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Posted By: cfrs15 Browns assistant coach rumors II - 01/30/20 05:38 PM
Old Staff:

Head coach/play caller - Freddie Kitchens
Associate head coach/offensive line – James Campen
Special assistant to head coach – Jody Wright
Offensive coordinator – Todd Monken
Quarterbacks – Ryan Lindley
Run game coordinator/running backs – Stump Mitchell
Wide receivers – Adam Henry
Tight ends – John Lilly
Assistant offensive line – Jeff Blasko
Offensive quality control – Jim Dray
Offensive quality control – Tyler Tettleton

Defensive coordinator – Steve Wilks
Defensive line – Tosh Lupoi
Assistant defensive line – John Parrella
Run game coordinator/linebackers – Al Holcomb
Pass game coordinator/secondary – Joe Whitt Jr.
Defensive backs – DeWayne Walker
Senior defensive assistant – Chris Jones
Defensive quality control – Deuce Schwartz
Defensive quality control – Alonso Escalante

Special teams coordinator – Mike Priefer
Assistant special teams – Doug Colman

New Staff:

Head coach - Kevin Stefanski
Senior offensive assistant/offensive line – Bill Callahan
Special assistant to head coach – ???
Offensive coordinator – Alex Van Pelt
Quarterbacks – ???
Run game coordinator/running backs – Stump Mitchell
Wide receivers – Chad O'Shea
Tight ends – Drew Petzing
Assistant offensive line – ???
Offensive quality control – ???
Offensive quality control – ???

Defensive coordinator – Joe Woods
Defensive line – ???
Assistant defensive line – ???
Linebackers – ???
Defensive backs/passing game coordinator – Jeff Howard
Senior defensive assistant – ???
Defensive quality control – ???
Defensive quality control – ???

Special teams coordinator – Mike Priefer
Assistant special teams – Doug Colman
Posted By: leadtheway Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 01/30/20 05:42 PM
wonder if we might see McAdoo as Qb coach/asst oline..he's done both in past.
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 01/30/20 05:45 PM
Originally Posted By: leadtheway
wonder if we might see McAdoo as Qb coach/asst oline..he's done both in past.


I bet we would have heard about him being hired if we was going to be on staff. He's a free agent so there is no point in waiting to announce it (by announce I mean leaking it to a reporter).
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 01/30/20 06:11 PM
J/c

I don’t think McAdoo will end up here now. I think we’d have heard
Posted By: oobernoober Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 01/30/20 07:14 PM
While I understand that, in our current digital age, things work a lot faster now... I always expect the majority of hirings to happen once the respective boss is in place (HC hires his coordinators, coordinators hire their position coaches, etc).
Posted By: GratefulDawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 01/31/20 05:48 PM
New Browns Kevin Stefanski has hired Callie Brownson as his Chief of Staff -- I believe this is the first time a woman has been hired for this NFL role. Brownson recently worked as intern in Buffalo, and was previously an asst coach at Dartmouth.

https://twitter.com/bylindsayhjones/status/1223298590199644161
Posted By: GratefulDawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 01/31/20 05:49 PM


How the NFL is working to expand the number of female coaches

https://www.espn.com/espnw/sports/story/_/id/26481101/how-nfl-working-expand-number-female-coaches
Posted By: Milk Man Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 01/31/20 05:59 PM
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 01/31/20 06:03 PM
Congrats Callie
Posted By: DeisleDawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 01/31/20 06:26 PM
Nice to see the opportunity given to her... Good luck and welcome to Cleveland.

It's a big world full of color shapes differences of all sorts.. I've learned years ago to accept things I didn't always agree with..

Makes life less stressful more interesting and more enjoyable
Posted By: SuperBrown Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 01/31/20 07:05 PM
Women coaching Pro Football?

Women discussing football?

Women on the sidelines?

Women belong in the kitchen as homemakers.
Posted By: Cincy_Dawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 01/31/20 07:12 PM
Congratulations and Welcome Callie!
Posted By: Hammer Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 01/31/20 08:09 PM
Can't wait for Eve's response to this.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 01/31/20 08:23 PM
Originally Posted By: SuperBrown
Women coaching Pro Football?

Women discussing football?

Women on the sidelines?

Women belong in the kitchen as homemakers.


I know you posted this just to create attention to yourself. I mean that's like, what you do.

But I mean who really cares if it's a man or a woman as long as they can do the job?

It's not like she's playing QB or anything. wink
Posted By: 1oldMutt Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 01/31/20 08:30 PM
From all you hear the SF guys are pretty responsive to Katie Sowers. Sure cant hurt anything and I don't believe Stefanski would hurt his position just to get a headline. I'm sure as far as he's concerned she brings something real positive to the table. Besides, I believe it a good thing to have someone in your ear willing to say, "You sure you wanna do that"? She may be just that...
Posted By: Bull_Dawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 01/31/20 08:39 PM
I'm not sure how I feel about Stefanski talking about developing her into a head coach. I'm not saying developing her is a bad thing. I'm just thinking he might want to focus more on developing himself as a head coach first.

He might be disciplined and driven enough to pull both off. (Admittedly, he might not be able to make any of it work.) It just struck me as a bit ambitious. This isn't just any team. He's trying to turn around the Browns.
Posted By: BCbrownie Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 01/31/20 09:02 PM
Sorry everybody,I just realized I had forgotten to put a nicotine patch on this AM.I was a bit irritable.
And a special apology goes out to those of you I wish I could have reached across the internet and strangled.No harm no foul.
Posted By: GMdawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 01/31/20 09:08 PM
Brownson what a Perfect last name cool
Posted By: Milk Man Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 01/31/20 09:14 PM
j/c...

Posted By: YTownBrownsFan Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 01/31/20 09:20 PM
Originally Posted By: Milk Man
j/c...



He doesn't know our organization or team owner very well, does he? It's more like "I'll be Dawg Pound for the next year or so, until Haslam fires the entire organization, and starts over yet again.
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 01/31/20 09:45 PM
Head coach - Kevin Stefanski
Chief of staff – Callie Brownson
Senior offensive assistant/offensive line – Bill Callahan
Offensive coordinator – Alex Van Pelt
Quarterbacks – ???
Run game coordinator/running backs – Stump Mitchell
Wide receivers – Chad O'Shea
Tight ends – Drew Petzing
Assistant offensive line – ???
Offensive quality control – ???
Offensive quality control – ???

Defensive coordinator – Joe Woods
Defensive line – ???
Assistant defensive line – ???
Linebackers – ???
Defensive backs/passing game coordinator – Jeff Howard
Senior defensive assistant – ???
Defensive quality control – ???
Defensive quality control – ???

Special teams coordinator – Mike Priefer
Assistant special teams – Doug Colman
Posted By: SuperBrown Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 01/31/20 10:18 PM
Women don't belong in Football just like crying isn't allowed in baseball.
Funny to see there’s still some cavemen roaming the boards, whether it’s for reals or for reactions idk. And I Idc.
She sounds like hustler. Glad to see more daughters and sisters getting an opportunity. As a guy who grew up with 5 strong sisters and a raising a strong daughter, it’s good to see. Hope she does great.
Posted By: JulesDawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/01/20 02:45 AM
There used to be a number of female Browns fans who posted here. They brought a lot to this board. I wonder why most of them left?
Posted By: highoman Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/01/20 06:44 AM
Originally Posted By: JulesDawg
There used to be a number of female Browns fans who posted here. They brought a lot to this board. I wonder why most of them left?


Got my pls from one of them years ago.
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/01/20 10:19 AM
Originally Posted By: JulesDawg
There used to be a number of female Browns fans who posted here. They brought a lot to this board. I wonder why most of them left?


And I miss them.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/01/20 10:57 AM
Yeah, I’ve noticed that as well. I wish they’d return and/or we’d have more females
Posted By: jfanent Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/01/20 12:27 PM
If they felt she was the best person for the job, welcome aboard! thumbsup

If they hired her for any other reason, thumbsdown
Posted By: bringbackbernie Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/01/20 01:11 PM
Are you 12 years old, or do you just act like it?
Serious question.
Posted By: Swish Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/01/20 01:58 PM
Jc

I hope no one gets upset, but one of the things I’ve always loved about our team is the willingness to hire minority coaches and FO personnel.

And now we hired our first woman to the staff? My oldest daughter is a huge browns fan and she broke this news to me, extremely happy and excited, which made me extremely happy and excited.

I hope she does amazing here!
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/01/20 04:35 PM
Originally Posted By: Swish
Jc

I hope no one gets upset, but one of the things I’ve always loved about our team is the willingness to hire minority coaches and FO personnel.

And now we hired our first woman to the staff? My oldest daughter is a huge browns fan and she broke this news to me, extremely happy and excited, which made me extremely happy and excited.

I hope she does amazing here!


I don't know why anyone who isn't just a prejudiced person would get upset. Thankfully, those numbers dwindle quickly as each decade passes. I have the advantage of age to be able to put in perspective the massive changes we see today v even 30 years ago.

Still a ways to go, but time is really the only way to get the change we want. Making the post WWII years as the starting point, 1950 would be 0, the starting point of real change, I'd say we are around 75%. Massive change in my lifetime. By the time you are my age...even younger really, things speed up as momentum takes hold, I might even see as good as it gets if I hang in maybe 15 more years. 100% is never going to be a true 100%...you are always going to have a small group of haters.

I could go on, but just deleted a paragraph because I could see it would take longer and it is getting off topic. I just thought it important to say what I have already said. No intent to steer off course.
Posted By: DeisleDawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/01/20 06:12 PM
Quote:
I hope no one gets upset, but one of the things I’ve always loved about our team is the willingness to hire minority coaches and FO personnel.



I remember in Stefansky's presser he was asked about this ..He was eagerly excited for the opportunity to have the ability to hire coaches of the minority. I personally don't like using the word minority or person of color or what ever the right way of saying things now a days.

As far as having a Lady on the coaching staff doesn't bother me in anyway. 4 older sisters 3 daughters and 3 granddaughters with no boys except nephews and cousins in my life..I got this real love for them gals smile

I see many girls sports teams with lots of men coaching them.. Doesn't seem like a issue. One of my favorite coaches was Cheryl Miller.

I'm glad your daughter is excited for this hire...Maybe you can get her a user name on here... this board is in need of more woman... I miss talking with the girls from the past on here especially when there was the chat room... Dang them was some fun times..
Posted By: DeisleDawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/01/20 06:15 PM
Quote:
There used to be a number of female Browns fans who posted here. They brought a lot to this board.


Oh hell yes you all did...the chat room was a Blast !!!

Michelle..couch girl browns babe and yourself... Holy crap was that fun times..Tell Michelle hi for me and I hope your all doing well..

Love and miss you
Posted By: DeisleDawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/01/20 06:19 PM
I like your post...but this was uhmmm...lmao


Quote:
She sounds like hustler.



Maybe hustler isn't the right word...lol
Posted By: Homewood Dog Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/01/20 06:27 PM
Congratulations Callie !! Welcome aboard and glad to have you!!!
Posted By: Dave Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/01/20 06:57 PM
Originally Posted By: DeisleDawg
Quote:
There used to be a number of female Browns fans who posted here. They brought a lot to this board.


Oh hell yes you all did...the chat room was a Blast !!!

Michelle..couch girl browns babe and yourself... Holy crap was that fun times..Tell Michelle hi for me and I hope your all doing well..

Love and miss you


Maybe a Jim Bundren post would bring them back. Or something about manatees (don't remember why, but I know it was a thing). I also liked Iambrown and Dawgy Lama, along with Jules and Michelle, and others. The women can bring the snark better than most men, and I am a big fan of snark.
Posted By: DeisleDawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/01/20 07:01 PM
Quote:
Iambrown and Dawgy Lama,


Dave they were awesome... I feel bad I forgot to mention them.. So grateful you remembered them..
Posted By: vadawgfan07 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/01/20 07:09 PM
I guess you didn't get enough of a rise out of folks the first time you posted such nonsense so you have to keep doing it.
Posted By: Dave Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/01/20 08:52 PM
Originally Posted By: DeisleDawg
Quote:
Iambrown and Dawgy Lama,


Dave they were awesome... I feel bad I forgot to mention them.. So grateful you remembered them..


May God help you if they come back and see you omitted them, because I won't be able to. Back in the day, when a pack of p'd off female Dawgs came after you, you were toast.

wink
Posted By: GMdawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/01/20 08:54 PM
or lucky as hell, as all those ladies are as beautiful on the inside as they are on the outside cool
Posted By: Dave Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/01/20 09:14 PM
Originally Posted By: GMdawg
or lucky as hell, as all those ladies are as beautiful on the inside as they are on the outside cool


No doubt, but still fierce when provoked. wink
Posted By: Jester Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/01/20 11:55 PM
Originally Posted By: Swish
Jc

I hope no one gets upset, but one of the things I’ve always loved about our team is the willingness to hire minority coaches and FO personnel.

And now we hired our first woman to the staff? My oldest daughter is a huge browns fan and she broke this news to me, extremely happy and excited, which made me extremely happy and excited.

I hope she does amazing here!


The only thing about that that upsets me is that we hired Hue Jackson and not Tony Dungy
Posted By: Rishuz Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/02/20 12:07 AM
Originally Posted By: Swish
Jc

I hope no one gets upset, but one of the things I’ve always loved about our team is the willingness to hire minority coaches and FO personnel.

And now we hired our first woman to the staff? My oldest daughter is a huge browns fan and she broke this news to me, extremely happy and excited, which made me extremely happy and excited.

I hope she does amazing here!


Raising daughters myself I think this is awesome.

And say what you want about the Haslams...I myself am no fan at all...but they put their money where their mouth is when it comes to hiring the best person regardless of race, color, gender.

