No surprises here.
Sucks for the Switzer family after all they have been through. Good luck!
Why does it feel like this has happened to Montreal Meander for the last 10 training camps?
It kinda does feel that way, doesn't it?
He shows enough promise to keep taking a look, but never develops, OR he's just a solid camp body that will help the team get some work done and will be back again next year.
Hopefully, for him, he makes the practice squad and can actually collect a paycheck. He gets none of the money from the contract that was just terminated.
And, he's been here every camp since 2018:
https://overthecap.com/player/montrel-meander/7284/
I think it would be hard for Meader to make the PS. Those guys are usually later cuts., not the first guys cut. No?
Maybe this is our way to try to slid him through?? We are good enough that other teams are going to pay attention to our cuts.
I'm surprise #34 Robert Jackson isn't on this list.. He was easily the worst DB out there sat
Should get a participation award of some stripe, neh? Respect for "nose to the grindstone" even though this feels like a faceplant again. Puts him on an even keel with Tim Tebow.
Thanks for playing!
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I'm surprise #34 Robert Jackson isn't on this list.. He was easily the worst DB out there sat
Would you base a whole players career on just one, the most recent, preseason (pile of trash) game.
Do you sell your car every time it needs gas?
This isn't a Browns cut, at least not recently... but this doesn't fit anywhere else.. Antoinio Callaway was cut by the Chiefs today....
This isn't a Browns cut, at least not recently... but this doesn't fit anywhere else.. Antoinio Callaway was cut by the Chiefs today....
The guy had some talent, but he obviously didn't work to get better, and he has been a egghead most of his life.
The odds were always pretty slim for him.
I'm surprise #34 Robert Jackson isn't on this list.. He was easily the worst DB out there sat
Would you base a whole players career on just one, the most recent, preseason (pile of trash) game.
Do you sell your car every time it needs gas?
That doesn’t even make sense. Jackson was on team last year and got lit up every time. This isn’t the first time we’ve seen him. I give him close to zero being on this team
[quote=THROW LONG][quote=leadtheway]I'm surprise #34 Robert Jackson isn't on this list.. He was easily the worst DB out there sat
You very-well may end up correct that he gets cut...but there are some things to consider here:
He's a big corner at 6'2" and 207 lbs. He is significantly bigger than most of the other CBs;
He's an UDFA entering his 4th yr. I won't be surprised if he gets another year here to develop...but no one expects he will ever be a starter on any team;
He is a very good ST guy. He's a bigger version of Tavierre Thomas in that respect;
I think we will keep 6 or 7 CBs. There are 9 on the roster right now. He's battling for that last spot...whether it's 6th or 7th. In a normal season, he only gets mop-up snaps on D...last year he started game 17 and the first playoff game...games we both won. No team's 6th or 7th CB looks good when forced to play.
I'm much more worried about our top 3 CBs (outside) right now than I am our bottom 1 or 2.
The Cleveland Browns terminated defensive lineman Damion Square's contract. nfl.com
Makes sense. Of all the talk about the depth at WR, his name hasn't even come up.
Indeed. It may also be to clear a spot for someone pending.
I think we will see IR getting used a LOT this year, now that players can easily come back off it in just a few weeks.
This cinches Whatshisname being the opening day kicker, though.
Makes sense. Of all the talk about the depth at WR, his name hasn't even come up.
I'm more surprised he wasn't in the first wave of cuts. I'd at least heard of some of those guys. I had no idea this guy was even on the roster.
Any cuts yet besides Parkey to Ir and Holllins?
Any cuts yet besides Parkey to Ir and Holllins?
From a post above yours...
The #Browns have made the following moves, reducing the roster down to the required 80 before tomorrow's deadline:
Placed on IR:
TE Connor Davis (shoulder)
LB Montrel Meander (Achilles)
K Cody Parkey (quad)
Waived:
WR Alexander Hollins
T Alex Taylor (ankle-injury designation)
Any cuts yet besides Parkey to Ir and Holllins?
Yes. It's in the tweet posted by Milk.
Placed on IR:
TE Connor Davis (shoulder)
LB Montrel Meander (Achilles)
K Cody Parkey (quad)
Waived:
WR Alexander Hollins
T Alex Taylor (ankle-injury designation)
I think we will see IR getting used a LOT this year, now that players can easily come back off it in just a few weeks.
This cinches Whatshisname being the opening day kicker, though.
No, whatshisname was in 2018, the guy who kicked that line drive in the Jets SNF game. Don’t remember who it was though
. You’re thinking of McLaughlin
I think we will see IR getting used a LOT this year, now that players can easily come back off it in just a few weeks.
It's been brought up in other threads (so you likely know by now, but just in case) that anyone placed on IR before (a certain time on) Sept 1 cannot be brought back during the season. These guys are done for the year.
