Dawg Talker 3 round Intersite Mock grades and discussions - 04/15/10 05:41 AM
Since I had such a good time doing the intersite mock draft and reading what everyone had to say, I was hoping someone would start this thread since the last one got locked up right around the time posters started putting the divisions picks in order. Ill post everyones 3 rounds picks and have a few questions everyone can awnser.
1. Rams: superbowldogg--QB Sam Bradford, Oklahoma
2. Detroit Lions: Loki --OT Russell Okung, Oklahoma State
3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: TopDawg16 --Ndamukong Suh, DT- Nebraska.
4. Washington Redskins: Thebigbaddawg --Gerald McCoy, DT Oklahoma
5. Kansas City Chiefs: Davy --Eric Berry, S, Tenn.
6. Seattle Seahawks: Browns26 --Bryan Bualaga, OT, Iowa
7. Cleveland Browns: DeepThreat --Joe Haden, CB, Florida
8. Oakland Raiders: Dawgpound017 --Bruce Campbell OT Maryland
9. Buffalo Bills: CaliforniaBrownsFan --Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
10. Jacksonville Jaguars: THROW LONG --Derrick Morgan DE Georgia Tech
11. Denver Broncos (from Chicago): Kingcob --Rolando McClain ILB Alabama
12. Miami Dolphins: Hooter --Jason Pierre-Paul, DE, South Florida
13. San Francisco 49ers: legalizewd --Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma
14. Seattle Seahawks (from Denver): Browns26 --Taylor Mays, S, USC
15. New York Giants: lampdogg --Sean Weatherspoon LB Missouri
16. Tennessee Titans: Mattack --Earl Thomas, S, Texas
17. San Francisco 49ers: legalizewd-- Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma State
18. Pittsburgh Steelers: Steelhack,-- C Maurkice Pouncey
19. Atlanta Falcons: Brownoholic-- Brandon Graham DE Michigan
20. Houston Texans: Moon --C. J. Spiller RB Clemson
21. Cincinnati Bengals:HotBYoungTurk -- Mike Iupati - G -Idaho
22. New England Patriots: Cleveland_clutch-- Jared Odrick DE/DT Penn State
23. Green Bay Packers:Dawgmanincincy--Kyle Wilson,CB,Boise state
24. Philadelphia Eagles:Tubby_Dawg--Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee
25. Baltimore Ravens: Dave -- Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma
26. Cleveland Browns (from Az) DeepThreat --Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers
27. Dallas Cowboys: no_logo_required-- Brandon Ghee, CB, Wake Forest
28. San Diego Chargers: ChargerDawg --Ryan Matthews RB, Fresno St.
29. New York Jets: Buckeyed11 --Jerry Hughes DE/OLB TCU
30. Minnesota Vikings: McCutch_Forever -- Devin McCourty CB, Rutgers
31. Indianapolis Colts: Batman -- Brian Price DT, UCLA
32.Kansas City Chiefs: Davy - Sergio Kindle, OLB Texas
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Round 2
1 33 St. Louis- superbowldogg Notre Dame Golden Tate WR (rights to Tate traded to Tampa Bay)
2 34 Detroit -Loki Patrick Robinson, CB, Florida St.
