The NFL’s Offensive Line Crisis Has No Single Diagnosis

Why has the league’s on-field product seemed lackluster at times in 2017? Look no further than the deteriorating state of offensive line play—a problem with multiple causes, and no easy solution.

By Robert Mays Nov 2, 2017, 9:26am EDT



The way LeCharles Bentley sees it, the deteriorating quality of offensive line play in the NFL is an epidemic just like any other. Bentley, a former center for the Saints and Browns who now runs his own linemen training facility in Arizona, has watched the level of proficiency at the position group plummet in the past few years, and the search to pinpoint the crisis’s equivalent of patient zero pick up in earnest. “The natural tendency is to identify one potential culprit,” Bentley says. “But there’s always multiple factors that caused it to spread. It’s the same thing we’re seeing right now. Many are trying to look through a keyhole and see an entire hallway.”

Those who are involved with offensive linemen in the NFL—from current and former players to coaches to executives—admit that the league is approaching a crossroads at the position. A shortage of effective linemen has affected the way offenses function, and blocking struggles have been the worst offender in creating the lackluster product on display at times during the first half of the 2017 season. Scoring league-wide has dropped from an average of 22.8 points per game last season to 21.9 in the first half of this fall, and teams are scoring fewer touchdowns per game (2.38) than they have since 2006. A collapse in offensive line quality has played a major role, and every expert has a pet theory for how it happened.

The rise of the spread offense in college football is a common villain, as many say that young linemen are entering the league less prepared than they’ve ever been. The limitations placed on team practice time under the new collective bargaining agreement is another. The truth is that the NFL’s state of offensive line emergency is likely the byproduct of several factors whose effects have all been exacerbated by the presence of the others. The evaluation and development of offensive linemen are being hit hard from several angles, and the cumulative impact has been devastating.

By exploring all of the influences and how they relate to one another, it may be possible to figure out how to combat them—and improve what we see on the field on Sundays.

Over the past few years, the spread offense has been stuck with a reputation as the NFL’s boogeyman, to the point that its proliferation in the college game has begun to feel like a tired excuse for failings at the professional level. Yet while teams across the league try to incorporate more spread concepts into their offenses, the approach’s effect on the development of young linemen has grown impossible to ignore. “It’s building block stuff,” Falcons offensive line coach Chris Morgan says of the deficiencies he sees in incoming linemen. “Now, there’s a little bit steeper of a curve with the stuff that used to be givens. You’re talking about guys hearing plays in a huddle, breaking a huddle, getting into a three-point stance, working combination blocks. You’re farther away than you used to be in terms of reps banked.”


The college game has started to move at such a rapid pace that it can barely resemble the sport played in the NFL. In January’s national championship game, for example, Clemson beat Alabama by running a whopping 99 plays from scrimmage; in last week’s thrilling 41-38 victory against the Texans, the Seahawks ran just 64. This trend has stunted the progression of linemen from a technical standpoint—guys in spread offenses constantly line up in a two-point stance, almost regardless of the situation—and, more crucially, it’s eliminated the complexity that’s long been inherent to line play. By operating at such a ridiculously fast clip, college offenses have negated the importance of the blockers up front making specific identifications and picking up intricate blitzes, which are skills that continue to be vital in the pros.

“If you’re running a spread offense in the college game, almost nothing translates to the NFL,” former NFL offensive linemen and current SiriusXM and SB Nation analyst Geoff Schwartz says. “You’re running at such a high tempo that teams aren’t going to twist and blitz because you’re moving so fast. Defenders are so tired.”

Titans general manager Jon Robinson says that the goal of many college practices is “going for quantity,” with teams using that time as a way to hone their ability to move lightning fast come game day. To wit: When Schwartz played at Oregon under then-first-year offensive coordinator Chip Kelly, he says that watching practice film had almost no value. The scout team could barely line up before the ball was snapped. And while college coaches doing their best Ricky Bobby impression is outrageously fun to watch, it’s caused linemen to lack technical skills and knowledge of schemes and protections that would allow them to smoothly transition from the NCAA to the pros.

