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Well, here goes nothing ...

Looks like we've got a new LT today.

Justin McCray. Not sure how I feel about this. Don't really like it.
https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/bro...ges-vs-patriots

ITS RAIIIININNNNG !

The Rains going to be a factor it looks like!

Originally Posted By: THROW LONG

ITS RAIIIININNNNG !

The Rains going to be a factor it looks like!

Chubb Weather

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Is everybody ready for an UPSET. I am, I'm hoping for one anyways. LOL

Originally Posted By: THROW LONG

ITS RAIIIININNNNG !

The Rains going to be a factor it looks like!

Well then, there's gonna be a showdown.

Originally Posted By: BarkinMad

Is everybody ready for an UPSET. I am, I'm hoping for one anyways. LOL

Going in with the attitude of it is was it is at this point

So NE can't play in inclement weather?

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

Originally Posted By: THROW LONG

ITS RAIIIININNNNG !

The Rains going to be a factor it looks like!

Chubb Weather

Wanna bet? I bet we go shotgun 80% or more and throw the ball 50 times.

White on white

I have a bad feeling this is going to be a bloodbath. Hope I'm wrong. They really surprised me with the Ravens game. But it sure does feel like this one will be ugly.

Let’s hope we surprise everyone

I can see us having less than 150 yards offense about 4-5 turnovers. I don’t trust this staff knows what to do

This weather may be just what the Dr. ordered

coaching matters , enough said

We will come out throwing every down

Please dont win the toss

Ugly, ugly weather. Bill looking for #300 so NE will be on a mission. Nearly perfect game needed in absolutely crap conditions...

slip sliding away

Man it is UGLY

Originally Posted By: 1oldMutt

Ugly, ugly weather. Bill looking for #300 so NE will be on a mission. Nearly perfect game needed in absolutely crap conditions...

This weather will make Brady even slower than he usually is ... Garrett !!!!

Okay, here we go

I have to work tonight so I'm gonna watch about 45 minutes live and then record the rest/watch tomorrow.

It looks awful out there.

Phil Simms made a good point. Baker has been throwing harder than he needs to causing his accuracy issues Mostly because I think he’s late on his reads and tries to make up for it with velocity. Hopefully he’s not throwing much at all

At least we’re getting to see this matchup monsooner rather than later.

Don’t deflate the footballs tho

Haha good one

Originally Posted By: BarkinMad

Is everybody ready for an UPSET. I am, I'm hoping for one anyways. LOL

Pretty sure after this games over, I'm going to be upset,

The fountain of futility that would be 2-5, again.

Look, Not to be negative negative, but

If they were doing it while holding on to their own players and scheme and sticking with a plan that showed promise, like the 2nd half of last year,
that would be one thing,

But things like, always cutting the tight ends, Not keeping Duke around until what's his name from the Chiefs gets to play,

Always having a, an inexperienced head coach or first year quarterback,
Refusing to fire the guy who goes 0-16 after 1-15,
But "That's!" the continuity we have to suffer through?

If the Browns were sticking with one single strategy that would be one thing,
And Depodesta has been called Chief Strategy officer for a lot of this, and I don't know how anybody can say the Browns have had just one strategy through his timeframe,
it's been a hodge podge, quilted together of several different ideas none of which the same.

So we've got big time experience at Coach and Qb, vs big time inexperience, and

I don't think the Browns are even playing their best ball of this season, and the answers they've appeared to dial up
look suspiciously like stabs in the dark,

So, 2-5, out of the playoffs before Halloween looms on the horizon, another 11.5 months to wait, to see a top football team,

And uhh, Just be a Fan tow the line don't bicker if they can't even get to 500 in the records again,
for 20 long years,

and if they don't like my point of view, Be a better football team.

Like before,
It would be one thing if they were losing while sticking with a plan someone could defend,

But, constant reboot,

Hey, the games starting.

Well, good return for them

I know the purists like the sloppy weather. I hate it. I think professional football should be like other sports and not play in inclement weather

If we don't hand the ball to Chubb at least 25 times today we will get killed. Next week when Hunt comes back we need to hand the ball off between them 30+ times. Running the ball is what we should try to get good at. Baker is leading the league in picks.

and it begins

And gashed off end

Learn to set the edge Garrett. Damb

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

I know the purists like the sloppy weather. I hate it. I think professional football should be like other sports and not play in inclement weather

So if it rains they should cancel the game? lol

2nd and 9

Vernon got 'em

Originally Posted By: Spiritbro77

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

I know the purists like the sloppy weather. I hate it. I think professional football should be like other sports and not play in inclement weather

So if it rains they should cancel the game? lol

Yes

Bring it again then Wilkes

Incomplete ... gotta get off the field

need a stop

Come on d

D DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Punt

Okay, incomplete ... PUNT

Not bad start defense

Good job D

need a 8 min drive now

Good job ... our ball on the 20

survived that

RUN THAT BALL!

Hey a little Led Zeppelin

Come on lets play a clean game

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

Originally Posted By: Spiritbro77

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

I know the purists like the sloppy weather. I hate it. I think professional football should be like other sports and not play in inclement weather

So if it rains they should cancel the game? lol

Yes

Football is a MANS sport, they don't cancel because of rain or snow or mud. If you want to watch pristine conditions watch baseball.

No penalties or turnovers ... keep it simple now boys

Maybe the plan is to run run run so they replaced Robinson with a mauler guard to run behind

Originally Posted By: 3rd_and_20

RUN THAT BALL!

Wouldn't that be nice?

It’d be very nice to have a simple, good gameplan

Originally Posted By: Spiritbro77

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

Originally Posted By: Spiritbro77

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

I know the purists like the sloppy weather. I hate it. I think professional football should be like other sports and not play in inclement weather

So if it rains they should cancel the game? lol

Yes

Football is a MANS sport, they don't cancel because of rain or snow or mud. If you want to watch pristine conditions watch baseball.

Dumbest statement I’ve ever seen. Playing in bad weather doesn’t make you a man 🙄. Playing in bad weather give you injuries

Garrett was held in the backfield going right to left in pursuit on the Pats first play from scrimmage.

25-30 Carries for Chubb at least ..

Just got home a bit ago...I'm guessing avery is inactive?

Limit the mistakes

Looks INC to me

Yep, of course

God I hate kitchens

that was not a catch figures

so much for Chubb

Throw throw throw throw

They’re all over the quick stuff

Fire kitchens

Throwing

LOL nice start offense

Too much bread on the butter there Baker.

Why are we throwing like this??

same old crap, bye week did alot of good

I HATE that rule Illegal downfield is stupid

Running the ball is so overrated.

I do too

waste of time

Punt

Really? Down pouring and you are pass happy?

2 passes,

3rd and 10 plus an ineligible downfield.

3 passes, 4th and 3.

coaching matters

I hate everything about kitchens as a HC

Gotta rely on the D

Odell should have waited for the blocks to develop

Their ball at the 27

Freddie dead man walking

3 plays 3 passes in a monsoon ???

I just dont get it

Surprising start for a monsoon game

Why isnt that us on first down/

Run defense still terrible.....

Vernon does something!

Good play vernon

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Why isnt that us on first down/

Because Fred thinks its 2018?

Come on d

We have one of the most inaccurate qbs in nfl this season and we come out throwing in torrential downpour

Our OC is an Air-raid guy. Of course, we are going to pass the ball. They run as an after-thought.

Burning us

God you suck greedy

That's why Mitchell should be starting

Nice job greedy way to look for the ball

Doesn’t even turn aroubd

That’s just beautiful

What a pass..........

