Baltimore at Pittsburgh is interesting and important for us ... Baltimore has been knocked down a peg and Pittsburgh may have gotten some confidence (albeit against Cincy)

It's early, but it's desperation time for the rats. They don't want to be 0-2 in the division, and only have wins vs the 2 worst teams in the league. I think the real Lamar is back, and I hope those teams beat the hell out of each other.

The Rats are going to blow out the Squeelers. Mark it down.

Rudolph will be a great XFL qb, not so much NFL.

I have a feeling Lamar is going to take a pounding from the likes of Heyward and Watt.
The Steeler D front 7 gets after QBs. The blueprint on beating Lamar is out. If the Steeler D can collapse the pocket without giving up running lanes, which they’re good at doing, it’s over. Take away broken play big passing yards and make Lamar (try to) beat you with multiple completions per drive... I know you love him Swish but the guy just isn’t NFL accurate enough to do it. Get a lead... make him throw.

On the other hand Rudolph is playing in a check down offense. Take Conner away on the ground and on short passes and Rudolph hasn’t shown he can beat anyone. It’s early in his career but right now he looks easily confused. As he should for only starting a couple of games.

I hope they both lose.
I certainly won’t be rooting for either of them to win.

Good take.

j/c:

--Seattle's uniforms are gross.

--Wilson is such a playmaker and so accurate.

--Gurley running effectively.

Seattle uniforms..... so ugly.

My tv looks like a highlighter lol

I don't think Seattles TD should have been a TD, because in my mind, 2 feet were down, but, to me

to me, two feet have to be down after the catch is secured, not just at the point one's hands first make contact with the ball that is later secured on falling to the turf,

I can't think the player had any control of the ball at a point where his feet were down in bounds.

Earlier I saw something I don't remember seeing anytime before,
A player went in motion backwards towards his own end zone, and wasn't set before the snap of the ball, (seattle on offense), I don't know how that could possibly been legal formation.

Seattles uniform color looks so bad, it almost appears like in the old days when tube televisions would have color or brightness issues with the picture.

If I were the Ref, I would have called Seattles TD incomplete, and if I were the reviewing ref, I would have too,
and I really don't care who wins this game.

Glad you are not a ref. You are the same dude who did not think the Rams interfered the Staint's receiver in the NFC Championship game last year.

I wonder if Bobby Wagner is the most underrated player in the league? He is a great player, but he does not receive the notoriety that many others do.

Russ lighting them up right now

Gurley fumbles

I can't put my finger on it, but besides the injury, something is up w/Gurley.

Man, R. Wilson is accurate.

hands to the face on whitworth called this game, much more egregious hands to the face by him against myles garrett not called

Wow, what a bogus roughing the passer call against the Rams during a potential game winning drive. NFL so hard to watch right now

j/c...

Rams miss their 843rd tackle of the evening.

844th, 845th, 846th, 847th...

Wow, what a crazy good INT by Thompson. Refs blew the call of course.

They really need to add unlimited challenges including penalties to the NFL

Incredible INT to end the game....essentially (maybe).

After further review, the defender had the best ^%&#$^#ing INT of the season.

I think they need a first down to fully ice it

yeah that was an amazing INT.

I dont' think I could do that with 100 tries, and he just did it in the moment. Such athleticism.

j/c...

Carson giving the Rams fits all night.

Hmm.

Oh my.

to quote my wife

"That was... hard to watch... oof."

I'm in LA, my neighbors are really sad right now. Feel like they should've won that one for sure.

Probably good for the Browns tho since we play the Seahawks next week?

I’m in LA and nobody cares about the Rams because the Dodgers won.

Seahawks with a big W .. now they get a mini bye before playing us

Damn, I fell asleep and missed the second half. I did win both my Daily Fantasy leagues, though.

Dodgers rule LA.

I was surprised to learn that after meeting my wife. She's from LA and when I would talk sports with her family it's clearly a Dodgers town first, Lakers second, and football is an after thought. A lot of them follow the Raiders.