Greg Joseph banged a 45 yarder
Zane Gonzales had been waived missed 4 kicks,
Sept 20th 2018
Ryan Santoso reportedly kicked a 66 yd FG and a 63 yd FG in practice last week.
https://giantswire.usatoday.com/2021/08/...trade-interest/
with Stefanski being non-committal about McLaughlin being the kicker on opening day despite Parkey going to IR, I'd imagine we are part of who is asking them about a trade.
Since both teams just got really good looks at each others roster, I wouldn't be surprised if a player swap is forthcoming.
Possibly one of our bevy of OL, Forbes or Dunn?
I don't trust the Giants to have found anything worthwhile at kicker in the past that anyone would want to trade for.
Look what they did at quarterback, look what they did at a lot of things, they aren't a good team, there are a lot of things to avoid.
I wouldn't want a sucky kicker off the Giants in place of a simarlarly bad kicker from the Browns because I trust the Browns 2nd string logic of previous times, to be better than the giants 2nd string logic of the same times. The Giants cast off is a cast off.
the Browns had 2 kickers, Parkey and McLaughlin, in competition. Parkey got hurt, and I suspect that means he was losing the competition.
I wouldn't want any part of the Giants castaways. Of Course I don't think I'd EVER want any part of any Giants Castaways from their team almost in all of History except for I liked ELi in his sophomore year of college.
Oh that's right, OBJ was a Giant. Well he did better for them than he did here didn't he.
But the Giants are a terrible franchise they can't possibly have a decent back up kicker.
One thing that is not nonsense, the Browns, are, consistent, they haven't been able to have a reliable kicker since Phil Dawson moved to texas.
Another thing that is consistent, the Browns have a lousy situation at cornerback, and not consistently healthy players, trying to pass off potential as substance.
It's unsettling.
The FO can trust their eyes and they just watched him practice last week. smh
T Alex Taylor (ankle-injury designation) .. Is he now a free agent ?
T Alex Taylor (ankle-injury designation) .. Is he now a free agent ?
Another team can claim him, although injured, but if no other team does, he reverts to our IR list.
The FO can trust their eyes and they just watched him practice last week. smh
I hope no team ever makes a decision on a kicker based solely on showing they can kick well over such a small time frame as one week, and considers nothing else, specifically a much larger time frame.
So never draft a kicker? Only sign whatever street FA's that are out there that haven't been signed by any other team?
How else do you think they do it?
You got that from me saying they should look at a timeframe greater than one week?
Ouch, I know some dont like or trust parky that much but ar least he has experience kicking in Cleveland stadium in the colder months. 0this could turn out to be a major loss depending on who we can find in the upcoming weeks.
You got that from me saying they should look at a timeframe greater than one week?
We have all the tape every other team has, be it pro tape or college tape.
You never know about the pressure factor until they do it. That is why teams are very reluctant to switch their kicker and those guys stay with the same team for years and don't hit free agency, even when some young gun comes to camp and lights it up.
Kicking is kicking. You can find that out in camp, and even on tape. There are things the coach can do to simulate pressure in camp.
Make the kick, practice is over. Miss the kick, everybody except the kicker runs 3 laps of the field. Make him stand in the middle of the field at the 50. Then do it again, same conditions. It doesn't take all that many angry eyes staring at you to feel the pressure. That pressures the snapper, holder, and kicker.
UMHO, everyone, especially kickers know everything is on tape- maybe not bathroom breaks, but EVERY kick counts. Their living is based on every kick. And they've been doing it again for years, there is lots of tape. Get another guy as competition in the last week, let the chips fall.....Go Browns!!!
How much tape is there of Dawson talking about how to kick in Cleveland....he should have made a million just talking.
I don't trust the Giants to have found anything worthwhile at kicker in the past that anyone would want to trade for.
Look what they did at quarterback, look what they did at a lot of things, they aren't a good team, there are a lot of things to avoid.
I wouldn't want a sucky kicker off the Giants in place of a simarlarly bad kicker from the Browns because I trust the Browns 2nd string logic of previous times, to be better than the giants 2nd string logic of the same times. The Giants cast off is a cast off.
the Browns had 2 kickers, Parkey and McLaughlin, in competition. Parkey got hurt, and I suspect that means he was losing the competition.
I wouldn't want any part of the Giants castaways. Of Course I don't think I'd EVER want any part of any Giants Castaways from their team almost in all of History except for I liked ELi in his sophomore year of college.
Oh that's right, OBJ was a Giant. Well he did better for them than he did here didn't he.
But the Giants are a terrible franchise they can't possibly have a decent back up kicker.
One thing that is not nonsense, the Browns, are, consistent, they haven't been able to have a reliable kicker since Phil Dawson moved to texas.