I think it's fantastic.
Posted By: SuperBrown Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/02/20 06:49 PM
That's a woman?

Posted By: Pdawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/02/20 08:04 PM
What is wrong with you?
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/02/20 08:08 PM
If you're going to make a list you're going to need a new pen and new tablet.
Posted By: Bull_Dawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/02/20 08:24 PM
Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
If you're going to make a list you're going to need a new pen and new tablet.


We might need a bigger internet.
Posted By: SuperBrown Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/02/20 08:54 PM
You know you asked yourself the same thing.
Posted By: jfanent Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/02/20 09:22 PM
I wondered if they put the wrong pic on there. Should I feel guilty for that?
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/02/20 09:28 PM
I probably would have thought the same if I hadn’t heard of her story before
Posted By: Bard Dawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/02/20 10:07 PM
Congrats! Do yourself proud! I was surprised to see it, but own it all.

Win some! thumbsup
Posted By: MemphisBrownie Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/03/20 03:33 PM
j/c:

Waiting on the the formal Joe Woods hire....

Posted By: MemphisBrownie Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/03/20 04:10 PM
Posted By: devicedawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/03/20 04:16 PM
Cue the fan that will say, "We can't hire this guy, he was part of a defense that just gave up 21 points in the final 6 and a half minutes of the super bowl!"
Posted By: Halfback32 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/03/20 04:25 PM
Originally Posted By: devicedawg
Cue the fan that will say, "We can't hire this guy, he was part of a defense that just gave up 21 points in the final 6 and a half minutes of the super bowl!"


facepalms .. expecting the same thing ... saywhat
Posted By: Bard Dawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/03/20 04:40 PM
Cue the fans saying that they wish WE could do that once. But hope it is true.
Posted By: PeteyDangerous Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/03/20 04:45 PM
JC: I'm excited about all the hires. The biggest thing concerning me is no QB Coach yet.

I don't like the idea of Alex Van Pelt being OC and QB Coach. I want one or the other. Isn't QB Coach/Asst Head Coach/O Coordinator what Pep Hamilton did here with Hue Jackson?

I'd rather hire someone specifically for Baker Mayfield. One task, not two
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/03/20 04:59 PM
Originally Posted By: PeteyDangerous
Isn't QB Coach/Asst Head Coach/O Coordinator what Pep Hamilton did here with Hue Jackson?


Pep Hamilton was the Associate Head Coach/Quarterbacks Coach. Hue Jackson was the offensive coordinator.

Originally Posted By: PeteyDangerous
The biggest thing concerning me is no QB Coach yet.


I'm guessing we hire a QB coach it just hasn't been announced yet. We have several spots "still open".
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/03/20 05:31 PM
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/03/20 05:33 PM
Head coach - Kevin Stefanski
Chief of staff – Callie Brownson
Senior offensive assistant/offensive line – Bill Callahan
Offensive coordinator – Alex Van Pelt
Quarterbacks – ???
Run game coordinator/running backs – Stump Mitchell
Wide receivers – Chad O'Shea
Tight ends – Drew Petzing
Assistant offensive line – ???
Offensive quality control – ???
Offensive quality control – ???

Defensive coordinator – Joe Woods
Defensive line – ???
Assistant defensive line – ???
Linebackers – Fred Pagac
Defensive backs/passing game coordinator – Jeff Howard
Senior defensive assistant – ???
Defensive quality control – ???
Defensive quality control – ???

Special teams coordinator – Mike Priefer
Assistant special teams – Doug Colman
Posted By: SuperBrown Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/03/20 06:30 PM
We can't hire this guy, he was part of a defense that just gave up 21 points in the final 5*** and a half minutes of the super bowl!
Posted By: 1oldMutt Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/03/20 06:38 PM
Wouldn't that be the guy some wanted as HC rather than the guy reported to be our DC?
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/03/20 06:56 PM
Originally Posted By: 1oldMutt
Wouldn't that be the guy some wanted as HC rather than the guy reported to be our DC?



Don't worry about that guy.

One game doesn't make or break anything. Only fools think that, I don't think you the fool.
Posted By: Cincy_Dawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/03/20 08:19 PM
Originally Posted By: SuperBrown
We can't hire this guy, he was part of a defense that just gave up 21 points in the final 5*** and a half minutes of the super bowl!


Can't wait for him do get that chance w/ US!!
Posted By: 1oldMutt Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/03/20 08:46 PM
Just saying I'd pin it on Saleh IF I were to attempt blame of anyone.
Posted By: waterdawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/03/20 08:50 PM
Must be the only one to put the oneness on Shanny's play calling in the fourth quarter. Had the lead and just needed to eat up time and keep The Chiefs O on the bench ..
Posted By: DevilDawg2847 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/03/20 09:30 PM
Originally Posted By: SuperBrown
We can't hire this guy, he was part of a defense that just gave up 21 points in the final 5*** and a half minutes of the super bowl!


Why is there a part of me that feels like this would be an improvement for us? frown
Posted By: kingodawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/03/20 10:08 PM
As a big proponent of female sports and women in sports, I have zero problem with a qualified woman getting a spot on the coaching staff. I do question how ANYONE went from being an intern to being chief of staff and question the reason why
Posted By: ExclDawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/03/20 10:57 PM
Originally Posted By: waterdawg
Must be the only one to put the oneness on Shanny's play calling in the fourth quarter. Had the lead and just needed to eat up time and keep The Chiefs O on the bench ..


Yeah, poor Shanny caught Fred Kitchen's Disease and decided to go all pass happy when the run had been working all day.
Posted By: Dave Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/03/20 11:54 PM
Actually, the Niners leading rusher was WR Deebo Samuels, on 3 gadget plays. You can only go to that well so many times. Their standard run game was below their average. KC's defense did a good job on Raheem Mostert and Tevin Coleman, holding them both to 86 yards. I'm not sure why they didn't use Matt Breida. (Maybe he's hurt, but I hadn't heard about it.) In other words, the Niners run game was not its usual productive self.
Posted By: Jester Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/04/20 01:30 AM
Originally Posted By: kingodawg
As a big proponent of female sports and women in sports, I have zero problem with a qualified woman getting a spot on the coaching staff. I do question how ANYONE went from being an intern to being chief of staff and question the reason why


I think "chief of staff" is just a fancy title for a position that is a combination of gofer and secretary.
Posted By: Bull_Dawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/04/20 02:01 AM
Originally Posted By: Jester
Originally Posted By: kingodawg
As a big proponent of female sports and women in sports, I have zero problem with a qualified woman getting a spot on the coaching staff. I do question how ANYONE went from being an intern to being chief of staff and question the reason why


I think "chief of staff" is just a fancy title for a position that is a combination of gofer and secretary.


I think it is also pretty much the same route as Stefanski. He interned with the Eagles for a year, and then he was assistant to the HC/chief of staff for Childress in Minnesota. Moved to assistant-position coach after a couple years, and moved around/up from there.
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/04/20 10:45 AM
Originally Posted By: kingodawg
As a big proponent of female sports and women in sports, I have zero problem with a qualified woman getting a spot on the coaching staff. I do question how ANYONE went from being an intern to being chief of staff and question the reason why


I think Chief of Staff is a bit of a misrepresentation. I don't think she is like the White House Chief of staff, who holds much power.

In a way she will function like that. Maybe all requests from the press have to go through her and not the press calling the coach directly.

She isn't the boss over the entire staff. Being some type of coordinator would probably a more accurate description of what she actually does. She will relay information from the coach to other coaches as an example, or it could be reverse. Maybe Stefanski wants to sit in on the receiver meeting that day but also wants to know what was being discussed in the running back room, so she sits in on the meeting and reports back. That gives her good experience in dealing with the various coaching rooms.
Posted By: GMdawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/04/20 12:13 PM
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Head coach - Kevin Stefanski
Chief of staff – Callie Brownson
Senior offensive assistant/offensive line – Bill Callahan
Offensive coordinator – Alex Van Pelt
Quarterbacks – ???
Run game coordinator/running backs – Stump Mitchell
Wide receivers – Chad O'Shea
Tight ends – Drew Petzing
Assistant offensive line – ???
Offensive quality control – ???
Offensive quality control – ???

Defensive coordinator – Joe Woods
Defensive line – ???
Assistant defensive line – ???
Linebackers – Fred Pagac
Defensive backs/passing game coordinator – Jeff Howard
Senior defensive assistant – ???
Defensive quality control – ???
Defensive quality control – ???

Special teams coordinator – Mike Priefer
Assistant special teams – Doug Colman


Hey MAC look Callie Brownson is second in charge of coaching the team. I mean her name is right behind Stefanski's so it must be true.
Posted By: GratefulDawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/04/20 01:57 PM


*Still not officially hired

4 things to know about new Browns DC Joe Woods

https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2020/02/04/4-things-to-know-about-new-browns-dc-joe-woods/

Jeff Risdon
2 hours ago
Joe Woods is the new defensive coordinator of the Cleveland Browns. The team hired Woods immediately after he coached the DBs for the San Francisco 49ers on their impressive playoff run, culminating in the team’s tough loss to Kansas City in Super Bowl LIV.

Woods, 49, brings quite a bit of experience to the position. Here are four things to know about the new Browns DC.

He’s coached a lot of really good DBs
Starting his NFL career in Tampa Bay in 2004, Woods jumped into a defense featuring CB Ronde Barber. Woods helped elevate Barber back to being a first-team All-Pro after a couple of prior down seasons. He also coached up Brian Kelly and Dwight Smith into their best career years with the Bucs.

Moving onto Minnesota, he was in charge of Antoine Winfield and Darren Sharper. Winfield had his first three Pro Bowl seasons under Woods’ tutelage. Sharper had one of the greatest seasons of any safety in the Super Bowl era in 2009, notching three pick-sixes among his league-best nine INT and 15 PDs to go with 71 tackles.

In his one season in Oakland with the Raiders, he caught the end of Charles Woodson’s illustrious career. He also coached current Browns slot CB, T.J. Carrie, in that 2014 season.

Moving onto Denver, Woods worked with Chris Harris and turned him from an above-average player into one of the best CBs in the NFL. They captured a Super Bowl in 2015 together. Woods also coached former Browns safety T.J. Ward, as well as All-Pro CB Aqib Talib and Pro Bowl safety Darian Stewart in his four years in Denver. Young Justin Simmons, a pending free agent, emerged under his watch as well.

Of course, handling Richard Sherman in San Francisco in 2019, as well as a resurgent Jimmie Ward, is another feather in Woods’ coaching cap.

Prior coordinating experience
This will not be Woods’ first rodeo as an NFL defensive coordinator. He held that title for two seasons in Denver, 2017-2018. He earned the promotion to the position under head coach Vance Joseph, himself a DBs coach.

Denver didn’t thrive in those two seasons, but it’s hard to blame Woods and the defense. They finished in the top 10 in turnovers created in both seasons and were a top-5 run defense in his first year.

He’s coached in Northeast Ohio before
Woods spent one season as the DBs coach at Kent State back in 1997. It was his first position as a D-I college coach, following stints at Northwestern State in Louisiana and Grand Valley State in Michigan.

His time in Kent was brief. After a dismal 3-8 season, Woods was fired along with the rest of Jim Corrigall’s staff. That 3-8 record was the best the Golden Flashes had in a decade, by the way…

He’s had some impressive mentors along the way
His first season in Minnesota was spent under the guiding eye of Mike Tomlin, his last season with the Vikings before taking over as the head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Leslie Frazier took over for Tomlin, tweaking the 4-3 scheme a bit to feature more man coverage on the outside. Woods and Frazier were an excellent team as defensive coaches.

Woods saw the other side of the schematic coin working under Wade Philips in Denver. Philips is a 3-4 guru. He got back to the 4-3 roots under Robert Saleh in San Francisco, though with a lot more zone coverage behind the dominant rush front than Woods’ prior defenses played.

It will be interesting to see how much his coaching mentors influence what Woods chooses as his style of defense in Cleveland.
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/04/20 02:41 PM
Originally Posted By: GMdawg
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Head coach - Kevin Stefanski
Chief of staff – Callie Brownson
Senior offensive assistant/offensive line – Bill Callahan
Offensive coordinator – Alex Van Pelt
Quarterbacks – ???
Run game coordinator/running backs – Stump Mitchell
Wide receivers – Chad O'Shea
Tight ends – Drew Petzing
Assistant offensive line – ???
Offensive quality control – ???
Offensive quality control – ???

Defensive coordinator – Joe Woods
Defensive line – ???
Assistant defensive line – ???
Linebackers – Fred Pagac
Defensive backs/passing game coordinator – Jeff Howard
Senior defensive assistant – ???
Defensive quality control – ???
Defensive quality control – ???

Special teams coordinator – Mike Priefer
Assistant special teams – Doug Colman


Hey MAC look Callie Brownson is second in charge of coaching the team. I mean her name is right behind Stefanski's so it must be true.



Yep....all the asst. coaches report to her. She tells them what scheme they need to run. LOL
Posted By: 1oldMutt Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/04/20 02:52 PM
That's only AFTER DePodesta tells her what he wants ran..
Posted By: Bull_Dawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/04/20 03:05 PM
Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
Originally Posted By: GMdawg
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Head coach - Kevin Stefanski
Chief of staff – Callie Brownson
Senior offensive assistant/offensive line – Bill Callahan
Offensive coordinator – Alex Van Pelt
Quarterbacks – ???
Run game coordinator/running backs – Stump Mitchell
Wide receivers – Chad O'Shea
Tight ends – Drew Petzing
Assistant offensive line – ???
Offensive quality control – ???
Offensive quality control – ???

