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Posted By: DCDAWGFAN That sense of entitlement - 03/03/16 06:54 PM

MARCH 3, 2016
LEIGH ANNE ARTHUR: TEACHER FORCED TO RESIGN AFTER STUDENT STEALS NUDE PHOTO, STUDENTS PETITION TO GET HER HIRED BACK

AARON HOMER

Students have started a petition to have Leigh Anne Arthur, the South Carolina teacher fired after a student shared nude photos of her, back on the job, WYFF (Greenville) is reporting.

As previously reported by the Inquisitr, Arthur was forced to resign this week after a nude photo of her was discovered on her phone by a student, who then texted the image to his friends. The nude photo soon began circulating throughout the school.

As Arthur explained, she had taken the suggestive photo as a gift for her husband on Valentine’s Day. Fast forward to this week: Mrs. Arthur was away from her desk, patrolling the hallways of her high school between classes, when a student saw the phone on her desk and accessed her photos. He found Mrs. Arthur’s photo, took a photo of that photo with his own phone, and spread it around the school.

To make matters worse, the student allegedly approached Mrs. Arthur, a mechanical engineering teacher at Union County High School, that her “day of reckoning” is coming shortly before the nude photo began going viral at the school.

Union County School District interim superintendent David Eubanks confirmed that the student shared the nude photos through text messages and social media. He also insists that Mrs. Arthur was in the wrong for leaving her phone unlocked and, therefore, making the inappropriate picture accessible to students.

Arthur says that the 16-year-old student who took the photos has yet to be disciplined for stealing her property and invading her privacy.

“He knows right and wrong. He had the ultimate decision to take pictures of my pictures, and he had the ultimate decision to send them out. He had to hit my apps button and to open up all my apps and then open my gallery.”

In addition to losing her job over the nude photo, Mrs. Arthur claims that her privacy and security in her personal life are being jeopardized by the photos as well. She tells WYFF that she returned to her home Wednesday to find four printed copies of the photo in her mailbox. One copy had a handwritten message on the back; Arthur declined to reveal the contents of that message.

Now, students at the school have started an online petition to pressure school administrators to give the popular teacher her job back. Three students – Jacob Barnett, Josh Sinclair, and Matthew Caldwell – publicly put their names on the petition on behalf of “many more students who just want their teacher back.

“Leigh Anne Arthur is the victim of a blatant attack of her privacy. Personal photographs were illegally obtained by a student and were sent to other students in the school(Union County High). After being escorted off of school property, we (the students) are left to believe that she has been forced to, or given little choice but to resign. Mrs.Arthur has not only shown tremendous dedication to her students, but also the mechatronics program itself, often reaching out to local businesses and colleges to get materials that would not normally be available for the class.”

Most of the comments on the petition have been positive, with signers noting that she’s being punished for being the victim of the sex crime, and calling for punishment of the boy who shared the photos.

However, other commenters are not so kind to Mrs. Arthur. One writer said that Arthur “brought porn into the school” and should “absolutely be fired.”

Mrs. Arthur, meanwhile, says she’s may not return to her old job teaching mechatronics — mechanical engineering, electrical engineering, and computer programming – even if school administrators offered to give it back.

As of this writing, the petition to reinstate Mrs. Arthur has received just over 3,200 signatures, well over its authors’ goal of 1,000.

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Unbelievable.. she's fired, kid not punished.. and we wonder where this sense of entitlement comes from. If I had touched the private property of a teacher (let alone what this kid did), I would have been paddled hard at school, suspended, paddled again at home, grounded, removed from sports, then forced to write an apology to the teacher... and this kid is laughing it up while she is out of a job. smdh
Posted By: Swish Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/03/16 07:11 PM
Can't believe she lost her job because she was the victim. that's ridiculous of the school board to do that.

The kid who got in the phone should've been at the minimum, suspended.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/03/16 07:13 PM
You know, I saw this story and feel the same way you do. I would have suffered the same fate and it would have been well deserved. I simply find it beyond understanding.
Posted By: DCDAWGFAN Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/03/16 07:17 PM
Originally Posted By: Swish
Can't believe she lost her job because she was the victim. that's ridiculous of the school board to do that.

The kid who got in the phone should've been at the minimum, suspended.

I can't believe they trumped up a charge to fire her for leaving her phone unattended.. what I read in a different article was that she was in the hall in between classes, like most teachers are... and she was fired for leaving her class unattended... I don't care if she walked out the entire period and left them alone for 50 minutes, if she did, then suspended her for that... but that still doesn't give any of the kids a right to mess with her stuff.
Posted By: YTownBrownsFan Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/03/16 07:17 PM
That's just ridiculous.

Would she have been fired if someone set up a camera outside her bedroom window, and recorded her and her husband having sex?

This country makes no sense sometimes.
Posted By: rockyhilldawg Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/03/16 07:50 PM
Welcome to century #21.

I think we're becoming a country of whiny wimps.

And I don't think it's a "oh they think that every generation" thing.

I don't think that 50-year-olds thought the 18 and 19-year-olds returning after fighting in Europe and Asia during WW II were wimps or winy.
Posted By: Swish Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/03/16 07:52 PM
So war is the only variable to determine who is wimpy or not?
Posted By: Tulsa Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/03/16 07:56 PM
If Erin Andrews can get millions for the invasion of her privacy, maybe this gal can get a few hundred thousand.
Posted By: rockyhilldawg Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/03/16 07:59 PM
Can you imagine a mandatory conscription in the US now or ever again?

Like they have in Russia or China.

