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Browns held virtual meeting with Northwestern CB Greg Newsome


Jeff Risdon
February 27, 2021 8:05 am
Normally at this time of year, the Cleveland Browns would be with all other NFL teams at the annual scouting combine in Indianapolis. The combine isn’t happening this year due to the COVID-19 pandemic, but one key part of the combine experience for teams is still happening virtually.

Player meetings and team interviews with the draft prospects are going on. One of the players the Browns are confirmed to have met with recently is a promising and interesting one, Northwestern cornerback Greg Newsome II.

Newsome is generally projected between No. 25 and No. 50 overall, a range that includes the Browns’ first pick at No. 26 overall. His ability to play the ball in the air and use his length and football savvy have made Newsome a hot prospect and one it’s encouraging to hear the Browns have met with already.


https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2021/02/...spect-meetings/


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Given all the uncertainty around the CB position, this makes sense to me. Not reading anything into it concerning Greedy's return. Our lack of depth at that position is glaring. Obviously, a lot depends on free agency.

I've seen a few mocks with Newsome appearing in round 1.

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Thanks for the post.

As far as corners, I don't know anything about the guy, but as far as not having enough capable players at a position, corner is about as close as it gets given the NFL trend to chuck the ball all over the field with wide open offensive sets.

Taking a corner at #1 could rarely be called a poor choice.

With meeting being held remotely, I was concerned we wouldn't be getting much of this information, and we probably won't since reporters won't be on site to see which teams are talking to which players, or which players are entering which teams interview room.

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Originally Posted By: Ballpeen


Taking a corner at #1 could rarely be called a poor choice.


Unless his name is Justin Gilbert poke


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You would think good scouting would have revealed who Gilbert really was?

What a waste. One thing that turns me off the most are prospects that will not work. And then blame coaches.


Corner in the NFL is a must position for quality and quantity. A truism "you can not have enough good corners."

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You would think good scouting would have revealed who Gilbert really was?

What a waste. One thing that turns me off the most are prospects that will not work. And then blame coaches.


Corner in the NFL is a must position for quality and quantity. A truism "you can not have enough good corners."


I think coaches often overestimate their ability to get the most out of players.

I also wonder if works hard is overlooked when they're telling the GM the attributes they need at a certain position in their scheme.

Gilbert didn't have a doesn't work hard body. I think his problem was more focus. It can be hard to predict how suddenly becoming a millionaire will effect a young adult.


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Originally Posted By: Ballpeen


Taking a corner at #1 could rarely be called a poor choice.


Unless his name is Justin Gilbert poke


Well, we already have a leg up in this situation because we're actually interviewing this guy.


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He's generally considered a 2nd round pick. At 59, sure.


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Originally Posted By: Jester
Originally Posted By: Ballpeen


Taking a corner at #1 could rarely be called a poor choice.


Unless his name is Justin Gilbert poke



I think you know what I was talking about...talking about the position choice and not so much about individual players.

The pick of Gilbert the player sucked. Selecting a corner didn't.


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I understood what you meant. I was just playing around bit, thus the poke emoji.
Feels good to finally be able to enjoy a little humor from our past futilities.


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agreed... even with a health greedy our DBs need upgrading...


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. misread tweet.

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His pro day jumped him into the late first round according to some of the "Experts"

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I ran a 4.2 at my pro day last week.


But that was in an 8 yard dash

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Originally Posted By: WSU Willie
Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
I ran a 4.2 at my pro day last week.


But that was in an 8 yard dash



Not sure how far it is from my kitchen to the bathroom. I did have to zig zag a bit to get there.


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Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
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I ran a 4.2 at my pro day last week.


But that was in an 8 yard dash



Not sure how far it is from my kitchen to the bathroom. I did have to zig zag a bit to get there.


So...your shuttle drill time is even better then? Better still when you really have to P...I'd imagine.

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Taking a Corner in the First Has Become Stupid.

The NFL Rules don't support it!

It has become as dumb as taking a kicker in the top 3 rounds.

Corners don't even lead your team in Int's anymore safeties do.

Corners are no longer allowed to effect games outcomes very much (By NFL PI rules) and in a whole career will almost be assured of never winning a game for you.

( Wish to spend a first round pick on a player who will never win a game for a team)
^ Say that out loud, realize this is 2020, not 1982 and

Hope the Browns don't again make a wrong choice of a first round corner.

The Win loss records of the Browns from 1999-2020, tend to support that it's stupid to take a corner in the first.
They did it a bunch and
They had 12 loss seasons a bunch.