Another thing that is consistent, the Browns have a lousy situation at cornerback, and not consistently healthy players, trying to pass off potential as substance.
It's unsettling.
Even bad teams have good players, for reference, just see the Browns since 1999, plenty of bad teams but plenty of good players.
Brad covers the Browns for the OBR and has broken some news. I think this might be interesting to see if he is right.
He also speculates that if D'earnest Johnson gets cut, No No Nation might make the team.
Hodge has been solid for us. However, we are at the point of having to be financially smart too. It appears like our WR room is deep and versatile
I told everybody not to count Jo Jo out. The Browns love his skillset, but at this point it's all a numbers game and we will be forced to let guys go who we would like to keep.
Not a surprise really.
Felton fills a bunch of roles including receiver.
Schwartz will play.
So it really was Hodge versus Higgins.
Higgins may not be as good as Hodge in special teams but he produced as a receiver in the clutch.
I wonder about Billings.
McDowell may push him off the team.
The starters would be Day and Malik Jackson.
I told everybody not to count Jo Jo out. The Browns love his skillset, but at this point it's all a numbers game and we will be forced to let guys go who we would like to keep.
It's too bad for the kid, but it's hard to stick as pretty much a punt returner only..I discount kickoffs for the most part. These days kickoffs are only returned if that is the special teams call.
Making it even harder is when the coach favors 4 tight ends and a fullback on the roster.
Last season we had plays designed just for Jo JO on offense. If he would not have been injured you would have seen him on the field lined up all over the place.
Hodge has been solid for us. However, we are at the point of having to be financially smart too. It appears like our WR room is deep and versatile
He never impressed me. Higgins is twice the player he is and Higgins is not the most gifted athlete in the world. He just gets open!
Hodge has been solid for us. However, we are at the point of having to be financially smart too. It appears like our WR room is deep and versatile
He never impressed me. Higgins is twice the player he is and Higgins is not the most gifted athlete in the world. He just gets open!
He also doesn’t play special teams.
Exactly. That’s a big caveat. Hodge has been a decent player for us all around
I'm not going to lose any sleep over that. Are you? Probably.
The Danger Hodge faces on making the team again is,
Sure he may do special teams, and I like his blocking. But he is a WR. this is the NFL.
They may not want to but they can get somebody, somewhere who can play special teams but, eventually, eventually you have to bring it at the position you play.
They have to cut somebody and the thing about cutting this team is so many players bring special qualities that are hard to replace. What is the special quality about Hodge's game that is hard to find anyone to replace?
I can't think of one that's why I think he's on the bubble by default.
If you count missed catches that end in drives stalled and forced to punt. Over 2 years. I'm fine losing someone who can go to a division rival and argue with their quarterback.
You're coming around Throw. I like it.
I'm not going to lose any sleep over that. Are you? Probably.
No sleep lost. Just stating a point. It’s pretty obvious that Hodge is on the outside looking in.
I have nothing against him.
Fortunately we have adults running the team now to make that decision.
Last season we had plays designed just for Jo JO on offense. If he would not have been injured you would have seen him on the field lined up all over the place.
I think Schwartz will probably get those plays now.
Hodge is basically Higgins without the oversized personality and hype. But he's a better athlete and plays special teams.
If Higgins can get us a pick, I'd probably take it and keep Hodge. Without the pick, it's a toss up, but I think Higgins is the more likely to potentially bring us one with the name recognition.
in the 4th preseason game, JoJo missed a Td catch iirc, and they showed coach Kevin on the SL turn to another person, coach type on the sideline and say something to him, to which the 2nd guy started to Shrug as if he didn't know, I just wonder what the question was.
I cant see Jo Jo making the team over Hodge
Billings has done little to show that he deserves to make the roster.
Mack Wilson made a play here and there. He might get cut.
JoJo no way he makes this roster.
Hodge makes the team.
Last season we had plays designed just for Jo JO on offense. If he would not have been injured you would have seen him on the field lined up all over the place.
Maybe so. Something tells me that won't or isn't the case this year.
I think Schwartz gets some of those gadget plays if speed in the primary issue involved.
I think both DPJ and Felton show they have ability in the kicking game.
It's always sad when you see a kids dream of the NFL ending. Especially one you like because he seems to be a good kid.
A lot of good kids will be cut by the Browns tomorrow. But it's great to finally have a team that's good enough to do that.
Not sure why Higgins did not play?
Frankly I think his job is on the line.
If the Browns decided to put Schwartz on the pracitice squad because he missed so much time. Then Hodge and Higgins are safe.
Higgins for whatever reason seemed to get little playing time in pre-season.
I think there is reason to believe that Hodge beats Higgins out.
Hodge seems to do whatever it takes to play. Higgins has fallen out of favor with a number of previous coaches. I don't know what the deal is with him. Hard to say how the staff views Higgins. He played last year because of injuries to others.