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

We have one of the most inaccurate qbs in nfl this season and we come out throwing in torrential downpour

We'll show em. We will shock Billy B.

This is how you mix it up

Greedy didn’t even turn arond

Gotta get off the field

well, looks like Kitchens is gonna pass 900 times today in the rain, I'm now starting to question the football intellect of Freddie? I hate to do that but damn, it's raining, need to establish a run game.

4th and 7

Good

Come on D

Zero doubt here

Coaching matters

Timeout by us

Unfrickingbelievable

Coaching raises its ugly head again

Inexcusable to have to burn a timeout for personnel

Ugh

Gotta be better than this to win

That's some rain right there

Wasted a timeout to give them the first anyway.

picture perfect

Zero doubt

Unafraid.

Like clockwork ... and our players are arguing

That’s all on Mack wilson

Soft serve D

Not good

Gee, the Pats don't seem to have a problem with running the ball

So far this is not looking good.

Gotta love that 4-2-5 defense....

Should have fired kitchens during bye

Mack wilson is bad right now

God our linebackers are so clueless

7-0 upcoming

This will show just how far away we have to go yet. Might be good in the long run.

Wow, we really look like we had a good gameplan today...geez

Are you kidding me ward

Nice hands feet

Come on man

Catch it Ward

ward usually makes that play

That will do it

Maybe if Ward would have played some football in the last month he would have caught that...

That’s all they’ll need to win lol

Good Job D 3 is better than 7 ..

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

Should have fired kitchens during bye

And hired who? I don't see anyone worthy firing him from available right now. Wait until the end of the season if he's got to go.

Our O gotta get chubb going

Originally Posted By: Spiritbro77

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

Should have fired kitchens during bye

And hired who? I don't see anyone worthy firing him from available right now. Wait until the end of the season if he's got to go.

Addition by subtraction. Mike McCarthy available

Ward dropped a couple easy ones past year...but DBs do drop easy ones too.

Originally Posted By: Spiritbro77

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

Should have fired kitchens during bye

And hired who? I don't see anyone worthy firing him from available right now. Wait until the end of the season if he's got to go.

Yep, no viable replacements now...

Come on O

Originally Posted By: Spiritbro77

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

Should have fired kitchens during bye

And hired who? I don't see anyone worthy firing him from available right now. Wait until the end of the season if he's got to go.

This whole year will be chalked up to "LEARNING ". Now, will any of them have learned anything will need to be seen.

well, we did hold them to 3 but the tackling is horrible for this defense, that is on coaching.

Please just take the touchback

Why Return the Kick

Originally Posted By: BarkinMad

well, we did hold them to 3 but the tackling is horrible for this defense, that is on coaching.

It has been for years...

abandon the run

Pass

Pass pass pass

Are you kidding ne

4 passes....

Game over

Terrible

Cue meltdown

And this team blows

Magic 8 ball told Fred he COULD pass today.

Unreal

Y'all want more Chubb?

This is embarrassing ... again

Horrible...chubb with 2 fumbles in 2 weeks

There's our run.

Getting VERY ugly and so soon.

LOL, another mistake....this team is a train wreck...

Pass happy kitchens

This is what happens when you try to run the ball from the stinking shotgun.

can't make this crap up

Is hunt playing

Oh, we hit our own player ... so bad

Stripped by his own OL

You guys need to invest in some offensive line help. Badly.

Blow it up now !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chubb costing us two straight weeks

Only in Cleveland can our oline make our RB fumble

Shouldn't be in a shotgun in the first place.......we are clueless

this game is now over, Browns will not get back into it, we are not ready for prime time and nowhere near where we want to be. This team is still bad, same ol' Browns losing football.

Bitonio got destroyed

We had TWO WEEKS to prepare for this, and our offense continues to look lost.

Someone explain to me why this isn’t on Freddie?

Why? I'm 63 FIX THE PROBLEM DORSEY!!!!

Not a sin to lose to the Champs. NE is a machine this year and the Browns... aren't. I see them dropping a 40 burger on us.

Shotgun in the pouring rain. Genius game plan.

Originally Posted By: slick

Shouldn't be in a shotgun in the first place.......we are clueless

I hate to admit it, but I think you’re right.

Not ready for prime time is right ... this team folds like a bunch of losers when the lights come on

Only the Browns would have a lineman kick the ball out of his RBs hands.

Come on guys, you got to laugh at that.

I hear about all this talent dorsey has brought in. Yet when I watch on Sunday it looks the same as every other team since 99

time to implode

Freddie and his Monkenesk offense leave alot to be desired...

IF THIS TEAM HAS ANY HEART NOW IS THE TIME TO SHOW IT!!!

Originally Posted By: BarkinMad

this game is now over, Browns will not get back into it, we are not ready for prime time and nowhere near where we want to be. This team is still bad, same ol' Browns losing football.

You give up to easy there is a whole game left sheeesh

Horribly designed team...considering the talent we have...that's ball game. This team self destructs.

Originally Posted By: BADdog

Is hunt playing

He cannot play until our 9th game. (8 game suspension)

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Only the Browns would have a lineman kick the ball out of his RBs hands.

Come on guys, you got to laugh at that.

Okay, it's a tad funny but sad at the same time.

Originally Posted By: Jcamm

Blow it up now !!!!!!!!!!!!!

You mean like Kraft?

No Hunts still suspended.he can't play until week 10 against the bills

You can’t evaluate anyone on offense with this idiotic gameplan.

Bye week paid off

Originally Posted By: slick

Shouldn't be in a shotgun in the first place.......we are clueless

It's the stinking Air-raid college crap. The biggest mistake Kitchens made was hiring this OC.

2 weeks to prepare and you come out like this? I'm ready to fire the whole staff.

keep the KO in the End Zone

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

Originally Posted By: BarkinMad

this game is now over, Browns will not get back into it, we are not ready for prime time and nowhere near where we want to be. This team is still bad, same ol' Browns losing football.

You give up to easy there is a whole game left sheeesh

Not saying its over, but have we come back from a deficit to win a game this year?

Waterboy lookin' good.

here come the Baker pick

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Only the Browns would have a lineman kick the ball out of his RBs hands.

Come on guys, you got to laugh at that.

Ha-freaking-ha.

We need 7 on this drive

Don't look now, something just happened, went to the restroom and the other team scored.
bleh.

Go back to the running game, at least attempt to run the ball and give a chance for your OL to get into a groove.

This is not good

Lol

GD!

Are you freaking kidding me

Maybe we should hire Belichick in the offseason. Steve I mean.

Un freaking real. Bench that dude

I give up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's over.

This is a disaster

Thiis is just embarrassing

Game

Even when we have a good play we bumbled it up

Cursed

How do you not have two hands

I knew it was coming before it happened to....

Chubby giveth and taketh

Parade of disaster.

I'm done

Can’t wait for hunt to come back. Atleast he’s played in this weather

Kitchens clueless

Can this stupid team do anything right.

Whats next

Oh good we get a warning

Lack of attention to detail. This starts at the top.

Myles always shows up

Oh, son of a goodell,

At least the, the game film will be interesting.

What just happened!!!

98 yard drive coming here lol

So, we technically could be winning now

Worst team in the NFL.

At some point this team has to just decide IT IS NOT GOING TO LOSE!!!

I wonder what Mr Postive Eotab is thinking now

How about a blitz for 2?

Good God I want to throw up right now.

Originally Posted By: EveDawg

Can this stupid team do anything right.

Just once in a while, Eve, just once in a while.