Among other things it sure helps with the "per capita wimp factor".

I think a lot of men grow-up, become better citizens.
Posted By: LA Brown fan Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/03/16 08:17 PM
Originally Posted By: Swish
Can't believe she lost her job because she was the victim. that's ridiculous of the school board to do that.

The kid who got in the phone should've been at the minimum, suspended.


Suspension is not nearly enough.

Incarcerated for texting her nude photos around. To me, that comes very close to rape. (JMHO).

He needs a lot more than suspension. Even expulsion would be too soft. (IMO)
Posted By: DCDAWGFAN Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/03/16 08:36 PM
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I don't think that 50-year-olds thought the 18 and 19-year-olds returning after fighting in Europe and Asia during WW II were wimps or winy.

Funny, I read somewhere that the average age of the person fighting in WWII was almost 5 years older than the average age of the person fighting in Iraq back in the 90s....

Secondly, that generation that returned from WWII is the generation that raised the ones who are making the rules today... So something obviously changed.
Posted By: DCDAWGFAN Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/03/16 08:43 PM
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Suspension is not nearly enough.

Incarcerated for texting her nude photos around. To me, that comes very close to rape. (JMHO).

He needs a lot more than suspension. Even expulsion would be too soft. (IMO)

See, this is where I think we have gone off the rails a bit.. you speak of incarceration and expulsion... back in the day, the school would have handled it, the average parents would have handled it, the kid would have paid a steep price... but he would not have had his life ruined because of one incident.

That's the part that I struggle to get behind.. this notion that we always have to get the law involved and every kid has to have this permanent mark on his/her record for some stupid moments of really poor judgement.
Posted By: LA Brown fan Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/03/16 08:53 PM
Originally Posted By: DCDAWGFAN
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Suspension is not nearly enough.

Incarcerated for texting her nude photos around. To me, that comes very close to rape. (JMHO).

He needs a lot more than suspension. Even expulsion would be too soft. (IMO)

See, this is where I think we have gone off the rails a bit.. you speak of incarceration and expulsion... back in the day, the school would have handled it, the average parents would have handled it, the kid would have paid a steep price... but he would not have had his life ruined because of one incident.

That's the part that I struggle to get behind.. this notion that we always have to get the law involved and every kid has to have this permanent mark on his/her record for some stupid moments of really poor judgement.



Like I said, as far as I'm concerned what the student did is very close to a form of rape. I think if someone did that to your wife or your daughter, you might think a little differently.

I believe in mercy, but I also believe in justice. We must have a balanced view. But what that student did is an utter atrocity. Pure evil.

I don't think of this as a minor "incident" I think it is VERY SERIOUS.

Posted By: LA Brown fan Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/03/16 09:05 PM
I was a ROTTEN kid when I was growing up, but I never would have thought of doing something like this. Also, if one of my kids ever did something like this, I would probably have a stroke. Absolutely appalling.

...and then the schoolboard, absolutely no sense of right and wrong.

This country is going crazy because too many times, the kids are allowed to do whatever they please. My wife worked at a middle school, and she said you couldnt do or say anything about kids cussing, the school said you have to let them "express themselves". A teacher even got cussed out by a student, and the kid didnt even get disciplined.

Madness!

We've come a long way, in the wrong direction. frown
Posted By: Swish Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/03/16 09:08 PM
you don't know that because camera phones, social media and photo text messaging weren't around when you was brought up.

you might not have done this, true. but with each passing year, and technology getting better and better, we are dealing with a new set of social standards and policies that past generations just simply never had to deal with. it has been like this for thousands of years.
Posted By: LA Brown fan Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/03/16 09:14 PM
Originally Posted By: Swish
you don't know that because camera phones, social media and photo text messaging weren't around when you was brought up.


What does that matter? thats like saying I don't know if I would have raped someone or not because I didnt have access to roofies (sp?), or I dont know if I would have murdered someone or not because I was never given an opportunity.

What are we, a nation of sociopaths?

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you might not have done this, true. but with each passing year, and technology getting better and better, we are dealing with a new set of social standards and policies


The problem is not technology. The problem is with the human heart. If left to itself, it is capable of great evil...and we are gradually losing all restraint in this country. That's because more and more "do what thou will" is becoming our way of life, and this is the natural result.

Crowleyism has made great advances in our society.
Posted By: Haus Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/03/16 09:21 PM
This story just seems bizarre to me. So a 16 year old student goes through a teacher's phone and basically steals a nude photo of her and then the student forwards it around the school, and the teacher is the one who gets fired?? (or pressured to resign, whatever)

That doesn't make sense. The teacher has already learned an embarrassing lesson I'm sure and the student is the one who should be punished. I disagree with LA that this offense comes close to rape but it's disturbing nonetheless.
Posted By: Swish Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/03/16 09:21 PM
we are a nation of narcissist.

you cherry pick my statement, as i see you didn't quote the part where i said you wouldn't had done it.

but that's the type of stuff i gotta deal with on this board. so whatever.
Posted By: LA Brown fan Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/03/16 09:23 PM
That's fine, you said I wouldnt have done it, AFTER you said "you don't know that". So I apologize for leaving that part out.

Nevertheless, things like this are becoming more and more prevelant in our society, not merely because of technology (You and I ar not using advanced weapons technology to blow people up), but rather because of the "do what thou wilt" mindset of many people in our country.

