This year is crazy because so many QBs are reportedly on the move. Let's discuss some of them and their possible destinations. You can discuss where you think they should go and where you think they will actually end up.

Tom Brady: I think the best fit for him would be Chicago because they have a great defense and just need adequate qb play. However, I don't think he ends up there. My top choices for him are Indy, Chargers, Titans, Tampa Bay, New England.

Phillip Rivers: He was a very good qb, but his arm is shot. Poor mechanics caught up to him. I don't know if he is a quality starter anymore, so I won't say where he should go. I think his top landing spots are Indy and maybe Jax if they trade Foles.

Jimmy G: Despite all the talk of Brady going to SF, I think the 49ers would be nuts to make that move. I think Jimmy G stays in SF. If Brady does sign there, I see Jimmy G going back to NE.

Teddy Bridgewater: Dude went 5 and 0 in New Orleans. I think the Chargers will sign him. Best places for him to go are the Chargers, and then New England [if they don't keep Brady.]

Ryan Tannehill: He had a very good year. I think he should stay in Tennessee. I think he will end up staying there. If not..........hell, I can't even venture a guess.

Cam Newton: This is a tough one because of his injuries and he is really flaky. I think the Bears would be a decent fit. I think he will end up in Carolina or Chicago.

Nick Foles: He had a disastrous year in every sense of the phrase. I think the Jags should keep him. Most likely fits would be Jags, Bears, Eagles.

Mitchel Trubisky: He is a good athlete, but is not a very good passer. Nagy is misusing him. Nagy is so overrated. I think the Bears should probably keep Mitch, but bring in a dude to challenge him. Most likely, he ends up staying in Chicago or goes to a place like Tenn to back up Tannehill.

Marcus Mariotta: He never learned how to read coverages. Good guy and a better athlete. But, you will never make it big if you can't read coverages fast enough. I think he could be a back-up in Tenn, Chicago, and for the Jets. Most likely landing spots are the w/the first two.

Joe Flacco: He is going to be out of Denver after what he said. I think he fits what Bruce Arians wants in a qb. Big, strong, huge arm, pocket passer. Most likely is probably LA Chargers, Buffalo as a backup, TB, NE, Indy.

Jameis Winston: Had over 5,000 yards passing. Had over 30 TDs and Interceptions. Threw about six pick-sixes. I heard a comment that he could have been the offensive and defensive MVP of several games. LOL. I think the best place for him would be Pittsburgh. Back up Ben for awhile and then take over. NE is another spot where he might benefit from being a backup. Most likely landing spots are .......Not sure, but he will probably start the year as a backup.

Jacoby Brissett: Started off pretty good and then fizzled. I think Indy should keep him and let him learn while backing up someone else. Most likely spots are Indy, LA Chargers, NE, Rams.

Andy Dalton: He is not as bad as most folks think. I think the best case scenario for him would be to go to the Bears as a starter. If not, he would be a great backup in places w/young, struggling qbs like the Jets and Browns. Most likely.........Chicago.

I want to add to my previous post. I think the odds are minuscule, but I would not be shocked if the Browns brought in Brady to be the starter.

All the talk last year was how terrible Brady's weapons were last year. Well, Dorsey ensured that the Browns had the best skilled players around Baker. OBJ, Landry, Chubb, and Hunt. Njoku was already here and while he is inconsistent, he does have big-play ability.

Brady doesn't need the time to throw that Baker does. He is the master of reading defenses. He can get rid of the ball very quickly. Imagine him w/these weapons????????? Wow!

The chance of it happening is very, very small...........but, it makes all the sense in the world. Brady would love to have our weapons and I bet our weapons and OL would love having him.

I think Brady ends up in Tennessee. Easy-ish division, friend is the coach, good run game, etc.

I think Rivers ends up in Indy.

I think NE ends up with Cam Newton

The REAL reason you started the thread.

A lot of people agree w/you. I understand it, but right now.......isn't Tannehill better than Brady?

No, it's not.

However, what if it was? Would that be an indictment on my character? If so, wouldn't it also be an indictment on the character of everyone who has ever suggested that it might be a good move to replace a player/coach? I wonder what the real reason is for your reply? LOL

Interesting, but I wonder whether Baker's personality could 'tolerate' that situation...

Probably not. But, like I said...........I think the odds are minuscule.

I probably should not have mentioned that. I see that one of the Baker Boys already questioned me.