I have an uncle (Browns fan) who lives in LA ... he honestly says there are more Browns fans than Rams/Charger fans

I lived in LA after being in Pittsburgh. I was there for the Rams/Steelers Super Bowl and there tons of people there rooting for the Steelers. LA folks love the Dodgers and the Lakers, everyone else, not so much

LA is a city that people have moved to from all over the world. Many American transplants bring their hometown allegiance with them. Portland is no different.

exactly, just like Phoneix and Florida too

That was the week after we beat NO in the superdome. Great memories.

Brady was so pissed that day.

Great uniforms, too. We should go back to those.

Man, I remember those 2 weeks. One of those "omg we've turned it around" time periods before one million terrible things happened once again to bring us back down to Earth. Freakin' Hillis and his fake strep :-/

Oh well, ancient history, we've got tons of talent now

J/c

That was a great few week stretch for us ... the trick plays/dominance in NO and then the surprising beat down of NE

OMG... Peyton Hillis... and that 'magical elf' or whatever elf play with the Oline standing around and that WR (Stuckey?) hiding behind one of them... good times.

maybe im the minority but...i was really upset that we drafted weeden and didn't stick with mccoy, atleast for one more season.

It should've been 3 great weeks. Stuckey fumbled the ball away in OT vs the Jets, who were coming off an AFC championship appearance. We were well within fg range.

I hated the Weeden pick. Maybe my least favorite pick since 99 honestly

I'm a McCoy fan myself.

Will be pulling for him to do well today.

If the Browns listened to me that year, Russel Wilson would be our QB. I was sick to my stomach when we drafted Weeden. Made me puke...

Trying to watch both games (Steelers Bengals)

Bengals 3-0

I'm probably just gonna watch the Steelers/Ravens game.

Ravens 3-0

I really want the Bengals to lose so we will be on in Columbus every week no questions asked

Ravens Interception

Pitts pulls a wildcat/interception. They need Big Ben back, glad he's gone for awhile.

Ravens 10-0

Cards 7-3

Bengals are a very bad tackling team

Pittsburgh is lost w/o Ben

Personally? I love watching Pitts lose. Go Ravens!

The Steelers are playing awful football. Short of Watt.
Lamar is a below average QB with incredible speed. Not impressed.

Kyler Murray is a one read then run QB. I think he’ll have a short career.

Steelers offense is awful

I wish they both could lose

Ravens 10-7

They are looking better now, TD.

Non game related.

I posted in last weeks gameday thread that OBJ and Tretter were fined. No one was sure if the Ravens’ DB Humphreys got fined for choking OBJ. I’ve since found out he did. $14,000+.

Rudolph actually made a couple of good downfield throws on that drive.

Shocking.

Man, dalvin cook for the Vikings is really good

Steelers just answered .. Ravens up 10 - 7 now

the Steelers and Bengals can be run on ... CHUBB

Patriots getting the customary preferential treatment on phantom spot.

Zane missed!

Was that our old kicker missing a FG for the Cards?

Colt McCoy is Patriots kryptonite.

I have Will Fuller on my bench.....ouch.

TD Ravens

Ravens 17-7

Lamar looks good here with a lot of time ... Steelers will have to out score them

Bills/Titans a battle to 3 points

Cody Kessler is a backup or third string QB for the Patriots now, I just looked it up, had no idea.

Yep Kessler still in the league

I had a feeling they would pick him up a while back.

How about the Raiders up 14-0 on the Bears?

Raiders have had a decent start this year ... better than I thought

Sitting at bar w Steelers fans AGAIN.

They seems cool though.

Steelers Pick

Hey Lamar:

Throwing into quadruple coverage rarely ends well for a QB.

Steelers going in now

It looks that way, unless the ball was fumbled. I can't tell.

Couldn’t tell either

Nice Return by the Bengals

Sack!

10-6 Cards

Ravens OL is struggling here

Bills going to be leading at half

Bills defense is legit elite level.

wow another missed chip shot FG.

Did the NFL change the kicking balls or something? Why do all the kickers suck now?