He does not play special teams.
This could be the surprise cut of this camp.
I’d cut the kicker to get Phillips on the roster then either re-sign the kicker we cut or get a new kicker.
I cant see Jo Jo making the team over Hodge
I keep Hodge and make Felton our returner. That dude needs the ball in his hands. Seemed decent as a returner and makes plays when he is on the field.
Natson is just so small, I don't see him lasting too long anyway.
I’d cut the kicker to get Phillips on the roster then either re-sign the kicker we cut or get a new kicker.
Thinking outside the box ... this makes sense.
I’d cut the kicker to get Phillips on the roster then either re-sign the kicker we cut or get a new kicker.
Thinking outside the box ... this makes sense.
We did this a couple years ago with Greg Robinson. I wouldn’t be surprised if we cut someone like Malcolm Smith only to sign him back after the waiver period.
I can't see any way Natson makes the team.
OBJ, Jarvis, DPJ, Higgins, (who has a hamstring, thus did not play) Schwartz, and Hodges. I can't see more than 6, especially with Felton being a 2-way player at RB/WR. I can see 4 RB, with Chubb, Hunt, Johnson, and Felton. We probably keep 3 TE, with Hooper, Njoku, and Bryant making the team, along with one of the FB. (I think that the other will his the PS, and would likely be unclaimed on waivers, and so few teams use a FB) 9 OL, along with the 2 QB, and that should round out the offense. I do think that Harris's spot is in danger, given Hance's ability to play Center. That's 25.
3 specialists, and that's 28.
10 DL, of one shape or another. 5 LB, and 10 DB. I think that Billings is in serious danger of not making the team. I do think we may keep 11 DB and 9 DL, but we'll see.
Based on what we see - Billings should not make the team.
If Natson was on the bubble, I don't see how he made a case to stay in that last PS game. You can't have your jitterbug returner get caught from behind.
He got IR'd due to an ACL last year. I wonder if he's in that "fully healed but not really" stage of his recovery.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see us do that with Malcolm smith or a vet that we think may not be in the game plan against KC as much
in the 4th preseason game, JoJo missed a Td catch iirc, and they showed coach Kevin on the SL turn to another person, coach type on the sideline and say something to him, to which the 2nd guy started to Shrug as if he didn't know, I just wonder what the question was.
Sources say Stefanski asked the assistant coach "Who farted?".
I’d cut the kicker to get Phillips on the roster then either re-sign the kicker we cut or get a new kicker.
I wish I had come up with that one.
People who can't see any way Natson makes the team.
Case for. How it Could.
(Want/need= enough Wr's for the KC game.)
(unknown to us but known to the team a possibility OBJ needs more time before game action.
( Unknown but known to them, Schwartz needs more development time.) -- both make the team but if the team feels they aren't ready/safe to contribute vs. KC. --
VS. KC they want 4 Wr's ready to go not named Felton.
( Davion Davis is suspended first 2 games)
First 3 wrs', (ready to contribute) are, Landry DPJ, and Higgins. +1 needed.
The numbers by plan dictate waiving both Hodge and Natson with the intent to bring someone back to be ready against KC.
Finally if Hodge gets picked up by another team, then the Bronwns look to bring someone on to play against KC.
At this point, Natson beats out others Jamarcus Bradley, Swtizer, others, on Speed, and versatility, and familiarity.
Then Natson is on the roster against KC, just saying there is a way to see how it would end up happening.
I actually prefer Stanton over Janovich. Stanton has shown a great deal of versatility.
I actually prefer Stanton over Janovich. Stanton has shown a great deal of versatility.
You've been on a roll today Pit. That's like the 3-4 post today that I nodded in agreement with while reading. Maybe I have COVID.
Cut Both Fullbacks after they both clear waivers, bring one back.
Same, cut both Wr's after they both clear waivers bring one back.
Same cut all DB's after 5 and 4, after they all clear waivers bring one back.
Same, Linebacker... wait.
at linebacker I don't know what they do with Tony Fields.
Malcolm Smith comes back without exposure to waivers if they put Jacob Philips on Ir designated to return, but after that, don't know what to do with the linebackers.
Well it is the football forum and not politics. So there's that.
Bone, I thought Mack was all over the field last night and played well. I think he will start and be a solid contributor to our defense.
Three obvious guys first. I’d guess we’d like to get all three on to the practice squad.
He has played a lot of snaps.
Last night he had a decent game. He made a couple plays.
However, there are times he seems late to the play.
Hard to say based on the limited amount we actually get to see. They count all practice. So, he may be fine.
Taki and Wilson came in together. Taki played better last year.
Wilson came to camp hungry. I wish him well.
Coaches see all. They know.
Walker and Smith are vets. JOK will be a stud.
Fields has not played. Lee was pretty visible.
