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Posted By: rastanplan The I was wrong thread - 11/14/19 02:10 PM
So, starting a I was wrong thread, to all that like who me have no problems admitting we were wrong about a player.

So I was proven wrong by Lamar Jackson,which I thought was childish and didn't have maturity enough to be QB on the NFL,but is showing all that he's the guy.

I was wrong about Minkah, which I thought was a product of Alabama, and didn't have a place in the NFL, but the Kid is a heck of a player.

I like being proven wrong about players I thought would bust...

Now for the worst.

I was wrong about Rosen, which I thought was a sure thing a great QB, but turns our he isn't.

I will stay away from Browns players...
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/14/19 02:17 PM
I was wrong about Brady Quinn
I was wrong about Trent Richardson
I was very right about Brandon Weeden
I was very right about Joe Thomas
Posted By: oobernoober Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/14/19 02:57 PM
I hope this turns out to be a fun thread. :-)

Probably splitting hairs, but I think Rosen got hosed. I will maintain that he's a good QB victimized by coaching turnover and being on terrible teams. I say it's splitting hairs because I don't see his situation improving such that he can turn things around. He will go down as a bust.
Posted By: Dave Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/14/19 03:03 PM
I was so wrong when I bought a 1971 Chevy Vega with an aluminum engine block, which warped from the heat.

But I was right about Billy Manziel.
Posted By: oobernoober Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/14/19 03:23 PM
I was very wrong about Justin Gilbert.
Posted By: OldColdDawg Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/14/19 03:29 PM
I was SO wrong about Johnny Manziel.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/14/19 03:31 PM
I was also wrong about Courtney Brown. Granted, injuries played a role, but I thought he’d be Bruce Smith like
Posted By: WSU Willie Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/14/19 03:33 PM
I was wrong about Hue Jackson...excruciatingly, painfully, 100% wrong.
Posted By: AZBrown Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/14/19 03:44 PM
Among so many others, I was wrong about:

Rison in '95
Fowler in '02
Quinn in '07
Chud (I know, not a player) in '13
..........and Mingo
Posted By: oobernoober Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/14/19 03:58 PM
Originally Posted By: WSU Willie
I was wrong about Hue Jackson...excruciatingly, painfully, 100% wrong.


This is a good one. I was also wrong about Hue.
Posted By: YTownBrownsFan Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/14/19 04:20 PM
Originally Posted By: WSU Willie
I was wrong about Hue Jackson...excruciatingly, painfully, 100% wrong.


Me 2, and 3, and 4, and 5 ......
Posted By: bonefish Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/14/19 05:09 PM

What me wrong?

Trent Richardson. Can not believe he turned out as bad as he did.

Don't know if this is "I was right thread as well?"

Weeden - I thought he was a third rounder at best.

Manziel - Took him off my draft board. Would never have drafted him.

I won't get into so many other choices right and wrong.
Posted By: DiamDawg Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/14/19 05:14 PM
My list is to long ... the ones i was wrong about that hurt us the most ...

BRADY BRADY BRADY

And

DAVID DAVID DAVID ... Thats Terrell fo u newbies ...
Posted By: DeisleDawg Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/14/19 05:22 PM
I was wrong when I told Columbusdawg to renew my season ticket club seat.
only been to two games and have no interest in going to any others.

I was wrong about Mitch Trubisky

I was wrong about Calloway..Seibert..Mayfield...Higgins

I was wrong about Freddie

I was wrong thinking the Browns wouldn't be stinking
Posted By: FrankPitts Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/14/19 05:23 PM
Andre Rison among many others.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/14/19 05:25 PM
I thought Jeff Garcia would be the key to our rebuild at one point
Posted By: FL_Dawg Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/14/19 05:26 PM
Mike Junkin ... "The Junkyard Dawg" rofl
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/14/19 05:26 PM
Originally Posted By: FL_Dawg
Mike Junkin ... "The Junkyard Dawg" rofl
yikes yes
Posted By: rastanplan Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/14/19 05:37 PM
Don't know but in my opinion is better to stay away from Browns players, just so we don't fall into the same conversations.