As schematic differences have muddied both evaluation and development of college players, finding young linemen who have a baseline skill set has become more difficult. Figuring out which schools those players come from, though, has become increasingly apparent. A disproportionate number of starting NFL offensive linemen in recent years have come from a small collection of programs, and the percentage of quality linemen to emerge from that group is staggering. Wisconsin, for instance, has produced six starting NFL linemen in a pool of 160 players, including a pair of players (Kevin Zeitler and Rick Wagner) who reset the market at right guard and right tackle this offseason, a future Hall of Famer (Joe Thomas), and maybe the top center in football (Travis Frederick). Iowa boasts guys like Marshal Yanda, Bryan Bulaga, and Brandon Scherff, while Notre Dame counts Ronnie Stanley, Zack Martin, and his young brother, Nick.

Gleaning how these schools (and others like Ohio State and Stanford) have consistently churned out quality linemen comes down to a simple premise: By giving young players experience lining up in three-point stances and—in several of these cases, but not all—heavier formations that resemble those in the NFL, these schools move players further along in their development than most of their peers. Their education about what it takes to make it in the league doesn’t start from scratch. And given the barriers coaches now face in developing players after they’ve been drafted, the idea of finding linemen with strong starting points has become more attractive than ever.


The 2011 CBA restrictions that were placed on practice time have been a constant topic of league-wide conversation through the past few years. The area where that lack of practice shows up most noticeably is in the performances of offensive linemen, who aren’t even permitted to line up across from each other—with or without pads—during spring conditioning programs. “The way you fit blocks is different, the way you strike and punch,” Morgan says. “You can still work those things, but it’s like anything else—the less you do of it … you’ve got to really monitor the quality.” Limits on practice were instituted as a means of improving player safety, a worthwhile endeavor that’s unfortunately had a few unintended side effects.

According to Schwartz, the CBA change that’s most significantly hindered effective line play has been the ban on two-a-day practices during training camp. The offensive line is the only position group whose players literally have to work in step with teammates on every snap. Linemen are most successful when they innately know the habits and tics of players aligned next to them, and when they don’t get the reps needed to build that kind of rapport, the lack of familiarity eventually shows down the road. Schwartz cites a simple inside zone run with the right guard and the right tackle running a combination block on a defensive tackle lined up as a two-technique (directly over the guard) as an example. On the first time this play is run, the pair might botch the block. On the second, they might correct the mistake. On the third, the tackle could shift into a different gap. “That’s three separate plays,” Schwartz says. “We had a double-team we screwed up, we came back and fixed it, and all of a sudden, he moved. The fourth time, there’s a [defensive] pressure. The fifth time, the guys twist.”

When teams were allowed to have two practices per day in camp, there was adequate time for offensive lines to cycle through every possible variation and wrinkle that a defense could present—not only identifying it, but also facilitating an understanding of how the players would respond in real time. The same held true for linemen planning to stop blitzes or stunts in pass protection. “You don’t get as many reps anymore,” Schwartz says, “so I think when guys get to the game, a lot of players are surprised by movement and the things that happen.”

As the development of young players has become less reliable, teams’ desire to have veteran offensive line talent has naturally increased. And with this year’s draft almost entirely devoid of plug-and-play offensive line starters, needy front offices were pushed to the free-agent market and forced to pay 110 cents on the dollar as a result of overwhelming demand. Trying to keep tabs on the movement of 2017 free-agent linemen felt similar to watching an elaborate shell game. Top-end starters swapped jobs all over the league. After signing Rick Wagner as their new right tackle, the Lions let Riley Reiff walk; Reiff replaced Matt Kalil as the Vikings left tackle; Kalil signed a massive deal in Carolina, the team that the Vikings new right tackle Mike Remmers played for last season; T.J. Lang came to Detroit to be the new right guard; and the guy he replaced, Larry Warford, signed in New Orleans.


For some of the teams that tried to replace veterans with young, highly drafted replacements, the results have been disastrous. The Bengals balked at the thought of making Zeitler the NFL’s highest-paid guard or paying a premium to retain 35-year-old Pro Bowl left tackle Andrew Whitworth this spring; Cincinnati currently ranks 30th in the league in adjusted sack rate, and both Jake Fisher and Cedric Ogbuehi haven’t looked like anything close to long-term answers up front. So far, the Cowboys have failed to replace the production of left guard Ronald Leary, who cashed in with the Broncos in March. With so much uncertainty surrounding the futures of each individual lineman, even the best-laid plans can go awry, which makes the background and experience of free-agent options all the more appealing.