3 35 St. Louis from (dawgtalker trade Tampa Bay) superbowldogg- Jon Asamoah, OG, Illinois
4 36 Saints -from (dawgtalker trade Kansas City) clwb419 – Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida
5 37 Washington- Thebigbaddawg- Tim Tebow, QB, Florida
6 38 Cardinals- (dawgtalker trade from Cleveland) Frenchy - Demaryius Thomas WR Georgia Tech
7 39 Oakland -Dawgpound017 - Everson Griffen, DE USC
8 40 San Diego- (from Seattle) ChargerDawg - Terrence Cody - DT Alabama
9 41 Buffalo -CaliforniaBrownsFan - Cam Thomas, DT, North Carolina
10 42 Tampa Bay -(from Chicago) TopDawg16- Kareem Jackson, CB- Alabama
11 43 Miami- Hooter -Arrelious Benn, WR, Illinois
12 44 New England- (from Jacksonville) Cleveland_clutch- TE Rob Gronkowski Arizona
13 45 Denver- Kingcob- Vladimir Ducasse OT Massachusetts
14 46 N.Y. Giants- lampdogg - Lamarr Houston, Univ. of Texas
15 47 New England -(from Tennessee) Cleveland_clutch Thaddeus Gibson OLB Ohio State
16 48 Carolina -Cleveland_clutch Aaron Hernandez TE Florida
17 49 San Francisco- legalizewd Dominique Franks CB Oklahoma
18 50 Kansas City -(from Atlanta) Davy Charles Brown, OT, USC
19 51 Houston - Moon: Nate Allen, S, South Florida
20 52 Pittsburgh- Steelhack Jahvid Best, RB, California
21 53 New England- Cleveland_clutch Chad Jones, S, LSU
22 54 Cincinnati- HotBYoungTurk - Brandon Spikes - MLB -Florida
23 55 Philadelphia- Tubby_Dawg--Center Matt Tennant--Boston College
24 56 Green Bay - Corey Wooten,DE,Northwestern
25 57 Baltimore - Dave - Chris Cook, CB, Virginia
26 58 Arizona -Frenchy - Rodger Saffold OT Indiana University
27 59 Dallas - no_logo_required Alex Carrington, DE/DT, Arkansas State
28 60 Seattle -(from San Diego) Browns26 Jermaine Cunningham DE Florida
29 61 N.Y. Jets - Buckeyed11 Jacoby Ford WR Clemson
30 62 Minnesota - McCutch_Forever Colt McCoy QB Texas
31 63 Indianapolis- Batman Daryl Washington LB TCU
32 64 New Orleans- clwb419 - Tyson Alualu, DT, Cal
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Round 3
1 65 St Louis Superbowldogg WR Eric Decker Minnesota
2 66 Detroit Loki Sean Lee LB SU
3 67 St Louis ::from tampa bay:: Superbowldogg Amari Spievey, Iowa
Redskins (used in suplemental)
4 68 New Orleans ::from KC:: CLWB 419 - Novorro Bowman, LB PSU
5 69 Oakland Dawgpound017 Perrish Cox, CB Oklahoma St.
6 70 Philadelphia TubbyDawg--Jared Veldeer OT Hillsdale
7 71 Arizona ::from Cleveland:: Frenchy - OLB Jason Worilds Va. Tech
8 72 Buffalo CaliforniaBrownsFan-Taylor Price, WR, Ohio University
9 73 Miami Hooter -- Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, CB, Indiana
10 74 Jacksonville THROW LONG Jonathon Dwyer RB, Georgia Tech
11 75 Chicago Punchsmack -- Selvish Capers T WVU
12 76 Giants Lampdogg: (J.D. Walton, C, Baylor)
13 77 Tennessee Mattack - Donald Butler, LB, Washington
14 78 Carolina Cleveland_Clutch- Mike Neal DT Purdue
15 79 San Francisco Legalizewd Morgan Burnett S Georgia Tech
16 80 Denver Kingcob Torrell Troup DT UCF
17 81 Houston Moon: Kevin Thomas CB - USC
18 82 Pittsburgh SteelHack - Eric Norwood LB - South Carolina
19 83 Atlanta Brownholic - Geno Atkins DT - Georgia
20 84 Cincinnati HotBYoungTurk - Mardy Gilyard - WR - Cincinnati
21 85 Cleveland --from Oakland-- DeepThreat Damian Williams, WR, USC
22 86 Green Bay DawgMan in Cincy Jason Fox, OT, Miami
23 87 Oakland Dawgpound017 Jimmy Graham, TE, Miami
24 88 Arizona Frenchy Jerome Murphy CB, South Florida
25 89 Arizona Frenchy Ricky Sapp DE/LB, Clemson
26 90 Dallas NoLogoRequired Dexter McCluster, RB/WR Ole Miss
27 91 San Diego Charger Dawg - Toby Gerhart - RB Stanford.
28 92 Cleveland DeepThreat Reshad Jones, S, Georgia
29 93 Minnesota McCutch_Forever Linval Joseph DT East Carolina
30 94 Indianapolis Batman John Jerry G Ole Miss
31 95 Kansas City Davy Andre Roberts WR
32 96 Cincinnati HotBYounturk - Montario Hardesty HB Tennessee
33 97 Tennessee Mattack - DE Austen Lane, Murray State
34 98 Atlanta Brownoholic - A.J. Edds - OLB - Iowa
Which team had the best draft (other than your own)?