Yes, Buffalo is extremely good on D

Brady just with a terrible INT

Patriots look beatable.

We could be 14-2 at the end of the year.

13-6 Cards

Jackson cannot pass period!!!

Lamar with a TERRIBLE pick

Pitts on the warpath.

Baltimore is killing themselves

Lamar with the INT.

He's an OK QB if they run the crap out of the ball, he gets no pressure, and his receivers get wide open.

17-13 Baltimore at half

17-13 Ravens

He is a lot of fun to watch play.

Lamar looks like his old self again.

I'm not surprised, I wasn't sold on him lighting up weak defenses like the Dolphins, Cards and Chiefs.

3 BIG ifs

You just described 90% of the quarterbacks in the league, including mayfield.

Lamar's being exposed for what he is. Rudolph can't hit the broad side of a barn. I'm a happy Browns fan.

It would probably be better for us to have Baltimore lose, but I cant root for Pittsburgh

Ditto +1

NE looks a bit off on O the past few weeks

Ravens-Steelers playing some bad football.
But the game has been remarkably entertaining so far.

Yea, it's been fun to watch.

Ravens moving a bit now, start of 2nd half

I'm thinking that is an interception. We''ll see.

It’s a pick I would think. How does a TE have both hands on the ball, then bounce off his own helmet?

OH CRAP. No no no mason Rudolph is down

Real ugly hit

He was stretched out as far as he could be - it was just overthrown a bit.

Knocked out.

I hope he's ok. Definitely unconscious. Prayers for him.

That hit hurt watching it. Did they flag the helmet to helmet?

They didn’t throw a flag

If that had been us, they would’ve thrown two flags.

With the ejection

The cart needs a tow.

Who knocked out the cart?

Same player. Thomas

Scary scene ... wow

They should not have made him walk out. That makes me mad.

At least he’ll be fined by Goddell.

Baltimore has destroyed themselves with penalties

He better for that hit.

I hate having to root for one of these teams. I’m rooting for a tie.

Hodges looks like the star of a football comedy movie standing behind center.

Daniel Jones growth is gonna accelerate like crazy when Barkley comes back. So far, he’s silenced the critics.

It almost seems like the Refs are trying to penalize B-more for that hit. Phantom PI, and now an obvious drop called a completion.

Wow. Baltimore getting jobbed. Not that I mind. That team deserves every bad thing that happens to them.

That questionable catch wasn't a catch, IMO

Seems like more than PIttsburgh wants Pittsburgh to win

I despise rooting for the Steelers, but after that nasty hit, I want them to win.

TItans have a play that is SO CLOSE .. I cant even tell

How good is Christian McCaffrey.

Is Haden teaching tackling drills at Pittsburgh?

Nice pass/reception. Good game!

He’s a complete terror

Brian Daboll gets fatter every year.

Jets score 2nd offensive TD of season.

Reminds me of so many Browns seasons.

Anybody watching the London? How did the bears come back to lead?

#Raiders

As a side note, the State Farms Agent commercials are worse than LiMu and Doug.

Raiders gonna Raider

The Ravens secondary is so bad

Oh boy, Tony Jefferson with a terrible injury

Cards 23-9

Duuuukkkkkeeee!

Bengals are bad, Ravens aren't great and the Steelers are on QB #3 if we don't win this division its on us and nobody else ...

Was thinking the same thing.

Ravens defense making Hodges look like an MVP candidate

Fells with 2 TDs today.

Lamar has improved. Not saying is a great passer but he has made strides from where he was.

McCaffrey...my goodness.

Oh he still sucks as a passer, don’t get that twisted. But he has improved.

What bothers me is that he sucks as a passer, yet still has less picks than mayfield.

Overall, I’m just glad we got one of the 3 QBs who actually are worth a damn in last year’s draft class.

Cause Darnold and Rosen suck. Allen has improved, but I’m still glad we didn’t draft him.

23-16 Cards 4:08 remaining

4th string QB if you want to count Dobbs....

Hodges looking like Bubby Brister out there.

I think it's hard to say Darnold sucks since he hasn't been playing.

