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Posted By: tru_dawgs Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/19/20 04:34 PM
Just saw this on rotoworld...We need some depth along our line.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/19/20 04:34 PM
All I know is he was with Cincy, thats it lol
Posted By: MemphisBrownie Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/19/20 04:36 PM
depth.
Posted By: tru_dawgs Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/19/20 04:38 PM
I remember him as a run stuffer, first kind of buried on that team...I remember the draft talk when he was coming out of Baylor. Maybe hell play run situations since we obviously have run stuffing issues...but obviously he will behind Sheldon and Larry Ogi. Not a great player by any length, but should help our rotation as it always seems our starters play far too much imho
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/19/20 04:39 PM
Thanks .. maybe he’s learned from Atkins too
Posted By: DiamDawg Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/19/20 04:41 PM
ANDREW BILLINGS
DL, CLEVELAND BROWNS

Browns signed DT Andrew Billings.

Billings started 37 games with the Bengals after being selected in the fourth round of the 2016 draft. Unfortunately, he never quite got rolling as a pass rusher, totaling just 3.5 sacks and 12 QB hits through three seasons of action. Billings will provide depth to the Browns' defensive front, but expectations should be managed. PFF graded him as their 50th-best interior defender among 121 qualified players in 2019.

SOURCE: Ben Baby on Twitter
Mar 19, 2020, 12:21 PM ET
Posted By: Milk Man Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/19/20 04:41 PM
That's what I would imagine as well.

Andrew Billings 2019 PFF Grades:

Overall - 69.3
Run Defense - 68.4
Pass Rush - 65.3
Total Snaps = 657
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/19/20 04:42 PM
Seems like a 2 down DT then ... and depth
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/19/20 04:43 PM
Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
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The #Browns are giving DT Andrew Billings a 1-year deal worth $3.5M fully guaranteed, source said. Some heft on their defensive line from someone they’ve played against twice a year.
Posted By: PrplPplEater Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/19/20 05:04 PM
at worst, a camp body; at best, a rotational backup
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/19/20 05:05 PM
J/c

Following a few Browns guys on twitter .. they seem to really like this pickup
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/19/20 05:29 PM
If you check out @JoeGoodberry on twitter ... he’s got a string of nice thoughts/highlights of Billings
Posted By: RedBaron Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/19/20 05:40 PM
Finally! A viable 3-man rotation in the middle. I feel like I've been waiting for this for 3 years.

We may finally be able to see what big Larry can do when he's not run into the ground. Assuming he stays healthy, that it.

The snap counts for our DT's have been ridiculous for so long.
Posted By: Rottweiller Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/19/20 05:42 PM
J/C Rock solid pick up. We needed a little Beef up front and a run stopper to boot. I hope to see another big body to add to the room from the draft. We know that Baltimore is gonna run 35 times per game and if Cincy takes Burrow, my guess is Mixon will see a carry increase, and I think Pittsburgh will re-establish their old school identity to run first to protect what ever is left of Big Ben. 1 year deal is also good for us.
Posted By: tru_dawgs Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/19/20 05:46 PM
Originally Posted By: RedBaron
Finally! A viable 3-man rotation in the middle. I feel like I've been waiting for this for 3 years.

We may finally be able to see what big Larry can do when he's not run into the ground. Assuming he stays healthy, that it.

The snap counts for our DT's have been ridiculous for so long.



Amen, I always felt we got more gashed due to our starters being far gassed...I've seen several times in the past two years where our starters are sucking air in the 2nd quarter...would love to have a Dline with depth like the Eagles posess.
Posted By: Iluvmyxstripper Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/19/20 05:54 PM
Why bring in a DT from a defense that
Got gashed last year ?
Maybe he was part of the problem ?
Posted By: FL_Dawg Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/19/20 06:04 PM
Originally Posted By: Iluvmyxstripper
Why bring in a DT from a defense that
Got gashed last year ?
Maybe he was part of the problem ?


I don't think that we brought him here to be anything more than a rotational guy, with that said, he is definitely more stout than Larry O vs the run.
Posted By: Halfback32 Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/19/20 06:08 PM

Every time we get depth, people want to trade it away. Then if someone get's injured, it becomes, "Why did we trade [fill in name here], he could have helped in this situation."