Plus, in the past, since whenever Trey Williams, Kwan Willliams was on the team,
The Browns have had better play and more production from
Free agent pick ups, average also rans, and guys who weren't supposed to be any good,

when it comes to making plays at Cornerback and DB in general,
than they have had from draft picks, especially first round ones.

It's about the most proven stupidest thing the team can do, short of Eric Mangini trading most draft pics for jets' backups.

Don't draft a corner in the first,
Kevin Johnson, and Terrence Mitchell were your most healthy wise, available corners in 2020, (I think),
maybe what's his name, who played terrible.


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Browns have met with UCLA RB/WR Demetric Felton

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The Cleveland Browns have shown some interest in one of the most versatile players in the 2021 NFL draft. Per Justin Melo of The Draft Network, the Browns recently held a virtual meeting with UCLA running back/wide receiver Demetric Felton.

The 5-9, 190-pound Felton did a little of everything for the Bruins in his college career. He racked up 132 carries, 22 receptions and eight kickoff returns in six games in 2020 after notching 86 carries and 55 receptions in 2019. Felton can line up as a running back, a slot receiver or even split wide.

Felton generally projects in the fourth/fifth round as a receiver prospect who can also double as a perimeter-oriented RB. He’s got electric footwork and good balance through contact. Felton worked out at receiver during January’s Senior Bowl.

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Originally Posted By: THROW LONG
Taking a Corner in the First Has Become Stupid.

The NFL Rules don't support it!

It has become as dumb as taking a kicker in the top 3 rounds.

Corners don't even lead your team in Int's anymore safeties do.

Corners are no longer allowed to effect games outcomes very much (By NFL PI rules) and in a whole career will almost be assured of never winning a game for you.

( Wish to spend a first round pick on a player who will never win a game for a team)
^ Say that out loud, realize this is 2020, not 1982 and

Hope the Browns don't again make a wrong choice of a first round corner.

The Win loss records of the Browns from 1999-2020, tend to support that it's stupid to take a corner in the first.
They did it a bunch and
They had 12 loss seasons a bunch.

Plus, in the past, since whenever Trey Williams, Kwan Willliams was on the team,
The Browns have had better play and more production from
Free agent pick ups, average also rans, and guys who weren't supposed to be any good,

when it comes to making plays at Cornerback and DB in general,
than they have had from draft picks, especially first round ones.

It's about the most proven stupidest thing the team can do, short of Eric Mangini trading most draft pics for jets' backups.

Don't draft a corner in the first,
Kevin Johnson, and Terrence Mitchell were your most healthy wise, available corners in 2020, (I think),
maybe what's his name, who played terrible.


While, at first blush, you make a fairly compelling argument, I completely disagree. The reason why it appears the way you say is because getting just ONE in the first does you little good, especially in today's NFL. That's because you need at least THREE that are that good or you are going to get eaten up by any QB that can read a defense. Now, I won't say you need three first round CB's, but you need three with the talent level that you'd expect from a first round pick.... first three rounds for certain.

As long as teams keep putting first round WR's on the field, you will need first round quality CB's.


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I agree. Even though rules do hamper the ability of corners, that makes in all the more imperative the ones you do line up are as as good as possible.

As long as other teams select corners in round 1, you best do the same fairly often.


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While, at first blush, you make a fairly compelling argument, I completely disagree. The reason why it appears the way you say is because getting just ONE in the first does you little good, especially in today's NFL. That's because you need at least THREE that are that good or you are going to get eaten up by any QB that can read a defense. Now, I won't say you need three first round CB's, but you need three with the talent level that you'd expect from a first round pick.... first three rounds for certain.

As long as teams keep putting first round WR's on the field, you will need first round quality CB's.


I agree with all of what you said except for the compelling argument. We picked 3 CBs in the first round in the 21 years referred to (2 of them had pro bowl/all-pro seasons with the Browns). We had 3 DTs, 3 OL and 5 QBs in that same period. By the same argument, we should stop drafting those positions in the first round too (hopefully we don't need to draft a QB there in a long, long time).

The last 5 years Safeties have a slight lead in the top 10 (plus ties) in INT (32-29), though last 2 years, CB has a lead (15-10), so there's a little argument there 2017-2018.

As you stated, "I won't say you need three first round CB's, but you need three with the talent level that you'd expect from a first round pick.... first three rounds for certain.".