Man if we don’t take this division Imma be ticked. The bengals are trashed and everybody and they momma is injured on the Steelers and ravens team.

Our division is garbage as I watch these games (and that’s not saying we’ll win it haha)

Your best ability is....

Ravens up against it now

Steelers need to pic it.

Pitts has the momentum.

Steelers looking like they may win ...

Seems Ike Steelers day

Bengals tie it up 23-23

Credit to the Steelers ... they’ve gutted this one out

They've done a good job of getting linebackers on wide receivers...wr's win that battle.

Steelers lead 23-20 2:37 left

It’s on Lamar now

8

Your favorite team!

j/c...

Minshew trying to lead Jax back after being down 21-7, Carolina only up by 1, 28-27.

least favorite, but I give credit where it’s due

These roughing calls are getting out of hand.

So is gruden getting fired by the redskins or nah

That's no penalty.

And that was such a BS roughing call on Lamar. That was not a penalty. Refs bailed Baltimore out

It’s difficult to imagine Snyder putting up with this for very long.

Ravens driving .. 2 mins warning

Cardinals defeat Bengals 26-23

Zane with the win!

What happened to Jaxs D?

Did the bengals rehire Hue?

Bengals fall to 0-5

Raiders intercept for the win, probably.

OT

Steelers Ravens OT 23-23

Maybe a tie is in order

Steelers deferred haha

DA RAIDERS

Deferred ?????

Ravens and Steelers headed to overtime.

The modified overtime rules are terrible!

The rules make it far too likely a game will end in a tie.

The former rules of sudden death on any score were ideal!

If Baltimore scores a TD TOmlin will get killed

Jackson is clueless.

We showed the nfl how to deal with Balt

The Vikings QBs looks like Kevin Love.

Baltimore is a horrible pass O

Lamar running into sacks. God these 2nd year QBs are infuriating to watch sometimes.

Hodges can win it here

Steelers D is good. And with the preferential treatment they get, even better.

We only have to worry about half of a team in this division.

Ravens have a tough schedule upcoming too

Wow!

Fumble?

Smith fumbled

BIG break for the Ravens

Wow

Ravens ball

I rather Pitt than Balt win given the records

keep partying at IUP juju

Devlin Hodges looks like Aaron Paul.

Minshew coming back down to earth.

Damn...

Ravens win

Ravens win on the weirdest curving field goal.

Ravens defeat Steelers 26-23 in OT

Hate seeing ravens win

Wow, that was a weird kick ...... looked like it was hooking outside, and then swings back inside. lol

AFC NORTH STANDINGS

RAVENS 3-2
BROWNS 2-2
STEELERS 1-4
BENGALS 0-5

BROWNS VS NINERS MNF

Me Too But I Love Seeing the Steelers lose

On the bright side that pretty much buries the Steelers, can't be sad about that. It will be very hard for them to dig out of a 1-4 start.

On the downside, I hate the Ravens and wish they'd go 0-16 from now until the heat death of the universe.

End of the Carolina Jacksonville game is also a trouble to what would make good football.

hail mary, intercepted,

All a sudden the refs say , hands to the face auto first down.

Just another case of an auto first down penalty ruining what would make a good football game.

I turned off the final play in protest.

The Jaguars didn't score, but they never should have had another shot!


If there are automatic first down penalties, there should be automatic 4th down penalties, or, better yet, Automatic turnover on downs penaties!

j/c...

Alcohol fueled Bills mafia....

Wow I wish I did NOT see that. Hope he's OK

On to Packers vs Cowboys

WTF?!

1, what was he trying to do?
2, why did nobody try to stop him?

Darnold is still incomplete.

Long term I think he will be a good player.

1.) Land on the table, me thinks.
2.) Probably because most of them were just as drunk as he was.

Yes. Apparently in buffalo, the thing to do while tailgating is breaking tables. Lots of YouTube videos showing people jumping on and being thrown onto tables attempting to break them.

Cowboys O is a turnover machine thus far

tablebreaking instead of tailgating, maybe a new thing?