Acquiring veterans has eliminated team concerns about how well players can grasp fronts, identify Mike linebackers, and protect. But this free-agency frenzy also has a drawback: Each seasoned player comes to his new home with habits and terminology learned elsewhere. “An offensive line is kind of like a marching band,” says Larry Zierlein, an assistant line coach for the Cardinals. “Everybody’s got to do it in step. [With free agents], you’ve got one guy doing a technique you learned in Baltimore, another guy doing a technique he learned in Dallas, and another guy doing something else.” Zierlein says it’s rare to see a starting five stay intact for more than a season or two these days. As the demand for free-agent linemen increases, so will player movement, ensuring a yearly game of musical chairs.

Therein lies the challenge in fixing the league’s offensive line problem: Every solution seemingly creates another issue.

One of the most confusing elements of the league’s offensive line crisis is how this shortage of quality linemen has coincided with the NFL’s athletes being better than ever before. “I think that’s where some of the mystery is coming in,” Bentley says. “Across the board, we have bigger, faster, stronger players, but the quality of [line] play has definitely decreased. I think now is the time when people have to start recognizing that [playing well on the] offensive line isn’t just about [being] a high-level athlete. It’s about being a high-level craftsman first.”

The size and speed of players around the league continues to increase, but that’s less impactful on the offensive line than it is at any other position besides kicker and punter. Because a majority of the skills that determine success are learned, the benefits that come from having significant athletic advantages are mitigated. “It’s such a technical position,” Robinson says. “You can’t just be big, move to the left, move to the right, and move straight ahead and be effective. It’s hand placement, it’s body coordination, and it’s playing with good power angles.”


Further amplifying this problem is the set of players that offensive linemen are tasked with stopping. The benefits bestowed upon ludicrously athletic defensive linemen fall on the polar opposite of the spectrum. While the nuances of pass rushing are often understated, it remains a skill in which a rare combination of quickness and bulk can make up for a host of other blemishes. The uptick in physical gifts for defenders up front means that interdimensional beings like Myles Garrett and Jadeveon Clowney have entered the NFL. Even more problematic for offensive linemen is the sheer number of potential game wreckers who can be on the field at any one time.

The league’s premier defenses have gone from having one—or two, if they’re lucky—dominant rushers to trotting out three or four all at once. When the Jaguars can line up Calais Campbell and Malik Jackson on the inside while rushing Dante Fowler Jr. and Yannick Ngakoue off the edge, they present a terrifying prospect for opposing offensive lines. Deep, varied rotations in the front four mean offensive linemen have to be ready to handle a constant barrage of blitzes; with defensive coordinators constantly tweaking their alignments and moving guys to different spots along the line, it becomes only a matter of time before the weaknesses detailed above are exposed.

Zierlein points to Arizona’s Week 9 opponent, the 49ers, as a case study in what offensive lines are dealing with in 2017. San Francisco features a trio of former first-round picks on the defensive line: DeForest Buckner, Arik Armstead, and Solomon Thomas. “They will find a matchup. If they think your left guard is your weakest pass blocker, they’ll take their [best pass rusher] and put him inside. They don’t have to just be a tackle or an end. They’re looking for matchups.”

When a defense establishes that upper hand even briefly, it reveals one of the key distinctions between the realities of playing on each side of the line. “If you got one sack every game as a D-linemen, you’re a Hall of Famer,” Schwartz says. “If you give up on sack every game as an offensive linemen, that’s your last season playing.”


There was plenty to like about Jack Conklin going into the 2016 NFL draft, but Robinson says that what ultimately convinced the Titans to take the Michigan State product eighth overall was fairly straightforward. “When you put the tape on, it’s pretty simple: He blocked his guy,” Robinson says. “At the end of the day, that’s the most important thing for an offensive lineman. Whoever you’re supposed to block, you block him. It may not always look pretty. He may not look like the world’s best ballroom dancer out there, but he got on his guy, and he blocked him.”