Not sure how it will shake out.
This sort of leak should NOT happen. These things should not be in the public before the team talks to the player. I don't give a damn that she wants to break news, she is NOT the person ANY player or family member should get this info from first.
My guess is that the players have been told, they told their agents, and the agent told the reporter. That’s usually the chain of command.
Not surprised about Natson. Felton made him replaceable.
Hodge may be safe now.
Landy, OBJ, Hollywood, DPJ, Schwartz and Hodge.
Davion Davis is a tough cut.
Not surprised about Natson. Felton made him replaceable.
Hodge may be safe now.
Landy, OBJ, Hollywood, DPJ, Schwartz and Hodge.
Davion Davis is a tough cut.
They don’t have to cut Davis because of his suspension.
Be curious to see if they try and bring Franks back to the PS, assuming no other teams signs him to their 53.
Even better. Won't have to make a decision until the suspension is up.
Also, wonder if Stanton and Janovich both make the roster with Franks being let go.
Too bad on Franks.....maybe he will be slated for the practice squad.
Franks would be a great PS candidate
It looks like we’ll be keeping 4 RBs and 6 WRs … and making Janovich a FB/TE
You can't always trust Twitter! lol!
Just remember, a lot of teams are releasing players now. Practice squads are unfilled until tomorrow, everyone who did not make it is a free agent.
In order to pick up a player, you have to release someone on the your 53 team roster and I believe that they have to stay on the 53 team roster for a minimum of 4 weeks.
So, it is a bit more challenging for other teams that may have eyes on a proposed Browns practice squad player. They move up to the team roster as the practice squad does not exist. It is rare to see a player move from practice squad to practice squad.
Some former Browns who have been cut:
HOU: RB Dontrelle Hilliard, OT Rodrick Johnson
KC: WR Antonio Callaway
DET: WR Breshard Perriman, WR Damion Ratley
SEA: CB Pierre Desir
I suspect there’s a good deal of strategy in timing of releases. The guys you release first are ones you suspect have value to other teams but not so much that they’re likely to get put on the 53. Then you’re watching the other cuts. The ones you know will garner a lot of interest will serve as “cover” for the same of your own. The last are the ones you truly think won’t get picked up. Does that sound right?
I suspect there’s a good deal of strategy in timing of releases. The guys you release first are ones you suspect have value to other teams but not so much that they’re likely to get put on the 53. Then you’re watching the other cuts. The ones you know will garner a lot of interest will serve as “cover” for the same of your own. The last are the ones you truly think won’t get picked up. Does that sound right?
I don’t think it matters. Teams are going to look into every player that is cut.
So does this mean Joe Jackson is in (for now) with the last d end spot?
Surprise about Gustin.
So yes, Jackson must have beat him out.
Unless something else is in the works.
I suspect there’s a good deal of strategy in timing of releases. The guys you release first are ones you suspect have value to other teams but not so much that they’re likely to get put on the 53. Then you’re watching the other cuts. The ones you know will garner a lot of interest will serve as “cover” for the same of your own. The last are the ones you truly think won’t get picked up. Does that sound right?
I don't know? When can teams put in waiver claims?
I also don't know about the "cover" part. I don't think teams lose sight of players they might want because other teams release players as well.
That doesn’t make much sense to me. Maybe we more of a developmental type of guy on the practice squad?
From what I saw Jackson (#91) had a very good preseason. I won't be surprised if he makes it on the roster.
BIG Surprise to me hopefully the guy who beat him out (Probably Jackson) Plays as well or better than Gustin did ...
This sort of leak should NOT happen. These things should not be in the public before the team talks to the player. I don't give a damn that she wants to break news, she is NOT the person ANY player or family member should get this info from first.
how do we know the players don't already know?
That doesn’t make much sense to me. Maybe we more of a developmental type of guy on the practice squad?
I don't know why we couldn't bring him back on the PS...but he will have to pass through a lot of potential waiver claims. If we felt he was a back-up in wait, we would have kept him on the 53.
That doesn’t make much sense to me. Maybe we more of a developmental type of guy on the practice squad?
I don't know why we couldn't bring him back on the PS...but he will have to pass through a lot of potential waiver claims. If we felt he was a back-up in wait, we would have kept him on the 53.
Thanks for the info P.
No real shockers so far. Most of those will come tomorrow..tonight is the last ditch effort to trade off a player or two...be it a guy we plan to cut due to no room on the roster, or a player we don't plan to cut but is deemed expendable. D'earnest or Higgy might be guys who are safe to make the team but could be traded if the price is right.
That doesn’t make much sense to me. Maybe we more of a developmental type of guy on the practice squad?
I don't know why we couldn't bring him back on the PS...but he will have to pass through a lot of potential waiver claims. If we felt he was a back-up in wait, we would have kept him on the 53.