Bills fans have been doing this for years.

Ravens defense is so overrated from those first two games. Their offense ain't much better

I wasn't rooting for Pittsburgh, but was aware if they won our lead would be easier to hold. But seeing Pittsburgh at 1-4, makes me smile. I love listening to all the whining steeler fans I live around are doing. They are going to get a taste of what it is like to not have a QB.

I feel the same way Steub .. it woulda helped us, but still like seeing them go down

titan's kicker 0/4 on field goal attempts against bills

Brutal hit on Mason Rudolph. BS roughing the passer call on Ola. Unfortunately fumble by JuJu but a good play by the Ravens D. At least Devlin Hodges (Duck) looked OK. Season over.

Thanks for the info guys. I had no idea they did that.

Did Rudolph fall with his middle finger sticking out? Just saw the highlight.

Dang, Ekeler killing me at the goal line

Lol I didn't either.

Great fans, but they are a different breed.

How are the Broncos up 17-0 on the Chargers?

Its the NFL ????

Back to back interceptions in like 40 seconds in the Broncos game.

Phillip Rivers has been awful today.

The Pack is killing Dallas

Pack is back ... Cowboys are stunned

I know Packer fans travel well but it sounded like they outnumbered Cowboy fans after that last touchdown.

Thanks, I was wondering what had went down, as I just got home to see it...odd as Rivers is normally money, but he had that awful interception in the endzone...not the norm of Rivers.

Broncos have had a tough few games ... I think they hold on today

I would say everyone will win sooner or later but the Bengals may not ...

or Redksins or Dolphins lol

Yeah and especially against Denver. They showed a stat after that pick, he has something like 34 TDs and 2 INTs in the red zone against them in his career with that being his 2nd INT.

Denver closing in on th W

Lindsay is fast.

Royce Freeman gets way too many touches.

To the NFL:

While viewing the Packers-Cowboys game, it became clear to me that you have a huge referee problem. They are making your games UNWATCHABLE.

It took you this long to figure that out

Obvious PI on that pick. WOW

Refs are ruining the game.

GB with a big FG there ... up 17 with 8 left

That unsportsmanlike flag the side judge threw on Garrett for throwing the red replay flag too emphatically was a joke.

If a ref cannot control his emotions he should not be out there

J/c

Dallas has the momentum, but it looks to be too little too late.

Rodgers looks flustered most of today

Roughing the passer? lol

Roughing the passer?!

I loved that Kelce said he's from Cleveland Heights and not UC.

5 ex-browns starting in tonight's game. And that's not including Ogbah or Erving.

I like when the Chiefs wear their all reds

Wait till we play at Dallas next year..

There have been so many of these catch/no catch/fumbles today

on thanksgiving

If we do.. I'm very tempted to go.

They did the right thing letting it play out at least.

Yeah, I think it’d be a huge showing by CLE fans

Wonder what the squealers QB situation will be November 14?

What. A. Play.

Sounds like Rudolph is going to be fine, which is lucky for everyone involved

Unbelievable!

Mahommes is just incredible.

That was like Favre or Rodgers on steroids wow

Or when they play Miami.

They called Don Majkowski "Majik" ........ but Mahommes is the real magician.

Didn’t they pick up Paxton Lynch?

Chiefs leave you such a small margin ...you cant turn it over or leave points on the field

Still unsigned according to Rotoworld.

He's a Steeler link

Dude- your town is all kinds of messed up.
I get the whole 'proximity to PIT' thing, but damn... it's still an Ohio town. It's like the entire town is always suffering from an identity crisis. Waaaaay too many Stoolz flags/towels/jerseys. They seem to be big Panthers/Nittany Lions fans, too. Frankly, I don't know how you can take it.

It must be like living in Pennsylvania (or in some neighborhoods, West Va.)

You get the "DawgTalkers Trooper of the Year" award... every year!



It will be interesting to see if there will be a color shift if CLE and PIT continue their current paths. How many jersey swaps do you think you'll see?

Mahomes resets The Bar.
Next-level stuff.

