Are three-way-trades legal in football? - 01/24/12 10:54 PM
As in ... are they "doable?"
I suppose you could work them out either way ... but I was just thinking about this with a friend and thought about posting it for all of your thoughts.
What if we did a three way trade with St. Louis and Indy. We obviously have ties (Shurmur - St. Louis and Heckert - Indy's GM from Philly) and also a ton of potential to trade as well.
Just a hypothetical ... if it COULD work out then we could go to #1 and nab Luck. Indianpolis could head to the #2 and take Griffin. St. Louis either gets the top tackle to protect Bradford, or the top wideout to help him blossom.
The caveat is why would Indianapolis want to move down to number two, and it might be that they are going to have a lot of pieces missing. If they think that they can get more out of taking a different QB who is pretty highly rated as well on their board and still get more picks, then why not?
I think the hardest part is coming up with perceived value to make it work. My best attempt....
Browns:
Get: #1 - Indy (Luck)
Give Up: (#4, #22, 2013 First)
Colts:
Get: #2 - *St. Louis (Griffin), #22 Cle, 2013 1st Rounder - Cleveland
Give Up: #1 (Luck), 2012 2nd Rounder
St. Louis
Get: #4 Cle (Kalil / Blackmon), 2012 Second Rounder - Indy
Give Up: #2 (Griffin)
The Benefits seem to make sense ...
Cleveland would have to trade a boatload to get Luck in a strait up deal. BUT ... we could afford to trade just a bit less if the Colts can get something out of it that they would want. We do lose next year's first but we still have a lot of picks to manuever with and don't touch the 2nd through 7th for this or next year's draft.
St. Louis gets the 2nd rounder from Indianapolis (which actually happens to be the 34th). So they do drop 2 spot and lose out from what they could gain by trading down with Miami or Washington for Griffin. BUT they also don't trade down out of the Kalil/Blackmon range. PLUS ... they would have the 33rd and 34th. The two top picks of the second round. With the new draft formatting they could definitely benefit for teams who will go crazy and re-work their boards from the overnight gap for the night between the first and second round. They could also use those two picks, but I think that's the region that teams will try to trade up and take players that fell out of the first round.
Indianpolis: Without naming all of them, the Colts are getting old. If they like Griffin and aren't set on Luck (which I realize they could be) then they could grab a potential elite quarterback and still get some more picks. It makes sense because if they traded straight up with the Browns they could probably get more or at least not have to give up the second rounder. BUT they can still get a first in this year's draft, a first in next years, and Griffin for only a second rounder in this year (which is a lot better deal than trading up from #4 to #2 because it would probably cost a lot more than a second in most cases).
I know this is just a starting point but I was curious as to what would make sense for a three team trade off of this...
I suppose you could work them out either way ... but I was just thinking about this with a friend and thought about posting it for all of your thoughts.
What if we did a three way trade with St. Louis and Indy. We obviously have ties (Shurmur - St. Louis and Heckert - Indy's GM from Philly) and also a ton of potential to trade as well.
Just a hypothetical ... if it COULD work out then we could go to #1 and nab Luck. Indianpolis could head to the #2 and take Griffin. St. Louis either gets the top tackle to protect Bradford, or the top wideout to help him blossom.
The caveat is why would Indianapolis want to move down to number two, and it might be that they are going to have a lot of pieces missing. If they think that they can get more out of taking a different QB who is pretty highly rated as well on their board and still get more picks, then why not?
I think the hardest part is coming up with perceived value to make it work. My best attempt....
Browns:
Get: #1 - Indy (Luck)
Give Up: (#4, #22, 2013 First)
Colts:
Get: #2 - *St. Louis (Griffin), #22 Cle, 2013 1st Rounder - Cleveland
Give Up: #1 (Luck), 2012 2nd Rounder
St. Louis
Get: #4 Cle (Kalil / Blackmon), 2012 Second Rounder - Indy
Give Up: #2 (Griffin)
The Benefits seem to make sense ...
Cleveland would have to trade a boatload to get Luck in a strait up deal. BUT ... we could afford to trade just a bit less if the Colts can get something out of it that they would want. We do lose next year's first but we still have a lot of picks to manuever with and don't touch the 2nd through 7th for this or next year's draft.
St. Louis gets the 2nd rounder from Indianapolis (which actually happens to be the 34th). So they do drop 2 spot and lose out from what they could gain by trading down with Miami or Washington for Griffin. BUT they also don't trade down out of the Kalil/Blackmon range. PLUS ... they would have the 33rd and 34th. The two top picks of the second round. With the new draft formatting they could definitely benefit for teams who will go crazy and re-work their boards from the overnight gap for the night between the first and second round. They could also use those two picks, but I think that's the region that teams will try to trade up and take players that fell out of the first round.
Indianpolis: Without naming all of them, the Colts are getting old. If they like Griffin and aren't set on Luck (which I realize they could be) then they could grab a potential elite quarterback and still get some more picks. It makes sense because if they traded straight up with the Browns they could probably get more or at least not have to give up the second rounder. BUT they can still get a first in this year's draft, a first in next years, and Griffin for only a second rounder in this year (which is a lot better deal than trading up from #4 to #2 because it would probably cost a lot more than a second in most cases).
I know this is just a starting point but I was curious as to what would make sense for a three team trade off of this...