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Posted By: archbolddawg Your phone is listening to you - 09/09/20 02:21 AM
I have never, ever, not even once, searched on line for contractor/handman liability insurance. Ever.

I had a meeting at church tonight where a discussion was held about finding someone to work odd jobs for the church. Someone mentioned it would be nice if the individual had their own liability insurance. I replied "it'll be tough to find someone qualified, to work part time, even at $20 an hour, that would pay their own liability insurance."

Guess what ad I just had pop up on my face book page? "Liability Insurance for Contractors and Handymen".

Again, I have NEVER searched for ANY insurance on line, on my desk top, ever, let alone on my phone. (3g Iphone 4's aren't conducive to internet connections)

Yet that ad, that I've never in my life seen before, pops up on face book just 2 hour after a meeting at church where those words were used?
Posted By: EveDawg Re: Your phone is listening to you - 09/09/20 02:25 AM
I was sitting at the bar talking to my friend with my phone in my purse. It suddenly started talking alexa-style to google whatever we were talking about.

This happened twice.

It's creepy.
Posted By: YTownBrownsFan Re: Your phone is listening to you - 09/09/20 02:31 AM
Turn off ad personalization in Google.
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Your phone is listening to you - 09/09/20 03:35 AM
I thought this was just part of the agreement we had to get super computers in our pockets.
Posted By: THROW LONG Re: Your phone is listening to you - 09/09/20 04:30 AM
Are you sure?
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Your phone is listening to you - 09/09/20 05:32 AM
Originally Posted By: THROW LONG
Are you sure?


Good question.
Posted By: bbrowns32 Re: Your phone is listening to you - 09/09/20 05:29 PM
j/c

My ancient flip top just ignores me...perfect! rofl
Posted By: PrplPplEater Re: Your phone is listening to you - 09/09/20 06:52 PM
Yes, it IS listening. Constantly.
ALL. THE. TIME.

So are all in-home "assistant" devices, and anything else you have that is voice-controlled. Likely, even your newer TV's.
Posted By: oobernoober Re: Your phone is listening to you - 09/09/20 08:03 PM
This same thing happened to someone at work. I was telling him about smart vent registers, and mentioned 2 by name. He has never heard of this (much less punched it into his phone), but there were the ads a couple hours later.

It's fairly well-known that Facebook does this (actively listens via your phone), but I have no doubt others (Google) do as well.
Posted By: archbolddawg Re: Your phone is listening to you - 09/09/20 08:14 PM
That's the thing. I know face book does. If I post something about going golfing, next thing you know I'm getting all kinds of golf ads on face book. I get that.

But, this was me, with my 3g Iphone 4, that I haven't used to get on line in years! Literally, years.

I don't do face book on it.........actually, let me clarify what I DO do on my phone, it will be simpler: I make calls and receive calls, and I text.
Posted By: Milk Man Re: Your phone is listening to you - 09/09/20 08:38 PM
Your iPhone 4 has a microphone. It listens to you.

Go into 'settings' then 'privacy' and then 'microphone'.

This should show whether or not your microphone is turned on and any apps that are also listening to you.

Turn them off.
Posted By: PrplPplEater Re: Your phone is listening to you - 09/09/20 08:48 PM
All of the major internet platforms listen, and they all sell their data to large data wholesalers. There are MASSIVE databases out there where businesses have over 1,000 points of data on *EVERYONE*. With this data, they can tie you - specifically - to almost any online action you perform. They know more about you than most of your family, and as a result of this, they can sell exceptionally targeted ads. They know your politics, they know your car preferences, they know what clothes you like, and they know which porn sites you visit. They can sell your name, address, email address, Facebook account, etc.. .to anyone seeking lists, and it will all be based on the data they have gathered on you and what the buyer of the lists is looking to target.
Posted By: Milk Man Re: Your phone is listening to you - 09/09/20 08:53 PM
Here is a fascinating article on that subject just showing how much data your phone collects on you and sells.

Not even just listening to you but by tracking your every movement and then selling that information for advertising purposes etc..