Miami has our game circled for their win

figures

Do we always play this soft?

Bad coverage

And its just so easy

Can you play any farther off Chris rock

And here we go with the 96 yard td drive....comon guys

Why is greedy back pedaling 20 yards

I think they are going to keep going back to that play until the Browns stop it.

What a cushion

What the hell is with this soft defense...Wilks SUCKS

Man oh man

TD here and this is over....

Who has dorsey actually drafted that’s actually done anything

Their just attacking greedy

this is nuts

Here we go Brow...um..... OK nevermind. Groundhog day again... Anyone surprised?

Brady's going to pick on the rook Williams; might want to roll the safety over to his side of the field.

They seem to be picking on Greedy, whoda thunk it!

every phase of this team angers me

Where are the CBS??

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

So, we technically could be winning now

Every game.

Snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Playing 8 yards off and not blitzing against brady

You gotta blitz like that

Good

Can we ever do something GOOD on offense now

what offensive blunder will take place now

Do we have anyone other than Chubb to run?

Jesus penalty

F this team

We are a freaking joke

Please fire this whole staff

Thanks refs

Here comes the circus again.

Time for a block...

Haha once went our way

It has to be coaching i didn't want to believe it but ...

Well it’s 5:00 at the game, time to start drinking.

Time for another fumble most likely

The Browns need points on this drive. Period.

Can I please see one good drive by our offense before I go to work in a little bit?

Browns offense is 0 for 2 with negative 7 points,

looks like they drew the Browns offsides, refs say false start offense,

Browns catch a break.

Browns offense, chance to redeem themselves!

HWGB HWG

Originally Posted By: Jcamm

what offensive blunder will take place now

Been a long time since a butt-fumble...

Now it's time for an interception.

Time for Browns to roll off 34 unanswered points....

Originally Posted By: THROW LONG

Browns offense is 0 for 2 with negative 7 points,

looks like they drew the Browns offsides, refs say false start offense,

Browns catch a break.

Browns offense, chance to redeem themselves!

HWGB HWG

Are you two different people?

Chubb will either be paranoid or running angry now.

Originally Posted By: 3rd_and_20

Can I please see one good drive by our offense before I go to work in a little bit?

It would only make you not want to go to work.

I can't remember Chubb fumbling before today???

Originally Posted By: 1oldMutt

Chubb will either be paranoid or running angry now.

I think he wasted angry on the last run.

Seattle he had the HUGE fumble

Chubb = william green

Originally Posted By: Tulsa

Originally Posted By: 3rd_and_20

Can I please see one good drive by our offense before I go to work in a little bit?

It would only make you not want to go to work.

Yea, but I need to bring home the bacon (as they say), so I'll go.

Browns gonna brown even when the game isn’t taking place

You have to kidding

Just curious, because I aint 100% sure,

does that fumble 40 yards downfield = a carry for 0 yards, or does Chubb get credit for any yards on the carry?

Oh, I think the Pats will be in the SB again, and probably win it, again. However, we should be more prepared than we look, I still see missed tackling on the defense and too much passing the ball on offense. I know Chubb fumbled twice but it is wet, that's gonna happen, Chubb is not known as a fumbler.

Adaruis thomas with a killer

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Seattle he had the HUGE fumble

Cant throw him to wolves now. I think he's been tops on the team this year.

WTF was that?

WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON

Fire Freddie.

Yeah..your coach is toast. It's official.

Maybe they should've stuck with Williams?

Please cut mayfield and get a real qb. You can’t even make this crap up

Now that's funny.

What !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This team expects to be snake bit. No wonder most Browns fans aloof to this pile of misery anymore.

WTF IS THIS TEAM

Lololol. This is pathetic.....kitchens give up the playcalling!

WTF...how stupid can they be?

This is beginning to be the worst. week. ever.

So awful

Freddie is easily the worst coach we’ve ever had

We are embarrassing, and that’s NO hyperbole

Originally Posted By: 3rd_and_20

Originally Posted By: Tulsa

Originally Posted By: 3rd_and_20

Can I please see one good drive by our offense before I go to work in a little bit?

It would only make you not want to go to work.

Yea, but I need to bring home the bacon (as they say), so I'll go.

I’d go early if I was you.

Fire dorsey too since this is his fault

Oh my car wha huh

kidding? huh, Fumble! What, miscured backfield right pitch to the defender,

Take a deep breath!

I don't eleive what I'm seeing.

Oh what a mess.

Well, Dorsey...you made the hire....thanks bro...you have lost ALL cred in my book

This team literally cant be any more embarrassing for such a great fan base

BOOM!

You just dont run that crap on a day like this!!! Fred is a mess!

at least make it look like your trying not to tank

This isn't fair even we we finally get players we still suffer

17-0 .. FIRE ALL

Originally Posted By: Tulsa

Originally Posted By: 3rd_and_20

Originally Posted By: Tulsa

Originally Posted By: 3rd_and_20

Can I please see one good drive by our offense before I go to work in a little bit?

It would only make you not want to go to work.

Yea, but I need to bring home the bacon (as they say), so I'll go.

I’d go early if I was you.

After that last play? Good idea.

Shobert with another missed tackle...

FIRE FREDDIE KITCHENS

There’s Schoberts non tackling ass

And it’s still the 1st quarter.

Sit Brady the rest of the game, you won’t need him, you’re playing the Browns.

56 to 0

Done for the day. I have things I do not want to do that will be better than this.

If dorsey thinks freddie is the guy than Hassan has to do right and get rid of both

So, somehow this is worse than the SF debacle

Schobert sucks....when will we they see it?

Originally Posted By: Schadenfreude

Yeah..your coach is toast. It's official.

Maybe they should've stuck with Williams?

I'm assuming your a Patriots fan who came here just to talk trash?

The not ready for prime time players...

unbelieveland.

They had two weeks to prep for this?

This team is pretty horrible. Blowout commencing...

Browns Browning hard.

Originally Posted By: Woofurious

Done for the day. I have things I do not want to do that will be better than this.

That would include just about ANYTHING.

What’s Chris Palmer up to these days? I’m sure he’d step in as interim coach.

Good news is, there's a lot of football

TIME ON THE CLOCK!

"sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug" Dusty Rhodes.

Honest to goodness, any of us could be a better coach right now

That last play by baker was worse than anything Sanchez or weeden has done

Baker is [censored] stupid, somebody deserves to be fired after this showin and that somebody should be Kitchens and the OC.

Jimmy gotta step in and fire him ,

HORRIBLE.

Originally Posted By: 1oldMutt

You just dont run that crap on a day like this!!! Fred is a mess!

This. 100%.

I really think we've done ok minus the tragic turnovers. Be interesting to see how the team responds. The way we play from here on out in this game also says a lot about Freddie.

Waited a bye week for this...I dont wnt anyone to mention this team winning out...it will not happen.

Horrible coaching staff, people need to go and I mean now!

Originally Posted By: Woofurious

They had two weeks to prep for this?

And THAT is why I can start to change my mind about Kitchens.

Cue Odell blowup now

Damn they are just taking away handoffs now. Line sure has improved. I've never seen that before and I've watched a lot of football in my life.

Flea flicker now

So we have 3 TOs and multiple penalties in ONE quarter ... nice improvements

Everybody in the bar is mocking us.

I want to tell all of them to suck a dick.
And FU bitch, your husband cheats on you CONSTANTLY.

Three running plays and a punt...book it

We also had TWO WEEKS to prepare for this, and the offense looks like a division 4 high school team.