Cam Erving + LT = Mahomes limping.

Cam Erving is doing something 31 NFL defenses can’t do...stop Mahomes.

So apparently, the NFL allowing teams to challenge PI calls this year was strictly eye candy and never something they ever had any intention of overturning any bogus PI calls.

IND... with the stop!!!

#turnoverondowns

Tough one...

My opinion of brissett has changed. He could be a good one. They turned it into an old school game and he had solid control of the game all night.

Ponies just wrote the blueprint for limiting Mahomes to 'mere mortal' status: relentless, 'in-your-face' pressure.

Every NFL team can be beaten.

Not tonight.

That throw was incredible on any night, under any conditions.

Tonight he got banged up, and hurt even more when our old friend Cam Erving stepped on his foot and ankle. Nice job Cam.

Indy has a very complete team ... not many weaknesses ... and i’m Impressed with how they’ve turned weaknesses (OL and D) into strengths so quickly

Jay Gruden fired. Unfortunately he's not the problem.

Yeah, owner cant fire himself lol

I have two large-screen TVs in my Man Cave [although I don't call it that] and Sunday Ticket. It's really cool for watching games on Saturday and Sundays. Some observations/thoughts:

--I didn't like seeing what happened to Rudolph. Dude was out before he hit the ground and his eyes rolled back in his head. Earl Thomas has been a great player, but he is losing points in my opinion.

--The officiating yesterday was ridiculous. So many bad calls and too many odd rulings after plays were reviewed. The refs almost made the KC/Indy game unwatchable.

--Buffalo is a solid team and their D looks legit.

--The Raiders over the Bears was surprising.

--Green Bay shredded the vaunted Cowboy defense.

--Washington's football team is almost as bad as the politicians who reside there.

--Philly is looking more and more like I thought they would before the season.

--KC's OL is really bad, especially since the injuries. Once Mahomes got hurt and he couldn't avoid the pass rush like normal, they were in trouble.

--Not sure why there were eleven 1:00 games and only two late afternoon games?

--Sadly, Rivers is really regressing.

--I think the Steelers kinda got hosed by the refs.

--Minni finally opened up their offense a bit and it allowed their play makers to make plays.

--Atlanta's D is a disgrace right now. But damn, Watson looked great!

--So, the Jets give Darnold all the first-team reps during the week and then make him inactive. I have no problem w/the latter occurrence, but why give him all the reps when you know that is status was uncertain?

I had the Redzone on most of the day, but only sat down to watch the Bears/Raiders and Colts/Chiefs games.

- Bears D didn't look so tough.
- Once again, and we know how it feels, the Bears need a QB
- The Colts running game was a site to see. The Chiefs couldn't do a damn thing about it.
- That pass interference call on the Colts was embarrassing. Plus, they reviewed it and confirmed the call. Unreal! Someone said it above, but it sure seems like the league allowed the review of PI calls, but told the refs to never switch it. What a waste.

On to tonight.

I think I heard there was an unexpected issue with his spleen. Post-mono complication?

I heard it was still a bit enlarged, but I didn't hear it was "unexpected." I had people at the house for a football party, so maybe I didn't hear it correctly.

Gase is not a good football coach. There was nothing unexpected about what happened. He was hoping Darnold would be able to go even though he hadn't cleared the final hurdle of testing his spleen. They even fitted him with a special pad during practice to protect it. You also had Darnold stating he doesn't want to die in a presser. Yet Gase rolled the dice and guessed wrong.

Jets may be worse than the Dolphins.

That roughing the passer call when Lamar was hit in the thighs/waist was criminal.


On another note - Cincinnati is the cure for a winless team.

I have been saying it since last year but Patrick Mahommes is only Patrick Mahommes because of the weapons. Tyreke Hill is a field tilting talent that opens up a huge gap in the middle of the field for Kelce and others to eat.

It has really shown out the past few weeks as Mahommes has finally looked human.