Defensive coordinator – Joe Woods
Defensive line – ???
Assistant defensive line – ???
Linebackers – Fred Pagac
Defensive backs/passing game coordinator – Jeff Howard
Senior defensive assistant – ???
Defensive quality control – ???
Defensive quality control – ???

Special teams coordinator – Mike Priefer
Assistant special teams – Doug Colman


Hey MAC look Callie Brownson is second in charge of coaching the team. I mean her name is right behind Stefanski's so it must be true.



Yep....all the asst. coaches report to her. She tells them what scheme they need to run. LOL


No, no, no. She only gathers data and provides it to all the coaches. tongue
Posted By: Milk Man Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/04/20 04:34 PM
It's official...

Posted By: GMdawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/04/20 09:02 PM
Quote:
No, no, no. She only gathers data and provides it to all the coaches.


Oh hell no that can't be true her name is listed under the head coaches on the internet.
Posted By: superbowldogg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/04/20 10:04 PM
The only thing that could get more difficult for the team is that somehow, we end up playing a game in London next year the week before our bye. The Jaguars play 2 games and will be against 2 of 6 teams.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28633920/jaguars-play-two-london-games-2020-boost-revenue

The games will be held on back-to-back Sundays; dates and opponents will be announced in April when the league reveals the schedule. However, the Jaguars did protect home games against Pittsburgh and Chicago, so the opponents will come from this list: Houston, Indianapolis, Tennessee, Cleveland, Detroit and Miami.
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/05/20 06:01 AM
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/05/20 11:01 AM
Originally Posted By: 1oldMutt
That's only AFTER DePodesta tells her what he wants ran..




Oops, I forgot. tongue
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/05/20 01:48 PM
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/05/20 01:56 PM
Get it done and get the staff complete now
Posted By: CapCity Dawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/05/20 03:43 PM
Is this more than a formality?
Posted By: Milk Man Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/05/20 03:49 PM
Sure seems that way. In town to sign the deal.
Posted By: Milk Man Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/05/20 03:50 PM
j/c...

Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/05/20 04:34 PM
Seems like our new staff has made it a point to talk about more of a team effort and focus rather than appeasing OBJ
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/05/20 04:48 PM
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/05/20 09:30 PM
Posted By: Bard Dawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/05/20 10:19 PM
Love the sound of that! Time to get this going. Knowing beats guessing.
Posted By: HotBYoungTurk Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/06/20 12:34 AM
Originally Posted By: CapCity Dawg
Is this more than a formality?


I think its good its happening. I'm sure conversations were had beforehand, but I can't imagine hiring a coach.. and lets say they get fired at some point, and then it gets out that we hired a guy and didn't even interview him. lol. So Browns right? hahah
Posted By: PrplPplEater Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/06/20 06:58 PM
Originally Posted By: Bard Dawg
Knowing beats guessing.


Well, yeah... it's Half the Battle.


laugh
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/06/20 07:04 PM
Uh oh, you said "battle".
Posted By: PrplPplEater Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/06/20 08:00 PM
Have we fired anyone new, yet?
This offseason is boring, already.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/06/20 08:41 PM
I think they're planning on filling every coaching and FO position open before they begin the firings. I mean they haven't even started most of the turnover in the scouting department yet.
Posted By: PrplPplEater Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/06/20 08:45 PM
Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
I think they're planning on filling every coaching and FO position open before they begin the firings. I mean they haven't even started most of the turnover in the scouting department yet.


Inefficient. You can't let the one hold up the other, how are we supposed to ever get anything done around here?
Posted By: Milk Man Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/06/20 08:50 PM
j/c...

Posted By: Dave Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/06/20 09:19 PM
Tom Pelissero:

The #Browns agreed to terms with Joe Woods to be their defensive coordinator, source said. The expected move, now official.

https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1225526641616662546
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/06/20 10:47 PM
Good news .. finalize the staff
Posted By: DevilDawg2847 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/06/20 11:39 PM
Originally Posted By: PrplPplEater
Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
I think they're planning on filling every coaching and FO position open before they begin the firings. I mean they haven't even started most of the turnover in the scouting department yet.


Inefficient. You can't let the one hold up the other, how are we supposed to ever get anything done around here?



*in my best Cathy Newman voice* So what you're saying is: meeting with Jimmy Haslam once a week on Mondays is NOT going to be enough and it needs to be daily?
Posted By: Versatile Dog Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/07/20 12:28 AM
Quote:


Odell Beckham Jr. and Jarvis Landry want the ball, and they’ll be the first ones to shout it from atop the Terminal Tower.

The Browns star wide receivers want to win, too, but they believe their individual success is often necessary for team success.

There is no mind reading here. Beckham and Landry have publicly explained their philosophies many times.

Chad O’Shea obviously knows this.


Not one person questioned this. It's a manufactured lie, but that is how far so-called journalists have fallen.
Posted By: Spiritbro77 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/07/20 08:34 AM
Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
I think they're planning on filling every coaching and FO position open before they begin the firings. I mean they haven't even started most of the turnover in the scouting department yet.


They need to wait until closer to the draft before letting the scouting department go. They want to make it as hard as they can on themselves going into the draft... Wouldn't be Cleveland otherwise...
Posted By: Spiritbro77 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/07/20 08:40 AM
Of course, OBJ and Landry want the ball. EVERY receiver wants the ball. If they didn't, I wouldn't want them on the team. There is zero indication that either player is a bad teammate. OBJ's teammates in NY ALL said he worked hard and was a good guy in the locker room. Landry is all about getting it done. That man wants it. He is my favorite player on the team. IF we EVER start to actually play good footbal and win, they won't care what their numbers are. But I'll wage they both rack up some pretty good stats.

Vers is right, that was a manufactured lie designed to stir the pot and cause controversy by some hack reporter. It's complete BS.
Posted By: mac Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/07/20 01:10 PM
Doing some research on the new LB coach, Fred Pagac...

...where did Pagac coach in 2018 and 2019?
Posted By: MemphisBrownie Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/07/20 01:15 PM
Originally Posted By: mac
Doing some research on the new LB coach, Fred Pagac...

...where did Pagac coach in 2018 and 2019?


Research = Went to his wiki page but his coaching timeline ended at 2017. Need help.
Posted By: Bull_Dawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/07/20 01:16 PM
Originally Posted By: Spiritbro77
Of course, OBJ and Landry want the ball. EVERY receiver wants the ball. If they didn't, I wouldn't want them on the team. There is zero indication that either player is a bad teammate. OBJ's teammates in NY ALL said he worked hard and was a good guy in the locker room. Landry is all about getting it done. That man wants it. He is my favorite player on the team. IF we EVER start to actually play good footbal and win, they won't care what their numbers are. But I'll wage they both rack up some pretty good stats.

Vers is right, that was a manufactured lie designed to stir the pot and cause controversy by some hack reporter. It's complete BS.


Meh, it was only a small bit of the article spun out of what O'Shea said in his presser. People are making it out to be worse than it was.

A little hard on OBJ and Landry, sure you can read it that way. Blatant lies, not so much. Nobody's perfect.

link
Posted By: Swish Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/07/20 01:21 PM
Well I’m sure we would all just LOVE to get rid of Jarvis and OBJ, and go back to the day is robiskie and massaquoi
Posted By: Halfback32 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/07/20 01:33 PM
Originally Posted By: Swish
Well I’m sure we would all just LOVE to get rid of Jarvis and OBJ, and go back to the day is robiskie and massaquoi


be careful .. there are some people here who say neither are any good and do not want them on the team ... notallthere
Posted By: Bull_Dawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/07/20 01:52 PM
Originally Posted By: Swish
Well I’m sure we would all just LOVE to get rid of Jarvis and OBJ, and go back to the day is robiskie and massaquoi


Careful, you're starting to sound like mac.

I want to keep Landry and OBJ around. They did get frustrated and yell about wanting the ball. Hopefully the team, including those two, will be more in synch, and thus successful, this year. The opposite will hopefully help, too (success->in synch.)
Posted By: MemphisBrownie Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/07/20 01:57 PM
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Posted By: oobernoober Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/07/20 01:58 PM
Originally Posted By: Bull_Dawg
Originally Posted By: Swish
Well I’m sure we would all just LOVE to get rid of Jarvis and OBJ, and go back to the day is robiskie and massaquoi


Careful, you're starting to sound like mac.

I want to keep Landry and OBJ around. They did get frustrated and yell about wanting the ball. Hopefully the team, including those two, will be more in synch, and thus successful, this year. The opposite will hopefully help, too (success->in synch.)


I'm no expert on the inner workings of OBJ's and Landry's minds, but I assume 2 things about their football personalities.

1. They care about winning 1st and foremost. They both had somewhat successful seasons, stat-wise, but were still frustrated because of lack of winning. I don't think you get as frustrated as they did when both went over 1k yards. It was the losing that was getting to them.

2. I think OBJ is much more of a diva. I think that if we were winning and he just wasn't getting the looks, he would eventually get frustrated. Just an assumption on my part, though.
Posted By: Swish Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/07/20 01:58 PM
the two of the 3 best players on offense demanding the ball?

they should be tried and hanged for that.
Posted By: Damanshot Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/07/20 02:36 PM
It's funny, the NFL App on my phone is saying that the Browns have hired Joe Woods as DC... Nothing on here, the Browns app or the main site....
Posted By: TrooperDawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/07/20 02:37 PM
Quote:
...where did Pagac coach in 2018 and 2019?


Can't find anything either. He's 67, so I wonder if Stefanski coaxed him out of retirement?
Posted By: MemphisBrownie Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/07/20 02:45 PM
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/07/20 03:00 PM
Nice! Good addition
Posted By: MemphisBrownie Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/07/20 03:05 PM
Update the roster, cfrs!
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/07/20 03:18 PM
Originally Posted By: Damanshot
It's funny, the NFL App on my phone is saying that the Browns have hired Joe Woods as DC... Nothing on here, the Browns app or the main site....


The official site is always the last. They don't release info until the contract is signed.

Sounds like they have struck a deal. Now it takes time to get it written.
Posted By: Milk Man Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/07/20 03:34 PM
Originally Posted By: mac
Doing some research on the new LB coach, Fred Pagac...

...where did Pagac coach in 2018 and 2019?


Needn't worry, Mac. Wade Phillips gives Pagac a thumbs up!

Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/07/20 03:46 PM
Head coach - Kevin Stefanski
Chief of staff – Callie Brownson
Senior offensive assistant/offensive line – Bill Callahan
Offensive coordinator – Alex Van Pelt
Quarterbacks – ???
Run game coordinator/running backs – Stump Mitchell
Wide receivers – Chad O'Shea
Tight ends – Drew Petzing
Assistant offensive line – ???
Offensive quality control – ???
Offensive quality control – ???

Defensive coordinator – Joe Woods
Defensive line – Chris Kiffin
Assistant defensive line – ???
Linebackers – Fred Pagac
Defensive backs/passing game coordinator – Jeff Howard
Senior defensive assistant – ???
Defensive quality control – ???
Defensive quality control – ???

Special teams coordinator – Mike Priefer
Assistant special teams – Doug Colma
Posted By: BCbrownie Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/07/20 05:32 PM
Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
Nice! Good addition


How do you know that?
he could be someone that Shanahan couldn't wait to get rid of.
No one on here knows squat about any of these Ass.Coaches.

I only hope they do well in the short time that they are going to be here.
Posted By: DiamDawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/07/20 05:37 PM
How can VG possibly be your favorite player on the team ... he’s overpaid and not a leader ... rofl ...
Posted By: DiamDawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/07/20 05:39 PM
Originally Posted By: Swish
Well I’m sure we would all just LOVE to get rid of Jarvis and OBJ, and go back to the day is robiskie and massaquoi


At least they weren’t overpaid ... rofl ...

On the other hand no matter how little we paid them it was prolly to much ... thumbsup
Posted By: PrplPplEater Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/07/20 05:43 PM
I'm pretty sure there are still a few people around here that both Robiskie and Pryor just need another chance to be a WR.
Posted By: Bull_Dawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/07/20 05:45 PM
Originally Posted By: Swish
the two of the 3 best players on offense demanding the ball?

they should be tried and hanged for that.


I'm not complaining about it. People were acting like it didn't happen, though.

It happened. I'm fine with it. *shrug*

Was the article a little over the top? Sure. The response by some was moreso.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/07/20 05:57 PM
So now we're weighing the gravity of over the top.

This place never ceases to amaze me.
Posted By: Bull_Dawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/07/20 06:00 PM
Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
So now we're weighing the gravity of over the top.

This place never ceases to amaze me.


When someone calls something "blatant lies" (Upon review it was "manufactured lies") that actually has some truth to it, I don't need a very fine scale.
Posted By: Bull_Dawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/07/20 06:03 PM
Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie


I don't know about his coaching, but he has good bloodlines/connections.

We'll see.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/07/20 06:12 PM
Originally Posted By: Bull_Dawg
When someone calls something "blatant lies" (Upon review it was "manufactured lies") that actually has some truth to it, I don't need a very fine scale.


rofl

So in your world making up a lie isn't a blatant act. Dude, you're really reaching here to make a point that doesn't exist.
Posted By: GratefulDawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/07/20 06:40 PM
Joe Woods named Browns defensive coordinator

https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/joe-woods-named-browns-defensive-coordinator

When the Browns and 49ers met Week 5 of this past season, Joe Woods was on the right side of a dominant victory. Still, even in the midst of San Francisco's win, Woods thought highly of the prospects of Cleveland's defense, especially when it pertained to its potential.

Little did Woods know at the time, months later and days removed from coaching in Super Bowl LIV, he'd be tasked with leading that unit as its new defensive coordinator. And to top it off, he'd be doing it under the guidance of Kevin Stefanski, whom he worked alongside for eight seasons in Minnesota.

