Just saw this on rotoworld...We need some depth along our line.
All I know is he was with Cincy, thats it lol
I remember him as a run stuffer, first kind of buried on that team...I remember the draft talk when he was coming out of Baylor. Maybe hell play run situations since we obviously have run stuffing issues...but obviously he will behind Sheldon and Larry Ogi. Not a great player by any length, but should help our rotation as it always seems our starters play far too much imho
Thanks .. maybe he’s learned from Atkins too
ANDREW BILLINGS
DL, CLEVELAND BROWNS
Browns signed DT Andrew Billings.
Billings started 37 games with the Bengals after being selected in the fourth round of the 2016 draft. Unfortunately, he never quite got rolling as a pass rusher, totaling just 3.5 sacks and 12 QB hits through three seasons of action. Billings will provide depth to the Browns' defensive front, but expectations should be managed. PFF graded him as their 50th-best interior defender among 121 qualified players in 2019.
SOURCE: Ben Baby on Twitter
Mar 19, 2020, 12:21 PM ET
That's what I would imagine as well.
Andrew Billings 2019 PFF Grades:
Overall - 69.3
Run Defense - 68.4
Pass Rush - 65.3
Total Snaps = 657
Seems like a 2 down DT then ... and depth
Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
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1m
The #Browns are giving DT Andrew Billings a 1-year deal worth $3.5M fully guaranteed, source said. Some heft on their defensive line from someone they’ve played against twice a year.
at worst, a camp body; at best, a rotational backup
J/c
Following a few Browns guys on twitter .. they seem to really like this pickup
If you check out @JoeGoodberry on twitter ... he’s got a string of nice thoughts/highlights of Billings
Finally! A viable 3-man rotation in the middle. I feel like I've been waiting for this for 3 years.
We may finally be able to see what big Larry can do when he's not run into the ground. Assuming he stays healthy, that it.
The snap counts for our DT's have been ridiculous for so long.
J/C Rock solid pick up. We needed a little Beef up front and a run stopper to boot. I hope to see another big body to add to the room from the draft. We know that Baltimore is gonna run 35 times per game and if Cincy takes Burrow, my guess is Mixon will see a carry increase, and I think Pittsburgh will re-establish their old school identity to run first to protect what ever is left of Big Ben. 1 year deal is also good for us.
Finally! A viable 3-man rotation in the middle. I feel like I've been waiting for this for 3 years.
We may finally be able to see what big Larry can do when he's not run into the ground. Assuming he stays healthy, that it.
The snap counts for our DT's have been ridiculous for so long.
Amen, I always felt we got more gashed due to our starters being far gassed...I've seen several times in the past two years where our starters are sucking air in the 2nd quarter...would love to have a Dline with depth like the Eagles posess.
Why bring in a DT from a defense that
Got gashed last year ?
Maybe he was part of the problem ?
Why bring in a DT from a defense that
Got gashed last year ?
Maybe he was part of the problem ?
I don't think that we brought him here to be anything more than a rotational guy, with that said, he is definitely more stout than Larry O vs the run.
Every time we get depth, people want to trade it away. Then if someone get's injured, it becomes, "Why did we trade [fill in name here], he could have helped in this situation."
Last year we had depth at Cornerback, and it got us through in the early season when both starting corners went down. It looks like Berry wants to build depth as well as the starters. Let us hope it continues.
Like it..adding talent TO WIN!
Seems like a 2 down DT then ... and depth
More like a one down player. Either way, it's a type of player we didn't have last year.
Seems like a 2 down DT then ... and depth
More like a one down player. Either way, it's a type of player we didn't have last year.
No we did not!
Good Pick-up for depth
Andrew Billings #99 DT Cincinnati Bengals | Official Team Site
Height: 6-1 Weight: 328 Age: 25 Born: 3/6/1995 Waco , TX
College: Baylor Experience: 5th season High School: Waco HS [TX]
TCKL 35 SCK 1.0 FF 0 INT --
Why bring in a DT from a defense that
Got gashed last year ?
Maybe he was part of the problem ?
Bengals had the league's worst LB core (probably passing the torch to us now lol)..they were a huge blame to defensive woes. Paired with and erratic secondary, and youth movement influx with the Dline...they had issues, but the dline was arguably the best of their sectors.
Its about the 11 you put out there. If you are the only one working out what does it matter. We got to get the best of OUR ELEVEN OUT THERE...hopefully he is a guy who will get better with Richardson, Garrett and Larry around him.
As long as we upgrade in this case from the bottom of our barrel jmho
J/C
I tried but couldn't make it work. If anybody can go to @joegoodberry and copy those Billings tweets over here that would be worth doing.
I got hyped watching them.
We are at least a bit less vulnerable with depth added here. Hope he can stop run for us. I think it is a decent pickup.
Finally! A viable 3-man rotation in the middle. I feel like I've been waiting for this for 3 years.