When the adults act like children, the children become monsters.
Posted By: FBHO71 Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/03/16 09:23 PM
Wonder if she locks her phone now when she isnt near it...the kid is a little you know what...and she should be more smart with her phone, especially if it has nudes on it..what a dummy notallthere
Posted By: Swish Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/03/16 09:27 PM
well look at the "parents"

we argue and bicker and talk trash and name call with the best of them. want an example, look no further than the people in politics, or who have a massive following on radio shows and such.

i'm simply saying that for generations, each group claims the country and society is going to hell in a hand basket(right phrase?) we've been declining for thousands of years now.
Posted By: LA Brown fan Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/03/16 09:33 PM
Originally Posted By: FBHO71
Wonder if she locks her phone now when she isnt near it...the kid is a little you know what...and she should be more smart with her phone, especially if it has nudes on it..what a dummy notallthere


Shouldnt blame the victim.

I was a rotten kid, but I could go to someone's house and there could be money lying around and I wouldnt take it. In fact, one of my friends said that's one thing he liked about me, that he could leave things lying around and I wouldnt steal them. I was thinking "why would I do that?"

Humiliate someone by sending nude pics, goodness gracious!
Posted By: LA Brown fan Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/03/16 09:35 PM
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Posted By: LA Brown fan Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/03/16 09:42 PM
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well look at the "parents"


That's a big part of it, but having good parents doesnt always guarantee you will be a moral person, and having bad parents doesnt necessarily mean you have to be bad. It certainly helps when parents set good standards and are a good example for their kids, discipline them, etc.

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we argue and bicker and talk trash and name call with the best of them. want an example, look no further than the people in politics, or who have a massive following on radio shows and such.


Doesnt really apply to something like texting nude photos of someone, but you are right that listening to people trash other people is not good for kids. But respectful disagreement, that's another story.

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i'm simply saying that for generations, each group claims the country and society is going to hell in a hand basket


Because of progressive moral decline. One part of people get more tolerant of evil, and another part rightly complains about it.

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we've been declining for thousands of years now.


Totally agree with you on this.

Good post.
Posted By: FBHO71 Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/03/16 09:45 PM
I didnt blame the victim notallthere I said she was dumb for not having her phone secure when she knew she had nudes on there...you saying that isnt dumb?
Posted By: FBHO71 Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/03/16 09:48 PM
And I think you can do something dumb and be the victim, which she did. Who in the heck leaves their phone laying around and not locked...especially when its vulnerable to kids or people getting their hands on it??
Posted By: LA Brown fan Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/03/16 09:53 PM
Originally Posted By: FBHO71
I didnt blame the victim notallthere I said she was dumb for not having her phone secure when she knew she had nudes on there...you saying that isnt dumb?


Well, I wouldnt call her dumb, but you have a point that she should have secured her phone. Point taken. But that does not excuse what the student did (as we both know) and that's not reason to get fired. Talked to about being more circumspect, but not fired.It's not like she was being an exhibitionist, the student invaded her privacy.
Posted By: FBHO71 Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/03/16 10:00 PM
No, I agree she shouldve never been fired that was bull.
Posted By: DCDAWGFAN Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/03/16 10:36 PM
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you don't know that because camera phones, social media and photo text messaging weren't around when you was brought up.

I think most of us do know that... I did a lot of goofy stuff as a kid, I messed with teachers but it was usually joking and they knew it. I went too far a couple times and got punished, I deserved it..

But to pick up her phone and actually start going through it? That's like going through her purse.. dude I would have never done that.
Posted By: Tulsa Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/03/16 11:57 PM
Okay she's not dumb, she's an idiot.
Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 12:24 AM
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Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 02:24 AM
this is currently my 7th year as a hs teacher (i've taught all honors kids for all 7) ... and i can firmly say i see a difference in kids now compared with even 7 years ago.

most of them act as if they can do no wrong. they have little accountability or self awareness. they treat most teachers as equals (they certainly aren't afraid or respectful).

i don't know why they act so entitled, but they do

and this is with me loving my job, students, school, staff, etc. i'm one of the lucky ones and i take my job very seriously.
Posted By: RocketOptimist Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 02:29 AM
I'm in my third year into the profession, teaching in entirely different circumstances, but I think part of student misbehavior is kids not feeling like they're valued by their school.
Posted By: GMdawg Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 01:14 PM
Did they school board even count to three yet, or in a none threatening tone warn the student that he would have to at least stand in a corner if he did this 10 or 12 more times? notallthere
Posted By: Damanshot Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 01:22 PM
It's the message children are sent today.

It's like this Tamir Rice thing here in Cleveland. I feel for the family, I really do, But the kid pulled out a gun (toy yes, but he orange thing was gone) and pointed it at officers. They shot him and now the momma is going nuts on the police.

Again, I feel for the family and for his mom, but damn.
Posted By: DCDAWGFAN Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 02:25 PM
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most of them act as if they can do no wrong. they have little accountability or self awareness. they treat most teachers as equals (they certainly aren't afraid or respectful).

i don't know why they act so entitled, but they do

Many of them act as if they can do no wrong because NOBODY EVER TELLS THEM THAT THEY ARE WRONG!!!

It's kind of like the participation trophy argument, there is no right and wrong, no winners and losers, only differing opinions, varying degrees of acceptable, and making sure everybody feels good about themselves all the time.