"You could definitely see they had some pieces in place, some talented players that I've evaluated over the years," Woods said. "I was definitely excited to have an opportunity to be a coach here.

"Just from tradition, pride and the fanbase, I know they're craving for a winner and I know we're very close. I feel like if we can get it done, the whole city will erupt. I look forward to that challenge."

Woods and Stefanski arrived together in Minnesota in 2006 when Brad Childress took over as head coach. Woods, who was coming off a two-year stint as assistant defensive backs coach with the Buccaneers, was tasked with coaching the defensive backs under then-coordinator Mike Tomlin while Stefanski was assistant to the head coach.

While Stefanski continued to rise the ranks in Minnesota from 2013-19, Woods did the same with a handful of other teams. After a season with the Raiders, Woods joined the Broncos as defensive backs coach in 2015 and promptly won the first Super Bowl of his career. He was elevated to defensive coordinator for the 2017-18 seasons before joining the 49ers as pass game coordinator/DBs coach in 2019.

The 49ers defense held opponents to 169.2 passing yards per game, ranking first in the NFL in 2019, and the lowest total allowed by an NFL team since 2009 (New York Jets 153.7). San Francisco also led the league with 21 forced fumbles. In addition, the 49ers ranked among the NFL leaders in passing first downs allowed (150, tied for first), total yards per game allowed (281.8, second), average yards per play allowed (4.66, second), red zone trips allowed (40, second), defensive touchdowns (five, tied for third), sacks (48, tied for fifth), total takeaways (27, sixth), opposing passer rating (83.0, seventh) and points per game allowed (19.4, eighth).

"Absolutely worth the wait," Stefanski said. "It's good to see when you're taking a coach from another team it's good to see that team having success. It was fun to watch those guys. They had an incredible season. Joe's impact on that defense was very real.

"I'm going to spend a lot of time with the offense but it doesn't mean I won't spend time with the defense. To be able to have somebody in there that I trust, that I know is a good coach is huge. Just sitting with him this past day and talking football, it just aligns with the vision with the type of defense we want to play. I think we've got a really good defensive coordinator."

Denver's defense didn't miss a beat after Woods took over for Wade Phillips as defensive coordinator in 2017. The 2017 Broncos finished third in the NFL in total defense and joined the Minnesota Vikings as the only two teams to rank in the top five in run defense (89.4 yards per game) and passing defense (200.6 yards per game) that season. Woods' defense also held each of their opponents to less than 300 net yards passing. In 2018, LB Von Miller and rookie LB Bradley Chubb combined for 26.5 sacks as Miller's 14.5 were the second-most in a single season in his career and Chubb's 12.0 set the Broncos franchise record for the most sacks by a rookie.

"It's good to be back in this role," Woods said. "I felt like I learned a lot from my time in Denver. It's really about managing people, game-planning and how to call a game, so I feel like I'm more prepared now than I was then.

"When you have pieces in place and with the additions we'll make in free agency and the draft, I feel like we can really get something accomplished here this next season."

Woods, who has experience coaching both 4-3 and 3-4 schemes, said he'll look to build a defense that best suits the team's personnel. Right now, that means the Browns will continue to operate out of a 4-3 base.

"I think you want to make sure that you're putting the guys that you have in the right position to make plays," Woods said. "I know the personnel here is tailored toward a 4-3 scheme, which I'm very comfortable with. We'll stay with the 4-3 system here and focus on putting the guys in the right positions to make plays."

Woods grew up outside Pittsburgh and has extended family in the Cleveland and Akron areas. He's lived the rivalry between the Steelers and Browns, and now he'll be tasked with coaching against his longtime mentor, Tomlin, twice a season.

That's just a small part of the excitement he carries into his new role as the leader of Cleveland's defense.

"When the Vikings hired Mike as the defensive coordinator in 2006, Mike wanted to bring Joe along as his defensive backs coach, which should tell you what kind of coach Joe is," Stefanski said. "Joe is somebody Mike trusts, they're very close to this day and I think Joe's looking forward to facing him two times a year."

Said Woods: "I know they're a division rival and I was on the other side of it my whole life because I grew up in Pittsburgh but now it's about business."
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/07/20 07:17 PM
Quote:
"I think you want to make sure that you're putting the guys that you have in the right position to make plays," Woods said. "I know the personnel here is tailored toward a 4-3 scheme, which I'm very comfortable with. We'll stay with the 4-3 system here and focus on putting the guys in the right positions to make plays."


A quote for the people who don't know that nickel is base.
Posted By: Bull_Dawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/07/20 08:26 PM
Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Originally Posted By: Bull_Dawg
When someone calls something "blatant lies" (Upon review it was "manufactured lies") that actually has some truth to it, I don't need a very fine scale.


rofl

So in your world making up a lie isn't a blatant act. Dude, you're really reaching here to make a point that doesn't exist.



Can you show me the lie?
Posted By: Bard Dawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/07/20 08:26 PM
Good news. Welcome, Coach Woods!!

Time to go to work. thumbsup
Posted By: mac Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/07/20 09:58 PM
Originally Posted By: Bard Dawg
Good news. Welcome, Coach Woods!!

Time to go to work. thumbsup


thumbsup
nanner
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/08/20 12:02 AM
Originally Posted By: mac
Originally Posted By: Bard Dawg
Good news. Welcome, Coach Woods!!

Time to go to work. thumbsup


thumbsup
nanner


I am sure he will first meet with Depo for some fine tuning. LOL.

Actually, I am glad he is signed and should shortly be in the building on a regular basis. I am sure at some point he will need a few days to sign on the sale of his old house and maybe help with the move to some degree.
Posted By: DeisleDawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/08/20 01:24 AM
Quote:
Defensive coordinator – Joe Woods
Defensive line – Chris Kiffin



I went to the 49er's site... Kiffin isn't on the coaching roster..but Woods is...lmbo...

You seem to be getting it right .. thumbsup
Posted By: SunDawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/08/20 02:10 PM
Glad Woods brought Kiffin with him ... maybe now we can develop a feared defensive line instead of the cream puff line we have watched for decades...
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/08/20 03:24 PM
Originally Posted By: SunDawg
Glad Woods brought Kiffin with him ... maybe now we can develop a feared defensive line instead of the cream puff line we have watched for decades...


I am sure Kiffin is a good coach, but line coaching is pretty standard. There are only so many moves a player can make. I think SF invested heavily in their D line....like three #1 picks.

If Derrick Brown falls to us, and he might, we best take him. With Garrett pressuring from the outside and a player like Brown crushing the middle, cream puffs no more.

DE's get most of the sacks but that usually happens when you have a player like Randy White or Reggie White in the middle of the line who demand the center double them.

Stopping the run requires a up the middle D. Sacking the QB in large numbers requires a solid up the middle pass rush.

Football and baseball are similar in that on D, you need to be solid up the middle. In baseball, your catcher, SS, 2nd, and CF have to be solid on D. You want them solid with the bat, but you can't have them weak on D. We have seen a lot of weak hitting middle infields, catchers and center outfielders because they won more games for the team with the glove than a good hitting player would at bat.

In football, you need to be stout at DT, MLB, and safety. If you do that, all the rest will fall in place.

That isn't to say outside players don't count or change games. I am simply saying the QB is at the center of the O, so you want his view to be facing a solid middle of the D.
Posted By: GratefulDawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/08/20 05:31 PM


Browns hire former Broncos QB coach T.C. McCartney as offensive assistant

By Mary Kay Cabot, cleveland.com
CLEVELAND, Ohio — Kevin Stefanski has hired former Broncos quarterback coach T.C. McCartney as an offensive assistant, a league source told cleveland.com.

McCartney was an offensive quality control coach for the Browns in 2014 under Kyle Shanahan.

McCartney was fired as quarterbacks coach by the Broncos at the end of the 2019 season, when they let his boss, offensive coordinator Rich Scangerello, go. But McCartney drew praise for his work with rookie quarterback Drew Lock, who went 4-1 at the end of the season, with victories over the Chargers, Texans, Lions and Raiders.

Lock threw seven touchdowns and three interceptions en route to a 89.7 rating. McCartney has also been a quality control coach for the 49ers (2015, 2017-18).

Scangarello interviewed with Stefanski for an offensive position, possibly offensive coordinator, and McCartney was a candidate to join him as quarterbacks coach. But the Browns ended up hiring Alex Van Pelt as offensive coordinator and Scangarello joined the Eagles as a senior offensive assistant.

Still, the Browns liked McCartney, and he’s already spent a week at the facility under Van Pelt, a former NFL quarterback who built his career coaching that position.

McCartney will likely assist with the Browns quarterbacks in addition to his other duties, meaning the Browns might not hire a specific quarterbacks coach. Stefanski, Van Pelt and McCartney will all work with Baker Mayfield, and Stefanski hasn’t yet determined who will call the plays.

Before joining Scangarello in Denver, McCartney spent two years with him in San Francisco, where they helped the 49ers rank 10th in passing yards during that time. McCartney has also worked at LSU and Colorado.
Posted By: GratefulDawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/08/20 05:36 PM
#Browns to hire Jason Tarver as LB coach, per league source. Formerly defensive coordinator at Vanderbilt.

https://twitter.com/ScottPetrak/status/1226197876843433991
Posted By: mac Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/08/20 06:33 PM
What happens with Fred Pagac?

Some reported he had been hired as the Browns LB coach...
Posted By: jfanent Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/08/20 07:42 PM
Otot
Originally Posted By: mac
What happens with Fred Pagac?

Some reported he had been hired as the Browns LB coach...


He was too football minded for Depodesta's liking. They wanted somebody more willing to base their decisions on analytics. smile
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/08/20 10:17 PM
Head coach - Kevin Stefanski
Chief of staff – Callie Brownson
Senior offensive assistant/offensive line – Bill Callahan
Offensive coordinator – Alex Van Pelt
Quarterbacks (and other stuff) - T.C. McCartney
Run game coordinator/running backs – Stump Mitchell
Wide receivers – Chad O'Shea
Tight ends – Drew Petzing
Assistant offensive line – ???
Offensive quality control – ???
Offensive quality control – ???

Defensive coordinator – Joe Woods
Defensive line – Chris Kiffin
Assistant defensive line – ???
Linebackers – Jason Tarver
Defensive backs/passing game coordinator – Jeff Howard
Senior defensive assistant – ???
Defensive quality control – ???
Defensive quality control – ???

Special teams coordinator – Mike Priefer
Assistant special teams – Doug Colma

Wade Phillips congratulated Fred Pagac on being hired by the Browns. My guess is that he’ll end up being the senior defense assistant.
Posted By: Versatile Dog Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/09/20 12:37 AM
Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
Quote:


Odell Beckham Jr. and Jarvis Landry want the ball, and they’ll be the first ones to shout it from atop the Terminal Tower.

The Browns star wide receivers want to win, too, but they believe their individual success is often necessary for team success.

There is no mind reading here. Beckham and Landry have publicly explained their philosophies many times.

Chad O’Shea obviously knows this.


Not one person questioned this. It's a manufactured lie, but that is how far so-called journalists have fallen.


I am going to reply to my own post because there is some Bull crap being thrown around.

I clearly said "manufactured lie" and not "blatant lie." Also, what I said was not over the top or a lie. Someone even asked where was the lie in what the reporter said.

Well, when you use a phrase like "...shout if from atop The Terminal Tower..." you are implying that these guys made it well-known that they were not getting the ball enough.

We have a lot of posters on here who like to post quotes from people. Can any of you great researchers make a list of all the times that Landry and OBJ complained to the media about not getting the ball enough? Can you give us examples of them refusing to block for RBS and other receivers?

I remember one incident where Landry yelled at Freddie and later said he wasn't getting the ball enough. One incident. Can someone please show us how this was an ongoing issue where they were complaining to the entire city of Cleveland about they wanted the ball more.

There was one player who mouthed off a lot in the press. But, his name wasn't OBJ or Jarvis Landry.

I'll be waiting for the numerous quotes of how often OBJ and Landry complained about not getting the ball this year.

One more thing................any player worth a damn wants the damn ball. Stefanski had to deal w/Diggs and Theilan complaining WAY MORE than OBJ and Landry about not getting the ball and how there were problems w/the offensive scheme. You think Michael Thomas doesn't want the ball? What about Julio? Did Jerry Rice want it? Do you think that Chubb doesn't want carries? What about Hunt? Does Baker believe he can pass us to wins?

Get freaking real!!! Good players want the ball. That does not make them a bad teammate and just an individual. I actually think both OBJ and Landry did an outstanding job of NOT COMPLAINING this year when you consider how inept the play calling and QB play was.
Posted By: mac Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/09/20 12:45 AM
Report: Browns to hire Fred Pagac as new LBs coach

Jeff Risdon
February 5, 2020 10:23 am ET
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A fresh report from Sirius XM NFL Radio’s Alex Marvez indicates the rumors of Fred Pagac joining the Cleveland Browns as the new LBs coach are expected to be made official. Pagac will join the staff under new head coach Kevin Stefanski and defensive coordinator Joe Woods, who also has yet to be officially hired.

Pagac (pronounced Pug-itch) worked with Woods in Denver from 2015-2017. He’s best known for his lengthy tenure as the LBs coach at Ohio State, where he worked for more than 30 seasons.

Pagac also has experience in several NFL stops, including Minnesota, Denver, Oakland and Buffalo. He does have coordinating experience.