This may sound like common sense rationale, but it sheds light on one final problem teams have encountered when trying to locate quality offensive linemen. Some of the worst draft misfires in recent years have come when high picks have been spent on offensive linemen whose vast potential has made it easy to overlook their fundamental deficiencies. The best example might be Lions tackle Greg Robinson, who was taken no. 2 overall by the Rams in 2014. Evaluators and coaches fell in love with Robinson’s size, strength, and mobility dating back to his days at Auburn, but that didn’t mean he was ready to be a consistent presence in the NFL. The same goes for the Giants’ Ereck Flowers, who’s disappointed in three pro seasons after being selected ninth overall out of Miami in 2015.

There’s no denying that a ridiculous athletic profile is a component of some of the league’s best offensive linemen, especially at tackle. Lane Johnson, Joe Thomas, and Tyron Smith are three of the best athletes in the history of the position. The problem for offensive linemen, though, is that having that kind of uncommon athleticism is better served in helping a player reach his ceiling than in establishing an acceptable baseline for performance. As the league struggles to hone the skills of its offensive linemen—in part because of their background in spread offenses, in part because of their accrued lack of practice time, and in part because of myriad other factors—Bentley feels that it’s essential for teams to seek out players with projectable traits, even if those traits don’t necessarily blow people away. “[Coaches say], ‘I can’t develop this player,’” Bentley says. “Fine. At least [the traits that] I have on film from college are based on an identifiable, transferable skill set that at minimum is going to show up in the NFL. And in that reality, you usually have a player that can keep his head above water.”

The challenge for coaches and evaluators becomes determining which skills are transferable without much development. Bentley thinks this starts by examining the simplest stuff, like a player’s pre-snap stance, before then evaluating his understanding of angles and leverage. Zierlein primarily values intelligence, and not the kind that players can show by working on a white board. He wants to know how surprised offensive linemen will be when they’re presented with opposing twists and blitzes.

For Bentley, solving the game’s most glaring positional crisis has become about learning how to deal with the factors that have created it. “[Coaches] are never getting back more time,” Bentley says, “and they shouldn’t!” It’s up to decision-makers across the league to discern what type of players represent the best bets, and the stakes for getting that right are high: The quality of line play goes a long way in determining how much exciting offense appears on TV every Sunday. Other than unearthing a dozen great young quarterbacks, the NFL’s best path to avoiding unwatchable football is to create a larger pool of serviceable offensive linemen. It’s that pursuit that may have front offices changing what they look for at the position.

“Everyone’s on the market for a new car, and everyone has budgets for a Maserati,” Bentley says. “But the problem is when you’re trying a build a player and [considering] the climate we’re doing it in, putting a Bentley or a Maserati on a dirt road isn’t exactly the best way to go about it.”


https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2017/11/2/16596392/offensive-line-crisis-league-midseason

I know the cba has strict limits on what teams can require of their players, but I wonder the browns could encourage their starting o line to attend the line camp Bentley runs. A chance to learn and get reps together. Team pays of course and naturally it would be voluntary. But it would make us a better team come football season.

Problem being college players don't play against NFL type defenses either. The talent and speed of pass rush specialists and more complex and disguised defenses seem to be more where the problem is. Dumbing down your OL will only cause defenses to tear up NFL QB's.

I think you are mistaken if you think the NFL hasn't evolved. I was hoping we could talk about OL play, but oh well...

We have a hard time communicating. I meant the NFL has evolved in terms of overall football. It's just that some things that work in college don't work in the pros because the players are so much faster and stronger.

I will gladly start a thread, or peen can, about whether or not the pros or colleges have evolved more.

I was just hoping we could talk about the OL on this thread. I wasn't mad at peen. The OL is always a big conversation point around here, so I thought it might be cool to delve a bit deeper into the topic.

Then again.......maybe not. LOL

They play against them in college. Most people are faster when younger Even 5-6 years.

Most people are faster when younger that older.


Fast defenders came out of the SEC back in the day. So did the spread type O to counter.


I am not arguing, complaining, or anything else. I am just saying the game of football has evolved, and the NFL is lagging in that evolution.

They want to keep playing their game, but they keep getting players who don't play that game.

Except what's the first thing every rookie says when asked about their first year?

Everyone is so much faster.

Everyone is so much faster.

Fair enough.

As I read that I think Peen was making a similar point to yours that I bolded above. I think he is making that same/similar claim.

I think this is the prefect thread to delve into the details about the difficulty of evaluating OL prospects in today's environment.