As for why they treat teachers as equals and show no fear or respect... because kids are smart. They know the game, they know the rules... you can't touch them, the school administrators can't touch them, many of the parents won't touch them.. (and I'm not talking just about "touching them" as in whooping their butts) I'm talking about discipline in general.. they feel above the law because they are treated like they are above the law, this case is a perfect example. The kid is 100% in the wrong but somebody else is paying the consequences for HIS BAD BEHAVIOR. Where is this balance of fear and respect supposed to come from?
Posted By: Haus Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 03:40 PM
“Uncoachable kids become unemployable adults, let your kids get use to someone being tough on them. It’s life – get over it.”
Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 03:58 PM
Having raised two Men and one Woman, my opinion as a parent is it is your duty to raise your children to be independent Men and Women, able to face the world as it is.
They must be able to stand alone, making decisions and being responsible for their actions, just like you.

They do not need you as a friend.
If you fail to provide what the child needs to someday be an independent adult and part of their society, you are a failed parent and adult.
Posted By: dawglover05 Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 04:02 PM
Originally Posted By: rockyhilldawg
Welcome to century #21.

I think we're becoming a country of whiny wimps.

And I don't think it's a "oh they think that every generation" thing.

I don't think that 50-year-olds thought the 18 and 19-year-olds returning after fighting in Europe and Asia during WW II were wimps or winy.


Yep, those darn millenials! The generation that has fought in the two longest U.S. wars, been raised with awful politicians, inherits an ungodly amount of debt incurred by previous generations, and a social security system in complete disarray is surely the root of our problems!

They could stand to learn from the generation that inherited America at its greatest, took out massive pension plans, spent on credit, smoked themselves silly in the 60's and 70's, sported mullets in the 80's, and drove the country toward financial crisis and massive decline.


Sorry for derailing the thread. It's just a topic that really irks me.
Posted By: clevesteve Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 04:08 PM
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Mrs. Arthur, meanwhile, says she’s may not return to her old job teaching mechatronics — mechanical engineering, electrical engineering, and computer programming – even if school administrators offered to give it back.


How could she? That photo is going to follow her wherever she goes to teach. She will always know that most of the kids in the class have seen her in whatever state of undress that photo was. It's a really unfortunate situation.

Yes, the kid should be punished for this, but the reality of the age group is that a large number of teenagers do things that they later find regrettable. Kids (even older kids) don't have a great grasp on the enduring impact of how they treat other people in the moment. I'm sure this little jerk will come to regret doing this in a few years if he doesn't already.

Just a sad situation.
Posted By: Versatile Dog Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 04:13 PM
Perhaps, but I find this disturbing:

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To make matters worse, the student allegedly approached Mrs. Arthur, a mechanical engineering teacher at Union County High School, that her “day of reckoning” is coming shortly before the nude photo began going viral at the school.
Posted By: ErikInHell Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 04:15 PM
The teacher was negligent. I bet should wouldn't leave her purse in plain site. That being said, the kid basically stole her personal property (would it have been different if he dug through her purse and found a polaroid?) and should be charged for theft, if there is such a law about digital theft.
Posted By: gage Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 04:18 PM
It's largely an every generation thing, but I think it's a two way street.

Point - Millenials crash on mommy and daddys couch in the basement
Counterpoint - Mommy and Daddy coddle instead of giving some tough love

Point - Millenials can't find jobs even with college degree
Counterpoint - Mom and Dad thought fine arts majors were good job creation majors

Point - Millenials are entitled
Counterpoint - Mom and Dad made sure their child got a trophy regardless of success or effort

I would caution toward riding one point or another too strongly, but I think there is at least some cause and effect going on. My oldest sibling and I were raised in a very strict household. My brother is struggling a bit right now but he works oil fields in North Dakota. Not an easy job. I'm a software engineering manager for a multi national company. Not an easy job. My youngest brother and sister were coddled a great deal, and I think they are finally starting to find their way, but at a much later age than my brother and I. This is all anecdotal to be sure, but I think there is a sense of logic to it. Myself and my siblings are all millenials, although I'm on the bubble because I was born in 84 smile
Posted By: dawglover05 Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 06:46 PM
Millenials start at '81 I believe, so that includes both you and me ('83). I'm in a similar situation as you, in that I have a good job and clawed my way through some tough times. Being the youngest of six, I haven't gotten a dime of "spending money" from my folks since I got my first job (at 13). Moved out after college. Got my first job after law school during the financial crisis. In like manner to what you inferred, those in my family born in the 90's do seem to have a bit more trouble "launching."

It probably looks like I'm trying to pat myself on the back, but that's not the point. The point is that there are a lot of milennials who eeked their way through the financial crisis, got jobs, and dealt/deal with a ton of adversity.

I brought up the wars point because I both work with millennial active duty/vets and have more than a few friends who fought, and still deal with the mental after-effects. I can't imagine.

Also, the point is not to say that the millennials are not at fault whatsoever...more to point out the constant hypocrisy.
Posted By: DCDAWGFAN Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 08:24 PM
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Yes, the kid should be punished for this, but the reality of the age group is that a large number of teenagers do things that they later find regrettable. Kids (even older kids) don't have a great grasp on the enduring impact of how they treat other people in the moment. I'm sure this little jerk will come to regret doing this in a few years if he doesn't already.

Which is why us older folks like to say, I'm glad I lived in a era where every stupid thing I did wasn't captured and distributed for all eternity... or I'd be in trouble. thumbsup
Posted By: Clemdawg Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 09:24 PM
I still don't own a smart phone, but it's coming- probably sooner than later.

Once I have it, I'll still live by the same code I've followed as a poster here and elsewhere:

"Don't say/do anything that you wouldn't say/do on local TV- with your Mom watching."