Last year we had depth at Cornerback, and it got us through in the early season when both starting corners went down. It looks like Berry wants to build depth as well as the starters. Let us hope it continues.
Posted By: mac Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/19/20 06:09 PM
Like it..adding talent TO WIN!
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/19/20 06:20 PM
Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
Seems like a 2 down DT then ... and depth


More like a one down player. Either way, it's a type of player we didn't have last year.
Posted By: FL_Dawg Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/19/20 06:26 PM
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
Seems like a 2 down DT then ... and depth


More like a one down player. Either way, it's a type of player we didn't have last year.


No we did not!
Posted By: HotBYoungTurk Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/19/20 06:46 PM
Depth. We need it.
Posted By: PastorMarc Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/19/20 06:47 PM
Good Pick-up for depth thumbsup
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/19/20 06:51 PM
Indeed
Posted By: PastorMarc Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/19/20 06:55 PM

Andrew Billings #99 DT Cincinnati Bengals | Official Team Site

Height: 6-1 Weight: 328 Age: 25 Born: 3/6/1995 Waco , TX

College: Baylor Experience: 5th season High School: Waco HS [TX]

TCKL 35 SCK 1.0 FF 0 INT --
Posted By: tru_dawgs Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/19/20 07:21 PM
Originally Posted By: Iluvmyxstripper
Why bring in a DT from a defense that
Got gashed last year ?
Maybe he was part of the problem ?


Bengals had the league's worst LB core (probably passing the torch to us now lol)..they were a huge blame to defensive woes. Paired with and erratic secondary, and youth movement influx with the Dline...they had issues, but the dline was arguably the best of their sectors.
Posted By: eotab Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/19/20 07:29 PM
Its about the 11 you put out there. If you are the only one working out what does it matter. We got to get the best of OUR ELEVEN OUT THERE...hopefully he is a guy who will get better with Richardson, Garrett and Larry around him.

As long as we upgrade in this case from the bottom of our barrel jmho
Posted By: guard dawg Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/19/20 07:34 PM
J/C

I tried but couldn't make it work. If anybody can go to @joegoodberry and copy those Billings tweets over here that would be worth doing.

I got hyped watching them.
Posted By: Bard Dawg Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/19/20 08:32 PM
We are at least a bit less vulnerable with depth added here. Hope he can stop run for us. I think it is a decent pickup.
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/19/20 10:51 PM
Originally Posted By: RedBaron
Finally! A viable 3-man rotation in the middle. I feel like I've been waiting for this for 3 years.

We may finally be able to see what big Larry can do when he's not run into the ground. Assuming he stays healthy, that it.

The snap counts for our DT's have been ridiculous for so long.



Exactly. The guy isn't going to get the QB often, but he will plug running lanes.

Hello? We need that, right?
Posted By: Versatile Dog Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/19/20 10:59 PM
I know people get very upset if one questions any of Berry's choices, but I'm not so sure that Billings is the big-time run-stuffer that you guys are saying he is.

I think he is very strong. I think he is known as a guy who can get good penetration due to that strength. I think he has a rep of not being able to shed blocks in the run game. Not good moving laterally. Let's guys get into his pads and can't disengage from them.

I think his best attributes are his strength which can lead to him getting into the backfield at times. Otherwise.......I don't see him as a run-stuffing DT.
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/19/20 11:16 PM
Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I know people get very upset if one questions any of Berry's choices, but I'm not so sure that Billings is the big-time run-stuffer that you guys are saying he is.

I think he is very strong. I think he is known as a guy who can get good penetration due to that strength. I think he has a rep of not being able to shed blocks in the run game. Not good moving laterally. Let's guys get into his pads and can't disengage from them.

I think his best attributes are his strength which can lead to him getting into the backfield at times. Otherwise.......I don't see him as a run-stuffing DT.



I appreciate that. You could be right.


Probably why we signed him to a 1 year deal.


I see it as this, Berry doesn't want to enter the draft feeling like he needs to fill a position..


As I have said many times, you don't always look at the top of the roster. You also need to address the middle and bottom of the roster.


This is FA....late mind you. Teams aren't signing sure starters at this point, until guys like Clowney get their numbers right
Posted By: DeputyDawg Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/19/20 11:37 PM
I don't get this one. He is a run stuffing NT and we play a 4-3. He is a horrible tackler for being a run stuffer as well. The only job I can project for him is as a space eater on the goal line.

So far, this is the one Berry move I just don't get.
Posted By: Versatile Dog Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/19/20 11:38 PM
I wasn't criticizing the signing. I was just adding that I don't think he is a run-stuffing DT.