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/12/10/business/location-data-privacy-apps.html
Posted By: oobernoober Re: Your phone is listening to you - 09/09/20 09:19 PM
Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
That's the thing. I know face book does. If I post something about going golfing, next thing you know I'm getting all kinds of golf ads on face book. I get that.

But, this was me, with my 3g Iphone 4, that I haven't used to get on line in years! Literally, years.

I don't do face book on it.........actually, let me clarify what I DO do on my phone, it will be simpler: I make calls and receive calls, and I text.


Yeah... I'm not talking about posting. I'm talking about talking out loud when your phone is within earshot. Facebook (specifically, the app) on your phone does it. Apparently Google also (somehow) does it on your phone. The smart speakers with the smart assistants also do it (listen to you and log).


I'll put it this way... whenever an app on my phone asks me for permission, I have a VERY long internal conversation on whether I want to grant it that permission.
Posted By: THROW LONG Re: Your phone is listening to you - 09/09/20 09:33 PM
Originally Posted By: PrplPplEater
All of the major internet platforms listen, and they all sell their data to large data wholesalers. There are MASSIVE databases out there where businesses have over 1,000 points of data on *EVERYONE*. With this data, they can tie you - specifically - to almost any online action you perform. They know more about you than most of your family, and as a result of this, they can sell exceptionally targeted ads. They know your politics, they know your car preferences, they know what clothes you like, and they know which porn sites you visit. They can sell your name, address, email address, Facebook account, etc.. .to anyone seeking lists, and it will all be based on the data they have gathered on you and what the buyer of the lists is looking to target.



Yeah! So!
Why the heck! Do we still have to fill out a Census form every 10 years!

In 1990 people told me, there was a super computer, in Europe, called the "beast" that was able, to hold 100,thousand, pages of information,
on everybody who had "ever" lived. So..

But yeah, we have to fill out a Census form? Give me a break!
Posted By: archbolddawg Re: Your phone is listening to you - 09/09/20 09:36 PM
Originally Posted By: Milk Man
Your iPhone 4 has a microphone. It listens to you.

Go into 'settings' then 'privacy' and then 'microphone'.

This should show whether or not your microphone is turned on and any apps that are also listening to you.

Turn them off.


Did that. It says: Applications that have requested access to the microphone will appear here.

And there's nothing.
Posted By: archbolddawg Re: Your phone is listening to you - 09/09/20 09:37 PM
I guess lucky for me. I don't go to porn sites.


(now watch, porn sites will start showing up)
Posted By: clwb419 Re: Your phone is listening to you - 09/09/20 11:49 PM
I complain about Apple all the time, they've never said a word smile Though I'm sure they love the significantly higher number of complaints I have about Microsoft products (well, mostly Word) though.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Your phone is listening to you - 09/10/20 02:16 AM
It’s about time somebody listened to me!!

Seriously, I get this quite a bit with ads. It’s always strange, even if it happens often
Posted By: THROW LONG Re: Your phone is listening to you - 09/10/20 02:27 AM
Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
It’s about time somebody listened to me!!

I feel reminded of the part of the movie "White men Can't Jump" where they are talking about hearing Jimmy Hendricks or just listening to him. brownie
Posted By: GratefulDawg Re: Your phone is listening to you - 09/10/20 02:39 AM
Posted By: OldColdDawg Re: Your phone is listening to you - 09/10/20 02:46 AM
jc

The most dangerous part of your phone is GPS. The listening won't hurt you, but GPS let's others know where you are in real time. If you need to be worried about something that would be what I would worry about.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Your phone is listening to you - 09/10/20 11:22 AM
tongue
Posted By: GMdawg Re: Your phone is listening to you - 09/10/20 01:34 PM
Cool now if I could find a way to get the smell of my farts, to get to them along with the sound, I will consider my life complete. wink
Posted By: FloridaFan Re: Your phone is listening to you - 09/10/20 02:22 PM
If you're phone is set to wake up via voice, then it is always listening, you can turn that off.

Of course you then cannot use wake up commands like "hey Siri" or "Hey Google" to activate your phone.
Posted By: PrplPplEater Re: Your phone is listening to you - 09/10/20 03:01 PM
Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
jc

The most dangerous part of your phone is GPS. The listening won't hurt you, but GPS let's others know where you are in real time. If you need to be worried about something that would be what I would worry about.