I don't mind sharing anecdotes from my past on here, because almost all of them are (or could be) public record. Find the right folks from my life (past & present), and all of them can be verified. No sense in making crap up, if connecting to other fans/potential friends is the goal.

still, I'm prob going to be using that phone more as a browser/receiver than a broadcast tool.

Glad My Parents taught me the value of privacy when I was younger. I forgot on occasion when I was younger, but learned some lessons with each.

I don't need to be showing my [blank] for the whole world to laugh at.
Posted By: Swish Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 10:01 PM
you don't have a smart phone yet? in your profession?

Bruh, you're suppose to be turning up on instagram with the stuff you do.
Posted By: ddubia Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 10:15 PM
I resisted a smart phone for a long time. I have one now and love it. Everything is easier to do than on my old flip-phone. Mostly I use it as a phone and to text. Sometimes for a quick search or driving directions while I'm away from home. I was in Cleveland for a doctor appointment. On the way home I searched for "perogies". I found a place in Parma that has them handmade. I got driving directions and took two dozen fresh, raw perogies home. WooHoo!

Texting is a breeze, (no more pushing the "7" four times to get an "S"). And holy mackerel, it's a great camera! I have an older iPhone 5s and Siri is a blast.

I don't come near to using all the features and capabilities which are vast. I never, ever get into social media with it. I will occasionally check on Facebook on my PC but never on my phone. You'll never see me in public staring at my phone. It's not that captivating to me. I really don't get that.

My carrier is StraightTalk at $45 per month and it's all I need.
Posted By: Clemdawg Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 10:17 PM
too egocentric for my tastes
I'll leave that stuff to the Pop and Jazz folks....


Don't do twitter, either.
seen too many folks put their feet in their mouths...
Posted By: DCDAWGFAN Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 10:24 PM
Social media is only one very small part of the reason why I am connected to my smart phone. Once you start figuring out many of the really cool apps out there (and I'm not just talking about games).. but really neat stuff that makes so many things that much more convenient, then you start to wonder how you lived with out it. It's all in how you choose to use it.

Remember, just because the phone is smart, it doesn't say anything about the person holding it. tongue thumbsup
Posted By: Swish Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 10:26 PM
i would dissect this post, but i'm trying to take a selfie.
Posted By: DCDAWGFAN Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 10:30 PM
Originally Posted By: Swish
i would dissect this post, but i'm trying to take a selfie.

As good looking as you are? How long could it take?
Posted By: Swish Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 10:31 PM
filters, bro. it's all about the filters.
Posted By: EveDawg Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 10:33 PM
I don't do social media at all. Except for business purposes.

I also don't keep up with smart phones. I only got upgraded a couple months ago, and before that had an ancient phone.

I don't do phone apps. Basically all I need are calling functions, a camera, and browsing capabilities.

Not everybody is addicted to social media or mobile apps.
Posted By: Swish Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 10:36 PM
it's not really about addictions, so much as it's about the versatility that comes with it.

Business, like what you do, it's impossible to survive without a social media presence nowadays. Even congressmen and senators have a presence now.

and hell, some of it is just pure entertainment.
Posted By: EveDawg Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 10:40 PM
Actually it's very easy for online businesses to survive without social media. My most popular game has zero social media accounts. It's all about SEO.
Posted By: DCDAWGFAN Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 10:42 PM
We got a fairly large contract to support a construction project in a town not far from here recently.. saw the article talking about it on Twitter and followed up.

Also saw on Twitter that a guy we have done a lot of work for left his position with one university to accept a job with a new university.. now I know to call him..

And I can't even think of how much time my apps save me... quick check of a sports score, find a restaurant when traveling, check the weather in the city where I'm going to be tomorrow, listen to some music on the plane... sure, it's all information I could get through my browser if I went and looked for it, but they bring it to me, all organized and set up the way I like it... it is so convenient.
Posted By: Haus Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 10:43 PM
Originally Posted By: Swish
it's not really about addictions, so much as it's about the versatility that comes with it.

Business, like what you do, it's impossible to survive without a social media presence nowadays. Even congressmen and senators have a presence now.

and hell, some of it is just pure entertainment.

Social media is becoming more and more important from a marketing/internet marketing perspective but let's be real-- the vast majority of social media users are just getting cheap thrills and aren't accomplishing anything productive.
Posted By: Swish Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 10:44 PM
yea bro. the wife and i went to a comedy show the other day, and was sitting next to this guy who owns this restaurant in downtown cleveland. first thing he said was "get on yelp and check out our reviews."

we looked at the reviews, decided to try it out. and now it's our favorite spot to go on date nights.
Posted By: Swish Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 10:46 PM
Originally Posted By: hasugopher
Originally Posted By: Swish
it's not really about addictions, so much as it's about the versatility that comes with it.

Business, like what you do, it's impossible to survive without a social media presence nowadays. Even congressmen and senators have a presence now.

and hell, some of it is just pure entertainment.

Social media is becoming more and more important from a marketing/internet marketing perspective but let's be real-- the vast majority of social media users are just getting cheap thrills and aren't accomplishing anything productive.


and what's the problem with that? if you're on your daily grind, pulling that 9-5, what better way to kill time on the bus or train than watching some funny videos?
Posted By: Haus Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 10:53 PM
Originally Posted By: Swish
Originally Posted By: hasugopher
Originally Posted By: Swish
it's not really about addictions, so much as it's about the versatility that comes with it.

Business, like what you do, it's impossible to survive without a social media presence nowadays. Even congressmen and senators have a presence now.

and hell, some of it is just pure entertainment.