I'll add to that that to my unknowing-eye, evaluating OL prospects has always proven to be quite the guessing game...it just seems to me that there is still quite the guessing game in that regard...but the game has changed.

If that makes any sense.

Vers and Willie,

I've questioned this before, perhaps you guys can offer a little insight/opinion... how much of the difficulty in assessing and transitioning is due to unrealistic expectations? Each position along the line requires its own specific skill set. So specific in fact that its not a simple matter of just flipping from side to the other.

Yet I feel like there's constant talk about versatility and assumptions that a guy can play multiple positions. I'd hope that as you lay longer in the League you could develop additional skill sets and we've seen how you can move some guys around when someone goes down. But how how may careers are hamstrung because a team drafts a guy who is said to have the potential/ability to play multiple positions, and splits his reps between those positions versus identifying one position to fully concentrate on first?

There really is no other area on the roster where we acquire guys and say "hey, this guy could play X, if not then Y, and if not then Z" and then split their reps their first year in the League. We may see a little mixing at DT/DE or DE/OLB, but I feel like even in those situations they are viewed with a more critical eye and a more tempered expectation.

I guess in summation my question could be: is it that the identification part is difficult, or could it be a lack or proper (focused) player development?

Alright........I will start off w/a short little thing and see how it goes. If the conversation remains about football and OL play/evaluation, I will add more. And I am always open to questions.

The thing I see, and most folks who know OL play see, is that blocking in the NFL is much more difficult than blocking in college spread offenses.

In those spread college offenses, the O-linemen are almost always in a 2-pt stance. They are not asked to block a "man." They are are told to go to a space, or as coaches say, an "area." Area blocking is huge. Those guys are acting like a shield, if that makes sense. They move to an area and are non-aggressive.

In the NFL, ZBS can also be very effective. See Shanny and his dad. However............and this is vitally important......NFL players are far more talented than collegiate players in terms of speed and strength. Thus, in addition to blocking in areas, you also have to win match-ups because the defenders can knock your block off and/or run around you in an instant.

That is where it is hard to evaluate collegiate offensive linemen. Can they do both? It's really hard to tell.

No one is saying that it's the job of colleges to prepare players for the NFL. That would be dumb. Colleges need to take care of themselves. The argument is that because colleges are not a minor league [see MLB] for the NFL, it's become increasingly hard to evaluate two position groups. One, is the OL. The other are QBs. The latter is for another discussion.

If anyone is interested, I can talk about playing w/your hands in the dirt next. Or technique. Those are both vitally important. Of course, I will answer questions about what I just said in this post or honestly debate the talking points.

I just don't want to get into the personal stuff.

So...whether those funky offenses are the future in the NFL, how in the world can anyone - those knowing of OL talent or not - figure out how a guy translates to the NFL?

I personally like the NFL way more than college...although I spend waaaay too much time watching both. This 'evolving' thing is very intriguing to me...with the caveat that I'm not much for evaluating OL play under any scheme or level.

Good question and you make a lot of sense. I kinda want to hold off on that one a bit, but if this thread evolves, I will get to it.

I don't want to blow you off, though. Think back to the part of the article about the Collective Bargaining Agreement and how it limits how often teams can practice. Again, no unit is more dependent on reps than the OL. I know that sounds odd to most fans, but I'm telling you that it is true.

Keith brought up a great point earlier about asking o-linemen to work out w/Bentley. I will add working out w/any OL coach in the off-season. I have been adamant that Baker should work out w/a qb coach in the off-season and the same goes for other positions.

Listen, technique is huge for an offensive lineman. I hope we can talk about that in the near future. I am HUGE on technique. So is Joe Thomas and he was the best who ever did it in regards to technique. You are playing chess against dudes who only play checkers. Anyway..........I think it would be a great idea for offensive linemen to find guys like Bentley and work out w/them during the off-season.

My contention is that you just can't switch to such an offense 100 per cent because of the huge discrepancy in talent. In the NFL, you have to mix things up. Being one-dimensional is career suicide. That is why I said the NFL has evolved.

To my recollection, I believe that I read about technique most-often when reading about a prospect who has 'good' technique but lacks agility/functional-strength/etc. I rarely recollect reading where 'technique' was touted in the ranking of an NFL draft prospect (meaning rating one guy higher than another) or even an evaluation of a current NFL player. I am left to conclude that technique is very important/critical, but it doesn't get talked-about as/so much because most people - myself included - either don't really know what 'technique' really means or simply struggle to see it - again like me.

