaluators w/proven failures.

Well, I was thinking of what's changed from last year.

However, if you don't think those 3 points were valid.....you can answer anyway you like. LOL

Baker will be on his 4th ... yes, 4th head coach entering his 3rd year in the NFL.

The Jimma Effect in full effect.

The final statement was mostly about Dorsey putting the talent there but the coaching wasn't there to compliment the talent.

That's all in the past..I also hope to see improvement.. Posting that list will kind of give all sides a look at how the newer FO is thinking on player evaluations compared to the the previous.

Maybe I'm using an analytical view or approach... comparing the past FO's decisions to the presents FO's decisions based on the facts that some people were here then not then here again could be a interesting way to watch how this all plays out.

I think your points were valid .... to respond what’s different this year ...

1. Teams having tape on Bake ... that was part of the problem no doubt ... especially seeing as how he was a one read about in 18 ... that’s make it much easier to defend ...

I think that was one factor ...

Sorry bro ... i literally gotta run and wanna give u a good response ... If i can get to it til tomorrow i will ...

Well, considering that most of the current FO was here BEFORE Dorsey.............I think it is okay to look at your Dorsey list and compare it to the Analytical List from the previous regime.

LOL man...........I'm sorry and I don't want to fight w/anyone. But, are y'all kidding me? Comparing the rosters of the Analytics dudes vs Dorsey's is not even close. We had the worst roster in the entire NFL under the direction of the Analytics crew to one of the very best in the entire league under Dorsey.

People might yell and scream and resort to name-calling and insults, but the rosters of two regimes are not even close.

No your right.. I'm not comparing anything right now.I'm just trying to give us all a look at what was then to what might be ahead...

Which would be useful information to ones that don't know...Crap am I being analytical ? Your a Teacher..did you use that approach ?

It's all good. You were providing information and it is appreciated.

I love analytics. I just think they are a tool and not the end-all. I also think you need the right guys using them. Our analytical guys have sucked ass. That doesn't mean that analytics are bad. It just means we need guys who are better at it.

I do want to add this.

Let's say you are evaluating players using analytics. You use the data to determine that a LBer has great speed, good hips, quick feet, shed-and-shield gifts, good downhill closing speed, a fast 40 time, etc, etc..........And you don't pay enough attention to the video to see that while he gets to the hole fast, that it is often the wrong hole. You don't see that he often overruns plays. You don't see that while he is fast, he takes terrible angles to ball carriers and receivers. They don't mention that he might not have heart when things go bad. They might not indicate that he takes plays off. Etc, etc.

It's a marriage.......bro. Don't let folks fool you that one approach is full-proof. Analytics are useful. However, they are a tool. Just like watching video is a tool. The best guys are the ones that can combine both.

In my opinion, nothing beats film study. I remember scouting a LBer who eventually went to Ohio State when I worked for the collegiate service and I noticed how he was running towards the hole where the ball carrier was going at the freaking snap. That dude studied film. That is HUGE! I think analytics are a tool that helps you differentiate between comparable players.

This just feels like a "I'm giving you a job because we are friends" move AKA "Good Ole Boy Club" move.

Not a fan of these types of hires. Hopefully he stays as consultant like Scot McG and then is not added to the staff post-draft.

At least Scott was good.

He loved Baker more than Dorsey and people are questioning Baker's value, so I guess "good" is in the eye of the beholder.

I don't know what Scot did outside of publicly saying he liked Baker. My thought at the time was Dorsey added him primarily for another Pro-Mayfield voice in the room. I was fine with that and fine with Baker.