Is he or isn't he?
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/09/20 12:48 AM
My guess is that he’s on staff but not the linebackers coach.
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/09/20 12:48 AM
Sir, this is a thread about assistant coaches.
Posted By: Swish Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/09/20 12:50 AM
hey bro can you give me the non-googled job description of a quality control coach?

i must admit, for years i never actually knew what they do.
Posted By: Versatile Dog Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/09/20 12:52 AM
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Sir, this is a thread about assistant coaches.


Translation: I could not find multiple quotes from OBJ and Landry telling everyone that they needed the ball more.
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/09/20 12:57 AM
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/sir-this-is-an-arbys
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/09/20 12:59 AM
Cut up film, make copies of playbooks, be a gofer for coaches, etc. Do the dirty work.
Posted By: jfanent Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/09/20 01:25 AM
Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Sir, this is a thread about assistant coaches.


Translation: I could not find multiple quotes from OBJ and Landry telling everyone that they needed the ball more.


Since we're off topic, have you picked a new team to root for yet?
Posted By: Bull_Dawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/09/20 02:05 AM
Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
Quote:


Odell Beckham Jr. and Jarvis Landry want the ball, and they’ll be the first ones to shout it from atop the Terminal Tower.

The Browns star wide receivers want to win, too, but they believe their individual success is often necessary for team success.

There is no mind reading here. Beckham and Landry have publicly explained their philosophies many times.

Chad O’Shea obviously knows this.


Not one person questioned this. It's a manufactured lie, but that is how far so-called journalists have fallen.


I am going to reply to my own post because there is some Bull crap being thrown around.

I clearly said "manufactured lie" and not "blatant lie." Also, what I said was not over the top or a lie. Someone even asked where was the lie in what the reporter said.

Well, when you use a phrase like "...shout if from atop The Terminal Tower..." you are implying that these guys made it well-known that they were not getting the ball enough.

We have a lot of posters on here who like to post quotes from people. Can any of you great researchers make a list of all the times that Landry and OBJ complained to the media about not getting the ball enough? Can you give us examples of them refusing to block for RBS and other receivers?

I remember one incident where Landry yelled at Freddie and later said he wasn't getting the ball enough. One incident. Can someone please show us how this was an ongoing issue where they were complaining to the entire city of Cleveland about they wanted the ball more.

There was one player who mouthed off a lot in the press. But, his name wasn't OBJ or Jarvis Landry.

I'll be waiting for the numerous quotes of how often OBJ and Landry complained about not getting the ball this year.

One more thing................any player worth a damn wants the damn ball. Stefanski had to deal w/Diggs and Theilan complaining WAY MORE than OBJ and Landry about not getting the ball and how there were problems w/the offensive scheme. You think Michael Thomas doesn't want the ball? What about Julio? Did Jerry Rice want it? Do you think that Chubb doesn't want carries? What about Hunt? Does Baker believe he can pass us to wins?

Get freaking real!!! Good players want the ball. That does not make them a bad teammate and just an individual. I actually think both OBJ and Landry did an outstanding job of NOT COMPLAINING this year when you consider how inept the play calling and QB play was.



No one said it was a bad thing. That was an interpretation you brought with you.

They want the ball and haven't been afraid to say it. They're very "media friendly" and not afraid to give a quote. I thought OBJ did a good job saying the right things in the media last season. They both had some sideline blowups, but the frustration was understandable.

It just kind of felt like you read the first couple lines of the article thinking they were going one direction, got revved up, and didn't read the rest of the article. Some people have a tendency to assume they know what people mean without actually reading everything those people write, and they add their own interpretation of what they think others mean with little to no basis.
Posted By: Bull_Dawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/09/20 02:16 AM
Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Sir, this is a thread about assistant coaches.


Translation: I could not find multiple quotes from OBJ and Landry telling everyone that they needed the ball more.


You asked for links less than 15 minutes ago.(from quoted post) It took you over a day and a half to point out a (kinda, sorta, maybe, probably not actually) lie, then walk it back by giving examples of when they did things that fit with the "lie."
Posted By: Bull_Dawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/09/20 02:35 AM
It's not a big deal, but it wasn't a "manufactured lie" either. (The whole intro about OBJ and Landry did present an awkward transition to the rest of the article)

Here's an article with multiple quotes from Landry talking about getting "13" and "80" the ball more just for you.

link

I won't post links to the sideline yelling because we're already far enough off topic.


So anyone have thoughts on Kiffin? I'm not sure what to think. He wasn't in SF long, and Bosa came to him well coached.
Posted By: Bard Dawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/09/20 12:17 PM
This man might well be our football guy. I welcome Fred if it proves to be true.

Some serious LB improvement would be welcomed.
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/09/20 12:21 PM
Originally Posted By: Bard Dawg
This man might well be our football guy. I welcome Fred if it proves to be true.

Some serious LB improvement would be welcomed.


I agree. I am just not sure how much coaching can improve that.

It can help, but it also takes talent at the position.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/09/20 04:20 PM
You yourself said it was a manufactured lie. Now there was no lie?
Posted By: Steubenvillian Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/09/20 05:16 PM
Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
Originally Posted By: Bard Dawg
This man might well be our football guy. I welcome Fred if it proves to be true.

Some serious LB improvement would be welcomed.


I agree. I am just not sure how much coaching can improve that.

It can help, but it also takes talent at the position.



I like Schobert, but I hope they get a thumper to play LB. When was the last time we had a guy at LB, that other teams had to plan for?
Posted By: W84NxtYrAgain Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/09/20 06:01 PM
y/c

I came to this thread to read about Browns assistant coach rumors. I avoid the threads whose titles are openings for arguments over things beyond the control of anyone on this board. Yet...
Posted By: eotab Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/09/20 06:08 PM
As long as she can do the job and well not only do it but do it well...I'm all for it. Don't know who she is to state one way or the other but all I ask is that she does her part in turning this franchise around.

I don't like women getting coaching jobs for some PC reason but if its the best for the job...I'm all for it!

jmho and I'm a chauvinist...lol laugh
Posted By: Bull_Dawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/09/20 06:12 PM
Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
You yourself said it was a manufactured lie. Now there was no lie?


No, no, I didn't. That was a nice try/lie right there, though. If at first your shown to be wrong, lie, lie again. That's your credo, right? Or just your modus operandi?

It's frustrating having to respond to this garbage when trying to find football discussion.


TC McCartney's backstory is interesting...sad, but interesting. His biological father died of inoperable cancer at 21, so he spent a good bit of time around his grandfather, Bill McCartney, who won a national championship at Colorado in 1990.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/09/20 06:16 PM
Originally Posted By: Bull_Dawg
No, no, I didn't. That was a nice try/lie right there, though. If at first your shown to be wrong, lie, lie again. That's your credo, right? Or just your modus operandi?

It's frustrating having to respond to this garbage when trying to find football discussion.


Yet here you are. In the middle of it using personal attacks. Doesn't make you sound as smart as you think you are does it?
Posted By: WSU Willie Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/09/20 06:59 PM
Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Yet here you are. In the middle of it using personal attacks. Doesn't make you sound as smart as you think you are does it?


Have you noticed how many different people you get into spats with? It's rather remarkable.

You complaining about personal attacks - real or imagined - is laughable.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/09/20 07:11 PM
You have me confused with someone who gives a damn. I don't roll over and play dead. That sounds like a you problem.

BTW- I wasn't complaining about it. I've learned to expect it. I was merely pointing out that someone who acts as though they're above that sort of thing really aren't.
Posted By: Bull_Dawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/09/20 07:22 PM
Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Originally Posted By: Bull_Dawg
No, no, I didn't. That was a nice try/lie right there, though. If at first your shown to be wrong, lie, lie again. That's your credo, right? Or just your modus operandi?

It's frustrating having to respond to this garbage when trying to find football discussion.


Yet here you are. In the middle of it using personal attacks. Doesn't make you sound as smart as you think you are does it?


If I were trying to sound smart, I'd hang out with the Browns' FO and new HC more. Unfortunately, I hang around with you, so I sound hounded and frustrated. I know I should keep better company, but I continue to hold out hope that you'll change for the better if I keep kindly pointing out your faults. rofl

I'm a Browns' fan. I'd be nothing without hope.


Any word on Pagac yet? I keep checking.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/09/20 07:32 PM
Originally Posted By: Bull_Dawg
If I were trying to sound smart, I'd hang out with the Browns' FO and new HC more. Unfortunately, I hang around with you, so I sound hounded and frustrated. I know I should keep better company, but I continue to hold out hope that you'll change for the better if I keep kindly pointing out your faults.


Ah, rationalizations and excuses for poor behavior. I thought you would be more original than that. Obviously I overestimated your skill set.
Posted By: bbrowns32 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/09/20 07:42 PM
Originally Posted By: Bull_Dawg
If at first your shown to be wrong, lie, lie again...It's frustrating having to respond to this garbage ...


Why don't you just tear up his speech? (In my best Nancy Pelosi representation).
Well I see dawgtalkers hasn’t changed much...
Posted By: Bard Dawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/09/20 10:24 PM
"Bam-Bam"? I don't know that answer. I want Schobert here, but a thumper will make him better. He has done well, but he isn't good enough to carry the D himself. Plays catch up ball later in plays.

I expected FP's sets and schemed stunts to help our LB play. Hope against hope.
Posted By: Dave Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/09/20 11:01 PM
Quote:
When was the last time we had a guy at LB, that other teams had to plan for?


At MLB/ILB, our last "thumper" might be Eddie (The Assassin) Johnson or Robert L (Stonewall) Jackson. The Browns always seemed to prefer finesse guys at that spot, like Tom Cousineau, Mike Johnson (who was very good) back in the day, or Joe Schobert, more recently. I would like to have seen Genard Avery get a shot at that inside LB spot.
Posted By: lampdogg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/10/20 12:37 AM
Originally Posted By: CleVeLaNd_sTrife
Well I see dawgtalkers hasn’t changed much...


Lol strife, did you really think it would? wink
Posted By: jfanent Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/10/20 01:49 AM
Originally Posted By: Dave
Quote:
When was the last time we had a guy at LB, that other teams had to plan for?


At MLB/ILB, our last "thumper" might be Eddie (The Assassin) Johnson or Robert L (Stonewall) Jackson. The Browns always seemed to prefer finesse guys at that spot, like Tom Cousineau, Mike Johnson (who was very good) back in the day, or Joe Schobert, more recently. I would like to have seen Genard Avery get a shot at that inside LB spot.


Chip Banks....and more recently Jamir Miller.
Posted By: Bull_Dawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/10/20 02:14 AM
Originally Posted By: jfanent
Originally Posted By: Dave
Quote:
When was the last time we had a guy at LB, that other teams had to plan for?


At MLB/ILB, our last "thumper" might be Eddie (The Assassin) Johnson or Robert L (Stonewall) Jackson. The Browns always seemed to prefer finesse guys at that spot, like Tom Cousineau, Mike Johnson (who was very good) back in the day, or Joe Schobert, more recently. I would like to have seen Genard Avery get a shot at that inside LB spot.


Chip Banks....and more recently Jamir Miller.


Hopefully if we look for a thumper, we find someone that works out better than David Veikune and Beau Bell.

Maybe Takitaki can become that guy.
Posted By: Versatile Dog Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/10/20 02:22 AM
Sir, this is an Assistant Coach thread.

PS: No one will "like" this post. LOL
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/10/20 11:07 AM
Seems we have a few more hires to make. I have been watching for news. So far it looks like we are getting solid guys, but we say that every time.

I just have to go by what I read on most of them. I can't say I know much about any of them except maybe Callahan.
Posted By: GratefulDawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/11/20 01:22 PM
Alex Van Pelt sees 'great opportunity' as Browns offensive coordinator

https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/ale...ive-coordinator

The early meetings have already stirred the excitement inside new Browns offensive coordinator Alex Van Pelt. Watching film of the key players who will play the biggest roles in 2020 and beyond elevate it even more.

Van Pelt is already hard at work with head coach Kevin Stefanski and the experienced coaches who surround them in all directions as the Browns look to bring the best out of the talent they have at a number of offensive positions.

"To have the opportunity to come in and help build an offense from the ground up is exciting," Van Pelt said. "There are starting points, but to get to work with those guys and have Kevin in there just kind of make it our offense from Day 1 is pretty cool. The most important thing now is to get this system in place and make it as easy and friendly for the players so we can get off the ground and start rolling.

"You understand the passion of the Browns fans and the toughness of the city and the grittiness of the city. That's obviously appealing. Having the opportunity to come here and work for the Haslams and to have the talent that's here right now on board with the offense is a great opportunity."

Van Pelt, after two seasons as quarterbacks coach in Cincinnati, knows the personnel well after squaring off with the Browns four times in the last two years. And with 15 years of experience coaching quarterbacks, running backs and wide receivers -- on top of the decade he logged as an NFL player -- Van Pelt brings the kind of diverse skill set to the position Stefanski -- a versatile, experienced offensive coach himself -- knew he wanted when he took the reins as head coach of the Browns.

"We were looking for a guy that could come in here and really work together with the offensive staff that's in place, work with me as we all talk about our vision for what we want our offense to look like," Stefanski said. "Just be able to bring this all together, be able to take the great ideas from the offensive staff and mold this thing into the Browns offense, Browns system."

Van Pelt broke a number of Dan Marino's records during his playing days at the University of Pittsburgh and became only the fifth collegiate player to throw for 2,000 yards in four consecutive seasons. It was there where Van Pelt got his first taste of West Coast offense principles under coach Paul Hackett, a former Browns offensive coordinator (1981-82) who later worked under legendary 49ers coach Bill Walsh.

An eighth-round pick by his hometown Steelers in the 1993 NFL Draft, Van Pelt later signed with the Buffalo Bills and found a home as both a player and coach. Van Pelt backed up Hall of Famer Jim Kelly at the start of his career and did the same for a number of others from 1995-2003. He appeared in 31 games and made 11 starts, eight of which came during the 2001 season.