Technique:

Try this yourselves. Get in an athletic stance. For those who don't know what that is, align the outside of your feet w/the outside of your shoulders. Pretend you are playing LT. Move your right foot back about a third of the way back from your left foot. This is key because you want to be able to open up on the speed rush. If your outside foot is forward, it is really hard to open up quickly. If they are totally even, it's a bit slower than if you you stagger your feet a bit. Try all three. Drop your left foot and open up from all 3 alignments. You will quickly see what I mean.

With other teams allowed to sign players off of your practice squad, I think PS sizes should be much larger, to allow for continuity.

I imagine there are some very large, young men who might struggle with that chest-over-thighs thing being re-programmed into their muscle memory and brain. I assume you will touch on that when commenting on attributes.

1. Do you think agility will be more highly regarded with our staff? I remember back with Shanahan and the ZBS he placed agility at a premium (which is why Mack excelled IIRC)

2. Your importance of intelligence is something not many people would think much about ... Do you think that’s the reason why CONTINUITY is so important? Because the group of 5 can think together and understand defensive fronts/blitzes and recognize them quicker

I agree with you. Doesn't that go for every position though?

I will try and answer this now and then do the attributes this evening.

It is hard to keep your chest over your thighs. You have to bend your knees and lean forward a tad at the waist. That isn't a natural move, but it's huge because it provides:

--Good balance
--Leverage

Joe Thomas is probably the best I ever saw at this. It was one of the reasons I was so high on him leading up to the NFL draft.

You mentioned that it was hard to do for a 50 year old man and that some big, young guys would struggle w/it, too. They do struggle. Especially when they get tired. Mechanics go to hell when you are tired. Also, a lot of those bigger dudes have relied on power their entire life. They could easily push dudes around in youth football, middle school, and high school. Some can do it in college. Cam Erving is a classic example of that kind of guy. He never perfected his technique and I remember Bentley and Joe T getting on him about it.

Related to that is that a lot of guys get sloppy w/their technique. You have probably read reports on linemen "playing too high," or "lunging," or "feet get sloppy," etc.

mac's first video has some very good footage of Joe Thomas. The visual will help you better than my words. As you watch it, even when they are not talking about it, try and focus in how Joe keeps his chest over his thighs and how balanced he is. It also helps him get lower than the defender. It's classic stuff. You really see it in pass pro and you can tell how balanced he is.

Here is the link again for anyone who wants to view the video. It has a ton of good stuff in it besides just the chest over thighs thing.

One more thing, when I talk about attributes tonight, I will talk about feet. Listen to some of the comments from opposing defenders about Joe's feet. It will give you something else to think about and why they are so important.

Joe T. started out as a TE at Wisconsin. Switched to LT his sophomore year.

To any and all OL gurus, former coaches/scouts/players...how much of the technique and 'intelligence' is something that a guy either is born with or not? I don't want to use the word instinct - because I think that's a little silly sometimes - but it's the best word I can think of at the moment.

I'm not suggesting that a guy cannot learn the technique or learn the thinking part of the game, but some guys just never get that...our former guy G Rob comes to mind. How many different coaches have tried to get THAT guy to get it?

Conversely, when Joe Thomas talks about it it's as if he always knew it...as in always and from the get-go. Not that he didn't work his asterisk off to be the best at it...but man...it comes from him like breathing or a heart beating.

Hard to say for sure. It has to vary from player to player. It is also one of the reasons why I included intelligence as an important attribute. Some guys struggle w/learning. Others don't want to invest the time.

I have always thought that naturally big and strong guys can have a tougher time because their high school coaches don't emphasize teaching the techniques and nuances of the position because they are already dominating the competition.

Hopefully this post doesn't kick the thread off into the draft direction, but I would imagine that evaluating technique doesn't impact how much you like or dislike a potential pick, but just where you want to pick him. If Olinemen can fall in the draft because they're not strong enough, and need to spend a year in an NFL strength program before they're ready to go, I can't imagine approaching a guy that needs to work on his technique any differently (other than technique being more important).

Alright.........time for attributes. A lot of OL guys agree my takes. Others rate some other attributes higher. So, I am not saying these are facts. It's just what I looked at when I was scouting.