Social media is becoming more and more important from a marketing/internet marketing perspective but let's be real-- the vast majority of social media users are just getting cheap thrills and aren't accomplishing anything productive.


and what's the problem with that? if you're on your daily grind, pulling that 9-5, what better way to kill time on the bus or train than watching some funny videos?


If it were just that, I would say there's nothing wrong with it. But that gets into a discussion about how the average American adult watches 5 hours of TV per day, add in the social media, video games, general internet usage, etc etc etc. and clearly a lot of people have problems with it. I include myself in that btw-- I just think that I'm in the minority in acknowledging it and making it a point to keep my usage at a reasonable level.
Posted By: Swish Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 10:58 PM
yes, there has to be some level of consciousness involved. for example, when my wife and i go out, the phones are on silent, and we don't look at FB or anything.


but if it isn't social media, it's just gonna be something else. there's little difference between somebody on instagram all day and somebody playing call of duty all day.

my wife loves watching HGTV, i love watching rap battles on youtube.

if social media didn't exist, i'd just be playing video games. if video games didn't exist, i'd be doing something else.

people have found stuff to occupy their times with since recorded history, that isn't anything close to be productive.
Posted By: Versatile Dog Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 11:08 PM
Quote:
he vast majority of social media users are just getting cheap thrills and aren't accomplishing anything productive.


Kinda like us and this board...
Posted By: Haus Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 11:12 PM
Lol well I agree that there isn't much difference between someone being on instagram all day compared to playing CoD all day. I've done the latter before and it's not a good way to live. The whole point is whether it's binging on social media, video games, netflix, reddit or whatever, many people do it way too much for their own good.
Posted By: Haus Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 11:13 PM
Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
Quote:
he vast majority of social media users are just getting cheap thrills and aren't accomplishing anything productive.


Kinda like us and this board...

It's a good observation. Forums are really kind of a primitive form of social media. Any of the older guys on here who are hooked on this board almost certainly would have gotten hooked on Facebook/Instagram/whatever if they were available on phones and such when they were younger.
Posted By: EveDawg Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 11:17 PM
I'm old. I have never been interested in social media. I had a MySpace page, but it was lame.
Posted By: Swish Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 11:20 PM
MySpace......good god that was a fun website lol
Posted By: EveDawg Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 11:23 PM
No it wasnt. Sparkle graphics are stupid. All those people making websites with sparkle graphics codes. Lame.

At least Facebook is smarter and has everyone's account look the same.
Posted By: Swish Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 11:26 PM
i met my wife on myspace.
Posted By: EveDawg Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 11:28 PM
I'm glad it worked for you. A lot of people meet their future spouse online. I never had good luck with that. All I ever met are mental cases. Maybe I should rub your head and get some of your luck.
Posted By: Swish Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 11:34 PM
oh trust me, i know your struggle. i know a lot of women gets creepy ass messages from dudes all the time on FB and stuff. i know you probably go through the same nonsense.. there's some weirdo's for sure.

it's a hit or miss, with the majority being massive misses.
Posted By: EveDawg Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 11:39 PM
Yes, so true. And there are a lot of catfishes as well. People will say anything online.

Hence I don't try to meet people on social media any longer. I would rather try online dating sites, but it's not much better. There are a lot of scammers.

So then I try the old fashioned route and go to the bar. It usually works better. Hehe
Posted By: YTownBrownsFan Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 11:49 PM
Why did I think you were married?
Posted By: EveDawg Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/04/16 11:55 PM
Probably because I spend all my time online lol. And I'm old.

But no, I am an elegible bachelorette.
Posted By: YTownBrownsFan Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 12:11 AM
Nothing wrong with being old. Speaking for myself, I think that being old beats being dead ..... rofl
Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 12:17 AM
Hmmmm
Eve is single,
YTown is single,

They talk on this web site.
Hmmmm, I gots an idear coming on but it ain't here yet.
Posted By: Swish Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 01:28 AM
I was under the impression that YTown was married, as well.
Posted By: Tulsa Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 01:52 AM
Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Hmmmm
Eve is single,
YTown is single,

They talk on this web site.
Hmmmm, I gots an idear coming on but it ain't here yet.


I'm starting to picture you as that old guy on the dating website talking to his granddaughter about why his questions are better Fred's dating sites questions.

I'm not into the social media thing, this place is about a social as I get on line. I was on Facebook for a bit but quickly realized that I hadn't talked to these people in 30 years for a reason. I don't want my life online, I think I'll keep it in my home where it belongs.
Posted By: Versatile Dog Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 02:11 AM
j/c:

Funny how a thread evolves.

A teacher lost her job because some kid jacked her phone. It progresses to talk about smart phones to social media to dating sites to YTown and Eve possibly hooking up.

Interesting......
Posted By: Haus Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 02:18 AM
Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
j/c:

Funny how a thread evolves.

A teacher lost her job because some kid jacked her phone. It progresses to talk about smart phones to social media to dating sites to YTown and Eve possibly hooking up.

Interesting......

I figure that Pure Football threads usually converge to arguing about quarterbacks and Everything Else discussion usually converges to arguing about race, religion, or politics. Any deviation from all that mess is welcome to me.
Posted By: lampdogg Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 02:22 AM
Originally Posted By: EveDawg
Probably because I spend all my time online lol. And I'm old.

But no, I am an elegible bachelorette.


I didn't know you were a woman! All this time....
Posted By: EveDawg Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 02:23 AM
LOL Do you know many men named Eve?
Posted By: Versatile Dog Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 02:25 AM
rofl
Posted By: Tulsa Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 02:26 AM
I was just always grateful for my kiss on Sunday's in chat. wink
Posted By: Haus Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 02:30 AM
Originally Posted By: EveDawg
LOL Do you know many men named Eve?