PS: I would not pay Clowney anywhere close to the money he is asking.
Posted By: Tulsa Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/19/20 11:53 PM
We signed Bengals junk, wonderful.
Posted By: PastorMarc Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/20/20 12:19 AM
Originally Posted By: Tulsa
We signed Bengals junk, wonderful.


One mans trash is another mans treasure thumbsup
Posted By: dawg66 Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/20/20 05:20 AM
According to PFF he grades out as a pretty good run defender and a decent pass rusher but he does tend to miss a few tackles.
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/20/20 06:38 AM
Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I wasn't criticizing the signing. I was just adding that I don't think he is a run-stuffing DT.

PS: I would not pay Clowney anywhere close to the money he is asking.


Neither is anyone else. There are still some quality starters out there but evidently they are seeking money teams aren't willing to pay.

I think we are at the point the teams and players know we aren't going to play the season. Maybe the next two.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/20/20 09:12 AM
Jc

It appears like Clowney is overvaluing himself. He’s never been supremely productive and/or healthy. Honestly, if I were a GM I’d be cautious in offering him too much money or too many years
Posted By: guard dawg Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/20/20 10:21 AM
jc

Posted By: Tulsa Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/20/20 10:27 AM
Originally Posted By: PastorMarc
Originally Posted By: Tulsa
We signed Bengals junk, wonderful.


One mans trash is another mans treasure thumbsup


Only to those who dumpster dive.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/21/20 09:46 AM
out of boredom, I rewatched the Browns at Bengals game from 2018 (the one where we destroyed them and Randall handed the ball to Hue on the sidelines).

Anyways, we basically could do no wrong on offense .. BUT, Billings was disruptive in the run game. He is very strong lol and gave Tretter fits
Posted By: mgh888 Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/21/20 01:49 PM
Thanks !
Posted By: Bard Dawg Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/21/20 09:42 PM
I hope he is a wrecker for us.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/21/20 10:48 PM
Originally Posted By: Bard Dawg
I hope he is a wrecker for us.
same here
Posted By: FL_Dawg Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/22/20 12:04 AM
Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
out of boredom, I rewatched the Browns at Bengals game from 2018 (the one where we destroyed them and Randall handed the ball to Hue on the sidelines).

Anyways, we basically could do no wrong on offense .. BUT, Billings was disruptive in the run game. He is very strong lol and gave Tretter fits


I was board too the other day, and went back to read some scouting reports, both pre and post Draft.

Many projected him to go in the 2nd round, but he fell to the fourth round of the Draft.

To the point ... the biggest concerns some had and the reason as to his perceived fall can be summeried as one of a difficancy in finishing/making the play.

With that said ... he is just now hitting the prime years of his career, and doing it with passed experiences to build from.

And another contract year.
Posted By: Milk Man Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/27/20 05:22 PM
j/c...

Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/27/20 05:24 PM
That’s good news. I’ve read a lot about him and it seems like he’s highly regarded by some
Posted By: SaintDawg Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/27/20 07:55 PM
It is good news. Hopefully it's REAL news.
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/27/20 10:48 PM
Originally Posted By: SaintDawg
It is good news. Hopefully it's REAL news.



I don't expect a all pro season, but watching tape, the kid is stout. I think he can help against the run.

Maybe shoot a gap, if not, just hold ground and make the back seek another way.

You don't have to make the play, to make the play, if you know what I mean.
Posted By: Dave Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/27/20 10:55 PM
Ballpeen, you remember big Walter Johnson, the DT from the 70's? Walter was a stay-at-home block-eater who clogged the middle while his fellow DT Jerry Sherk ran roughshod through opponents' backfields. I'm hoping Billings can be that guy, alternately for Sheldon Richarson and Larry Ogunjobi.
Posted By: waterdawg Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/27/20 11:01 PM
Wow are you turning back the time machine ..lol
Posted By: Homewood Dog Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/27/20 11:34 PM
Walter was one of my favorite Browns as a kid. Good solid player #71 if I remember correctly.
Posted By: Dave Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/27/20 11:41 PM
Originally Posted By: waterdawg
Wow are you turning back the time machine ..lol


Its Friday night, I've had a beverage or two. wink
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/28/20 10:04 AM
brownie
Posted By: Homewood Dog Re: Browns sign DT Andrew Billings - 03/28/20 03:28 PM
The way things are Dave we all could use a beverage or 2 or 4 every day!! I'd start off with a shot and a beer and go from there thumbsup
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