Originally Posted By: oobernoober
I hope this turns out to be a fun thread. :-)

Probably splitting hairs, but I think Rosen got hosed. I will maintain that he's a good QB victimized by coaching turnover and being on terrible teams. I say it's splitting hairs because I don't see his situation improving such that he can turn things around. He will go down as a bust.


Rosen I honestly think now that he is not that good, Darnold there is still a good chance, although he is too inconsistent.
Posted By: bonefish Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/14/19 05:51 PM

Being that I have been following the Browns since 1960 it covers lots of ground.

I was physically sick when we didn't draft Wentz.

I had mixed feelings about Deshaun Watson. Loved his big game play. Thought he was an excellent leader. Was not sure about his overall accuracy. Wanted to take him but was not positive.
Posted By: CBFAN19 Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/14/19 05:57 PM
J/C

I was wrong about Trubisky, Mahomes, and Lamar Jackson (if his career continues the way this season is going).

I was also wrong about Garret Grayson. I thought he'd be the heir apparent to Brees and shine at some point.

Another from a few years back was Robert Gallery. I figured he'd be the next Anthony Munoz.
Posted By: myka Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/14/19 06:45 PM
Players I overestimated:
I was wrong about Aaron Curry
I was wrong about Justin Blackmon
I was wrong about Stephen Hill

Players I underestimated:
I was wrong about Aaron Donald (I thought he'd be good, but not like this)
I went through 1st and 2nd round draft list since 2004 and couldn't find any players I thought would be bad that weren't. I think that's mostly due to usually looking for good players, not bad ones, so it's not that I'm amazing just never really look for players to hate on.


Browns:
I was wrong about Nick Chubb (my biggest miss ever. I wanted Michel)
I was wrong about Colt McCoy
I was wrong about Greg Little
I was wrong about Jordan Poyer
I was wrong about Gerrard Warren
I was wrong about Phil Taylor

I think that's it since '99.

I feel like a lot of you are forgetting to include Patrick Mahomes. Almost everybody wanted Garrett that year.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/14/19 06:46 PM
Aaron Curry! That’s another name that was thrown around a LOT about a decade ago ... blast from the past
Posted By: Bull_Dawg Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/14/19 07:31 PM
I was wrong about Chubb. I didn't think he'd be bad, but I didn't see him being as good as he is.

I was wrong about OBJ opening up the offense. There's still time for it to work out "long"-term, but there are no guarantees, though.
Posted By: SuperBrown Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/14/19 07:56 PM
LOL...I have so many WRONGS, they would fill War and Peace.

Some Highlights....

I was wrong about Trent Richardson. This guy was the most impressive college running back that I ever saw. His meltdown still has me scratching my head.

I was wrong about Johnny Manziel...LOL!

I was wrong about OBJ. His presence here has only complicated matters with another Alpha dog WR in VG.

I was wrong about Zeitler. His departure is deeply missed.

I was wrong about Freddie. His play calls are insane!! We should be running the ball 30-35 times a game AND NOT PASSING THE BALL 30-35 TIMES A GAME!!!!!
Posted By: willitevachange Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/14/19 08:03 PM
J/C

I was right about Rosen after I saw him with the cards and how he reacted towards his players last year and his body language.

I was really wrong about Trent Richardson

I was right about Chubb

I was right about Justin Gilbert

I am leaving Njoku out (I said he would amazing, and he just hasn't lived up to that yet) cause I think his book still needs written.

I was right about J. Peppers (said he was nothing special but a solid player)
Posted By: Tulsa Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/14/19 08:23 PM
I was wrong about my first wife.
Posted By: Bard Dawg Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/14/19 08:30 PM
I was wrong more than once about Courtney Brown AND Mingo.

PS I still regret them.
Posted By: bonefish Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/14/19 08:43 PM

Mingo. Damn I remember thinking do not take this guy. He had zero power. Solely a speed guy. I knew the NFL lineman would get their hands on him and it would be over.