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Didn't somebody on this board prove a couple years ago, ...

that the Browns' were drafting, anyone in a position group, that,

had the top numbers in some metric, (I want to say long jumping) but it was something different,

maybe, Kinetic, explosive, muscle energy drill, and if anyone knows/ remembers,

It'd be cool to check a list of who is leading that measurement this time around, and see how many of those end up on the Browns.


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Unfortunately the site that had the SPARQ (Speed, Power, Agility, Reaction and Quickness) numbers and converted them to NFL comparison percentiles isn't around any more.

Edit: used to be 3sigmaathlete.com but the domain is expired

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Originally Posted By: THROW LONG
Didn't somebody on this board prove a couple years ago, ...

that the Browns' were drafting, anyone in a position group, that,

had the top numbers in some metric, (I want to say long jumping) but it was something different,

maybe, Kinetic, explosive, muscle energy drill, and if anyone knows/ remembers,

It'd be cool to check a list of who is leading that measurement this time around, and see how many of those end up on the Browns.



It was both of the jumps. It shows explosion.

I don't think it was quite so cut and dry that is all we were looking for


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The way it goes "THROW" is in the first round its all about individual talent if there is a great talent that is a CB then you get him. The harder the rules get the more important actually it is to go get yourself a talented rookie it is not a waste of a pick. Like many picks some become HOF talent and some do become busts. But a good CB is very vital to a defense. Especially if you have a DL like the which we would like to build. Where 4 can go after the QB and provide extensive pressure, but you can also man up and then go all out on the blitz which is certain failure for the QB unless they make a quick decision and if you got studs at the CB they are there to defend that quick decision. TURNOVERS by our defense and stops 3 or 7 and outs gives our POTENT offense the ball and quite frankly the more of that we have the more we will win.

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No question I would love to get Horn.

However, in light of the injury to Farley. No way Horn makes it to 26.

IMO the Browns will go corner or big man on defense.

I do not believe they will draft a linebacker.

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So we are interviewing edge guys and corners...

to the surprise of no one.


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Caleb Farley draft stock slipping following microdiscectomy?

Following the news of his upcoming microdiscectomy procedure, what is the latest Tony Pauline is hearing on Caleb Farley’s draft stock?

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/caleb-farley-draft-stock-slipping-following-microdiscectomy/

What is microdiscectomy?

Spinal surgery once meant large incisions, long recovery periods, and painful rehab. Fortunately, surgical advances like the microdiscectomy procedure have improved the process.

Microdiscectomy, also sometimes called microdecompression or microdiskectomy, is a minimally invasive surgical procedure performed on patients with a herniated lumbar disc.

During this surgery, a surgeon will remove portions of the herniated disc to relieve pressure on the spinal nerve column.

Recovery time

The recovery time is shorter than other, more invasive procedures. Most people can expect to leave the hospital that same day, or within 24 hours.

You’ll likely meet with a physical therapist and occupational therapist before leaving the hospital. These therapists will give you instructions on how to reduce the bending, lifting, and twisting you do with your back.

The therapist may tell you what exercises you can do to improve the strength and flexibility of the muscles around your spine.

You should avoid driving, sitting for a prolonged period, lifting anything heavy, and bending over immediately after the surgery. Although you won’t be able to resume normal activities immediately, your lifestyle shouldn’t be greatly impacted.

For the first week or two, you may need to reduce your workload or be absent from work while you recover. You’ll also need to avoid lifting heavy objects for 2 to 4 weeks after the surgery. This generally includes anything more than 5 pounds.

You may also need to slowly progress your way back to normal physical activity. For example, you may not be able to resume exercise or physical hobbies for 2 to 4 weeks after the procedure. The typical time to a full recovery is about 6 weeks.

https://www.healthline.com/health/microdiscectomy#recovery

There is a lot more information about the procedure. Risks involved and so forth. I just posted the parts I felt were most pertinent.


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This seems like something you would not want to have done if you are a football player.


If your back is hurting you would, but I understand your point. No doubt some teams might shy away.


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I had a discectomy done several years ago. It was an in and out procedure, with me being at the hospital for about 2 hours total.


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Listened to him talk about it. Then read what you had posted earlier.

He may drop on some Boards. But in the end I doubt that it will affect where he ends up going.

He is really good. And corner is a premium position.

If he was there when we picked. I would hope we take him.

Surtain, Farley, Horn I would be thrilled to get any of them.

My favorite player in this draft though is Koramoah.

But I doubt we get him.

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