I would have been surprised by this after PS game 1, but in game 2 and especially last night's game he missed some really wide open guys. So, not surpised by this. Although if they kept him it would not have been a shock to me either.
I would have been a bit shocked if they had kept him, as in on the 53.
I don't think he is the guy to take Keenums job, and that is what we are seeking.
BIG Surprise to me hopefully the guy who beat him out (Probably Jackson) Plays as well or better than Gustin did ...
has to be... we released all of the other backup DE's
BIG Surprise to me hopefully the guy who beat him out (Probably Jackson) Plays as well or better than Gustin did ...
has to be... we released all of the other backup DE's
My guess is we will be claiming a few edge guys.
BIG Surprise to me hopefully the guy who beat him out (Probably Jackson) Plays as well or better than Gustin did ...
has to be... we released all of the other backup DE's
My guess is we will be claiming a few edge guys.
I almost wonder if we plan on using McDowell or Day as a situational DE.
This sort of leak should NOT happen. These things should not be in the public before the team talks to the player. I don't give a damn that she wants to break news, she is NOT the person ANY player or family member should get this info from first.
how do we know the players don't already know?
I ASSumed and overreacted.
#keyboardWarriorAngst
BIG Surprise to me hopefully the guy who beat him out (Probably Jackson) Plays as well or better than Gustin did ...
has to be... we released all of the other backup DE's
My guess is we will be claiming a few edge guys.
I almost wonder if we plan on using McDowell or Day as a situational DE.
Yes. And we will claim a few guys.
Senat to IR … that’s a good thing IMO
Senat to IR … that’s a good thing IMO
Is that official. Is he on IR before the initial 53 and then out for the season not available to return this year?
OH NO! I like Senat.
It is possible that a guy like Porter could return on the PS, if he goes unclaimed.
So far he is the only mildly surprising move.
JMHO, Porter will be claimed....guarantee it, just like Namath...G0 Browns!!!
updated list:
Pos Player
DE Curtis Weaver (per Ian Rapoport)
S Sheldrick Redwine
QB Kyle Lauletta
DT Marvin Wilson (per Tom Pelissero)
TE Jordan Franks (per Rapoport)
WR JoJo Natson (per Mary Kay Cabot)
LB Tegray Scales (per Cabot)
TE Kyle Markway (per Cabot)
DE Porter Gustin (per Pelissero)
DE Cameron Malveaux (per Pelissero)
S Javonte Moffatt (per Nate Uhlrich)
S Elijah Benton (per Matt Lombardo)
CB Brian Allen (per Jake Trotter)
LB Willie Harvey Jr. (per Brad Stainbrook)
CB Manny Rugamba (per Adam Caplan)
OT Greg Senat to IR (per Cabot)
10 or 11 more to go depending on what we do with Davis.
That's a little harsh, isn't it?
Davis doesn’t count against the 53.
He got IR'd due to an ACL last year. I wonder if he's in that "fully healed but not really" stage of his recovery.
That's a possibility. And it would be a shame too, if he just needed more time to get his head straight, post-rehab. I doubt he makes our team for this season, but would love to see him write his story somewhere else. I liked the kid, and was pulling for him.
really no surprises on this list, maybe redwine considering Delpit is about as reliable as kevin love. I see us picking some players on defense up and I think we will probably see a few surprise cuts from the LB core. I really wouldn't be surprised if Billings gets cut either
JMHO, Porter will be claimed....guarantee it, just like Namath...G0 Browns!!!
Exactly what I'm thinking.
Davis doesn’t count against the 53.
correct. but, if we cut him, we would have to cut 11.
Davis doesn’t count against the 53.
correct. but, if we cut him, we would have to cut 11.
He won’t be cut.
Davis doesn’t count against the 53.
correct. but, if we cut him, we would have to cut 11.
He won’t be cut.
likely not. however, if we do cut him, we will have to cut 11.
Davis doesn’t count against the 53.
correct. but, if we cut him, we would have to cut 11.
He won’t be cut.
likely not. however, if we do cut him, we will have to cut 11.
Stefanski said they’ll evaluate his spot after the suspension.
It's no surprise to keep 4 Centers, this late?
Davis doesn’t count against the 53.
correct. but, if we cut him, we would have to cut 11.
He won’t be cut.
likely not. however, if we do cut him, we will have to cut 11.
Stefanski said they’ll evaluate his spot after the suspension.
It's no surprise to keep 4 Centers, this late?
Cut's aren't over yet Throw.
To me the early cuts are the guys who hold no real value to the team. The guys still on the roster are guys that do and we hope we can trade a player or two, except for maybe a couple if we are able to swing a trade...instant cut guys.
We know what other teams need and know who they are holding for the same reasons as us.
A moment of prayer for the wives of the married guys who get cut....