People rag on Courtney but reality was he was as dominant or more so than Garrett. Nobody would have passed on him.

He got hurt and it was over.

I don't think it is fair to call him a bust. He never got started.
Posted By: PortlandDawg Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/14/19 08:50 PM
Robert Gallery is a great example of my inability to recognize NFL talent. We were so devoid of a quality LT. Our QBs were getting destroyed. I was livid when we didn’t trade up for him... Bullet dodged. He flopped as an OT, but played a few years as an average guard if I recall. Besides we ended up with Winslow Jr so all is good in the world. smh

I never thought Philip Rivers would be any good.

Alex Smith was about what I thought he’d be through his first 7 years or so. Though he ended up with a few good years I guess. Still not worth the draft slot.

I wanted Braylon Edwards... oops.

Was right about Joey Harrington.
Was wrong about Mariota.... I thought he’d be out of the league by now... lol. (It’s getting closer.)
Posted By: PortlandDawg Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/14/19 08:53 PM
Originally Posted By: bonefish

Mingo. Damn I remember thinking do not take this guy. He had zero power. Solely a speed guy. I knew the NFL lineman would get their hands on him and it would be over.

People rag on Courtney but reality was he was as dominant or more so than Garrett. Nobody would have passed on him.

He got hurt and it was over.

I don't think it is fair to call him a bust. He never got started.


I agree on Brown. I’d still take a healthy Courtney Brown over Garrett. No knock on Garrett but Courtney was an unblockable monster when healthy... which sadly wasn’t very often.
Posted By: myka Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/14/19 10:56 PM
Originally Posted By: PortlandDawg
Originally Posted By: bonefish

Mingo. Damn I remember thinking do not take this guy. He had zero power. Solely a speed guy. I knew the NFL lineman would get their hands on him and it would be over.

People rag on Courtney but reality was he was as dominant or more so than Garrett. Nobody would have passed on him.

He got hurt and it was over.

I don't think it is fair to call him a bust. He never got started.


I agree on Brown. I’d still take a healthy Courtney Brown over Garrett. No knock on Garrett but Courtney was an unblockable monster when healthy... which sadly wasn’t very often.


He played 16 games before the injury and had 4.5 sacks. He wasn't THAT unblockable. He had potential for sure but we never got to see it.

Myles on the other hand had 10 sacks in 7 games this year, and should've had 1 more last week but the Refs are the Refs.

When's the last time we had a 10 sack guy?

We romanticize older picks on this team a lot for some reason.

Now if we're talking college, sure Brown was one of the best All-time, but never in the Pros.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/14/19 11:03 PM
Beau Bell was someone I thought could turn out
Posted By: PerfectSpiral Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/15/19 12:14 AM
Trent Richardson got me.
Posted By: Knight_Of_Brown Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/15/19 12:17 AM
I was wrong about Myles Garret but boy am I glad I was wrong because him
and Chubb are my two favorite players!
Posted By: PerfectSpiral Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/15/19 12:25 AM
Man I’m disappointed that nobody has the nads to say Josh Gordon. That dude cost us more (team development) than any one player ever.

I was right about Gordon. Loser.
Posted By: Spiritbro77 Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/15/19 12:43 AM
I was very very wrong about Richardson. I thought he was the next Emmitt Smith. I still don't understand what happened with him.

I too was wrong about Lamar Jackson. I still think he will likely get hurt because running QB's always seem to... but I was wrong about him. He got a 13 on the Wonderlic test. I thought he wasn't smart enough to play in the pros. That sure isn't the case.

I was wrong about Hue Jackson. I thought he would be a good HC. I couldn't have BEEN more mistaken. Wow.