Originally Posted By: BarkinMad

Baker is [censored] stupid, somebody deserves to be fired after this showin and that somebody should be Kitchens and the OC.

Oc is not the one calling the plays

New Quarterback, Myles Garrett, New Runningback, Denzel Ward,

just kidding.

seriously,

it's going to get better.

This team wears me out

If baker can’t play under center. Get rid of him and draft one that can

Looked good under Williams.
So let's hire tubby to HC.
Great plan.

Freddie was the wrong hire. Glad Dorsey flexed his muscles.

3 turnovers on 3 consecutive snaps. Wow. I think you have to literally give the ball to the other team to accomplish that.

Oh wait. We did.

I hate my team.

Nice run

You guys have a good rest of your day....this is incredible, can't believe this crap...

Originally Posted By: EveDawg

Everybody in the bar is mocking us.

I want to tell all of them to suck a dick.
And FU bitch, your husband cheats on you CONSTANTLY.

EVE!!!!ay it out there girl!

Wow, they ran a play without turning it over!

Like it or not, Chubb’s killed us the last two games

We sure did spend the extra time on the bye on the little things

too little too late

Its only 17-0, we got this!

Originally Posted By: EveDawg

Everybody in the bar is mocking us.

I want to tell all of them to suck a dick.
And FU bitch, your husband cheats on you CONSTANTLY.

Dot her eye!

Chubb is so good just give him the ball

Time to get pass happy

figures

Flag on us

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

Chubb is so good just give him the ball

He’s fumbled twice.

Pharoh brown is penalized every game!!

Pharoah brown flag

Joke

On a positive note all the turnovers were somewhat fluky.

Nice LT lol

McCray isn’t better

Double-reverse... they'll never see it coming.

Originally Posted By: Tulsa

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

Chubb is so good just give him the ball

He’s fumbled twice.

At least he plays football...

We are still 20 years away from being competitive

End of the first quarter, 17 to 0, things looking dismal.

Originally Posted By: Tulsa

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

Chubb is so good just give him the ball

He’s fumbled twice.

Fluky. What are you going to stop giving him the ball?

Double penalty...they'll see it coming lol

Originally Posted By: EveDawg

Everybody in the bar is mocking us.

I want to tell all of them to suck a dick.
And FU bitch, your husband cheats on you CONSTANTLY.

Announcers are mocking us also. Lets face it, the Browns deserve it.

So next training camp and pre-season, do you think they’ll actually expect the players to work?

There’s no way you can be Dorsey and think this is acceptable

If it's not a false start, it's illegal man downfield, if it's not that its a horse collar tackle,

Maybe have to get in pass formation,

Get the Patriots to put the small guys back in, take out the nose tackle Shelton,

and play hurry up runs up the middle to deter them from getting players who can actually stop the run, into the game.

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

That last play by baker was worse than anything Sanchez or weeden has done

I think that is 100% on Bitonio. There is no time for a QB to diagnose what is going on in front of him, while he is handling the snap and faking a handoff to Chubb.
Bitonio has to stop that DT from getting free access to that space.

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

We are still 20 years away from being competitive

No, just a head coach away.

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

There’s no way you can be Dorsey and think this is acceptable

I doubt he does and fully believes he'd correct any mistakes with ownerships blessing.

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

There’s no way you can be Dorsey and think this is acceptable

Only New England, Baltimore and Pittsburgh find this acceptable.

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

On a positive note all the turnovers were somewhat fluky.

These types of mistakes would not happen to any other team

Originally Posted By: FATE

Double-reverse... they'll never see it coming.

Hahaha A poster named FATE saying this. Talk about tempting fate, that's just about a guaranteed fumble.

Good middle screen gets 13 on 2nd and 15.

Freddy was a mistake. The longer they take to admit it, the longer we will look like fools.

I thought DiamDawg swore things are different now ?

That flip pass was every bit as bad as anything Weeden did

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

OF COURSE A HOLD

Bitonio is trash

This is the most undisciplined team ever

Originally Posted By: THROW LONG

Good middle screen gets 13 on 2nd and 15.

all for not

Another flag

Just checking in to say this is the dumbest crap ever.

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

This is the most undisciplined team ever

G. William's wouldn't accept it.

Here comes the interception

Here's where the flags will pile up. This team sucks.

What are you kidding a holding call, 2nd and 25t

WOW! SOUNDS A LOT LIKE THE 3RD TO LAST DRIVE THE BROWNS HAD VS THE SEAHAWKS AND ALL THE PENATIES TO STOP THAT DRIVE TOO,

THE REFS, NO LEVEL PLAYING FIELD! SERIOUSLY!

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

This is the most undisciplined team ever

Players coach...

I wonder how many yards Pharoh rown has cost the team in terms of penalties this season. I am guessing more than he has gained receiving.

Originally Posted By: Tulsa

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

This is the most undisciplined team ever

Players coach...

Exactly...be a [censored] and let them deal with it.

Yep

only 3rd and 19 now managable

Is coughlin available

nice

A WHOPPING 3 yards on 3rd and 19!

Callaway going backwards

Originally Posted By: s003apr

I wonder how many yards Pharoh rown has cost the team in terms of penalties this season. I am guessing more than he has gained receiving.

Easily

We seems to have the only receivers in nfl that can’t break tackles

I hate this team.

24 notting coming right up

We seem to have the most underachieving team in the NFL

At least we have the Hammer.

...and many thought I was overreacting for wanting Kitchens to be fired.

You play how you prepare. We aren’t prepared, and it’s incredibly obvious due to all this nonsense.

And we run quick crossing routes on a 3rd and extremely long?!

What are we doing here?

Originally Posted By: FATE

At least we have the Hammer.

But we’re still getting nailed.

Did anyone expect the Browns to win?

The season starts next week.

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

We seem to have the most underachieving team in the NFL

Or they ain't what they thought they were...

Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist

...and many thought I was overreacting for wanting Kitchens to be fired.

You play how you prepare. We aren’t prepared, and it’s incredibly obvious due to all this nonsense.

And we run quick crossing routes on a 3rd and extremely long?!

What are we doing here?

There's nothing else they could do. Patriots were playing 20 yds off.

If I were Belichick I'd sit the starters and just let us beat ourselves.

Originally Posted By: 1oldMutt

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

We seem to have the most underachieving team in the NFL

Or they ain't what they thought they were...

At least we had an enjoyable off-season before their real potential was realized.

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Did anyone expect the Browns to win?

The season starts next week.

No but was hoping for improvement

You just hoped to have a more prepared/professional showing

Long snapper is pissed lol

Originally Posted By: CalDawg

If I were Belichick I'd sit the starters and just let us beat ourselves.

We always do.

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Did anyone expect the Browns to win?

The season starts next week.

I expect improvement and a competent coach. It’s obvious we have neither of those.

The season starts against scrubs? Get that weak apologist stuff outta here.

So the back started moving before snap and no call

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

You just hoped to have a more prepared/professional showing

Exactly. Getting beat by the Pat's isn't so bad but this...

Did anyone else see Kitchens try to tell Baker something and Baker turning his back on him and talking to another player? He basically ignored Kitchens.

Force a fumble!

Take the ball down and score!

Right back in this football game!

Probably the case

Great rush by wilson and Murray

The defense is not the problem.

Have these guys never played in bad weather?

I don't think I can take much more

Is landry hurt?

You know really

If you take the time the Browns offense was not on the field,

The Browns Defense has been playing pretty good, only really gave up the one Field goal,

Their Td was kind of off of a turnover, and the other was during a turnover.

NOW TAKE IT DOWN THEIR AND SCORE!