My theory is that hardly anybody pays attention to usernames.

The best example I can think of is Damanshot. I read that is 'Daman shot'. Really, 'Da mans hot' probably makes more sense but whatever. EveDawg could really just be a thinly-veiled religious reference, 'hasu' has been switched to 'Haus' many times (not that I care), etc...
Posted By: EveDawg Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 02:34 AM
Eve is a religious reference.
And it's not even my real name.
My real name is Deborah.
Which is another religious reference.
I was named after Saint Deborah who was a prophet and judge of Israel.

I should have saved that for a "user names thread"
But why not now.
Posted By: Swish Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 02:36 AM
awww
Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 02:42 AM
Originally Posted By: lampdogg
Originally Posted By: EveDawg
Probably because I spend all my time online lol. And I'm old.

But no, I am an elegible bachelorette.


I didn't know you were a woman! All this time....


Son, your Momma should have taught you better 'bout them birds and bees!
Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 02:59 AM
Originally Posted By: Tulsa


I was on Facebook for a bit but quickly realized that I hadn't talked to these people in 30 years for a reason. I don't want my life online, I think I'll keep it in my home where it belongs.


I ain't never seen no Face Book but if they ever come out with a Butt Book, you give me a holler.
Posted By: Clemdawg Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 03:25 AM
Quote:
I ain't never seen no Face Book but if they ever come out with a Butt Book, you give me a holler.



sooooo much material to work with-


must... resist...
Posted By: ddubia Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 04:01 AM
Originally Posted By: hasugopher
'hasu' has been switched to 'Haus' many times (not that I care), etc...


Holy crap Batman, I always read it as 'Haus'!
Posted By: YTownBrownsFan Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 05:45 AM
Remember that, unfortunately, YTown is old, and broken down as well.
Posted By: lampdogg Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 06:07 AM
Originally Posted By: EveDawg
LOL Do you know many men named Eve?


"Eve" could mean more than one thing, aside from being a girls name. I just never gave it much thought I guess.
Posted By: EveDawg Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 06:10 AM
Fair enough. I probably don't want to know what those other eves are. I'm pretty biblical.
Posted By: Swish Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 06:12 AM
there was this horror game on the playstation a while back called Parasite Eve.
Posted By: lampdogg Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 06:15 AM
Eve as in "night" would be one
Posted By: EveDawg Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 06:15 AM
Yes there are some games named this way. Eve online is a popular game.
Posted By: lampdogg Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 06:16 AM
Either way, I don't really care sweetheart lol
Posted By: EveDawg Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 06:17 AM
At least you know now LOL
Posted By: Swish Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 06:22 AM
my gf in highschool was named Eve. well, evelyn.
Posted By: EveDawg Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 06:24 AM
If I had a kid, I wanted to name her Eve is it was a girl. But I am past kid having age so that idea is out.
Posted By: Swish Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 06:25 AM
you could always adopt.
Posted By: EveDawg Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 06:29 AM
Maybe could. I could be a single parent. I don't know if adoption agencies like that. Or I could visit a sperm bank for a donation. Beyond that I would have to find a husband. Which is a lot easier said than done. So many nutbags.....
Posted By: Swish Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 06:43 AM
good luck.
Posted By: EveDawg Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 06:44 AM
Honestly the best way for me to have a kid.... would be for me to date a guy who has kids. There are lots of those.

I am really not a baby maker at 44, even if it is technically possible.
Posted By: EveDawg Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 06:58 AM
Anyways...back to your regularly scheduled program of snark, jokes, and wit. Carry on.
Posted By: YTownBrownsFan Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 09:36 AM
Originally Posted By: Tulsa
Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Hmmmm
Eve is single,
YTown is single,

They talk on this web site.
Hmmmm, I gots an idear coming on but it ain't here yet.


I'm starting to picture you as that old guy on the dating website talking to his granddaughter about why his questions are better Fred's dating sites questions.

I'm not into the social media thing, this place is about a social as I get on line. I was on Facebook for a bit but quickly realized that I hadn't talked to these people in 30 years for a reason. I don't want my life online, I think I'll keep it in my home where it belongs.


I truly think that a lot of social media should be named "anti-social media", because it really does separate people from one another more than it allows people to connect.

I look at kids today who have zero social skills, because they have never needed to develop them. I have seen, on far too many occasions to count, 2 kids, sitting together at a restaurant, texting one another. No conversation, but just texting back and forth. Across a table. Unbelievable. It's kind of sad.

I think that so much of technology has developed to where it divides people, rather than truly bringing them together in a meaningful way. It eliminates the skills necessary to develop real relationships, and turns conversations into a series of quick little habitual exchanges. No wonder there are so many kids who have difficulty connecting to others in a meaningful way. Further, it really is no wonder so many kids have problems that arise from an emotional disconnect to others. Kids get hurt, and hide behind emojis. They have shallow conversations, and many cannot develop social skills and the ability to understand others. Can anyone be surprised when college campuses are rife with "trigger warnings", and when kids leap into the latest political or social movement without really examining it, because they can "belong"? It is any wonder that so many kids have failing relationships, when sex becomes a validation, rather than an loving expression between a man and his wife?

There are a lot of problems in this world today, and while I don't blame technology for all of them, the misuse of technology is behind a number of them.
Posted By: YTownBrownsFan Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 09:43 AM
Originally Posted By: EveDawg
LOL Do you know many men named Eve?


President Gerald Ford's real 1st name was Leslie.