I made the thread to talk about something new since the PFF is a bit stale right now. About half way through writing the post, I thought that it was a mistake to make it because it was becoming like work.

I made the Brady comment as an afterthought. I don't want that to be the focus and is NOT why I made the original post. I will say I am real tired of certain posters getting on others who question Baker and not saying a word when posters continually question other players.

I would love to see Brady come to Cleveland. Hopefully Baker would be able to learn from him. By the time Brady would be leaving, Baker would be starting his second contract, and would not be as expensive, after spending 3 years riding the pine, though he may not want to resign here. Brady and Giselle have so much money that Haslam would not have to evict Baker from his digs at the stadium ..

Brady - Patriots
Rivers - Indianapolis
Garoppolo - San Francisco
Bridgewater - Tampa Bay
Tannehill - Tennessee
Newton - Chargers
Foles - Backup somewhere
Trubisky - Bears starter on a short leash
Mariota - Raiders
Flacco - Retired
Winston - Saints
Brissett - Not Indianapolis
Dalton - Bears

I will get all of these correct.

Yeah, that’s what Tennessee has to decide lol. I think it’s one of a few places Brady ends up (maybe TB, CHI, IND)

Mariota to the Raiders makes sense, as it does for him to sign in Chicago with Trubisky teetering

If not New England. Brady to Tennessee makes sense to me.

Brady to Cleveland would be a dream scenario with Baker as the backup. Doesn't matter if Baker likes it or not. What matters is what is best for the Browns, short-term and long-term. Therefore, I'm 100% confident it won't happen.

I think the Steelers need a backup qb. Ben is old and coming off of a serious injury. Rudolph and Duck were awful.

Does anyone seeing one of the qbs on the list being high on Pittsburgh's list?

Brady to the Browns is an interesting thought. If he had things to prove i.e. it was he not Bellicheck that was responsible for the Patriots dynasty or that he is in fact the greatest QB ever. He could see it as the greatest challenge: leading the Browns to their first Super Bowl?

I think Brady to the Cowboys makes sense. If I am Jones; A.) I want to win the SB. B.) Am not sure if Dak is the one to do it and C.) Not sure I want to pay Dak top QB money. Trade Dak sign Brady. Brady gets one last run with the Cowboys.

I should add that I don't think it will happen just that it makes sense to me when I think about it.

There has been some talk of Brady going to Dallas. But, at this point in time, I think Dak is a better qb. It's kind of hard to go w/an older qb who is not playing as well as your younger guy. The one thing that balances things out is that we know Brady won't choke in big moments.

Cowboys need WRs and a better defense.

And a total fantasy. Brady isnt signing with the Browns. Delusional

No you wont

You must be new around here.

The Steelers have never paid for a backup. I would expect them to draft a guy to develop over signing a veteran.

Well i thought it was a good idea for a thread ... i said the other day this will be the most interesting FA period EVER and for me the above position and all the QB movement is the big reason why ... its going to be fun to watch ... ...

I have no clue who will end up where, I just know I’m gonna enjoy watching it all unfold ...

To bad the thread killing troll who should be banned by now showed up ...

Why would the Raiders want to replace Carr with Mariota? That would be a significant step down, IMHO.

I don't remember a year in which so many well-known QBs could potentially change teams. It's fun to discuss.

There are rumors that the Raiders want Mariota as their backup. He would be among the best backups in the league.

I don't believe Dak Prescott is worth the money he is asking. His overall #'s are good but he can't seem to beat good teams or win big games even with all that talent. Tom Brady would be a perfect fit in Dallas IMO. Lot's of playmakers, a great O-line and an owner that would support him. Tom Brady playing on one of, if not the most popular team in football, WOW. The ratings would go through the roof and JJ, being the businessman that he is, would have to see what merchandise sales for his team would be like. He'd make millions just with that. Sign TB for 2 years and maybe draft another QB to develop behind him or sign one of the FA QB's. I think it makes a lot of sense.

The money is a funny thing. The market price is always escalating. Dak is better than Goff who got paid big money. He's right there w/Wentz, who got paid. He's been better than Stafford and Cousins, who got paid. He's proven more than Jimmy G did when the latter got paid.

Brady is probably the GOAT, but he is going to be 43 in August. How old is Dak? Let me look.....He will be 27 in July.

I don't know.......