Which team had the worst draft?
Which pick was the biggest reach?
Which player most likely fell the furthest?
Im hoping some grade each team in catagoires from A thru F and some discussions on each teams picks follows.
Another question. I was thinking which route to do the 49ers. Which route in the 1st round would you guys have done with the 49ers first 2 picks.
1st round
13) Trent Williams OT, Oklahoma
17)Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma State
or should I have went
1st round
13) Talyor Mays S USC
17)Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers (heck, maybe Trent Williams would have still been available)
I would have been happy with either scenerio.
I picked Dominique Franks CB Oklahoma in the 2nd. Since I didnt fill the 49ers biggest need at DB I felt it was a must in the next 2 rounds. That pick was my biggest reach and probabley the only pick that will actually be available in the 49ers first 3 rounds, over the players that were available. I really wanted to go Nate Allen but I knew I would get a decent FS later in the draft. I didnt know it would be Morgan Burnett though. The 49ers had a bigger need a FS than SS. I went with Franks because of his ability in the return game. He isnt a game changer in the return game but he does have experiance and in Zone coverage. I was torn between him, Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, CB, Indiana and Chris Cook, CB, Virginia. Owusu had return experiance, better size and combine numbers but I didnt get to watch him play. Franks had experiance in bigger games and playing against better players. Alot of people had Cook rated above both players. Even though I was intigued by Cooks size his combine numbers werent too good, no return experiance, and he didnt stick out to me at all during the college football season. I was really hoping Kareem Jackson, CB- Alabama fell to this spot. I didnt read much on him because he was already picked so I dont know if he has return experiance but he is good enough in coverage that I didnt care. If I picked him the 49ers could have used any round to select anyone with return skills regardless of position.
My 3rd round pick was Morgan Burnett S Georgia Tech. No way he falls this far. Burnett was tied for the nation with 9 ints. and led his team with 149 tackles his sophmore year. He went 4 and 80 something in tackles his junior year. I was origiannly going to go 3-4 OLB, but Safety was a bigger need and I feel Burnett was BPA over the 3 3-4 OLBs I was looking to select- Koa Misi, Utah; Eric Norwood, South Carolina; and Ricky Sapp, Clemson. I had them in that order even though Norwood and Sapp both went in the 3rd round mock and Misi didnt.
Discuss
1. Rams: superbowldogg--QB Sam Bradford, Oklahoma
2. Detroit Lions: Loki --OT Russell Okung, Oklahoma State
3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: TopDawg16 --Ndamukong Suh, DT- Nebraska.