Its like watching the XFL

Jesus...I was hoping we would have another returner and not risk Landry...now I sss why.

Originally Posted By: cfrs15

The defense is not the problem.

Nor is it the solution.

Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Did anyone expect the Browns to win?

The season starts next week.

I expect improvement and a competent coach. It’s obvious we have neither of those.

The season starts against scrubs? Get that weak apologist stuff outta here.

Weak apologist stuff? It's called perspective, which your overly emotional self doesn't have at the moment.

Yeah, our PR have sucked

Landry sighting

Cue a huge flag or TO now

Did we prep for rain today

Hey we actually have a drive going.

Chubb is still grinding it against this D.

I possess higher standards than you. Accept it.

They have no answer for Chubb. If he can just hold on to it

We are driving but in my mind waiting for a mistake to haopen

This was a good game plan if were within one score

Run into a blitz.. brilliant

Reached the 22, Get zealous for that end zone.

Originally Posted By: cfrs15

The defense is not the problem.

We are 30th against the run....if it's not the problem it certainly isnt the solution either.....since 99 we have not been able to stop the run with the exception of one or two seasons

Yes!

TOUCHDOWN BROWNS!!!

Good play, but too late of course

They crossed that last white line, what does that mean?

Yea now we score

Well now, that was easy.

Woah, competence.

There we go TD. No flags?

Great pass by Baker...good composure

ITS NEVER TOO [censored] LATE.

WE ARE MOVING THE BALL. WE DONT TURN IT OVER, AND WE HAVE THE [censored] LEAD.

17-7

Now the D will give up a score

Down 10 could be manageable

Originally Posted By: Tulsa

They crossed that last white line, what does that mean?

We all get new AARP cards.

Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist

I possess higher standards than you. Accept it.

No, you act like a baby.

You should probably own that. I've read you in the political forums. My six year old daughters have more maturity than you.

McCray actually looked dominant that drive

Browns TD to tight end Harris.

This offense likes tight ends, now go get real ones!

we need a stop at least get a FG then we get ball to start second half

Should be a penalty for losing teams to celebrate in endzone.

Originally Posted By: THROW LONG

Browns TD to tight end Harris.

This offense likes tight ends, now go get real ones!

I’d love a trade for Howard

Any real leaders on this team? Time to kick some arse and fire some guys up.

How can a team look like Sybil on two differnt drives

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist

I possess higher standards than you. Accept it.

No, you act like a baby.

You should probably own that. I've read you in the political forums. My six year old daughters have more maturity than you.

Wonderful! Name calling.

See what happens when you hang on to the ball.

Where TF has this team been?

next drive

I'd put 8 guys in coverge, 8 guys in coverage don't even rush the qb

lay off the rush just hold the running lanes.

we do have a kicker though

I was a huge OJ Howard pimp...idk but he is the worst ranked blocker in the league, has had the drops this year...and TB will want probably a lot...

Gotta get a TO

Blitz didn’t get there

Now the D will collapse

Schobert playing man on James White is not ideal.

Not good is right

How is that not grounding?

Bradys going deep to the sideline in the next 3 plays,

why you playing 9 front,

have you ever watched a patriots game before, they're on tv every week?

drop guys in coverage, help

and knock it down.

Come on D

Flag of coursre

figures

Wtf

Williams sucks

Cmom greedy

That was offensive pass interference! But Brady complains and they give it to them

Well, they went awhile without a penalty.

That’s literally every play

When you lack technique and skill, foul.

It was a screen pass. The back was near the ball.

step forward 4 steps back

Told you - Brady's gonna pick on the rookie, the safety needs to be on his side of the field for help in coverage.

Murray with zero coverage

Like pie

Brady cried and got a call and now their moving

Our secondary is toast. Could you look any more disinterested

Murray on edelman is no bueno

complemantary football

Flag

wow, you guys are at least four plays ahead of me.

Unreal

COME ON MAN

Man lawerence gets flagged a ton

Official gonna officiate, against us.

Secondary is soft. No worries about getting popped.

Chip show

Lol they just give the Pat's all the calls....

Discipline Freddy DISCIPLINE!!!!

Someone needs to drive Brady into the turf. Take the penalty. Probably break Brady

Originally Posted By: CalDawg

wow, you guys are at least four plays ahead of me.

Hulu?

We continuously give them hundreds of yards

Yay for this constant undisciplined play...

We cant even sniff him hto

We can't play a clean game

You only have 11 on the field,

if 6 of them are committed to a failed pass rush, you got a big chance of getting hurt in the passing,

and ya, He did go deep down the sideline in the next "2' plays from when I said,

and they had a holding on Greedy, which wwouldn't be necessary if they hadn't lined up 9 on the line of scrimmage.

Originally Posted By: 1oldMutt

Originally Posted By: CalDawg

wow, you guys are at least four plays ahead of me.

Hulu?

No, CBS

Mack wilson rarely does anything good

Mack Wilson covers better than our safety

Edelman wipe open every play

We’re probablly going to get called for a house collar, not allowing them to take it to the house.

Here come the penalties again after you get back in the game.

Brady throwing quick passes no time to get there

Greedy Williams shouldn’t even be out there yet. Terrance Mitchell
Should be the other corner. He is better right now, Greedy needs to be the slot corner for now.

Just saw the flag on Lawrence

They’re going for it

Originally Posted By: 1oldMutt

Originally Posted By: CalDawg

wow, you guys are at least four plays ahead of me.

Hulu?

I have Hulu, I always check Swish post cause he is a play or 2 ahead of me

No respect. Punish them. Hurt brady

Yep, easy as pie

figures

Why was noone on him? Ridiculous

Originally Posted By: CalDawg

Just saw the flag on Lawrence

Man that's way behind. Hulu is about 1-2 plays at times.

Pathetic coverage. Know where the hell the first down is

Freddie loses another challenge

Originally Posted By: 1oldMutt

Originally Posted By: CalDawg

Just saw the flag on Lawrence

Man that's way behind. Hulu is about 1-2 plays at times.

Yeah, waaay behind

Too soft

Oh man, you know they are going to put the ball wherever the patriots want it, don't measure

Because it's league bias toward the patriots against the Browns.

Dumb

You knew they were going to give them the spot.

Been a long time since I’ve seen such incompetence from a coach

Not going to overturn that one

I was screaming they had 3 wide...and we had 2 in coverage...horrible call

Bad challenge unless they got another angle

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Freddie loses another challenge

Yup

Yeah, i mean thats a dumb challenge

Dumbest challenge of the year.

All Fredded up...

So you call a timeout, and then you call a challenge on a call you’re going to lose...

How many times has he done this?

They need to be playing man. Every offense finds our holes in the zone. EVERY WEEK!

Originally Posted By: FATE

Dumbest challenge of the year.

Unfortunately, you’re spot on.

Originally Posted By: Knight_Of_Brown

Greedy Williams shouldn’t even be out there yet. Terrance Mitchell
Should be the other corner. He is better right now, Greedy needs to be the slot corner for now.

I do have issue with this.

I don't think Greedy beat Mitchell for the starting spot.

Originally Posted By: tru_dawgs

Not going to overturn that one

I was screaming they had 3 wide...and we had 2 in coverage...horrible call

Me too. Totally inept.

Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist

So you call a timeout, and then you call a challenge on a call you’re going to lose...

How many times has he done this?

This is twice this short season.

Originally Posted By: tru_dawgs

Not going to overturn that one

I was screaming they had 3 wide...and we had 2 in coverage...horrible call

It was zone coverage.