I agree with what your saying Vers. Good points but what a PR bonanza!! Tom Brady on Americas team, Jerry Jones, Dallas Cowboys rolling the dice for a Super Bowl in the next 2 years!!! If your sick of JJ and the Cowboys now it will get a lot worse. The Cowboys will be on every week and JJ will be interviewed every day on every national sports show. The networks will love it!!

No doubt about that.

I would take Brady over Dak, even at their current ages. I don't think Dak necessarily played better than Brady last year or is currently better than Brady.

I like Dak, but he makes or misses 2-3 head scratching throws a game that end up costing his team. And he's not clutch.

I don't like Dallas at all but I'll watch them every week with TB on the team whether they win or lose. Tom Brady's name on anything with the Dallas star will sell. They'll make millions even without a Super Bowl.

Brady - Patriots
Rivers - Indianapolis
Garoppolo - San Francisco
Bridgewater - Chargers
Tannehill - Tennessee
Newton - Panthers
Foles - Bucs backup
Trubisky - Bears
Mariota - Raiders
Flacco - AARP
Winston - Bucs
Brissett - Patriots backup
Dalton - Bears

That's a pretty good list, but man, did you see some of BA's comments about Winston and the QB position? LOL......BA is so subtle.

Brissett to NE makes sense as well

yeah - BA pulls no punches.

And just to think the Browns could have drafted Prescott but instead took Kessler. Which lead to drafting Baker Mayfield

Thank God we didn't draft Prescott if it wasn't for Zeke he would be even worse than he is, I can't believe Dallas would even consider paying this guy $33 Million

Are you new to the NFL?

Carr is a FA also ... i think if they keep Carr they want Marcus as a back up ...

I would guess there gonna make a strong play for Brady and if they get him who knows what they’ll do ... if they don’t get him ... there gonna stick with Carr but u just never know with chuckle ... his ego gets in his way more often than not ... right now he has Kizer and Peterman on his roster ...

Carr is 100% not a free agent.

Never seen anything close to it ... usually theres no real difference making qb’s available and when there is its usually only one ... but this year theres a bunch of proven nfl starters hitting the market ...

The # of them combined with the lack of good NFL starting QB’s makes all the possible scenarios very intriguing and will be very interesting when those dominoes start falling ...

This QB FA period could very well have a major influence on next years playoffs ... its gonna be fun to see how this cookie crumbles ... oh the possibilities ...

Huh ... i thought he was ...

Never mind then ... *L*..

I’ve heard there gonna be a big player in the Brady sweepstakes ... i just don’t see the talent to woo him there ...

It seems especially interesting in the AFC ... Raiders, Titans, Colts, Patriots, Chargers ... lots of moving parts

If I were in charge of the Browns I'd be giving Marcus Mariota a decent amount of money. The highest paid true backup QB in the league is Case Keenum. He is due to make $7.5 million guaranteed last year. I'd be willing to give Mariota at least that much.

If Baker does not improve or gets hurt we have to have someone who can come in and competently run a game plan. Mariota can do that. Furthermore, I would love to see him on some of the bootlegs we'll be running in Stefanski's offense.

Good take. Dalton would be an upgrade over Trubisky.

Winston to the Saints is interesting.

I have never believed all of this smoke about Brady leaving NE.

if you have Cam Newton leaving Carolina (Heading to the Chargers), whom do have the Panthers getting.. I assume that was a mistake and that Winston is headed to Carolina ????

j/c:

'Tom Brady Says Goodbye To Patriots, Thanking Belichick And Kraft'

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2020/03/17/tom-brady-leaving-patriots-thanking-belichick-and-kraft/

As much as I dislike his 'feast or famine' performance, Winston is a starter-level QB. Mariota is not.

Bridgewater to the Panthers perhaps

Updates to the league's QB Carousel

--Brady not returning to New England.

--Bridgewater drawing interest from New England, Carolina, and maybe Chicago.

--Mariotta to Oakland. I don't get this one.

--Carolina tells Cam that he can seek a trade.

--Tannehill stays in Tennessee.

--Dak was franchised.

--Keenum to Cleveland.

--Brees signs two-year deal.

Did I miss anyone?

Brissett
Dalton

I think Dalton or Bridgewater on the Patriots is a winning combo.

I haven't heard any new updates on them. I think I mentioned them in my first post. I was just updating new developments since I started the thread.

Is there new news on those two guys? I did hear some rumors about Dalton maybe going to Chicago. Is that what you mean?