THe past few times I’ve seen Mahomes he’s fallen in love with the rolling right, throwing across his body type throws ... and they are crazy. But I think he can’t rely on it too much

First, I disagree that Mahomes isn't special. He is. You can't go 16-0 in the NFL. Colts had their number last night. It happens.

But I'll say this...Baker gets criticized for leaving a clean pocket while Mahomes and Wilson also do it more consistently. The difference is they are athletic enough to still make something happen where more often than not Baker isn't. They get hailed for the magnificent play instead of critiqued for bailing too early.

I don't really know where I'm going with this other than it's an interesting observation. Baker still needs to stay in the pocket...he doesn't have the athleticism of those other two.

That loss for Mahomes was a game that was hard to stop watching. But he is human. Plays hard, too. Not a frustrated diva.

The bengals did not disappoint. Not sure yet how many players they lost in addition to the game. Trade lines are open. So what do you think of P-borg now? Still come at you and deliver a load.

That call was an embarrassment.

It is getting to the point that quarterbacks are untouchable.

I mean there is nothing the tackler did wrong.

What else was he supposed to do.

Ugh. I would have thought this offensive PI call would have been reversed, nope, "confirmed". Total BS.

The Bengals only have two games on their schedule that are winnable. The Jets, though Darnold will be back, and the Dolphins.
The Bengals, the Dolphins, and the Skins are racing toward that #1 overall pick. The Skins new coach could ‘Rosen’ Haskins.? Will the Dolphins give up on Rosen already? I really think Dalton is done in Cinci. Tua in tiger stripes is a direct possibility.

I think the guy is on a different level and would elevate just about any team. He looked 'mortal' but he's still really good with a gammy ankle, no Hill and pass rushers in his face and OL worse than the Browns.

I hate to say it ..... but I think that Gase knew that he had no chance of winning with his backup QB. They have only scored 2 or 3 TDs all season long. I think that hope overrode any preparation for the backup.

Do I see that the Dolphins play the Redskins this week upcoming? Yikes

There are a lot of bad teams in the league this year.

I was thinking this yesterday as I watched bits and pieces of several games. The whole league seems mediocre at best this year. Even the 'good' teams seem to be struggling a little. And the middle to bad teams are just plain garbage to watch.

Yeah, the whole league seems to have taken a step back. Sure the super-teams still are winning, but even many of them have shown weaknesses and some stumbling so far this season.

I agree ... it’s like the have nots have decided quite early to take our own approach and tank/acquire picks

I don't know if I could disagree w/a take any more than this one. I mean......."WOW."

Lol that was such a weird press conference

I was looking at the schedule for the Patriots.

Damn talk about a clear path to playoffs.

They are undefeated but have played poor teams.

It would be hard to imagine them losing five games.

I kept thinking that had to be a spoof with a look-a-like.

It's ok, disagree if you want. Without Hill and Watkins in the lineup he has one touchdown completing 56% of his passes over the past two weeks.

I'm not saying he isn't great on his own right, I'm saying he isn't MVP Patrick Mahommes without those guys.

Not sure how saying he finally looked human is a "WOW" moment.

I think a lot has to do with the schedule this year.

A lot of bad teams had really tough games to start the year. Itll all even out in the end.

If that’s true then we better be weary .. our schedule sucks at the end (MIA, CINx2, PITx2, ARI, DEN)

j/c:

Just finished watching the Indy/KC game (had to work last night). Great job by Indy! I was surprised.

Indy controlled the clock, pressured enough, and was physical with their WRs (I think their WRs without Hill and Watkins are obviously way weaker)

The "Wow" comment is about how you saying his weapons made him look better than he is. I'm saying he makes his weapons look better than they are.

Right now, he has multiple offensive linemen out and that was the difference last night. Dude is a special talent and I haven't seen a guy w/NFL ties say otherwise.

Deshaun Watson now has 3 games with 5 TD's and zero picks.

some were also trying to label him a running QB.

I didn't think he was all that accurate coming out of college. I was wrong. He holds the ball too long, but he is pretty accurate and great kid. I'm happy for him. Wish we had him.

I think we really screwed the pooch by not drafting Wentz.