"I think so highly of Alex from that regard because he played the position at a high level collegiately and in the pros," Stefanski said. "When you're a backup quarterback, there's so much that goes into that from a preparation standpoint. It's no surprise then that a lot of those guys become great coaches because they understand what it takes to prepare for an NFL game from that position when you're not getting any reps oftentimes. I just think that's made him a better coach."

Van Pelt spent two years in Buffalo after his playing career as a radio analyst before heading overseas in 2005 to coach the quarterbacks and call plays for the Frankfurt Galaxy (NFL Europe). He returned to Buffalo one year later to join the Bills' staff in 2006 as a volunteer assistant. He quickly rose the ranks from there, going from a quality control coach to quarterbacks coach (2008) before taking over as offensive coordinator in 2009.

After two years as the quarterbacks coach in Tampa Bay, Van Pelt got the opportunity to diversify his coaching resume as the running backs coach in Green Bay. Working under Mike McCarthy, who was a graduate assistant at Pitt during Van Pelt's playing days, Van Pelt got to know the intricacies of a new position for two seasons before shifting to quarterbacks coach in 2014.

"It's definitely helped. There's no question," Van Pelt said. "That was a great opportunity for me to learn more about offensive football and how the running back mind thinks. That was huge and beneficial. Also, he allowed me to coach receivers for a year when I was coaching the quarterbacks. To have that group in the room, it broadens your perspective of offensive football."

Van Pelt, of course, worked closely with Aaron Rodgers as quarterbacks coach from 2014-17, a stretch in which Rodgers completed 64 percent of his passes for 14,305 yards, 125 touchdowns and just 26 interceptions. In 2016, Rodgers led the NFL with 40 touchdown passes and became just the second QB in NFL history (Tom Brady, 2015) to post 600-plus attempts and seven or fewer INTs in a season. Rodgers was named NFL MVP in 2014 after totaling 4,381 passing yards, 38 touchdowns, five interceptions and a 112.2 rating.

"As much as we worked together, I probably learned just as much from him as I was able to teach him," Van Pelt said. "Just having those experiences with an elite player and being able to work side by side with him every day has helped me so much as a coach."

Van Pelt's two seasons in Cincinnati tasked him to work with a veteran (Andy Dalton) and multiple players at the early stages of their respective careers (Jeff Driskel, Ryan Finley). He embraced both sides of the challenge and is chomping at the bit to work with Baker Mayfield, who will enter his third NFL season in 2020.

"I evaluated him as a QBs coach for the draft and I was obviously impressed," Van Pelt said. "Playing against him for the last two years, you see the type of competitor he is, the type of player he is on the field, loves the game, plays it with passion, those are all the things you're looking for in a great player."


The players around Mayfield draw a similar response from Van Pelt, who inherits an offense that produced two 1,000-yard wide receivers (Jarvis Landry and Odell Beckham Jr.) and an 1,000-yard running back (Nick Chubb) in the same season for the first time in franchise history. Van Pelt sees those players' respective skill sets meshing well with what the Browns want to do on offense under his watch.

"It all starts with the run game and the play-action off it and the keepers that come off from the action," Van Pelt said. "Obviously having Nick is huge and Kareem (Hunt), those two are two of the best in the league. The outside receivers are tremendous players. To be able to come in and put an offense together with two 1,000 yard receivers and a 1,400 yard rusher is pretty exciting as a coach."

Months remain before those players will have a shot at compiling yards in 2020. The work is just beginning, and Van Pelt will be a main figure in the collective effort to rejuvenate the Browns' offensive attack.

"I think his work with the different guys he's had over his career is very impressive," Stefanski said. "Just like me, he's been in a ton of different systems. There's a really fun discussion when we put up a play and say, 'what'd you call this or how'd you teach this?'

"I think we're really trying to get to the bottom of how we want to run the Browns system next year."

Alex Van Pelt's NFL Playing Background:
1995-2003 Buffalo Bills, quarterback

Alex Van Pelt's Coaching Background:

2005: Frankfurt Galaxy, quarterbacks coach
2005: Buffalo Bills, volunteer offensive quality control coach
2006: University at Buffalo, quarterbacks/passing game coordinator
2006-07: Buffalo Bills, offensive quality control coach
2008-09: Buffalo Bills, quarterbacks coach
2009: Buffalo Bills, offensive coordinator
2010-11: Tampa Bay Buccaneers, quarterbacks coach
2012-13: Green Bay Packers, running backs coach
2014: Green Bay Packers, quarterbacks coach
2015: Green Bay Packers, quarterbacks/wide receivers coach
2016-17: Green Bay Packers, quarterbacks coach
2018-19: Cincinnati Bengals, quarterbacks coach
2020: Cleveland Browns, offensive coordinator
Posted By: GratefulDawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/11/20 01:24 PM
Mike Priefer has 'unfinished business' entering 2nd season as Browns special teams coordinator

https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/mik...s-special-teams

Mike Priefer got the Browns special teams units collectively headed in the right direction in a much-improved 2019 campaign.

It just didn't meet the standard he expects as a longtime special teams coordinator.

"We have some work to do, some unfinished business," Priefer said. "That's what the opportunity to come back is going to provide for us to do, to finish that business."

Priefer and assistant special teams coach Doug Colman are back for a second season in Cleveland, joining run game coordinator/running backs coach Stump Mitchell as the three retained coaches from the 2019 staff. Priefer, who grew up in Cleveland, wanted to return no matter who was hired as head coach. That the Browns went with Kevin Stefanski, whom he coached alongside from 2011-18 in Minnesota, made coming back even more rewarding for Priefer, who is entering his 15th consecutive season as an NFL special teams coordinator.

"I've seen him grow as a coach from being a quality control coach to being a running backs, tight ends, quarterbacks and then offensive coordinator. I've seen his growth," Priefer said. "I knew from the get-go he was going to be a very good coach as he kind of gained experience. Obviously he had that head coaching mentality about him. He's got that charisma about him, he's got leadership and he's going to do a great job for us here."

Cleveland's special teams made significant improvements in nearly every facet of the game under Priefer's watch in 2019.

The Browns were among the best in the league at covering kicks, ranking fifth in the NFL in average yards allowed per kickoff and sixth overall in kickoff return yards. On punts, the Browns went from 30th in the league to 17th. Cleveland was among the best in the league in tackles inside the 20-yard line and average starting field position after kickoffs.

The improvements stemmed from the strong directional kicking of rookie Austin Seibert, better tackling from core players such as KhaDarel Hodge, Tavierre Thomas and Tae Davis and a significant decrease in penalties. The Browns went from one of the most penalized special teams units in 2018 to middle of the pack in 2019.


"There's a lot of improvements in a lot of different areas if we continue to bring young men in here that love the game of football and like playing special teams," Priefer said. "There's unique people who play that. You have to have something wrong with you if you're going to go cover a kickoff or punt and people say you have to have something wrong with you if you're going to coach special teams, so it goes hand in hand. I'm excited about our future."

Priefer had both the present and future in mind when he entered the 2019 season with rookies at both punter and kicker. Both Seibert and Jamie Gillan proved worthy of their selections to the 53-man roster and finished the season on the Pro Football Writers of America All-Rookie Team.

Gillan, an undrafted free agent who hails from Scotland, was named the AFC's Special Teams Player of the Month in September and set the Browns' single-season record for net punting (41.6 average). He finished tied for fifth in team history with 28 punts placed inside the 20-yard line and had just five of his 63 punts go for touchbacks.

Seibert, a fifth-round pick out of Oklahoma, made 25-of-29 field goals, set a Browns rookie scoring record with 105 points and opened his career with 16 consecutive makes, a streak that ranked fourth in NFL history.

"They will get better," Priefer said. "The thing I've told them is they've made a big mistake. You have proved you can do it and now we're going to expect you to do it more often and be more consistent and be more productive. We left some points on the field with Austin and we left some big plays on the field with our punter.

"The good thing is they've made enough plays to encourage you to say, you know what, they can do it. It's there. It's in them. Now we've got to continue to improve our technique, be more consistent and be a more productive unit across the board."

Priefer expects to see improvements on kick return and punt return in 2020. The Browns ranked 16th in the NFL on punt returns and 20th on kickoffs. Cleveland used four different returners on both punts and kicks.

"At the end of the day, I think we need to hold up better, hold up on punt return better, protect with our drops better on kickoff return," Priefer said. "We have to have more production from our returners. We left some yards on the table, whether it was not hitting the seam right or going down too easy on an arm tackle. Those are the areas we want to improve on."


Stefanski knows from experience to expect Priefer to meet his goals in 2020 and beyond.

While they coached together in Minnesota, Priefer's unit led the NFL with 14 special teams touchdowns. The team scored on seven kickoff returns, five punt returns and two touchdowns off blocked punts. The Vikings led the NFL in kickoff return average in 2015 (28.3) and 2016 (27.3) and finished second in 2011 (27.2). His units also led the league in punt return average in 2013 (15.2) and finished second in the league in total kick return yards in 2014 (1,981) and 2015 (1,540).

"It's been awesome to be back with Coach Prief," Stefanski said. "He's somebody on a personal level I have a great deal of respect for. Great family man. I couldn't be more thrilled to be back in the fray with him. I've seen him coach. I've seen his units play really well. It's exciting to be back around Coach Prief."

Mike Priefer's Coaching Background:
1994-96: U.S. Naval Academy, graduate assistant
1997-98: Youngstown State University, offensive tackles/tight ends/special teams
1999: Virginia Military Institute, inside linebackers/special teams
2000-01: Northern Illinois University, defensive tackles/special teams
2002: Jacksonville Jaguars, assistant special teams
2003-05: New York Giants, assistant special teams
2006-08: Kansas City Chiefs, special teams coordinator
2009-10: Denver Broncos, special teams coordinator
2011-18: Minnesota Vikings, special teams coordinator
2019-: Cleveland Browns, special teams coordinator
Posted By: Bard Dawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/11/20 01:39 PM
Good to read. Hope it continues to improve, especially some of the punt returns. We need to raise the bar and get consistency in performance.

Liked what I read. Best of luck, coach! thumbsup
Posted By: MemphisBrownie Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/11/20 06:00 PM
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/11/20 06:02 PM
Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie


https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/jef...ive-backs-coach

This is the slowest rollout of a coaching staff I have ever seen. Most of these guys we have known about for weeks. It means nothing but I am impatient and want to know now.
Posted By: Rishuz Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/11/20 06:15 PM
None of it will matter.
Posted By: Milk Man Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/11/20 06:21 PM
Zegura said yesterday on CBD, he expects Fred Pagac to join the defensive staff in senior advisory role.

If I heard Zegura correctly, the coaching staff was in Berea all having lunch at the cafeteria. He was not even sure why it's been so slow to make the hires official, but expects everything to be official by the end of the week.
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/11/20 06:27 PM
Originally Posted By: Milk Man
Zegura said yesterday on CBD, he expects Fred Pagac to join the defensive staff in senior advisory role.


He must be reading my posts.
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/11/20 06:27 PM
Originally Posted By: Rishuz
None of it will matter.


Just let us be idiots without bringing us down!
Posted By: Bull_Dawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/11/20 06:29 PM
Originally Posted By: Rishuz
None of it will matter.


All of it will matter. For good or bad is yet to be determined.
Posted By: Bull_Dawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/11/20 06:33 PM
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie


https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/jef...ive-backs-coach

This is the slowest rollout of a coaching staff I have ever seen. Most of these guys we have known about for weeks. It means nothing but I am impatient and want to know now.


Hopefully it's just contract details and solidifying responsibilities and plans. Instead of just hiring the first name to come along, actually working together on how they're going to actually do the job. I can dream, right?

Still, I'm definitely feeling impatient, too.
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/12/20 03:55 PM
It just dawned on me....Chris Kiffin, our DL coach is the son of Monte Kiffin….long time NFL DC, and the father of the Tampa 2.

He had good coaching as a kid along with brother Lane.
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/12/20 05:10 PM
Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
It just dawned on me....Chris Kiffin, our DL coach is the son of Monte Kiffin….long time NFL DC, and the father of the Tampa 2.

He had good coaching as a kid along with brother Lane.


Who knew Sherlock Holmes was on this board?
Posted By: MemphisBrownie Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/12/20 05:15 PM
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
It just dawned on me....Chris Kiffin, our DL coach is the son of Monte Kiffin….long time NFL DC, and the father of the Tampa 2.

He had good coaching as a kid along with brother Lane.


Who knew Sherlock Holmes was on this board?


As long as it isn't Lane.
Posted By: PrplPplEater Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/12/20 08:22 PM
Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
It just dawned on me....Chris Kiffin, our DL coach is the son of Monte Kiffin….long time NFL DC, and the father of the Tampa 2.

He had good coaching as a kid along with brother Lane.


Who knew Sherlock Holmes was on this board?


As long as it isn't Lane.


Unless it's Lane Meyer, then we're totally covered.. especially if we need someone to ski the K-12.
Posted By: Milk Man Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/13/20 07:13 PM
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Head coach - Kevin Stefanski
Chief of staff – Callie Brownson
Senior offensive assistant/offensive line – Bill Callahan
Offensive coordinator – Alex Van Pelt
Quarterbacks (and other stuff) - T.C. McCartney
Run game coordinator/running backs – Stump Mitchell
Wide receivers – Chad O'Shea
Tight ends – Drew Petzing
Assistant offensive line – ???
Offensive quality control – ???
Offensive quality control – ???