Dalton might be NE’s best shot at a cheap option

Agreed, while there has been talk that Chicago had interest in Bridgewater, I don't think I have heard 1 little snippet on Dalton.

Chris Mortensen
@mortreport
The Panthers and Teddy Bridgewater are negotiating a 3-year contract in the $60 million range, per source. The deal is not done as they work out details but it is expected to be complete when new league year opens Wednesday.

That's certainly starter money.

I have always liked Teddy. Glad he is back to being a starter. I hope the Panthers don't trade McCaffrey now.

Wonder who will trade for Cam?

lol probably Houston for Watson and Watt

Just when Texans fans think it can't get any worse ......

B. O. B.

It could be a great horror movie.

Houston might actually be a fascinating experiment that could answer the question, "How far can a fQB take a team on his own?"

Man, you gotta feel bad for Watson. He's a great kid and his coach is killing him w/these ignorant ego-driven moves.

He can commiserate with Baker.

So far, Watson has done a lot more than Baker.

I had a dream that the Browns traded Baker for Watson.

Sweet dreams...

I'm glad it was only a dream

Except when you compare rookie seasons against rookie seasons...otherwise I agree.

So your point is regression is somehow as good as, or should be compared to progression?

Nailed it so far.

Good job!

Phillip Rivers just signed a 1 year deal with the Colts. Terms not provided yet.

Phillip Rivers just signed a 1 year deal with the Colts, worth 25 Million.

It's easier to progress when you're working in the same system or at least a system. I'm not sure what we were doing last season is deserving of the term. It was more of a de-system which has ceased to exist, if it ever did .

He reminds me a lot of Rich Gannon, This is looks like Gruden trying to recreate that magic.

Todd Haley gets a lot of grief around here, but his offense, with Kitchens calling plays and Baker at the helm, worked like a dream. Then in 2019 Freddie took over as HC, they brought in Monken as OC, and what those two put together as a so-called offense was wretched and unwatchable. The question I had last year - and still have - is why not stay with Haley's offense that worked so well in 2018 over the last 10-12 games?

Bridgewater to Panthers

You can't be an offensive genius running someone else's offense.

So, ego trumps proven results.

I haven't heard a better explanation.

Earlier, someone said that Baker had a better rookie year than Watson and I believe that was accepted as the truth. But, is it?

I believe neither began the season as a starter. Watson suffered a knee injury that cut his season short. But, I remember he was pretty dynamic when he took over. Similar to Baker.

Some stats:

QB Rate:

Watson: 103.0
Baker: 93.7

QBR:

Watson: 83.6
Baker: 53.2

TD %:

Watson: 9.3
Baker: 5.6

Interception %:

Watson: 3.9
Baker: 2.9

Completion %:

Watson: 61.8
Baker: 63.8

Record:

Watson: 3-3
Baker: 6-7 [Note, officially Baker had 5 wins as a starter, but everyone knows he won the Jets game, so I added that.]

I don't know if it is accurate to say Baker had a better rookie year. Some might say it was a "misleading" statement, but I doubt it. LOL

Seriously, who cares at this point?

So now we wait on Jameis and Cam, right?

I just signed back on not too long ago. Did Dalton sign somewhere?

I wonder if Cam is going to have a hard time finding a team who wants him?

Winston? I still think he would be good in Pittsburgh as their backup. Mason and the Duck dude suck.

Who is NE going to roll with?

Yeah I forgot about Dalton as well

Brady to the Buc's.

Never would have believed it. Really.

So Kessler and Stidham are the QB's now in NE.

Interesting to see this all plays out

Brady, at this particular point in his career, doesn't seem like a BA type of QB. But man, the Bucs have some weapons. Not as good as the Browns.........but close.

Wouldn't it be a fun story if Belichick signs Winston and says.........."okay, let's see who the real man was in NE?"

Bill is petty, but not that obvious about it. He'd probably want to, just to show it to everyone that he could probably win more than Brady will in TB, but I think he's playing the long game (beating the Bills, Dolphins and Jets, not worrying about beating Brady's win total).

I know, punch. I was just playing.

Updated odds to be the Patriots starting QB for Week 1 of the 2020 season (BetOnline):

Jarrett Stidham +175
Cam Newton +200
Andy Dalton +375
Jameis Winston +700
Nick Foles +750
Derek Carr +1200
Jacoby Brissett +1200
Jimmy Garoppolo +2500
Cody Kessler +3300
Joe Flacco +3300

Of those choices, Dalton seems to make the most sense. I am not saying that he is the favorite, but if I were BB, I would go w/Dalton.