It's not just real-time. Your locations are among the data points logged and sold. Whomever makes your phone knows exactly the places you go and how often, and so does anyone that wants to buy that information.
Posted By: FloridaFan Re: Your phone is listening to you - 09/10/20 06:11 PM

Conspiracy theorists be like


"16 And the second beast required all people small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, 17 so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark—the name of the beast or the number of its name"
Posted By: PrplPplEater Re: Your phone is listening to you - 09/10/20 06:20 PM
except none of this is just theory. It is absolute known fact.

The only real unknowns are to what extent the devices continue to listen & monitor even after you turn off all settings and opt-out of all services.... which, I suspect, they still listen quite a bit AND still track your location data. They also use their own data - e.g. which cell towers you connect to - to track your location.
Posted By: Clemdawg Re: Your phone is listening to you - 09/10/20 07:02 PM
fantastic tune.

12-bar blues in 7/4 time.
Posted By: MemphisBrownie Re: Your phone is listening to you - 09/10/20 07:16 PM
Your phone is listening to you?

Yes. So is:

Siri
Alexa (on or off)
Your computer
Your computer's camera which you might not even use

etc., etc., etc.

The only entity that doesn't really listen to you are politicians.
Posted By: MemphisBrownie Re: Your phone is listening to you - 09/10/20 07:27 PM
Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
Your phone is listening to you?

Yes. So is:

Siri
Alexa (on or off)
Your computer
Your computer's camera which you might not even use

etc., etc., etc.

The only entity that doesn't really listen to you are politicians.


I'll add, perhaps for some, your spouse/significant other after awhile.
Posted By: Punchsmack Re: Your phone is listening to you - 09/10/20 09:42 PM
Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
I'll add, perhaps for some, your spouse/significant other after awhile.


Beat me to this comment.
Posted By: Clemdawg Re: Your phone is listening to you - 09/11/20 07:11 PM
Quote:
The only entity that doesn't really listen to you are politicians, your wife, and your kids.


Fixed it for you.

*edit*
Guess I should read a few more posts before firing off a quip.
Posted By: 3rd_and_20 Re: Your phone is listening to you - 09/17/20 10:45 PM
I-SNOOP Look out for this orange dot on your iPhone – someone is listening in:

https://www.the-sun.com/lifestyle/tech/1487788/iphone-listening-ios-14-update-microphone-active/
Posted By: Tyler_Derden Re: Your phone is listening to you - 09/28/20 11:31 PM
Just watch the social dilemma and you'll see what we're really up against..
Posted By: YTownBrownsFan Re: Your phone is listening to you - 09/29/20 03:26 AM
I had a nice talk with my phone tonight. It's actually quite the conversationalist.
Posted By: Tulsa Re: Your phone is listening to you - 09/29/20 10:08 AM
Before I start talking to my phone on a regular basis, I’m holding out for my phone to be able to host a seance. I want to ask my dad what he was thinking marrying a woman who was so short that I wasn’t able to make it to 6’ tall.
Posted By: GMdawg Re: Your phone is listening to you - 09/29/20 10:21 AM
I still look up to you buddy thumbsup
Posted By: Tulsa Re: Your phone is listening to you - 09/29/20 11:51 AM
I love ya bud! thumbsup
Posted By: FloridaFan Re: Your phone is listening to you - 09/29/20 11:57 AM
Originally Posted By: Tulsa
Before I start talking to my phone on a regular basis, I’m holding out for my phone to be able to host a seance. I want to ask my dad what he was thinking marrying a woman who was so short that I wasn’t able to make it to 6’ tall.


I'm sure there's an app for that

https://play.google.com/store/search?q=seance&hl=en
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Your phone is listening to you - 09/29/20 12:20 PM
Big Brother is watching and listening.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Your phone is listening to you - 09/29/20 04:13 PM
Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
Big Brother is watching and listening.


The difference is we grew up thinking big brother was the government. Turns out it's the corporations.
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