Two weeks to prepare. This is the result...

FIRE KITCHENS NOW!

24-7 upcoming

Well after we lose this challenge it will be 24-7 going into the half...unless thier defense scores again....at this point I just want to see more discipline and improvement the rest of the year

The play is probably worth challenging on the off chance we get it overturned because it’s such a big play.

Good call freddie

Such a dumb challenge

Sweet! We wasted two timeouts!

I'm to old for this but I can't quit I'm to invested

He gets the ball out so quickly

Well, at least we're one TO shy of trying to score twice before the end of the half...

Flag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Flag

This is unbelievable

coaching matters

If Browns have an embarrassing loss to NE anyone think Dorsey fires Kitchens this week?

We are undisciplined. This starts at the top.

Lol I swear the nfl wants the Pat's to go undefeated

If freddie doesn’t lose his job then Should sell the team

Originally Posted By: Jcamm

coaching matters

Only if winning matters.

Taunt greddy taunt

Greedy is gonna be tired

ridiculous I guess NE doesn't make mistakes huh refs

HC career unraveling quickly on Fred Kitchens.

And the parade of flags against us continues.

Refs just looking for stuff to call on the Browns now.

Originally Posted By: Dawg Citizen

If Browns have an embarrassing loss to NE anyone think Dorsey fires Kitchens this week?

No, and I wouldnt be surprised if he gets another season

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Refs just looking for stuff to call on the Browns now.

It’s trendy.

Contact by 4 browns 3 yards behind line of scrimmage and still gets 2 yards

Edelman went to his face first lol

Did ya ever notice when the Browns play well,

The refs throw an unknown flag to help the other team out?

Seriously, that wasn't hands to the face very much

FG upcoming

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Refs just looking for stuff to call on the Browns now.

Yep....

I thought so too!

I’d love to see roidhead Edelman face planted

Ward with a block!

Blocked!!!!!

Okay good blocked

Now score

Sure would be nice to have at least a timeout on this drive.

Thanks, Freddie.

Gotta move it

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

Now score

I had a better chance of scoring when I was 16.

Wow we blocked a FG. Surprised the refs didn't call a penalty on us because something bad happened to NE.

Hold on to it

the one sidedness of penalties is getting a little ridiculous. Brady can blatanly ground the ball intentionally and get no call, but if someone puts a pinky on the edge of the facemask of a Patriots player, they call hands to the face.

These 3 points , Blocked!

That attempt brought to you by a Greedy Williams holding call, which wouldn't have been necessary if

If they'd lined up deeper and zone, and knew it was going to the sideline and not have committed so much to the pass rush, when New England wasn't even across the 50 yet, I think.

Score here and the game looks totally different

Chubb was close to breaking that one

Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist

Sure would be nice to have at least a timeout on this drive.

Thanks, Freddie.

we do have a timeout

Originally Posted By: s003apr

the one sidedness of penalties is getting a little ridiculous. Brady can blatanly ground the ball intentionally and get no call, but if someone puts a pinky on the edge of the facemask of a Patriots player, they call hands to the face.

The running back was in the area of the incompletion.

Yeah, it’s an important drive

Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist

Sure would be nice to have at least a timeout on this drive.

Thanks, Freddie.

Don't need it. Should be going up tempo anyway.

Originally Posted By: BustkeviousMingo

Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist

Sure would be nice to have at least a timeout on this drive.

Thanks, Freddie.

we do have a timeout

Meant to say “at least one more”.

Even if we don’t score. Don’t leave time for them

Not letting them get the ball back before halftime feels like a win here.

I don’t know why, but last year i had such a good feeling when we were in these positions ... and now i feel so uneasy when baker has to throw

That’s not a good play

Why are we running a sweep within two minutes?!

here comese the illegal downfield after this play is successful

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

I don’t know why, but last year i had such a good feeling when we were in these positions ... and now i feel so uneasy when baker has to throw

D coordinators are no dummies. Now Baker has to prove he's no fluke

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

I don’t know why, but last year i had such a good feeling when we were in these positions ... and now i feel so uneasy when baker has to throw

It’s probably the 80 interceptions.

Originally Posted By: cfrs15

Originally Posted By: s003apr

the one sidedness of penalties is getting a little ridiculous. Brady can blatanly ground the ball intentionally and get no call, but if someone puts a pinky on the edge of the facemask of a Patriots player, they call hands to the face.

The running back was in the area of the incompletion.

well, then you and I have a different interpretation of "in the area". I mean, yes, they were in the same zip code.

Okay now go

GO GO

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

I don’t know why, but last year i had such a good feeling when we were in these positions ... and now i feel so uneasy when baker has to throw

I think we’re all suffering from the Stockholm Syndrome, we’re fans of our oppressor.

Awful

sack

How does Bitonio score so well on pff. He’s soft

and timber

Originally Posted By: Tulsa

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

I don’t know why, but last year i had such a good feeling when we were in these positions ... and now i feel so uneasy when baker has to throw

I think we’re all suffering from the Stockholm Syndrome, we’re fans of our oppressor.

Battered fan syndrome.

They could have called a hold on their secondary

Originally Posted By: s003apr

Originally Posted By: cfrs15

Originally Posted By: s003apr

the one sidedness of penalties is getting a little ridiculous. Brady can blatanly ground the ball intentionally and get no call, but if someone puts a pinky on the edge of the facemask of a Patriots player, they call hands to the face.

The running back was in the area of the incompletion.

well, then you and I have a different interpretation of "in the area". I mean, yes, they were in the same zip code.

That’s all it takes. That cal happens every week to every team.

Where is the flag on them

Shoulda been a spike there instead of running a dead-giveaway play.

implode

McCray

Just punt

Has anyone seen Higgins at all?

I agree Marc, that could be a hold on them

self destruct mode activate

What a stupid call

Why are we running a bubble screen on 2nd and 25?!

This team just can't get out of it's own way.

Half mercifully ends

that was a productive 2 min drive

Typical end of half for a freddie coaches team

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

What another stupid call

Fixed it for you.

Is Higgins even playing?

Turtle.

FIRE KITCHENS NOW!

We just aren’t good enough to overcome coaching

Originally Posted By: tastybrownies

FIRE KITCHENS NOW!

You can post it all day... There's no one here to fire him.

Baker may go anti Fred.

Yeah where is Higgins?

lost a TO due to that stupid callenge

Cincinnati is looking forward to playing us.

I may go anti Baker...

Yeah Higgins is a no-show again?

Yes lets call a short pass with time running out instead throwing a hail Mary down field.

Has to be the worst two-minute drive I have ever seen in my life.

Is there anything Kitchens does that makes sense?

I'm really searching for answers here and I can't think of any.

Originally Posted By: CalDawg

Has to be the worst two-minute drive I have ever seen in my life.

lol i know it

well, to be honest, it could be much worse, however, it could be and should be much better. I am now of the mindset that Kitchens may be in over his head as a HC, just my current opinion. The clock management is still a horrible issue. Penalties are still a big issue. The Browns continue to put themselves in bad and ultimately unwinnable situations.

I think I’m going to the golf course and practice putting.

Originally Posted By: Psydeffect

Is there anything Kitchens does that makes sense?

I'm really searching for answers here and I can't think of any.

He didn't fumble the ball twice.

Originally Posted By: Tulsa

I think I’m going to the golf course and practice putting.

that’s a great idea ... I wish the weather would allow

I have to say .... we have made all of the mistakes ..... and have gifted NE 2 TDs .... and we are only down 10.

Now down 10 is not great by any stretch .... but NE isn't killing us .. we have.