I will say that these attributes vary by position. For instance, brute strength is way more important for a RG than it is a LT or C. Quick feet are way more important to a LT than any of the other positions. Agility is very important to a LG. Decent feet and strength are attributes of good RTs.

I'm going to focus in on LTs in this particular post and will gladly branch off to other positions if people have questions. I will say that my list of attributes are important to all positions along the line. Some more than others.

1. I go back and forth on number one, but I am going to say pad level. Balance, technique, flexibility, being a natural knee bender and having flexible hips are huge. Playing w/leverage is probably the most important thing for o-linemen. We talked earlier about Joe Thomas and how he got his chest over his thighs. We saw mac's video. Joe bent his knees and had flexible hips. That's huge. We all know this deep down, right? Try lifting something heavy w/out bending your knees. Then, try it while bending your knees. Most kids have wrestled. Low man wins, right?

2. Footwork. I think this is huge for LT's in particular, but also all of the positions on the line. A guy w/quick feet can off-set most everything a pass rusher or run stuffer can do. We heard the pass rushers from opposing teams talking about how great Joe T's feet were.

3. Hand placement. It's important to get your outside hand outside on the defender, whether it be the arm, shoulder, hip, or thigh. The inside hand should be right under the bottom of the outside shoulder pad. You want to prevent the defender from getting outside. We often talk about outside containment for Edge dudes. Well, the OT wants to make sure he can't get outside. In the running game, I like gap/angle blocking. This is where you go downhill and you want to aim your facemask for the defenders far armpit. You drive him while using your back arm so it looks like a chicken wing and helps prevent him from spinning and getting free. This is where the chop, chop, chop comes into play.

4. Intelligence. I like smart guys on the line. Especially in zone blocking schemes like we used to run when I was coaching. The Browns are supposedly running a ZBS this upcoming year, right? I think that is right??? Anyway, intelligence is a big factor on understanding how, where, and when to block. This isn't some dumb-ass man blocking where you hope you overpower a dude. Btw...........some OL coaches love man blocking and I'm probably making them mad w/this one. LOL

5. Agility. I like guys who have the ability to do combination blocks. That is where you chip your buddies guy and then proceed to the second level to take care of a LBer or safety. Agility is also very good for guys pulling and getting down the field to spring runners for larger gains.


6. Strength. I don't place as much importance on this as some others, but man, having great strength is an asset. I don't think I have to explain this one. We all get it.

The next thing I would like to talk about is the CBA and how it affects the OL.

As I mentioned earlier, no unit needs more reps than the OL. Offensive lines must work cohesively. This is HUGE!!!!

So, the CBA takes away practice time and where does that leave the OL? I say that it puts them in a precarious position because they are not as in-sync as they should be.

I have said this many times, but it can't be emphasized enough. Continuity among the OL is extremely important. These guys need reps working together. It's like a synchronized swim team or a chorus line. Everything must be done in unison. This is especially true in a ZBS.

I think another problem for NFL offensive lines is the lack of continuity on most OLs across the league. Teams used to keep the their lines together. But, player movement has changed that.

Earlier, I mentioned intelligence as an attribute. Think about all the things the OL has to do. Not only must you be in a good stance, display good hand placement, use good footwork, etc... but, you have to make your own pre-snap reads. The center position is big for that, but all the guys have to be on the same page. I will also mention that the QB is also responsible for these pre-snap reads. The OL has to recognize fronts, who the Mike is, where possible blitzes are coming from, potential Xs and stunts, etc.

That is a lot of responsibility. And the thing is that the OL has to do that cohesively. They have to know when to slide to help a teammate or pass a defender on to another guy. They must orchestrate their movements in-sync.

That takes a lot of practice time and it involves trusting your fellow linemen to all be on the same page. Changing lineups due to losing free agents, injuries, retirement, and poor performance all hinder the development and cohesiveness of solid OL play.

I think the Brown's coaches did a terrible job of handling the unit last year. Too much shuffling of the personnel. I hope that this year's staff picks out their starting 5 early and then stays w/that group to allow them to build chemistry and develop cohesiveness.

The chess game before the play, is as exciting as the play itself sometimes.

Awesome. Monster backs unite!!!

Tough dudes played that position. And then there was me. LOL, just kidding. I used to like to bring the pain.