Of course, I sure as hell am not as smart as BB.

I do want to add this, though. New England's recent moves in the draft, trades, and FA haven't exactly been stellar.

In Belichick's shoes I'd take Dalton all day every day from that list. Of course - no idea how much of a love fest Bill has for Stidham...
Actually I'd take Jimmy, then Carr then Dalton - but the first two aren't options really.

I think Brissett would be a good bet given those odds

You could be right about that. I was thinking he was probably their second best choice after Dalton.

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised at all with Jameis.

Did you really just post that passive-aggressive BS and NOT include TD passes thrown nor red-zone efficiency?

Or mention that the FIRST time Baker took snaps from the starting center he overcame the worst head coach in history to snap his team's 19 game losing streak?

Misleading? Yeah...you are quite adept at that. My goodness.

No, it's an illusion.

I don't get the whole thing?

I tried to imagine the Brady, BB, and Kraft conversation.


Came out thinking Tom Wanted out. Any reasons would just be a guess coming from me.

So, he leaves takes TB. Why didn't Rivers sign a two year with NE?

He goes to the Colts?

Winston? That would be something if he ended up in NE.

Touchdowns matter?

Nah.

j/c:

Are people really debating which qb stats matter the most? Seriously? The Fabulous Baker Boys are a laugh a minute!

Why not? You did it.

Or are you saying you didn't cherry pick stats and your post tells the whole story?

Never said it told the entire story. I picked the most relevant stats that experts use when evaluating qbs. Let me guess.............I'm "lying" about that.

I really need to go back to not responding to guys like you and Fate. It's hard not to because you make so much crap up, but damn man.............I'm going down to the same level y'all are at.

Good night, device. Hope you are safe in these troubled times.

Edit: I could make several predictions about reactions to what I just said, but this is my immediate favorite:

jfan: This is the funniest post I have ever read.

That is maybe the weakest ish you have ever responded with...and that is saying a lot. Do you not understand how many stats you responded with previously?

Put down the shovel.

What?

The stats I listed are the primary stats that are used to evaluate qbs. Jesus!

Either quit digging the misleading hole you are digging or stop shoveling out the BS...either way...just put it down.

Yo oober.................any comments on who is being "misleading?"

I hope you are safe as well.

Cody Kessler all the way. Trust me.

On NFLN they actually were discussing Kessler as an outside shot at being the starter ... I was laughing

If he gets one more year under his belt, he vests in the NFL pension plan. He's a backup...always was...always will be. Not a bad gig.

I want Brady to take TB to the Super Bowl so much now.

Especially since the SB is in Tampa this season.

I’d like TB to play NE in the super bowl ... of course, only if WE don’t make it

I'm a huge Brady fan. Hope he kills it in TB.

Foles to the Bears for a 4th rounder.

link

I thought Cam might end up in Chicago. That's over now that the Bears traded for Foles.

not surprising, but Chicago must really hate Trubisky lol

so far, the QB switching teams are as follows..

Tom Brady - From NE to TB
Philip Rivers - From LAC to IND
Teddy Bridgewater - From NO to CAR
Marcus Mariotta - From TEN to LV Raiders
Nick Foles - From JAC to CHI
Case Keenum - From WAS to CLE (as backup)
Chase Daniels - From CHI to DET (as backup)

Jamison Winston - seeks to be traded
Cam Newton - Seeks to be traded

Andy Dalton - IMO, will only get traded if right deal comes thru, can see Mike Brown keeping him as the #1 for another year and letting Joe Burrow sit.

Jacoby Briskett - currently in IND (may stay put since Rivers only signed for 1 yr)

Drew Brees signed 2 yr extension (stays put)

IIRC, Winston is a UFA.

J/c ...

I see no way BB takes the pick machine that Winston is .. no way ... that’d be very un BB like to sign this dude ...

He did it once before with another pick machine named Vinny somethin'.

He’s grown since then .... *L* ...

Anytime i hear Vinny and the browns I remember what a good friend of mine said when we acquired I think it was Andre Rison ... he said:

Having Rison on your team as a WR and having Vinny as your QB would be like dating the playmate of the year and not having a penis ... I’m just now starting to be able to *L* at that ...

Still 100%. Amazing.

You're physic.

Did you mean psycho?