Just saying ...... you just never know ... especially in this day and age.
Posted By: Tulsa Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 12:53 PM
Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
Originally Posted By: EveDawg
LOL Do you know many men named Eve?


President Gerald Ford's real 1st name was Leslie.

Just saying ...... you just never know ... especially in this day and age.


John Wayne's real name is Marion.

What the heck, if a guy can be named Caitlyn, why not Eve?
Posted By: Versatile Dog Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 01:38 PM
I wonder...

...what the fired teacher will do for a living?

...if the student who accessed her phone will ever be punished?

...what type of teacher the district will find to replace her mid-year?

...how the remaining student's education will be affected?

...if anyone else really gives a damn about any of it?
Posted By: GMdawg Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 02:00 PM
Originally Posted By: hasugopher
Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
Quote:
he vast majority of social media users are just getting cheap thrills and aren't accomplishing anything productive.


Kinda like us and this board...

It's a good observation. Forums are really kind of a primitive form of social media. Any of the older guys on here who are hooked on this board almost certainly would have gotten hooked on Facebook/Instagram/whatever if they were available on phones and such when they were younger.


I'm old and I am also hooked on facebook tongue
Posted By: GMdawg Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 02:03 PM
I guess these guys had never seen pictures of your beautiful little face Eve.
Posted By: Swish Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 02:49 PM
Originally Posted By: GMdawg
I guess these guys had never seen pictures of your beautiful little face Eve.


She's never on snapchat!!

lol, don't kill me Eve it was a joke.
Posted By: Haus Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 02:55 PM
Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I wonder...

...what the fired teacher will do for a living?

...if the student who accessed her phone will ever be punished?

...what type of teacher the district will find to replace her mid-year?

...how the remaining student's education will be affected?

...if anyone else really gives a damn about any of it?

There's a bit more information here. This was the best source I could find: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...na-teacher.html

cliffs:

- The student has been charged with a computer crime and aggravated voyeurism

- There is some dispute between the teacher and superintendent as to the accuracy of some aspects of the leaked story. He says students were regularly allowed to use her phone; she says she has only ever let her nephew use it, that kind of thing. And how much this would even change things is debatable.
Posted By: GMdawg Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 02:56 PM
She's cute, smart, funny, has a good heart, a good job, and she is a Browns Fan, yet she is still single. She is also right. Men are nutjobs
Posted By: ddubia Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 03:00 PM
Originally Posted By: hasugopher
Forums are really kind of a primitive form of social media. Any of the older guys on here who are hooked on this board almost certainly would have gotten hooked on Facebook/Instagram/whatever if they were available on phones and such when they were younger.


I'm an older guy and am hooked on this board because it's primarily about the Browns. During the season I rarely get past the Pure Football Forum.

I don't really care much about what goes on with the other social media stuff. In fact I might say I hold it with some disdain as in unworthy with little to no real value to me. Not judging others. There's just nothing there for me.

It's kind of like gossip. I'm not saying social media is gossip. What I'm saying is that I hate gossip and refuse to get in gossip-type conversations. I dislike gossip and find it unworthy of my time/interest. I heavily dislike social media and pretty much refuse to get into conversations though that method.

I log onto Facebook on occasion just to check-in on distant relatives. But a daily feed of videos, quotes, music and other things people find amusing, interesting, good/bad or whatever holds little value for me. Yeah, I like some of all of it. But I don't need to check on it everyday to see what people are posting. There has to be, HAS to be something else for me to do.
Posted By: GMdawg Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 03:07 PM
I use facebook to keep in closer contact with my kids, family, and friends. It's impossible to find time to talk on the phone to friends very often, or to keep up on their family's and whats going on in their life. I way to find out if they need a hug, a prayer, or just an ear to listen. To crack a joke to maybe brighten up somebody day, or just put a smile on their face if they need it. Facebook for me is just a way to spread some love among family and friends smile
Posted By: Clemdawg Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 04:31 PM
Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan


President Gerald Ford's real 1st name was Leslie.




Same is true for Bob Hope.
Posted By: SaintDawg Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 05:59 PM
If I were the husband.. and this twerp invaded OUR privacy.. lets just say the kid would need to be relocated in a privacy protection program.
Posted By: YTownBrownsFan Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 06:23 PM
A major problem today is that there is a fading respect for the privacy and belongings of others. People hack personal and corporate computers in order to steal financial information, and peoples' money. People send out bogus emails to try and steal peoples' personal information and money. People make bogus phone calls to try and steal peoples' personal information and money .....

It's repulsive.

This kind of invasion of privacy is a crime as well. Some question whether or not the woman should have had naked pictures on her phone, and maybe she shouldn't have .... but she is the one who was violated by a kid who decided to invade her privacy. The kid is a criminal in this case, and yet the teacher pays the price. I don't get that at all.

This is an example of how screwed up our society has become.
Posted By: SaintDawg Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 08:10 PM
I agree, Lets say you leave your credit card in your car and you forget to lock your car.. and joe thief get in your car, takes your credit card, runs to the mall and charges a 2000 TV.. is that any less stealing??
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/05/16 08:19 PM
I was entitled growing up.

I was entitled to follow the rules.

I was entitled to work if I wanted something.

I was entitled to respect my elders.

I was entitled to be punished if I was disobedient.

I was entitled to be kind to others, honest and trustworthy.
Posted By: Clemdawg Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/06/16 02:20 AM
spoiled brat!

wink
Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING Re: That sense of entitlement - 03/06/16 02:30 AM
So that's why you turned out like you did?
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