4. Washington Redskins: Thebigbaddawg --Gerald McCoy, DT Oklahoma
5. Kansas City Chiefs: Davy --Eric Berry, S, Tenn.
6. Seattle Seahawks: Browns26 --Bryan Bualaga, OT, Iowa
7. Cleveland Browns: DeepThreat --Joe Haden, CB, Florida
8. Oakland Raiders: Dawgpound017 --Bruce Campbell OT Maryland
9. Buffalo Bills: CaliforniaBrownsFan --Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
10. Jacksonville Jaguars: THROW LONG --Derrick Morgan DE Georgia Tech
11. Denver Broncos (from Chicago): Kingcob --Rolando McClain ILB Alabama
12. Miami Dolphins: Hooter --Jason Pierre-Paul, DE, South Florida
13. San Francisco 49ers: legalizewd --Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma
14. Seattle Seahawks (from Denver): Browns26 --Taylor Mays, S, USC
15. New York Giants: lampdogg --Sean Weatherspoon LB Missouri
16. Tennessee Titans: Mattack --Earl Thomas, S, Texas
17. San Francisco 49ers: legalizewd-- Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma State
18. Pittsburgh Steelers: Steelhack,-- C Maurkice Pouncey
19. Atlanta Falcons: Brownoholic-- Brandon Graham DE Michigan
20. Houston Texans: Moon --C. J. Spiller RB Clemson
21. Cincinnati Bengals:HotBYoungTurk -- Mike Iupati - G -Idaho
22. New England Patriots: Cleveland_clutch-- Jared Odrick DE/DT Penn State
23. Green Bay Packers:Dawgmanincincy--Kyle Wilson,CB,Boise state
24. Philadelphia Eagles:Tubby_Dawg--Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee
25. Baltimore Ravens: Dave -- Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma
26. Cleveland Browns (from Az) DeepThreat --Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers
27. Dallas Cowboys: no_logo_required-- Brandon Ghee, CB, Wake Forest
28. San Diego Chargers: ChargerDawg --Ryan Matthews RB, Fresno St.
29. New York Jets: Buckeyed11 --Jerry Hughes DE/OLB TCU
30. Minnesota Vikings: McCutch_Forever -- Devin McCourty CB, Rutgers
31. Indianapolis Colts: Batman -- Brian Price DT, UCLA
32.Kansas City Chiefs: Davy - Sergio Kindle, OLB Texas
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Round 2
1 33 St. Louis- superbowldogg Notre Dame Golden Tate WR (rights to Tate traded to Tampa Bay)
2 34 Detroit -Loki Patrick Robinson, CB, Florida St.
3 35 St. Louis from (dawgtalker trade Tampa Bay) superbowldogg- Jon Asamoah, OG, Illinois
4 36 Saints -from (dawgtalker trade Kansas City) clwb419 – Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida
5 37 Washington- Thebigbaddawg- Tim Tebow, QB, Florida
6 38 Cardinals- (dawgtalker trade from Cleveland) Frenchy - Demaryius Thomas WR Georgia Tech
7 39 Oakland -Dawgpound017 - Everson Griffen, DE USC
8 40 San Diego- (from Seattle) ChargerDawg - Terrence Cody - DT Alabama
9 41 Buffalo -CaliforniaBrownsFan - Cam Thomas, DT, North Carolina
10 42 Tampa Bay -(from Chicago) TopDawg16- Kareem Jackson, CB- Alabama
11 43 Miami- Hooter -Arrelious Benn, WR, Illinois
12 44 New England- (from Jacksonville) Cleveland_clutch- TE Rob Gronkowski Arizona
13 45 Denver- Kingcob- Vladimir Ducasse OT Massachusetts
14 46 N.Y. Giants- lampdogg - Lamarr Houston, Univ. of Texas
15 47 New England -(from Tennessee) Cleveland_clutch Thaddeus Gibson OLB Ohio State
16 48 Carolina -Cleveland_clutch Aaron Hernandez TE Florida
17 49 San Francisco- legalizewd Dominique Franks CB Oklahoma
18 50 Kansas City -(from Atlanta) Davy Charles Brown, OT, USC
19 51 Houston - Moon: Nate Allen, S, South Florida
20 52 Pittsburgh- Steelhack Jahvid Best, RB, California
21 53 New England- Cleveland_clutch Chad Jones, S, LSU
22 54 Cincinnati- HotBYoungTurk - Brandon Spikes - MLB -Florida
23 55 Philadelphia- Tubby_Dawg--Center Matt Tennant--Boston College
24 56 Green Bay - Corey Wooten,DE,Northwestern
25 57 Baltimore - Dave - Chris Cook, CB, Virginia
26 58 Arizona -Frenchy - Rodger Saffold OT Indiana University
27 59 Dallas - no_logo_required Alex Carrington, DE/DT, Arkansas State
28 60 Seattle -(from San Diego) Browns26 Jermaine Cunningham DE Florida
29 61 N.Y. Jets - Buckeyed11 Jacoby Ford WR Clemson
30 62 Minnesota - McCutch_Forever Colt McCoy QB Texas
31 63 Indianapolis- Batman Daryl Washington LB TCU
32 64 New Orleans- clwb419 - Tyson Alualu, DT, Cal
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Round 3
1 65 St Louis Superbowldogg WR Eric Decker Minnesota
2 66 Detroit Loki Sean Lee LB SU
3 67 St Louis ::from tampa bay:: Superbowldogg Amari Spievey, Iowa
Redskins (used in suplemental)
4 68 New Orleans ::from KC:: CLWB 419 - Novorro Bowman, LB PSU
5 69 Oakland Dawgpound017 Perrish Cox, CB Oklahoma St.