Just kidding, cfrs. I enjoy your humor.

I do have a question, though. I thought Winston and Dalton were free agents? They don't have to be traded, do they?

Don't you think Foles is going to start over Trubisky?

I would be very surprised if he didn't.

I don't believe Dalton is a free agent.

I bet they both start at some point.

Dalton is signed through this season, at $17.5 million, and a $200k workout bonus. He is a free agent next season. The Bengals can get out of his contract at no cap hit, or cam trade him as well.

Thank you. I didn't realize that about Dalton. Winston is a FA, or do I have that wrong, too?

Yeah. The Bucs could have franchised him, but obviously, they went in a different direction.

You're welcome.

Nailed it ? missed on some here.

He's joking, woody.

Who's joking?

I'd be shocked if Trubisky starts over Foles.

I think Trubisky is awful.

Glad we didn't pick him

Got EVERY name right! Dude!

just not the locations the names go to ..

--Hoyer signed on the cheap in NE. Almost certainly a back-up who is familiar w/McDaniels' offense and can help mentor Stidham if the Pats roll the dice w/the youngster.

--No word on Cam yet.

--Looks like no one is going to trade for Dalton. I think he is due to be paid $17 million this year. But, I may have misheard.

--Wonder what the Chargers are going to do at qb?

--Brisset might end up staying in Indy. They have a lot of money tied up in their two QBs.

I bet LA Chargers have a few thoughts:

- sign Cam and match him with Tyrod to run the similar offense tailored to them
- draft their FQB (Herbert, Love, Tua)

A run on QBs would be great.

We know Tua and Burrows will go top 5 but My hope is Herbert and Love will also go early with teams moving up to get them.

What if the last is there when we pick do we take the Trade offer???

Carousel might be great for us. Miami, Carolina and Chargers all ahead of us in the draft: Cool I think there is a good shot that 4 QBs will go before our pick!!! Very Cool

Most of you have heard this, but I'm posting it to keep the thread up-to-date. The Panthers have released Cam Newton.

I think it is a big deal that no team was willing to trade for him.

I know it ... Kyle Allen nets a 5th rounder, Cam Newton gets cut

The answer lies in his contract.
No team was willing to take that on.

Still... He's a legit starting-QB level talent.

I think it is more about not being able for team doctors to check him

Caliendo is too much. Cracks me up.

How many starting QBs are better than a healthy Cam Newton?

But that's the issue. Cam Newton can't stay healthy. Not if he wants to play effectively

He passed his physical. Both his foot and shoulder are fully healed. I'm taking Cam Newton over:

Matt Ryan
Josh Allen
Teddy Bridgewater
Mitch Trubisky/Nick Foles
Andy Dalton
Baker Mayfield
Drew Locke
Matthew Stafford
Philip Rivers
Gardner Minshew
Derek Carr
Tyrod Taylor
Jared Goff
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Jarrett Stidham/Brian Hoyer
Daniel Jones
Jimmy Garoppolo
Ryan Tannehill
Dwayne Haskins

And he's a free agent. That's crazy. Guys like him almost never reach free agency and it seems like no one wants him.

The Patriots seem like a very logical destination but they only have $3,412,166 in cap space.

All of them.

BB could talk him into signing for vet minimum for 1 year and leave Carolina on the hook for all it's guarantees while giving Cam a shot at a SB. Not serious but I could see Patriots pulling off the deal.

Where does one find a healthy Cam Newton?

2015 ...

As a QB or as a Running back?

As a healthy Cam, Lamar and Josh Allen are the only better runners. As regards throwing the football - most are better.

j/c:

I don't think Cam is as good as some others do. However, that is just opinion. No big deal.

I do wonder about his health. It seems like you could have gotten something for him.

I get that he is an odd fellow. Showboating when things are going well and pouting when things aren't. The looks he had in is PC's were odd, as well.

If you have that big of an ego, you better be able to ball. Reminds me of another number one overall qb in this league in a way.

Eli Manning retired.

This makes Winston one very lucky guy IMO. Stepping into a solid organization that has respect for QBs and gears up accordingly.

I agree Bard .. he has a chance to resurrect his career and become their starter in a few years

Wow! Amazing!

Nailed it again! You're physic! Its like you have ESPN or something ...

I wonder where Cam will wind up? Maybe he waits until the season starts ... whenever that is, and sees if there is an injury to a starting QB. That might be his best opportunity to find a new starting job.