Delpit tore his Achillies?
That is not a easy injury to come back from.
Expectations have to be just get him healthy.
Let him ease back into playing.
Not sure I get rip on him.
Delpit tore his Achillies?
That is not a easy injury to come back from.
Expectations have to be just get him healthy.
Let him ease back into playing.
Not sure I get rip on him.
But he's played 0% of the games so far... 0%!
Please don't go to the Ratbirds.
None the less, I doubt we give up on him at this point.
I'd give it this season to see where it goes. At least a portion of the season.
Yep, at this point I feel like our goal should be to get Delpit healthy and ready by mid-season, to add late season depth.
Garrett Gilbert got cut. I wouldn’t be shocked if he ended up on our practice squad.
Garrett Gilbert got cut. I wouldn’t be shocked if he ended up on our practice squad.
Could be if Lulettea isn't brought back.
Apparently, it has already been determined the Browns will not be bringing Lauletta back.
Garrett Gilbert got cut. I wouldn’t be shocked if he ended up on our practice squad.
Could be if Lulettea isn't brought back.
Supposedly Lauletta is not coming back.
They'll probably treat Delpit the same as they treated Ronnie Harrison last year and bring him along slowly.
I'm surprised and/or doubtful about the report Lauletta isn't going to be brought back to the PS. IMO, you always have a development-type guy to work on at the QB spot.
I'm surprised and/or doubtful about the report Lauletta isn't going to be brought back to the PS. IMO, you always have a development-type guy to work on at the QB spot.
This is where it is coming from. Not 100% set in stone, obviously.
Yup. Opinions on her reporting aside, I'm surprised to hear this.
As of 10 am EST where does our roster number stand?
I'm surprised and/or doubtful about the report Lauletta isn't going to be brought back to the PS. IMO, you always have a development-type guy to work on at the QB spot.
Lauletta is 26 so he is not the type of player you are describing. I would also guess we bring in someone younger to develop.
Just my take on Delpit.
I think Woods sees him in a major role.
However, I think they will sprinkle him in on packages at first. Let him get settled in and comfortable in the scheme but more importantly just get used to playing again.
By game eight he will be a regular role player.
IMHO that would be a great scenario for the Browns. Maybe even better than him starting now...have a fresh difference maker injected mid-season.
#Browns roster cuts so far:
- K. Lauletta
- S. Redwine
- C. Weaver
- J. Natson
- J. Franks
- T. Scales
- Marv Wilson
- K. Markway
- C. Malveaux
- P. Gustin
- J. Moffatt
-E. Benton
-B. Allen
-W. Harvey
-G.Senat(IR)
-C.Gossett
-J.Kelly
-E. Lee
Roster stands at 62, 9 more cuts.
Apparently, it has already been determined the Browns will not be bringing Lauletta back.
I know there was speculation, but I don't know it is an official statement.
I agree we might want to go another direction, but there isn't anything that prevents our signing him if he clears waivers
The only slight surprises so far for me is maybe Redwine and Moffatt. Redwine was just so inconsistent. And though it’s not a surprise I really love how Kelly runs and would like to see him stashed on PS.
I doubt Kelly goes unclaimed. He is borderline starter for most teams.
Bummer on Hodge. I’ll miss the air guitar riff. Tough cuts mean our team is good now.
If he clears waivers, I wonder if they try and bring him back on the the PS.
Kinda surprised BOTH Natson and Hodge were cut.
Bummer on Hodge. I’ll miss the air guitar riff. Tough cuts mean our team is good now.
If he clears waivers, I wonder if they try and bring him back on the the PS.
I doubt he clears waivers but it if he does I would assume he’s a lock for our practice squad.
Odd.
So 5 receivers with Davis in limbo for two games.
Is Bradley still on the roster?
JC...word has it, that Mack Wilson is on the trade block...I'm sure it would be for a late round pick.
Odd.
So 5 receivers with Davis in limbo for two games.
Is Bradley still on the roster?
yeah, I saw no news on him being cut...however it may come soon (I see him as a PS guy for us)
I wonder if we might have an agreement with a player or 2 to bring them back after the team can put a couple of guys on IR?
I wonder if we might have an agreement with a player or 2 to bring them back after the team can put a couple of guys on IR?
It doesn’t matter if someone claims them. I haven’t seen any vested veterans get cut yet so that means everyone has been on waivers.
And I believe any team that would claim him would take on that salary as well. Depending on where teams value him, he could not be picked up simply as a byproduct of his salary.
Are players who were RFAs waived (and subject to claim) or cut? (and not subject to being claimed)
Are players who were RFAs waived (and subject to claim) or cut? (and not subject to being claimed)
I believe waivers.
Yep, Davis was pretty hard to ignore in preseason.