6 70 Philadelphia TubbyDawg--Jared Veldeer OT Hillsdale
7 71 Arizona ::from Cleveland:: Frenchy - OLB Jason Worilds Va. Tech
8 72 Buffalo CaliforniaBrownsFan-Taylor Price, WR, Ohio University
9 73 Miami Hooter -- Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, CB, Indiana
10 74 Jacksonville THROW LONG Jonathon Dwyer RB, Georgia Tech
11 75 Chicago Punchsmack -- Selvish Capers T WVU
12 76 Giants Lampdogg: (J.D. Walton, C, Baylor)
13 77 Tennessee Mattack - Donald Butler, LB, Washington
14 78 Carolina Cleveland_Clutch- Mike Neal DT Purdue
15 79 San Francisco Legalizewd Morgan Burnett S Georgia Tech
16 80 Denver Kingcob Torrell Troup DT UCF
17 81 Houston Moon: Kevin Thomas CB - USC
18 82 Pittsburgh SteelHack - Eric Norwood LB - South Carolina
19 83 Atlanta Brownholic - Geno Atkins DT - Georgia
20 84 Cincinnati HotBYoungTurk - Mardy Gilyard - WR - Cincinnati
21 85 Cleveland --from Oakland-- DeepThreat Damian Williams, WR, USC
22 86 Green Bay DawgMan in Cincy Jason Fox, OT, Miami
23 87 Oakland Dawgpound017 Jimmy Graham, TE, Miami
24 88 Arizona Frenchy Jerome Murphy CB, South Florida
25 89 Arizona Frenchy Ricky Sapp DE/LB, Clemson
26 90 Dallas NoLogoRequired Dexter McCluster, RB/WR Ole Miss
27 91 San Diego Charger Dawg - Toby Gerhart - RB Stanford.
28 92 Cleveland DeepThreat Reshad Jones, S, Georgia
29 93 Minnesota McCutch_Forever Linval Joseph DT East Carolina
30 94 Indianapolis Batman John Jerry G Ole Miss
31 95 Kansas City Davy Andre Roberts WR
32 96 Cincinnati HotBYounturk - Montario Hardesty HB Tennessee
33 97 Tennessee Mattack - DE Austen Lane, Murray State
34 98 Atlanta Brownoholic - A.J. Edds - OLB - Iowa
Which team had the best draft (other than your own)?
Which team had the worst draft?
Which pick was the biggest reach?
Which player most likely fell the furthest?
Im hoping some grade each team in catagoires from A thru F and some discussions on each teams picks follows.
Another question. I was thinking which route to do the 49ers. Which route in the 1st round would you guys have done with the 49ers first 2 picks.
1st round
13) Trent Williams OT, Oklahoma
17)Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma State
or should I have went
1st round
13) Talyor Mays S USC
17)Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers (heck, maybe Trent Williams would have still been available)
I would have been happy with either scenerio.
I picked Dominique Franks CB Oklahoma in the 2nd. Since I didnt fill the 49ers biggest need at DB I felt it was a must in the next 2 rounds. That pick was my biggest reach and probabley the only pick that will actually be available in the 49ers first 3 rounds, over the players that were available. I really wanted to go Nate Allen but I knew I would get a decent FS later in the draft. I didnt know it would be Morgan Burnett though. The 49ers had a bigger need a FS than SS. I went with Franks because of his ability in the return game. He isnt a game changer in the return game but he does have experiance and in Zone coverage. I was torn between him, Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, CB, Indiana and Chris Cook, CB, Virginia. Owusu had return experiance, better size and combine numbers but I didnt get to watch him play. Franks had experiance in bigger games and playing against better players. Alot of people had Cook rated above both players. Even though I was intigued by Cooks size his combine numbers werent too good, no return experiance, and he didnt stick out to me at all during the college football season. I was really hoping Kareem Jackson, CB- Alabama fell to this spot. I didnt read much on him because he was already picked so I dont know if he has return experiance but he is good enough in coverage that I didnt care. If I picked him the 49ers could have used any round to select anyone with return skills regardless of position.
My 3rd round pick was Morgan Burnett S Georgia Tech. No way he falls this far. Burnett was tied for the nation with 9 ints. and led his team with 149 tackles his sophmore year. He went 4 and 80 something in tackles his junior year. I was origiannly going to go 3-4 OLB, but Safety was a bigger need and I feel Burnett was BPA over the 3 3-4 OLBs I was looking to select- Koa Misi, Utah; Eric Norwood, South Carolina; and Ricky Sapp, Clemson. I had them in that order even though Norwood and Sapp both went in the 3rd round mock and Misi didnt.
Discuss