I cannot remember seeing experienced guys like this struggling just to find jobs.

haha love it

Didn't you see?

Cam is going to wind up with the Chargers.

I still think Andy Dalton ends up in New England somehow. (Or maybe I just can't believe they are really going with Stidham.)

The NE QB situation is interesting. I know Hoyer kinda fits this description, but which available (or could be available) QB:

- doesn’t turn it over
- is accurate within 20 yards of the LOS
- is cerebral
- gets the ball out quickly

I thought Belichick might go after Winston, because Bill loved Testaverde, and Jameis is kind of a latter-day Vinny. I'm guessing they didn't have the cap space, or else maybe Vinny let Bill down one too many times in the clutch back in 94 & 95.

I completely agree.

Andy Dalton to New England. I was thinking maybe Cam Newton, but I dunno. Something makes me think Dalton to New England. Newton has injury questions that Dalton doesn't have. While Cam is a better player at his best, I think Bill will want the steadiness of Dalton.

I also thought Carr or Mariota but those ships have sailed

Hoyer should be a good stop gap.... I was floored they didn't draft a QB...

Yeah i was too

I'm sure BB is going to "SUCK FOR LAWRENCE"

Every team should have been trying to sign Jameis for that money.

I’m surprised New England didn’t try to sign Jameis honestly

I don't really disagree with that but I have a feeling his price tag went down as his options dried up.

That’s the point.

A.J. McCarron is making $4 million this season.

Winston needs to fire his agent now. There have been PLENTY of trash QBs signing for more.

Jameis is definitely a top 32 QB in the league.

I heard that Jameis told the New Orleans media that he had Lasik surgery this off season, and that it was nice to be able to read street signs and license plates. Could his problems throwing to the wrong team really be that simple of any issue, and why wouldn't they (Jameis, his agent, and the Buccaneers) have thought of that earlier?

It can’t hurt to have your eyes fixed. It also doesn’t explain Jameis running around like a chicken with its head cut off and just chucking the call up.

Maybe besides being nearsighted he's also color blind.

Is that a joke or is that true?

I have no information that he's color blind other than his tendency to throw to the wrong color jersey, so I guess its a joke. Seriously though, I think the corrected vision might help him be more accurate with his passes.

Arians said he was colored blind last year ... no clue if his “blurry vision” was mistaken for being color blind or if they were both true ...

Thanks, I didn't know that. So even with impaired vision (myopic and color blind), he still has a career QB rating of 86.9, which isn't bad.

Colorblind doesn’t really mean colorblind unless his color blindness is monochromatic. He likely just sees different shades of the same colors a non colorblind person sees. A lot of people are colorblind (around 4% of the population in the US), almost no one is monochromatic colorblind (like 0.00002 of the population).

Wasn’t Vinny T colorblind? Vaguely remember that fact

Yep. Vinnie had some degree of color blindness.

I think Winston's issues were not due to being color blinded or can be solved by the Lasik eye surgery.

I think his problem was two-fold.

1. He doesn't read coverages well. He throws right into the teeth of the coverage far too often.

2. BA's offense has a phrase...........something like: No risk it, no biscuit." It's clever, but he takes a lot of chances.

A comparison of sorts.

1. Baker also struggled w/reading coverages and some of his reads and decisions were horrific.

2. I think Freddie's offense most resembled BA's offense. Too many high-risk throws.

I believe that both Winston and Baker had issues of their own in regards to poor reads, but were also affected by high-risk play-calling. Not so ironically, they were 1 and 2 in terms of interceptions in the entire league.

j/c...if he truly "NEEDED" the surgery then that is a pretty big thing.

For me I couldn't follow the Golf ball and it would disappear also street signs and other things were very blurry so even the evaluation about him reading coverages etc. might have been sight related.

Now that he has that fixed he is going to need reading glasses where he didn't before. I wonder how long that will take to get that and so he can study the new playbook. lol

I can't remember what game it was but I was watching Winston throw the ball.

Having gone through rotator cuff surgeries on both shoulders. I could see Winston was hurt.

Your arm feels dead. And it feels frozen like it is locked up.

I know he has had surgery. But sometimes there is nerve damage which can take a long time to heal.

Even when he was a MVP I never thought he was a great passer. He was a monster guy that could play physical and make things happen.

At this point it is hard to say if he is healthy.

Winston or Newton?

My bad Cam.

Getting old.