Wouldn't the wider stance hurt your mobility/agility? Do interior linemen have dramatically different stance than the tackles?

Low man wins--- That big guy is licking his chops on the first play. He's thinking about knocking me on my can. He's most likely gonna try to put a paw on each shoulder pad to steer me around. That's good for me because while those hands are coming up and out I'm thinking about blocking his belly button! I'm getting under those hands and under his shoulder pads. If I can get under his pads and pop him up, I don't care how big he is, he is already off balance. I can take him left or right.

Pulling is technique too---

This is very true. We saw it in one of the Joe T videos and we talked about it a little bit earlier in the thread. I think most people understand the concept. I just wanted to bring up Dep's point again. Another thing about the "low man wins" comment is that it is important to fire out of your stance. You stay low, like your running out of a tunnel and explode into the man you are blocking. A lot of players want to stand up first, then attack. We used to call it "coming out of a chute." The key is to hit him before he gets his hands on you. This leads to other things Dep mentioned, such as hand placement and chopping w/your feet. Balance is key, but so is tenacity.




We taught pulling a little differently. Folks, this is one you can actually try at home. It helps you get a feel for the process. So, let's say you are going to pull to the right for our particular example. You are in your stance, and while staying low, throw your right elbow back at about hip level and at the same time your right foot is opening up/pivoting so that your toes end up parallel to the LOS and your right foot is perpendicular and even w/your left foot. We used this technique to get some depth for our pulling linemen. We didn't want them to get tangled in traffic. Bad things can happen if another lineman gets pushed back. Thus, a little depth can be very helpful.

One other thing I want to mention is that Dep did mention leading w/the foot in the direction you are going. That might sound a little weird, but it's true in so many instances of good OL play. We used to do a lot of gap--or angle--blocking in our ZBS. That is where you travel on a 45 degree path and block the man who is either shading you, the next man down, or the first guy to cross your space. Those three things are related to defensive alignments, stunts, blitzes, etc. Anyway, let's say you are playing LG and you have a DT or NT who is shading to your right and is aligned between you and the Center. Like Dep said, lead w/your right foot [in this particular situation] and turn that foot so you are going to move at a 45 degree angle. Stay low. Aim your face mask for his opposite arm pit. Bury it in there while punching and holding onto to the bottom of his far side of his shoulder pad. Joe demonstrated this in one of the videos. This creates a lock and your hands are inside, so they won't call holding. Your back arm is like a chicken wing. You want that elbow up and out so the guy doesn't spin out of your grasp. You then drive and chop, chop, chop. If the hole is behind you, simply keep driving him to your right. If the hole is in front of you, turn him by putting a lot of force on his outside shoulder.

Well, this thread isn't as popular as those who are centered around bickering and insulting, but I'll try yet again to talk some football.

Well, this thread isn't as popular as those who are centered around bickering and insulting, but I'll try yet again to talk some football.

These are just my opinions and not all who know OL play will agree. But, I will try and talk about what I think are some important attributes of each individual position along the OL. Different schemes obviously change things and some players transcend things, but this is just a general look at the individual positions for those interested in learning more about OL play and/or how to evaluate possible draft picks and guys on our roster.

I am going to list them by importance. Of course, this is just my opinion.

LT: I pretty much addressed this one already, so I won't spend a ton of time on it. Keys are quick feet, technique, agility, hand placement, balance, recovery moves.

RT: The game is changing due to more excellent Edge rushers, but teams are still right handed for the most part....especially in 11 personnel. RT's are not typically quite as athletic, agile, and possess the footwork as LT's. They tend to be stronger and better at run blocking. See Conklin.........our new RT. But, because the game is changing, good feet and technique are becoming more important.

Center: He is important because he makes the line calls. He needs to intelligent and quick reader of fronts. He, along w/the QB, is responsible for pass protection calls. I know that might not sound important, but it truly is.

LG: This guard is typically more athletic. He pulls more, traps more, goes to the second level more, etc. A lot of these guys played LT in college. See Bitonio.

RG: This guy has the worst skill set, typically. However, he is usually very strong and is a good run blocker. Ideally, you want your worst o-lineman to man that position.

Wow , what would Chubb do behind an average line ?

There is nothing more rewarding to me as a fan than being able to impose your will on another team.