Defensive coordinator – Joe Woods
Defensive line – Chris Kiffin
Assistant defensive line – ???
Linebackers – Jason Tarver
Defensive backs/passing game coordinator – Jeff Howard
Senior defensive assistant – ???
Defensive quality control – ???
Defensive quality control – ???

Special teams coordinator – Mike Priefer
Assistant special teams – Doug Colma

Wade Phillips congratulated Fred Pagac on being hired by the Browns. My guess is that he’ll end up being the senior defense assistant.


Add Scott Peters to the list...

Posted By: Milk Man Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/13/20 07:15 PM
Posted By: Milk Man Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/13/20 07:16 PM
Posted By: Milk Man Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/13/20 07:18 PM
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/13/20 09:13 PM

Head coach - Kevin Stefanski
Chief of staff – Callie Brownson
Senior offensive assistant/offensive line – Bill Callahan
Offensive coordinator – Alex Van Pelt
Offensive assistant - T.C. McCartney
Run game coordinator/running backs – Stump Mitchell
Wide receivers – Chad O'Shea
Tight ends – Drew Petzing
Assistant offensive line – Scott Peters
Offensive quality control – ???
Offensive quality control – ???

Defensive coordinator – Joe Woods
Defensive line – Chris Kiffin
Assistant defensive line – ???
Linebackers – Jason Tarver
Defensive backs/passing game coordinator – Jeff Howard
Senior defensive assistant – ???
Defensive quality control – ???
Defensive quality control – ???

Special teams coordinator – Mike Priefer
Assistant special teams – Doug Colma
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/13/20 09:16 PM
Excuse me?

Quote:
Since he retired from the NFL in 2008, Peters has opened an MMA gym, won multiple Brazilian Jiu Jitsu world championships and launched "Tip of the Spear," a proprietary instructional training and skill development system for football coaches and players. Now, Peters is tackling a new challenge in his first full-time NFL coaching gig, where he'll work alongside the Browns' most experienced leader, offensive line coach Bill Callahan.


https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/scott-peters-named-browns-assistant-offensive-line-coach
Posted By: Milk Man Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/13/20 09:18 PM
It seems like this is the 5th or 6th time the Browns have brought in some form of MMA fighter to teach hand techniques.
Posted By: W84NxtYrAgain Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/13/20 09:40 PM
Scott Peters Wiki page

From the page, "While on the giants he was criticized for calling the NFLPA on Tom Coughlin for making the practices too hard."
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/13/20 09:49 PM
Originally Posted By: W84NxtYrAgain
Scott Peters Wiki page

From the page, "While on the giants he was criticized for calling the NFLPA on Tom Coughlin for making the practices too hard."


Tom Coughlin recently got bopped by the NFL for doing something similar. This is a Tom Coughlin problem not a Scott Peters problem.
Posted By: W84NxtYrAgain Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/13/20 09:53 PM
Thanks
Posted By: Bull_Dawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/13/20 11:05 PM
Originally Posted By: Milk Man
It seems like this is the 5th or 6th time the Browns have brought in some form of MMA fighter to teach hand techniques.


I thought we usually did it on defense, though. Not that it couldn't potentially help on O, just a bit different. Hopefully his teaching translates.
Posted By: Hamfist Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/13/20 11:50 PM
Originally Posted By: PrplPplEater
Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
It just dawned on me....Chris Kiffin, our DL coach is the son of Monte Kiffin….long time NFL DC, and the father of the Tampa 2.

He had good coaching as a kid along with brother Lane.


Who knew Sherlock Holmes was on this board?


As long as it isn't Lane.


Unless it's Lane Meyer, then we're totally covered.. especially if we need someone to ski the K-12.


Lol. Great movie.
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/13/20 11:53 PM
Originally Posted By: Bull_Dawg
Originally Posted By: Milk Man
It seems like this is the 5th or 6th time the Browns have brought in some form of MMA fighter to teach hand techniques.


I thought we usually did it on defense, though. Not that it couldn't potentially help on O, just a bit different. Hopefully his teaching translates.



As one who has studied Judo for over 40 years, hand fighting is a big key if on the defense or offense. Maintain inside leverage.

Get outside of your shoulders and you lose your strength.

If they push, you extend, if they pull, you go down and lower the shoulder and pull down.


Stay inside. You can throw from there.
Posted By: Versatile Dog Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/13/20 11:55 PM
j/c:

Can you imagine playing for the Browns and having to deal w/multiple new coaches almost every freaking year?

Hell, can you imagine being a fan of the team and listening to same positive spin year after year and then have to deal w/hearing how crappy those guys actually were?

And good to hear Peters who fits the mold of "guys who want to work together." sick
Posted By: BCbrownie Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/14/20 12:26 AM
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Excuse me?

Quote:
Since he retired from the NFL in 2008, Peters has opened an MMA gym, won multiple Brazilian Jiu Jitsu world championships and launched "Tip of the Spear," a proprietary instructional training and skill development system for football coaches and players. Now, Peters is tackling a new challenge in his first full-time NFL coaching gig, where he'll work alongside the Browns' most experienced leader, offensive line coach Bill Callahan.



https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/scott-peters-named-browns-assistant-offensive-line-coach



Too bad he's not on the D-line.He could teach Garrett how to properly use a helmet as a weapon.
Posted By: Rishuz Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/14/20 12:58 AM
Originally Posted By: Milk Man
It seems like this is the 5th or 6th time the Browns have brought in some form of MMA fighter to teach hand techniques.


On a seriousness note, Myles Garrett may be the worst hand fighter of all elite rushers in the league. He improved last year but still has a long way to go. Once engaged he's pretty much a non factor.

On a lighter note, maybe all the MMA training led Myles to forget where he was when Mason Maddog Rudolph charged him.
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/14/20 11:12 AM
Lets hire Stipe Miocic. He's a local guy and he is pretty good.
Posted By: PETE314 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/14/20 12:34 PM
Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
Lets hire Stipe Miocic. He's a local guy and he is pretty good.
Doesn't Garrett already works out with Stipe???
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/15/20 03:14 PM
You might be right.
Posted By: Milk Man Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/19/20 02:06 AM
j/c...

Jim Donovan's interview with Callie Brownson...

Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/19/20 04:28 AM
Head coach - Kevin Stefanski
Chief of staff – Callie Brownson
Senior offensive assistant/offensive line – Bill Callahan
Offensive coordinator – Alex Van Pelt
Offensive assistant - T.C. McCartney
Run game coordinator/running backs – Stump Mitchell
Wide receivers – Chad O'Shea
Tight ends – Drew Petzing
Assistant offensive line – Scott Peters
Offensive quality control – ???
Offensive quality control – ???

Defensive coordinator – Joe Woods
Defensive line – Chris Kiffin
Assistant defensive line – ???
Linebackers – Jason Tarver
Defensive backs/passing game coordinator – Jeff Howard
Senior defensive assistant – Ben Bloom
Defensive quality control – ???
Defensive quality control – ???

Special teams coordinator – Mike Priefer
Assistant special teams – Doug Colma

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/02...-assistant.html
Posted By: FATE Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/19/20 05:40 AM
Originally Posted By: Milk Man
j/c...

Jim Donovan's interview with Callie Brownson...


She's intelligent and very well spoken. Definitely no lack of passion in how she expresses her love for the game. Still have no freakin' clue what her job is but I suspect she'll do well... Doesn't seem like failure is in her DNA.
Posted By: Halfback32 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/19/20 03:31 PM
Browns hire Ben Bloom as senior defensive assistant
Charean Williams
ProFootball Talk on NBC SportsFebruary 18, 2020, 6:43 PM EST

The Browns are expected to hire former Cowboys assistant coach Ben Bloom as a senior defensive assistant, Adam Caplan of SiriusXM NFL Radio reports.

Bloom returns to Cleveland after nine seasons in Dallas.

He got his NFL start with the Browns, going to Cleveland in 2009 as an assistant defense/quality control coach. In 2010, Bloom earned a promotion to defensive assistant. He helped prepare the team’s defense during practice and broke down film for upcoming opponents.

Bloom worked with Matt Eberflus in Cleveland and, in 2011, he followed Eberflus to Dallas as defensive quality control coach and assistant linebackers coach.

Bloom moved to the defensive line in 2014 and worked specifically with the defensive ends in 2015.

A year later, Bloom assumed the role as the club’s assistant coach/special projects. He advised head coach Jason Garrett on game plan matchups and schemes and personnel group strategies.

Bloom spent the past two seasons as the linebackers coach but was let go when the Cowboys moved on from Garrett.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/browns-hire-ben-bloom-senior-234351238.html
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/19/20 04:49 PM
Head coach - Kevin Stefanski
Offensive coordinator – Alex Van Pelt
Offensive line – Bill Callahan
Offensive assistant - T.C. McCartney
Run game coordinator/running backs – Stump Mitchell
Passing game coordinator/Wide receivers – Chad O'Shea
Tight ends – Drew Petzing
Assistant offensive line – Scott Peters
Offensive quality control – Seitu Smith
Coaching assistant - Ryan Cordell
Chief of staff – Callie Brownson

Defensive coordinator – Joe Woods
Defensive line – Chris Kiffin
Assistant defensive line – Jeremy Garrett
Linebackers – Jason Tarver
Defensive backs/passing game coordinator – Jeff Howard
Assistant defensive backs - Brandon Lynch
Senior defensive assistant – Ben Bloom
Defensive quality control – Stephen Bravo-Brown

Special teams coordinator – Mike Priefer
Assistant special teams – Doug Colma

https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/browns-2020-coaching-staff

I think we can probably lock this thread. The staff is complete.
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/19/20 04:55 PM
Quote:
Stefanski was asked about [minority coaches] during his introductory press conference, and what he could do to address it.

“I am glad you asked that because it is important, and I am going to do everything in my power and my role to effect change there,” Stefanski said. “It is something that I brought up when I met with Dee and Jimmy (Haslam) last year, and it is important to me that we develop minority coaches, particularly on the offensive side of the ball."

Only five black head coaches in NFL history have come from an offensive background. Stefanski pointed out how last year in Minnesota he hired two offensive quality control coaches who are black, and implied he could do something similar with the Browns.

“That is the way that I can effect that change,” he said.


https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/01...ad-coaches.html

Seith Smith and T.C. McCartney are both black coaches on the offensive side of the ball. Good on Kevin Stefanski for keeping his word.
Posted By: Milk Man Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/19/20 05:03 PM
j/c...

Browns assistant coaches are meeting with the media today.

Mike Priefer at the podium now...

Posted By: Milk Man Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/19/20 05:20 PM
Alex Van Pelt now at the podium...

Posted By: Milk Man Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/19/20 05:25 PM
Posted By: Milk Man Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/19/20 05:26 PM
Posted By: Milk Man Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/19/20 05:28 PM
Posted By: Milk Man Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/19/20 05:30 PM
Posted By: Milk Man Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/19/20 05:32 PM
Posted By: Milk Man Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/19/20 05:34 PM
Posted By: Milk Man Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/19/20 05:39 PM
Joe Woods at the podium...

Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/19/20 05:41 PM
Originally Posted By: Milk Man


Quote:
“I do not need somebody to teach me how to do a three-step drop,” Mayfield said.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...ith-a-qb-tutor/
Posted By: CapCity Dawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/19/20 05:41 PM
Originally Posted By: Milk Man


Mozart was trash once flushed out of the pocket.
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/19/20 05:43 PM
Posted By: Milk Man Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/19/20 05:46 PM
Look up. Beat you to it!
Posted By: Milk Man Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/19/20 05:50 PM
Posted By: Versatile Dog Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/19/20 06:07 PM
Originally Posted By: Milk Man


I hope Baker doesn't call him a "broom sweeper." And Baker has already said he doesn't need help w/his footwork and knows how to take a 3-step drop.
Posted By: eotab Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/19/20 06:16 PM
Why are you posting something stated in December as if it is in a response to what Van Pelt stated in February.

tsktsk
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/19/20 06:18 PM
I posted exactly what Baker had to say about being coached on his three step drop. I know you may not like that but is what Baker had to say about not very long ago.
Posted By: PrplPplEater Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/19/20 06:19 PM
Originally Posted By: CapCity Dawg
Originally Posted By: Milk Man


Mozart was trash once flushed out of the pocket.


Metallica became who they are by studying the likes of Mozart.
Posted By: Dave Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/19/20 06:22 PM
Who's this "Mozart"? I never heard of them. Must be a 90's band.
Posted By: oobernoober Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/19/20 06:43 PM
Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
Originally Posted By: Milk Man


I hope Baker doesn't call him a "broom sweeper." And Baker has already said he doesn't need help w/his footwork and knows how to take a 3-step drop.


I get what you're inferring (that Baker won't accept the coaching he's been given). Honestly, Baker's quotes (there were more last season) were the first thing I thought of as well. I do think, however, that he will change his tune when is QB coach and OC come to him with this stuff. While I'm not a fan of Baker's attitude on this topic, I think this whole issue is more an indictment of the previous coaching staff, at the end of the day.
Posted By: eotab Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/19/20 06:59 PM
See you do think it is his answer to Alex our new OC it is not it is what he stated when he was PO'd with losing and having reporters telling him.

He has always...ALWAYS been coachable and I don't see any substance to this, except someone that was frustrated at the time. Let me know when you get actual news. What does he do???

Just like somebody on this board was calling him a drunk... tsktsk
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/19/20 07:05 PM
Your anger may be better served directed at the idiot that made the statement instead of me. I know what Baker said about being coached on the three step drop. All your blathering doesn't change that.
Posted By: Steubenvillian Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/19/20 07:23 PM
Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Your anger may be better served directed at the idiot that made the statement instead of me. I know what Baker said about being coached on the three step drop. All your blathering doesn't change that.