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

McCray

McCray was drawn offsides clearly on that play by defensive player that jumped into and out of the neutral zone. Another BS call by the refs.

And the first fumble was a total fluke. I am shocked we are only down ten given the mistakes to this point. Their offense hasn’t been able to do much.

I know it ... thats what’s angering ... we SHOULD be in this game

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Originally Posted By: CalDawg

Has to be the worst two-minute drive I have ever seen in my life.

lol i know it

I disagree. The point wasn't to score. It was to prevent Brady from scoring again considering we get the ball after the half.

That may be somewhat of a loserish mentality but considering who we are playing and the state of the team it's not a bad option.

Sad thing is, the score should be 14-3 Browns.

We are fortunate to be only 10 pts down.

Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan

I have to say .... we have made all of the mistakes ..... and have gifted NE 2 TDs .... and we are only down 10.

Now down 10 is not great by any stretch .... but NE isn't killing us .. we have.

It's what we always do.

That half was a bit underwhelming.

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

I don’t know why, but last year i had such a good feeling when we were in these positions ... and now i feel so uneasy when baker has to throw

I wish we could see what would happen if there was a new offensive coach to help Freddy call plays,

This year, this week!

I think trying to be the Head Coach, and call plays as situations present themselves on offense, during the games,
is making for some head scratchers, head scratchers,

It just looks like everything is out of sync.

Honestly, I can't believe it's only 17-7. I fear the blowout is yet to come.

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan

I have to say .... we have made all of the mistakes ..... and have gifted NE 2 TDs .... and we are only down 10.

Now down 10 is not great by any stretch .... but NE isn't killing us .. we have.

It's what we always do.

This is the disappointing thing and also the thing that does not allow me to have hope for the second half.

Some of u guys are amazing.. complain about Kitchens not running it more. He does..and Chubb gives it to the Pats. TWICE. It aint coaching guys.. good grief.

Originally Posted By: Tulsa

I think I’m going to the golf course and practice putting.

See ya, wouldn't want to be ya.

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Originally Posted By: Psydeffect

Is there anything Kitchens does that makes sense?

I'm really searching for answers here and I can't think of any.

He didn't fumble the ball twice.

In a way he did.

Originally Posted By: AlwaysABrownsFan

Some of u guys are amazing.. complain about Kitchens not running it more. He does..and Chubb gives it to the Pats. TWICE. It aint coaching guys.. good grief.

God hates the Browns. That's all there is to it.

If this team EVER gets its act together and stops committing penalties and TO's they will be hard to beat ... "IF"

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Originally Posted By: CalDawg

Has to be the worst two-minute drive I have ever seen in my life.

lol i know it

I disagree. The point wasn't to score. It was to prevent Brady from scoring again considering we get the ball after the half.

That may be somewhat of a loserish mentality but considering who we are playing and the state of the team it's not a bad option.

Yep, low standards.

Anyone watching can see the refs are biased in the most opportune moments for the patriots with subjective calls, sad how rigged the nfl is

does anybody think that challenge was a first down for the Pats? I'm not sure it was? But, if most of you say yay, then I'll go with that, I have bad eyes so sometimes really close plays like this are harder for me to see, yeah, I would not make a good ref, but not because I don't have common sense or bias issues, like many of the striped shirts, but because I can't see well enough. lol

Originally Posted By: CalDawg

God hates the Browns. That's all there is to it.

God and the Refs.

Cowher hates the Pats so much he's pimping the Browns.

I’m only going to put the second one on Chubb, he assumed Bitonio was his teammate.

Originally Posted By: cfrs15

And the first fumble was a total fluke. I am shocked we are only down ten given the mistakes to this point. Their offense hasn’t been able to do much.

We are addicted to everything flukey

And the Pats D and the weather doesn’t lend itself to a comeback

Originally Posted By: Baker_Dawg

Anyone watching can see the refs are biased in the most opportune moments for the patriots with subjective calls, sad how rigged the nfl is

Your god is having a subpar day, and yet you want to criticize the refs. You’re ridiculous.

Originally Posted By: Hamfist

I’m only going to put the second one on Chubb, he assumed Bitonio was his teammate.

Bitonio got punked by their D-lineman.

Originally Posted By: Baker_Dawg

Anyone watching can see the refs are biased in the most opportune moments for the patriots with subjective calls, sad how rigged the nfl is

Yeah. The NFL always favors the Patriots.

Yeah, Bitonio got beat that play

Here comes the the part of game where we don't adjust

Originally Posted By: AlwaysABrownsFan

Some of u guys are amazing.. complain about Kitchens not running it more. He does..and Chubb gives it to the Pats. TWICE. It aint coaching guys.. good grief.

Yeah it is, the amount of penalties week in and week out is a testament to how poorly coached this team is.

Room is correct

Their D has not been that impressive!!

We have thrashed them in the run game. What's with you?

We have given them the game!

Originally Posted By: cfrs15

Originally Posted By: Baker_Dawg

Anyone watching can see the refs are biased in the most opportune moments for the patriots with subjective calls, sad how rigged the nfl is

Yeah. The NFL always favors the Patriots.

When you play like the keystone cops you don't get any calls

Notice how the Pats offense throw two out patterns short before going deep down the sideline?

Notice how they mix in the run off the tackle guard gap, and the middle field slant at the first down marker?

It's like they just sit back like a cobra just waiting to strike, looking for the opportunity.

cleveland played the worst first half ever and is still in it

Lol keystone cops was a great flick

Phew, just got it in

Hey Freddie, put your players in a position to make good decisions. That’s how you win.

Refs missed a false start

Chubb for 5

Good stuff.

good job chubb

Originally Posted By: AlwaysABrownsFan

Some of u guys are amazing.. complain about Kitchens not running it more. He does..and Chubb gives it to the Pats. TWICE. It aint coaching guys.. good grief.

A big part of it is. The team is undisciplined, looks unprepared and makes stupid mistakes. Strange play calling and poor clock management. That is on the HC.

Nice little move

Browns actually got away with a halfway crack back block on that screen,

but it started legal.

Dang, he had a hole there ... chubb for 3

well we're moving the ball again.

Feed the Chubb

Dang, almost broke it again

Woah, adjustments. Good job, Freddie.

Good cut chub ... 1st down

Keep running it if they can't stop it.

Good comparison to Jamal Lewis

Come back to it Harris

Originally Posted By: BarkinMad

does anybody think that challenge was a first down for the Pats? I'm not sure it was? But, if most of you say yay, then I'll go with that, I have bad eyes so sometimes really close plays like this are harder for me to see, yeah, I would not make a good ref, but not because I don't have common sense or bias issues, like many of the striped shirts, but because I can't see well enough. lol

I think that that would a been as close to just at the marker as it ever could get, but not sure which way actually would have been correct.

That’s the type of pass that we have had intercepted lately

Running at will

Chubb for a 1st ... nice run

Good job McCray

McCray is killin them

You know besides the 2 fumbles, Chubb is actually having a good game.

Why run to short side??

chubalub

One play I wished they would delete from playbook is the outside pitch. It doesn’t work in the nfl

Now here’s where we struggle

Phew, just got it to him

Maybe just kick the field goal on 2nd down.

meh.

No flags no TO

the one was a fluke off bationio kick

Flag flag

Baker running right into a sack

kick the FG

Of Course

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

One play I wished they would delete from playbook is the outside pitch. It doesn’t work in the nfl

Chubb ran for like 90 yard touchdown against Baltimore on that exact play.

Ran right into the sack.

Just horrible by mayfield

Where was baker going?

