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How'd you find out before they announced it?

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Athletic .. I’d have rather had Winfield (who went right after) because I’ve read his tackling isnt great

But he’s played good competition


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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What position does he play?


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What position does he play?


Safety


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Ah cool.

Great pick. We def needed a safety and he's one of the best rated in college this year.

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Ah cool.

Great pick. We def needed a safety and he's one of the best rated in college this year.


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2 Great Picks so far smile


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Denver doubles down on WR.


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Pretty excited about the first two picks so far.


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Scouts say Delpit is special in coverage as a true free safety.


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I do like picking guys from top tier programs


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Would have preferred Winfield Jr, but hey, this kid doesn't look bad either. We got our two best positions of need.

Also found it kind of funny that the Giants got first pick of Tackle and Saftey. The Browns got the next choice of Tackle and Safety, and then the Buccs got the leftovers for both spots. Will be interesting to see who made out the best.

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overall I like the pick... don't know a ton about him but huge need and he has seen great competition... anyone have better reports on this guy?


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I just worry about when I hear: Has struggled to tackle


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Solid pick and a real area of need.

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Would have preferred Winfield Jr, but hey, this kid doesn't look bad either. We got our two best positions of need.

Also found it kind of funny that the Giants got first pick of Tackle and Saftey. The Browns got the next choice of Tackle and Safety, and then the Buccs got the leftovers for both spots. Will be interesting to see who made out the best.


I'm going to guess Xavier McKinney was the preferred choice but once he went off the board, they figured a few other safeties were ranked around the same. So, move back a few spots, pick up a late rounder, and then go with the best available FS.

And obviously, since no S was drafted from 41-43, they took their highest ranked safety.


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From the film, I liked Delpit a lot more than McKinney... really happy with the pick.


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Here is what PFF said about him. I posted this earlier on the FS thread.

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Even after a rough junior season, LSU safety Grant Delpit is a good analytical prospect

By Eric Eager
Mar 24, 2020



[Editor's Note: PFF's new college-to-pro projection system is powered by AWS machine learning capabilities.]

After a sophomore season in which he earned an 84.4 overall grade in 847 snaps, Delpit regressed a bit his junior year to 68.7, missing 20 tackles and allowing 14 of 22 passes into his coverage to be completed. Injuries were a big reason for this decline, as an undisclosed preseason injury lingered throughout the season.

Using our college-to-pro system, we will look at Delpit’s projected performance during his rookie contract. This projection uses his play-by-play data from college, adjusts it for play- and opponent-level context and weighs more-recent data more than past data.

How Delpit Projects as a Coverage Player

Coverage is the most important thing a safety does, and Delpit projects well there. Only Geno Stone of Iowa projects to have a bigger “playmaker rate” — rate of passes broken up and interceptions per primary coverage snap — than Delpit does in the context-free environment:

Grant Delpit’s projected completion percentage allowed and playmaker rate during the first five years of his NFL career in the context-free environment.

No safety plays in a context-free environment, though, as some guys are predominantly slot guys, some play deep and others play in the box. Delpit split time almost equally a season ago between deep safety (385 snaps) and slot cornerback (316). If we give him said split as a coverage player, his projections get even better (and more narrow, since the uncertainty of “what will he do?” largely goes away):

Grant Delpit’s projected completion percentage allowed and playmaker rate during the first five years of his NFL career in an environment where 20 percent of his coverage snaps are in the box, 40 percent are in the slot and 40 percent are deep. Median rates for free safeties in the NFL are represented by the dotted lines.

Of course, Delpit’s role will be largely determined by who drafts him, and George Chahrouri and I went with Tampa Bay in Round 1 in our mock draft. If Delpit were deployed more like Jamal Adams was in Todd Bowles’ scheme in New York in 2018, which was more of a 55% box, 15% slot, 30% deep split, his projected coverage data takes a little bit of a hit, but still lands him as one of the most efficient playmakers in his class:

Grant Delpit’s projected completion percentage allowed and playmaker rate during the first five years of his NFL career in an environment where 55 percent of his coverage snaps are in the box, 15 percent are in the slot and 30 percent are deep.

Delpit's projections in coverage come with some impressive statistical comps: Earl Thomas, Tony Jefferson, Ricardo Allen, Montae Nicholson and Tavon Wilson.

How Delpit Projects as a Pass Rusher

Over the past two seasons, Delpit has been a good pass rusher, taking part in six sacks and generating 18 total pressures. He was better in 2018 than 2019, but the talent to do some damage in that area of the game is there.

Grant Delpit’s projected pressure and sack rate during the first five years of his NFL career in the context-free environment.

While this pressure rate is not as high as some of his contemporaries (Kyle Dugger, Antoine Winfield Jr., Xavier McKinney), it increases with different usages and is certainly passable at the position.

How Delpit Projects as a Run Defender

Run defense is one of those things that teams probably overvalue in safeties, but it exemplifies traits that are important to have in the passing game as well (being able to make tackles short of the line the gain). In this regard, Delpit is one of the best in his class in terms of stop rate (rate of tackles that elicit an unsuccessful play by the offense) and positively graded play rate in the run game:

Grant Delpit’s projected stop and positively graded play rate in the running game during the first five years of his NFL career in an environment where he plays 20 percent of his snaps in the box, 40 percent in the slot and 40 percent deep.

Despite some regression during his junior year, Delpit is a great pro prospect at an important position. Due to recency bias, we’ve seen his stock decline over the past year, meaning that whoever selects him come April will get a value — especially for a ready-made defense in need of a playmaker.

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A very good pick in a position of need. A true FS, exactly what we needed. Mel Kiper said he struggled a bit this past season because of a high ankle sprain but still played well.

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Would have picked Winfield.


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Delpit had a high ankle sprain for good portion of the 2019 season which may have led to this notion of poor tackler. 2018 was a much better year for him.

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These are two very solid picks of guys we can plug to start in areas of need. You can quibble, but they are good picks.

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Thanks for read, he might have been saving himself for NFL.....but he's ours now....LOVE the pick...best college program for last few years....GO Browns!!!!


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Love the pick...S was a huge need.

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Love this pick. Thom Darden.

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Safety was surely a huge need for us


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Berry drop to 44 from 41 and got a fifth.

Then got Delpit. He had a high ankle sprain in 2019. His 2018 season projected him as a first rounder.

Sounds good.

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I bet we had Delpit and Winfield pretty close


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Originally Posted By: KashDawg
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It's okay. Kinda hard to talk on here because each year we read how great every pick is.

Not sure he is as great as folks are saying, but I don't dislike the pick. I would say it seems to be a decent pick.

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Wow!!! That video was simply awesome! That is the type of highlights you usually watch for 1st round picks.


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It's okay. Kinda hard to talk on here because each year we read how great every pick is.

Not sure he is as great as folks are saying, but I don't dislike the pick. I would say it seems to be a decent pick.


Thats fair..I guess. I'm not like the others bro. I evaluate based on possibility. You are one of my favorite evaluators of players so just value your opinion.

It takes 3 years to really gauge how well the pick actually was, but I like to have hope lol.




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Originally Posted By: Day of the Dawg
Wow!!! That video was simply awesome! That is the type of highlights you usually watch for 1st round picks.


If Delpit left after last season he probably would have been a first round pick.

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I know you're not. But, others get mad if you don't drool over a guy.

I do think it is a solid pick. No complaints. I just don't think he is as dominant as some are proclaiming.

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We have picked 2 1st rounders Period!!!


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Actually, I think we have picked one first round pick and one second round pick. Anything else is an opinion most likely based on homerism or the opposite.

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