Way too times being wrong to list them all. I hope I am right about Dorsey. I believe he will get us there eventually. It may still take some time but I still have faith in him and think he's the best GM since the return. Man, I don't want to be wrong about that. Starting over yet again is way too ugly a prospect to consider. Peace
Posted By: DeputyDawg Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/15/19 01:48 AM
This post would start with Tony Mandrich but I'll leave it at that and save you all the 3 hours of reading that would follow...
Posted By: jfanent Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/15/19 03:00 AM
I thought Chud would turn this team around.
Posted By: EveDawg Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/15/19 03:03 AM
I didnt want Hunt.
Posted By: GMdawg Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/15/19 12:38 PM
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Posted By: FrankPitts Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/27/19 03:24 AM
Mike Phipps...he was going to be so good we didn't need Paul Warfield
Posted By: devicedawg Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/27/19 03:48 AM
Ok.

I was wrong about Roethlisberger.

I was wrong about Johnny, in a way. I still think he could be good, but I never thought his head would get in the way like it has.

I'll add Brandon Weeden as well.

I was wrong about Haslam.
Posted By: WooferDawg Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/27/19 05:20 AM
Originally Posted By: jfanent
I thought Chud would turn this team around.


To be fair, fired after one season is more a comment about ownership than Chud.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/27/19 10:23 AM
Originally Posted By: ChargerDawg
Originally Posted By: jfanent
I thought Chud would turn this team around.


To be fair, fired after one season is more a comment about ownership than Chud.
My thoughts too ... who knows how Chud would have done with another year or two
Posted By: oobernoober Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/27/19 01:39 PM
I thought adding Kareem Hunt to our offense would be a waste of talent. He's slotted in nicely.
Posted By: Hammer Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/27/19 03:16 PM
So right about R Wilson and so right about Weeden - same year. Puked when the Walrus drafted that God awful ginger.

Right about Rosen.

Wrong about Lamar.
Posted By: Dawg Duty Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/27/19 03:22 PM
I was wrong about Lamar. I thought he was too inaccurate and would get hurt.
Posted By: bonefish Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/27/19 03:44 PM

I don't think anyone saw what Lamar is now doing.

If anyone was honest. Looking at Lamar's college tape he was inaccurate.

His mechanics were poor. He threw the ball with his legs very close together. He missed guys by yards.

Major props to Lamar for the work and improvement he has made.

In addition Harbaugh and his staff have done wonders in building an offense to fit his skills.

Posted By: SuperBrown Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/27/19 04:46 PM
Originally Posted By: Dawg Duty
I was wrong about Lamar. I thought he was too inaccurate and would get hurt.


You won't be wrong as soon as someone lays him out.

It's coming.
Posted By: SaintDawg Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/27/19 05:38 PM
I was wrong about Peyton Hillis, Andre Rison, Tony Mandarich, Lamar Jackson, RG III
Posted By: FATE Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/27/19 06:07 PM
Alright. I was wrong about Ryan Leaf... figured both him and Peyton were can't miss prospects. Payton on the fast track to the HOF, Leaf breaking into homes stealing Vicodin.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/27/19 06:16 PM
j/c

I had no idea we had this many Catholics on the board.

saywhat

We've all been right on such things and we've all been wrong on such things.
Posted By: BustkeviousMingo Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/27/19 06:20 PM
I was wrong about to much to list. I was wrong about Billy Manziel and him keeping it together to have the chance at a career. Josh Gordon about his drug/drinking problems. Brady Quinn being a franchise QB. Kellen Winslow being the next great pass catching TE.And worse of all I thought Levi Brown would have a better career than Joe Thomas
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/27/19 11:23 PM
J/c

Ive been WAY wrong about Lamar to this point ... he’s dynamite
Posted By: mgh888 Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/28/19 12:37 AM
Only just getting a chance to go back and look at this in a little depth and look at the last 20 years of drafts .... and I guess free agents:

- I was wrong about Njoku. I had uber high expectations.
- Super wrong on Corey Coleman.
- I bought into the Cameron Erving propaganda after the pick.
- I bought into Justin Gilbert even more.
- I convinced myself that a 28 year old first round QB might be genius
- I thought Brian Robiskie was going to be a great #2 for years.
- I thought we made the right call with the Quiet Storm ....
- Thought Josh Gordon was going to get his act together.
- I thought Jeff Garcia was going to be a great leader.
- I thought the thief that is Mike Holmgren was going to build an dynasty.