We may finally be able to see what big Larry can do when he's not run into the ground. Assuming he stays healthy, that it.
The snap counts for our DT's have been ridiculous for so long.
Exactly. The guy isn't going to get the QB often, but he will plug running lanes.
Hello? We need that, right?
I know people get very upset if one questions any of Berry's choices, but I'm not so sure that Billings is the big-time run-stuffer that you guys are saying he is.
I think he is very strong. I think he is known as a guy who can get good penetration due to that strength. I think he has a rep of not being able to shed blocks in the run game. Not good moving laterally. Let's guys get into his pads and can't disengage from them.
I think his best attributes are his strength which can lead to him getting into the backfield at times. Otherwise.......I don't see him as a run-stuffing DT.
I know people get very upset if one questions any of Berry's choices, but I'm not so sure that Billings is the big-time run-stuffer that you guys are saying he is.
I think he is very strong. I think he is known as a guy who can get good penetration due to that strength. I think he has a rep of not being able to shed blocks in the run game. Not good moving laterally. Let's guys get into his pads and can't disengage from them.
I think his best attributes are his strength which can lead to him getting into the backfield at times. Otherwise.......I don't see him as a run-stuffing DT.
I appreciate that. You could be right.
Probably why we signed him to a 1 year deal.
I see it as this, Berry doesn't want to enter the draft feeling like he needs to fill a position..
As I have said many times, you don't always look at the top of the roster. You also need to address the middle and bottom of the roster.
This is FA....late mind you. Teams aren't signing sure starters at this point, until guys like Clowney get their numbers right
I don't get this one. He is a run stuffing NT and we play a 4-3. He is a horrible tackler for being a run stuffer as well. The only job I can project for him is as a space eater on the goal line.
So far, this is the one Berry move I just don't get.
I wasn't criticizing the signing. I was just adding that I don't think he is a run-stuffing DT.
PS: I would not pay Clowney anywhere close to the money he is asking.
We signed Bengals junk, wonderful.
We signed Bengals junk, wonderful.
One mans trash is another mans treasure
According to PFF he grades out as a pretty good run defender and a decent pass rusher but he does tend to miss a few tackles.
I wasn't criticizing the signing. I was just adding that I don't think he is a run-stuffing DT.
PS: I would not pay Clowney anywhere close to the money he is asking.
Neither is anyone else. There are still some quality starters out there but evidently they are seeking money teams aren't willing to pay.
I think we are at the point the teams and players know we aren't going to play the season. Maybe the next two.
Jc
It appears like Clowney is overvaluing himself. He’s never been supremely productive and/or healthy. Honestly, if I were a GM I’d be cautious in offering him too much money or too many years
We signed Bengals junk, wonderful.
One mans trash is another mans treasure
Only to those who dumpster dive.
out of boredom, I rewatched the Browns at Bengals game from 2018 (the one where we destroyed them and Randall handed the ball to Hue on the sidelines).
Anyways, we basically could do no wrong on offense .. BUT, Billings was disruptive in the run game. He is very strong lol and gave Tretter fits
I hope he is a wrecker for us.
I hope he is a wrecker for us.
same here
out of boredom, I rewatched the Browns at Bengals game from 2018 (the one where we destroyed them and Randall handed the ball to Hue on the sidelines).
Anyways, we basically could do no wrong on offense .. BUT, Billings was disruptive in the run game. He is very strong lol and gave Tretter fits
I was board too the other day, and went back to read some scouting reports, both pre and post Draft.
Many projected him to go in the 2nd round, but he fell to the fourth round of the Draft.
To the point ... the biggest concerns some had and the reason as to his perceived fall can be summeried as one of a difficancy in finishing/making the play.
With that said ... he is just now hitting the prime years of his career, and doing it with passed experiences to build from.
And another contract year.
That’s good news. I’ve read a lot about him and it seems like he’s highly regarded by some
It is good news. Hopefully it's REAL news.
It is good news. Hopefully it's REAL news.
I don't expect a all pro season, but watching tape, the kid is stout. I think he can help against the run.
Maybe shoot a gap, if not, just hold ground and make the back seek another way.
You don't have to make the play, to make the play, if you know what I mean.
Ballpeen, you remember big Walter Johnson, the DT from the 70's? Walter was a stay-at-home block-eater who clogged the middle while his fellow DT Jerry Sherk ran roughshod through opponents' backfields. I'm hoping Billings can be that guy, alternately for Sheldon Richarson and Larry Ogunjobi.
Wow are you turning back the time machine ..lol
Walter was one of my favorite Browns as a kid. Good solid player #71 if I remember correctly.
Wow are you turning back the time machine ..lol
Its Friday night, I've had a beverage or two.
The way things are Dave we all could use a beverage or 2 or 4 every day!! I'd start off with a shot and a beer and go from there