Pit, I get what you are saying. I remember him saying it and the tone he used. I know Vers was on this too. I think the question is now, will he change his tune after being the worst QB in the league. That, IMO, will be the test of who he really is. I think if he swallows a humble pill and let's these guys teach him, he can end up being very good.

I know people like him, or at least as he appears to many. They are convinced that they don't need anybody but them selves to achieve a goal. Arrogance can make a fool out of anybody. Let's hope he realizes this is the big time, and you better take any help available.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/19/20 07:35 PM
Well this quote was from December 27th of 2019. Two days before our final game. So I think the evidence was pretty much in on how he was performing as a QB.

Now there was a statement he made about working with a QB expert like Tom House at the end of the 20018 season where he called guys like House "broom sweepers". Even though many great QB's have worked with people like House during the off season. So I guess how I could see a personality such as himself feeling exactly as you described.

So unless he had an epiphany in the past two months, his comment in regards to his three step drop would be a very recent comment to indicate how he feels.
Posted By: Steubenvillian Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/19/20 07:42 PM
IMO, it is time to put up or shut up for him. Many guys come into the league and have a good year, then when teams get their film, they are done. I hope he realizes that last year belonged to him, and he faltered. Half way thru the season, I lost all faith in him being the franchise guy I thought he would be. As of now, this past season is what he is, IMO, he better ball out this year or he will be looked at as a huge bust.
Posted By: MemphisBrownie Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/19/20 07:45 PM
Quote:
Play action is a huge part of what we will do.


Play-action will be a big part ?!?!

Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/19/20 08:05 PM
I'm not ready to make a judgement on Baker. He will certainly have to improve. But the kid has the raw talent. It's there.

And I will point out that his comment was in regards to working with what some call a "QB Guru". Who many great QB's have worked with in the past. So it's hard for me to believe it isn't a valuable tool.

However, he is contractually obligated to work with the Browns coaching staff while he is not contractually obligated to work with a guy like Tom house during the off season. Now how he accepts that instruction and applies it will go a long way in how his future progresses from here.

So for me the jury is out and I'm not ready to base my opinion of him on how well he did in his first season or how poorly he performed in his second season.
Posted By: FloridaFan Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/19/20 08:13 PM
Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Well this quote was from December 27th of 2019. Two days before our final game. So I think the evidence was pretty much in on how he was performing as a QB.

Now there was a statement he made about working with a QB expert like Tom House at the end of the 20018 season where he called guys like House "broom sweepers". Even though many great QB's have worked with people like House during the off season. So I guess how I could see a personality such as himself feeling exactly as you described.

So unless he had an epiphany in the past two months, his comment in regards to his three step drop would be a very recent comment to indicate how he feels.


Is this the comment about broom sweepers your referring to?


https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2594...kley-motivation

Mayfield has talked about the importance of taking time away from the game, but said he will soon return to the gym -- just not with a quarterback specialist.


"No, I'm not going to have any guy swiping a broom at my feet in the ocean, that type of quarterback training," he said. "I don't believe in that. I'll go to a normal gym where I trained last year. I don't need some guy to try and teach me how to throw. I'll have a guy that pushes me in workouts. Has other athletes in there. The intensity's up. It's a working environment."
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/19/20 08:28 PM
No but that is yet another reference to it. I mean he seems to say he doesn't need someone to teach him how to throw. He doesn't need someone to teach him the three step drop. It seems like he feels he doesn't need anyone to teach him much of anything but a play book.
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/19/20 11:59 PM
Maybe we should cut him.
Posted By: devicedawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/20/20 01:15 AM
j/c

A lot of assumptions going on around here...
Posted By: Versatile Dog Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/20/20 01:53 AM
j/c:

Dorsey did not build a talented roster.



Quote:
“The most important thing was the type of talent we have here, knowing what we’re capable of doing even though we didn’t get it done last year,” Mitchell said, via the team’s website. “[Priefer] kind of said it best. It’s unfinished business. There’s things we should have accomplished but we didn’t totally get it done.”

That was an excerpt from this article:

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/browns-holdover-coaches-think-unfinished-141600597.html


The Browns have as much--if not more--talent as any team in the league. There are some question marks at key spots, such as QB, HC, FO, and the team chemistry of being able to overcome a culture of losing that the Sashi regime brought to the team.........but, if the team gets off to a hot start, Baker is at least mediocre, and Stef isn't a total dud......this team could do very well.

Then again, those are all big question marks.
Posted By: Day of the Dawg Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/20/20 02:59 AM
Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
j/c:

Dorsey did not build a talented roster.



Quote:
“The most important thing was the type of talent we have here, knowing what we’re capable of doing even though we didn’t get it done last year,” Mitchell said, via the team’s website. “[Priefer] kind of said it best. It’s unfinished business. There’s things we should have accomplished but we didn’t totally get it done.”

That was an excerpt from this article:

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/browns-holdover-coaches-think-unfinished-141600597.html


The Browns have as much--if not more--talent as any team in the league. There are some question marks at key spots, such as QB, HC, FO, and the team chemistry of being able to overcome a culture of losing that the Sashi regime brought to the team.........but, if the team gets off to a hot start, Baker is at least mediocre, and Stef isn't a total dud......this team could do very well.

Then again, those are all big question marks.


I agree this team has talent. But, cut quite a bit of talented depth thru the course of last season that will be tough to replace Antonio Callaway, Devaroe Lawrence, Chris Smith, Treveon Coley, and Genard Avery for various reasons. Lack of discipline on and off the field mainly.

That was the biggest issue last season lack of discipline. It reared it's ugly head week 1 last year when the team came unglued. It arose many times after during last season. This was ultimately done Kitchens in and took down Dorsey.

I think that will be the new coach Stefanski biggest challenge.

Then he needs to build an identity. This is where reading about Stefanski has me excited. I read that his Vikings offense ran the ball 2nd most in the NFL last season to only the 49ers. I believe that is where Stefanski will build the teams identity. Play smash mouth with Chubb and Hunt and then play action off that.

I think Kitchens was very pass happy. Our 2 tackles had bad seasons last year but if Kitchens would have used the run more to set up the pass they may have held up better. Nick Chubb nearly lead the entire NFL in rushing with less than 20 carrier per game.

I think hiring Joe Woods and his attack style 4-3 will allow for the defensive line and Myles Garrett to thrive getting after QB's. I think he will maximize the talent at corner with Ward and Williams.

He just needs to discipline this team and build an identity. Easier said than done.
Posted By: Versatile Dog Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/20/20 03:07 AM
Nice post, but just to offer you some more information.

The run the ball mandate almost assuredly came from Zimmer. I am not bad-mouthing Stef here because I am one who believes in balance.

With that said, his WRs.......Diggs and Theilan lambasted the playcalling as being too conservative. Kyle Rudolph, who is a huge talent, was largely ignored for the first 3/4 of the year.

I get that Brown's fans love changing coaches and front offices and bringing in new player after new player. However, that is the what the Browns have done since their rebirth and that strategy has failed miserably.
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/20/20 04:27 AM
There is no doubt that Dorsey built a talented roster. Anyone who argues otherwise is being disingenuous. We also have a ton of holes on the roster that need to be addressed. At the very least we need two starting tackles, two starting safeties, and a starting linebacker. One can also argue we need a starting tight end end and right guard but I think those positions can be filled with guys currently on the roster.
Posted By: Versatile Dog Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/20/20 01:27 PM
I would not argue w/most of that. It does take time to fix a roster that was so bad. I also think that no roster is perfect. Look at some of the guy's on KC's OL and in their back 7. And they won a Super Bowl.

I think Robinson was good enough at LT. The hand-wringing over the OL last year was off the chain. Of course, he is now no longer available. Changing OL guys all the time is tough because no other unit relies more on continuity than that particular unit.

One question: Why do you think it's a must that we need a starting LBer? I also don't know if we absolutely need a new starting SS.
Posted By: oobernoober Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/20/20 02:11 PM
Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I would not argue w/most of that. It does take time to fix a roster that was so bad. I also think that no roster is perfect. Look at some of the guy's on KC's OL and in their back 7. And they won a Super Bowl.

I think Robinson was good enough at LT. The hand-wringing over the OL last year was off the chain. Of course, he is now no longer available. Changing OL guys all the time is tough because no other unit relies more on continuity than that particular unit.

One question: Why do you think it's a must that we need a starting LBer? I also don't know if we absolutely need a new starting SS.


Re: LB... I think a lot depends on what the scheme demands. IIRC, we're down to just 1 starting caliber LB with Kirksey being released. Relying on 1-2 of the second year guys to up their game that much in their first NFL offseason is a big ask. I think we need at least 1.

Re: Safety... as of now we're good, but I think many on here are expecting to lose a couple of the guys we have to FA. Randall could walk and was a headcase last year, Burnett is hurt and old, Murray is UFA. I think I'm missing someone... but point is we have quite a few starter-level guys that will need work done on their contract in order to stay. I expect to have to backfill at least 1 starter even though I want to keep the guys we have.


In an earlier post you said Sashi Co. brought the losing culture here. I don't think that's totally accurate. The losing culture was already here, but that FO cultivated it so it could bloom into 1-31.
Posted By: Halfback32 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/20/20 02:22 PM
When was Kirksey released? The team site still shows him on the roster.
Posted By: MemphisBrownie Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/20/20 02:25 PM
Originally Posted By: Halfback32
When was Kirksey released? The team site still shows him on the roster.


I think he meant Taylor?
Posted By: Versatile Dog Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/20/20 02:27 PM
I would agree w/you that the Brown's already had a losing culture before Sashi and company took over. I will just add that cultivating a losing culture [even indirectly] is very hard to overcome in football, because you play so few games.
Posted By: oobernoober Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/20/20 02:44 PM
Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
Originally Posted By: Halfback32
When was Kirksey released? The team site still shows him on the roster.


I think he meant Taylor?


Ah shoot. I'm sorry everyone. I got my 'released' and 'will probably release' lists mixed.

My bad. Thanks for catching that.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/20/20 03:52 PM
Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
Maybe we should cut him.


Maybe you should address the actual things Baker has said rather than be snarky. What he has said is not the fault of those pointing out what he's said.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/20/20 04:02 PM
Originally Posted By: Day of the Dawg

I think Kitchens was very pass happy. Our 2 tackles had bad seasons last year but if Kitchens would have used the run more to set up the pass they may have held up better. Nick Chubb nearly lead the entire NFL in rushing with less than 20 carrier per game.


This seems to be a popular opinion on this board but the stats certainly do not back it up. Chubb had 298 rushing attempts in 2019. That is third in the entire NFL behind only Derrick Henry with 303 and Zeke with 301.
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/20/20 04:57 PM
Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
One question: Why do you think it's a must that we need a starting LBer? I also don't know if we absolutely need a new starting SS.


Schobert is a free agent. That leaves Kirksey (who will probably be cut) and Mack Wilson as the only linebackers with starting experience on the roster. I don't like going into the season with Wilson and Sione Takitaki as our starting linebackers.

Who do you have starting at safety? Eric Murray, Damarious Randall, and Juston Burris are all free agents. That leaves Sheldrick Redwine (who I think has a chance to be a quality starter), Morgan Burnett (who will probably be cut), and J.T. Hassell as the only safeties on the roster. As I said I like Redwine but I wouldn't want to go into the season with him penciled in at starter.
Posted By: Versatile Dog Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/20/20 07:16 PM
I misunderstood you. I am assuming that they re-sign a couple of the free agents you listed, especially Schobert.
Posted By: Halfback32 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/20/20 07:26 PM

298/16 = 18.625 carries per game on average. Yes .. Zeke and Henry also carried the ball less than 20 times a game as well.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/20/20 07:38 PM
It does seem strange how memories can play tricks on people. Even in the days of Jim brown it wasn't much higher. Over the course of Jim Browns career, he averaged rushing 20 times per game.
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/21/20 01:10 AM
Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
Maybe we should cut him.


Maybe you should address the actual things Baker has said rather than be snarky. What he has said is not the fault of those pointing out what he's said.



I was just asking a question.

Should we cut him? I am starting to read posts and think maybe so. Yep, we need to cut him. You convinced me.
Posted By: Versatile Dog Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/21/20 01:19 AM
Who has said to cut him other than you?

Why do you go there, peen? I think some of the other posters are rubbing off on you.
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/21/20 01:29 AM
Whatever happened to that other LB coach....can't remember his name,,,,,was to be a sr defensive coach?
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/21/20 01:40 AM
Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
Whatever happened to that other LB coach....can't remember his name,,,,,was to be a sr defensive coach?


Wade Phillips is a bad source.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Browns assistant coach rumors II - 02/21/20 03:35 PM
Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
Maybe we should cut him.


Maybe you should address the actual things Baker has said rather than be snarky. What he has said is not the fault of those pointing out what he's said.



I was just asking a question.

Should we cut him? I am starting to read posts and think maybe so. Yep, we need to cut him. You convinced me.


I'm not sure of you don't bother to read an entire thread or are just trying to be a smart ass here. But I tend to go with the latter of the two.

But just for the sake of giving you the benefit of the doubt I'll quote a post I made in between your rambling to clarify it for you....

Quote:
I'm not ready to make a judgement on Baker. He will certainly have to improve. But the kid has the raw talent. It's there.

And I will point out that his comment was in regards to working with what some call a "QB Guru". Who many great QB's have worked with in the past. So it's hard for me to believe it isn't a valuable tool.

However, he is contractually obligated to work with the Browns coaching staff while he is not contractually obligated to work with a guy like Tom house during the off season. Now how he accepts that instruction and applies it will go a long way in how his future progresses from here.

So for me the jury is out and I'm not ready to base my opinion of him on how well he did in his first season or how poorly he performed in his second season.


Hope that helps. As Vers said, you are starting to sound like some of the others.
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