JC...word has it, that Mack Wilson is on the trade block...I'm sure it would be for a late round pick.
we turned down offers from KC multiple times
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but Davion Davis (as well as McDowell) mostly or completely were playing against backups (at best) to guys that weren't going to make rosters. My understanding is that (generally) guys that are playing in the second halves of preseason games are definitely battling for roster spots, with odds being low.
So with that in mind, my questions are:
1. Why didn't the likes of McDowell and Davis get rewarded with earlier (higher-competition) reps as the preseason went on?
2. Hodge played with the starters in the final game (made a nice catch on a Baker pass, even), but didn't make the 53.... should we be reading anything into this?
My guess is that they knew they were going to cut Hodges and gave him time with the first team to get good tape out to other teams.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but Davion Davis (as well as McDowell) mostly or completely were playing against backups (at best) to guys that weren't going to make rosters. My understanding is that (generally) guys that are playing in the second halves of preseason games are definitely battling for roster spots, with odds being low.
So with that in mind, my questions are:
1. Why didn't the likes of McDowell and Davis get rewarded with earlier (higher-competition) reps as the preseason went on?
2. Hodge played with the starters in the final game (made a nice catch on a Baker pass, even), but didn't make the 53.... should we be reading anything into this?
McDowell either started or came in very early in the Falcon game.
My guess is that they knew they were going to cut Hodges and gave him time with the first team to get good tape out to other teams.
2+ million for a 5th WR didn't help either. Maybe he loses his phone for a couple days and comes back?
This surprises me. I thought he showed enough.
I guess that means Billings avoided the ax.
This brings us down to 4 remaining interior Dlinemen (including Togai), right?
Billings hasn't been released yet, so we're at 5.
We may keep 4 DT and 5 DE, since Clowney can easily move inside, situationally.
Jackson
Elliott
McDowell
Togiai
Billings
As of right now.
I guess that means Billings avoided the ax.
I am somewhat surprised at this. He did not hold his own in the preseason games. I thought Day looked much better.
j/c, I have two more to come to get down to 53.
A bit surprised about Day, Hodge, and Lee
A bit surprised about Day, Hodge, and Lee
I’d bet Day and Lee are back after we IR a couple guys.
A bit surprised about Day, Hodge, and Lee
I’d bet Day and Lee are back after we IR a couple guys.
Yep. Day doesn't have to clear waivers and can be resigned tomorrow after placing whoever on IR designated to return.
BUT I also expect some BERRY goodness working the waiver wires and cuts... I don't think signing a kicker is out of the question, at least long enough to get a good look. And Berry might find a couple other upgrades, so who knows what the remaining spots on the bottom of the roster will look like in a week.
A bit surprised about Day, Hodge, and Lee
I’d bet Day and Lee are back after we IR a couple guys.
Yep. Day doesn't have to clear waivers and can be resigned tomorrow after placing whoever on IR designated to return.
Lee either.
I thought Day was a lock.
He played for Woods before and is very versitile.
Day is the only guy that I’m somewhat surprised by.
Day is the only guy that I’m somewhat surprised by.
From the article:
The Browns on Tuesday made the following roster moves to trim their roster from 80 to the required 53 before the NFL's 4 p.m. ET deadline.
Placed on reserve/injured:G Drew Forbes (knee)
T Greg Senat (knee)
Waived:S Elijah Benton
WR Ja'Marcus Bradley
TE Jordan Franks
G Colby Gossett
DE Porter Gustin
LB Willie Harvey
WR KhaDarel Hodge
DE Joe Jackson
RB John Kelly
QB Kyle Lauletta
DE Cameron Malveaux
TE Kyle Markway
S Jovante Moffatt
C Javon Patterson
S Sheldrick Redwine
CB Emmanuel Rugamba
LB Tegray Scales
FB Johnny Stanton IV
T Alex Taylor (from injured reserve)
DE Curtis Weaver
DT Marvin Wilson
Terminated Contract:CB Brian Allen
DT Sheldon Day
LB Elijah Lee
WR JoJo Natson
Placed on reserve/suspended by commissioner:WR Davion Davis
Was going to post this.
Day is a surprise.
Also 8 DL is a surprise. Thought it would be nine.
Fields I thought would be put on the IR.
Maybe some slight changes still to come.
But here we go!
The 2021 Cleveland Browns.
You are only one team, one time. Each year rosters change by almost a third.
There is no more "wait till next year."
This is it. This team, this year. Ready to go.
Quote: There is no more "wait till next year."
I agree. With Baker on a rookie deal, we have a golden opportunity
I guess that means Billings avoided the ax.
I am somewhat surprised at this. He did not hold his own in the preseason games. I thought Day looked much better.
Yeah I noticed Billings being bullied with the Giants, for a fire hydrant plugger...that's not a good sign
Is that Mack Wilson. Is he on a boat?