So many bad memories. Need a Steelers beat down this weekend to help purge these now that I've self inflicted wounds to my myself.
Posted By: EveDawg Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/28/19 12:43 AM
I didn't want Baker or Ward.

I bought into the Darnold hype.

Boy was I wrong.
Posted By: Tulsa Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/28/19 12:57 AM
Originally Posted By: bonefish

I don't think anyone saw what Lamar is now doing.

If anyone was honest. Looking at Lamar's college tape he was inaccurate.

His mechanics were poor. He threw the ball with his legs very close together. He missed guys by yards.

Major props to Lamar for the work and improvement he has made.

In addition Harbaugh and his staff have done wonders in building an offense to fit his skills.



I think Swish was quite upfront about the potential he saw in Lamar. A potential that no one agreed with.
Posted By: bonefish Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/28/19 01:28 AM

Sam Darnold is 22 years old.

I don't think his career is history yet.
Posted By: EveDawg Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/28/19 02:10 AM
Originally Posted By: bonefish

Sam Darnold is 22 years old.

I don't think his career is history yet.


I would not trade Baker for Darnold.

We made the right pick. wink
Posted By: boofers20 Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/28/19 02:36 AM
I was right about Kam Wimbley, I hated that we traded to move up when we could've had Haloti Ngata
Kellen Winslow II...hailed to be the greatest TE ever, turned out to be one of the weirdest rapists ever
Trent Richardson...that 1st year was beast mode, I recall on of his first runs that knocked the helmet off that eagles player. I truely believe that the trade to the Colts in his 2nd year derailed him mentally, had all the physical tools but not the mental toughness. That trade told him that he wasn't worthy to be on our team
Posted By: SuperBrown Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/28/19 03:46 AM
Originally Posted By: EveDawg
Originally Posted By: bonefish

Sam Darnold is 22 years old.

I don't think his career is history yet.


I would not trade Baker for Darnold.

We made the right pick. wink


Darnold was my first choice and I'm glad I was wrong!

Darnold is still going to be a good NFL qb, but I think Baker has more upside.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/28/19 10:20 AM
Trent Richardson was a mental midget .. remember those screen grabs where he was missing the hole by large margins; simply couldn’t read a defense.

His best trait was receiving out of the backfield (remember that game at Cincy) ... but man, what. Bust
Posted By: W84NxtYrAgain Re: The I was wrong thread - 11/28/19 12:54 PM
I'll join the crown about T-Rich
I was wrong about Greg Robinson, thought he'd be a Thomas-like stud.
I was wrong about Rosen and Mayfield, my order was Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield. I thought Rosen was going to be an instant success.
I was way wrong about Jackson.

I was very right about Manziel. I knew it in his sophomore year at A&M. It was an away game (TCU?) and he did his patented drop back, scan the field, and scramble for a TD. The crowd boo'd and jeered him, so he did his money fingers gesture, drawing a 15 yard penalty for taunting. As he came off the field, his HC came onto the field to intercept and scold him, and Johnny walked right past him like he wasn't there. That moment of disrespecting his HC told me all I needed to know about Johnny F_____ Football.
Posted By: Iluvmyxstripper Re: The I was wrong thread - 12/02/19 02:15 AM
I was wrong about Lawyer Tillman
6'5 and boy could he run. I thought him and Vinny could make a nice combo.
He had the build. The physical makeup.

Antonio Langham. Alabama CB. Has All Pro written on him
Nope. Just another bust who couldnt take on bigger WRs.

Brady Quinn. I thought he was the real deal.
Good head on his shoulders. Seemed like a football savant
Posted By: tastybrownies Re: The I was wrong thread - 12/02/19 03:02 AM
Ohhhhhh, I was Brady Quinn's biggest fan. I remember asking my Dad to tape the Notre Dame games so I could watch them later. Remember speeding home from one of my night school classes to watch Brady Quinn's first pre-season game. Boy was I wrong on that one.
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