This guy wanted nearly full control in Berea back when he was interviewed. Bullet dodged.

No doubt.

Another bright shiny object that looked great and was a disaster.

McDaniels followed that unwritten rule of "he's not my QB" or "we can't win with that QB" for a second time that totally backfired. A Raiders playoff team in 2021, McDaniels was expected to take the Raiders over the hump - instead he busted the team up namely at the QB position.

The NFL is still a league that's all about winning. Keep in mind, McDaniels lost his QB to injury for 2 games this season too. The old story of "excuses are like azzholes, everyone has one" has reared its ugly head again. As Vince Lombardi always said: "just Win Baby" is as true today as it was in the 60's. There's many more HC's and FO's sitting on the win or else hotseat. McDaniels is just the first to go - Stay Tuned!

he'll never get another HC job ... he was a disaster both places

Raiders are not a good team at all, especially on offense

"Just win Baby" was All Davis not Vince Lombardi.

Fire everyone sure has worked for all those teams in the AFC West.

Let's see there is KC.

17 head coaches have filled the position for: Chargers, Raiders, and Broncos since Reid has coached the Chiefs.

Current record for those teams 9-14.

Just win baby.

I think that was Al Davis.

Screw the Raiders.

Mahomes has just decimated the franchises in that division lol

haha thats great

I don't know anything about him outside of the fact he is Michael Lombardi's kid. So....it was probably a good move no matter what.

It wasn't a question of if, but when. Now we know when.

truthfully they should have kept Bisaccia

Another coach that Tom Brady made look better than he actually was. BB is an very good coach but without Brady he wouldn't have won as much. JMO

And the evidence is in to substantiate that.

Whoops, got my quotes mixed - Vince's was "Show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser." It's hard to sell yourself when you're sporting a .375 winning pct immediately following a playoff year unless you're a Stefanski who can turn in 2 complete seasons of a .441 winning percentage immediately following a playoff year. Of course, when your team has been to 5 Super Bowls and winning three, the expectation level might be a little higher. I guess that string even gets a little shorter when your division archrival has been to 3 of the last 4 Super Bowls.

Cue up the Jim Harbaugh to LVR rumors.

McDaniels, a true trailblazer!

This year is FLYING by; I can't believe it's Coach Firing season, already.

He's horrible. It's almost a shame he'll never get the chance to be Hue Jackson 1-31 horrible.

#TrustTheGut

Rex Ryan trust his gut!? That's a whole lotta trust right there my man.

Josh McDaniels Fired

In 2020 we almost signed this nonce.

No, this is the way. /purple

Vegas odds where 2-1 he’d be gone before thanksgiving.

I don't understand "he had Pierce speak on his behalf" in a team meeting to air everyone's grievances.

A lot of dots need to be connected in that tweet. Here's the whole thing:

that's just wild

Tom Brady was a security blanket for a lot of people wasn't he?

Honestly I don’t know if we’ll ever truly know how much Brady carried that coaching staff.

Well, when you look at the track record of all BB's assistants who went on to coach elsewhere there hasn't been much success. Maybe Mike Vrabel in Tennesse but he was a player first.

I don't know about that. BB doesn't look like a coaching God anymore.

We can put to bed the Bill Belichick dominate coach fantasy. It was all Tom.

I have a pretty good feeling it was mostly Brady in NE and in TB…..and Gronk didn’t hurt that success.

It was both.

Great players make their coaches look great, but those rosters weren't full of Tom Brady's. They were full of role players.
Conversely, bad or mediocre coaches, as we've seen WAY too many times here in Cleveland, can utterly waste a talent laden roster.

It takes both, and still requires luck.

Probably so.

It's also probable that Don Shula wouldn't have won as many games and championships if he didn't have Johnny Unitas, Bob Griese, and Dan Marino. Lombardi would have missed Bart Starr. Paul Brown never won a pro championship without Otto Graham as his QB.

and if Brady had come to Cleveland, he wouldn't have won anything at all.

I agree wholeheartedly with the last few posts. I live in RI. and listen to the local sports radio shows frequently. They're all up in arms over what's going on with the Pats. They had a great run for 20 years and it's over. I don't dislike the Pats but their fans are another matter. For the last 20 years they've walked around with a certain air and sense of entitlement. In the past when they lost an AFC championship game some of the fans said they weren't going to watch the Super Bowl. I hope they don't contend for the next 10 years sort of like what we've been through. As far as BB and Tom Brady are concerned if I had to put numbers on it, I would say their success was 75% Brady and 25% BB. BB could have never won what he did if he had the parade of QB's we've had and if we drafted TB he wouldn't have won here either. He probably would have had to retire in his early 30's from all the injuries he would have sustained. JMO