17-10

Baker...

17-10 not dead yet

Originally Posted By: cfrs15

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

One play I wished they would delete from playbook is the outside pitch. It doesn’t work in the nfl

Chubb ran for like 90 yard touchdown against Baltimore on that exact play.

Incorrect. It was an outside stretch not a pitch

Illegal shift? FG time, and it's good. Still wish we scored a TD there.

March down like that and not get 7....red zone woes strike again

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

March down like that and not get 7....red zone woes strike again

Be thankful were within 7

Well, we need a big play from the D now

Baker really got thrown down hard on his back on that sack.

Kick the Fg on 2nd down, save 45 secs of clock, and really confuse the guru of coaching who just dialed up a genius defensive call.

and stops the risk of a nother turnover, would of kept momentum.

even if it were criticized.

The missed TD pass to Harris will keep Mayfield from being elite.

We have an illegal shift every game as if the players don't know the plays.

Need a Mack Wilson interception

Good coverage

Originally Posted By: tru_dawgs

Need a Mack Wilson interception

I’ll take a positive play

Dang vernon almost there

Hes going to pick on greedy down the sideline again

in one of the next 3 plays,

No???

You know. We had the worst possible 1st quarter against an undefeated AFC Superbowl team in their house. Yet here we are in the 3rd and got it down to 1 score.

If we could just stop doing stupid stuff we could be a pretty good team.

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

The missed TD pass to Harris will keep Mayfield from being elite.

We have an illegal shift every game as if the players don't know the plays.

Don't forget this is only his second season.

Just cant get there ... 3rd and long

Stop here would be huge

I'm sick of how undisciplined of a team we are. We would be beating NE right now if we just stopped cutting our nose off.

Ward playing like the Ward of last year.

Wilks truly missed Greedy and Ward.

Screen

Unbelievable

Are you kidding me

Freaking horrible

Anyone not see that coming... pathetic

Saw the blitz coming a mile away.

What a play call

...but we sure didn’t miss getting gashed by a screen.

Dang it!!!

That’s how you do it

Screen pass goes for 59.

Who is #31?

No, a crazy middle right screen for like 50 yards.

Meh,

Schobert plain sucks. That’s why he hasn’t gotten a contract

That’s a killer

we would be dominating if ward makes the pic and no chubb fumble

Why cant we run a screen ever for a big play?

Screening the crap out of us

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

Schobert plain sucks. That’s why he hasn’t gotten a contract

How was that his fault?

Brady sniffs our every blitz

Holding

They held mack wilson on that play

Our linebackers can’t shed. BB sees that and is attacking jt

Dangit

They’re just tougher

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

Schobert plain sucks. Thats why he hasnt gotten a contract

Thought you meant Kirksey right.

nevermind.

We go down 24-10 its over

Good coaching vs what we have

True

Game over

Blitz him a Brady burns you which is why he's one of the greatest ever.

Sigh...all day

Game

Burned by wilks sissy scheme again

Where the F is garrett

good job D

Holding like crazy on that play but they wont call it on the Patriots

Holding again.

I guess the Patriots don't hold or commit any penalties

Garrett was OWNED there

Garrett got handled

Brady and Edelman are on a whole different level.

Can't make a play when it matters

Yeah the blowout is right on schedule

Football is easy for Tom Brady

Pats got away with a block in the back on that one.

Yeah the guy had his hands in Garrets face and no call he even blocked him in the back and tackled him. That was a horrible no call.

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

Good coaching vs what we have

And A great QB. Well at least the announcers are enjoying this.LOL

Dline is invisible for their status as one of the best Dlines

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Where the F is garrett

Getting held

Funny you’d think we’d scheme to take Edelman away like BB does OBJ

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Where the F is garrett

We never blitz and Garrett isn't superman.

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Where the F is garrett

Getting owned

fixed

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

I guess't hold or the Patriots don't hold or commit any penalties

If we were half as disciplined as New England we would be in first place in our division.

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Garrett was OWNED there

We would have gotten the holding call against us there

Anyone else expecting Baker hero ball to get an INT on this coming drive?

Wilkes needs to grow a set of balls and keep attacking. Can’t allow Brady that much time.

I hate the Patriots!

The Cleveland Just Never Good Enoughs.

Originally Posted By: Jcamm

Can't make a play when it matters

Since 99.

whenever we score to make it a game the D gives up point on the next series

Originally Posted By: EveDawg

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Where the F is garrett

We never blitz and Garrett isn't superman.

We blitzed on the pass to White and we blitzed on the pass to Burkhead.

Let’s be honest: we have more talent than NE does. They have a better coaching staff and culture

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Let’s be honest: we have more talent than NE does. They have a better coaching staff and culture

I cant say that...

Morgan Burnett coveting Edelman man to man on the TD. Horrible matchup.

falling apart

Originally Posted By: cfrs15

Originally Posted By: EveDawg

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Where the F is garrett

We never blitz and Garrett isn't superman.

We blitzed on the pass to White and we blitzed on the pass to Burkhead.

The perfect play called each time.

They have Callaway

Odell Beckham Jr.

(say this out loud with me, because something isn't adding up)

Landry,

and Higgans,

and I have ZERO confidence in their ability to throw the deep ball on this drive.

Somethings screwy here.

There’s the offense we’re used to

man Bitonio pretty bad

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Let’s be honest: we have more talent than NE does. They have a better coaching staff and culture

No question we have tons of talent.

Baker roll right...throws right out of bounds...so predictable

Yea this game is over. Browns are going to fall to 2-5, yikes.

So we blitzed twice this whole game?

If we don’t convert it’s game over.

And here’s where belichek will embarrass us

Ugh

Originally Posted By: EveDawg

So we blitzed twice this whole game?

You have no clue what you’re talking about.

Should Freddie resign or turn over play calling to the OC?

Burned a TO

Ne adjusts we don't

My buddy that’s a Pats fan denies the holds exists. 😂

Higgins! I didn’t know he was still in the team.

Failed on 16 straight 3rd and long. That’s just unacceptable and should be a resume generating event for a coac

Originally Posted By: Tulsa

Should Freddie resign or turn over play calling to the OC?

Both?

When Tom Brady retires, BB is gonna be our coach.

drop

Originally Posted By: cfrs15

If we don’t convert it’s game over.

The game was over when we gave up 3 turnovers in a row.

Nice catch OBJ!

there you go OBJ

I truly think if we can trade OBJ to help elsewhere I would

Perfect ball. Drop. Thanks OBJ.

OBL waste

Perfect pass. Drop.

Welp...our deadly O strikes again

this offense is garbage. Chubb is the only bright spot but you can only go so far with a running game.

I mean, OBJ has been one of the bigger disappointments too

A Clear block in the back not called on the PR sad

if he didnt push his hands would of been ready

Obj has to be up there in lead for dropped passes...every game.

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

A Clear block in the back not called on the PR sad

Yeah, I saw that too.

Trade obj he don't want to be here

Originally Posted By: tru_dawgs

Obj has to be up there in lead for dropped passes...every game.

We have the highest drop percentage in the league.

Originally Posted By: tru_dawgs

Baker roll right...throws right out of bounds...so predictable

He was flushed right.

Originally Posted By: BarkinMad

this offense is garbage. Chubb is the only bright spot but you can only go so far with a running game.

we move up and down the field against everyone. of coarse its tds for us and them

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

I mean, OBJ has been one of the bigger disappointments too

Entire team is

Total disappointment. Divas never payoff.

Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

A Clear block in the back not called on the PR sad

Yeah, I saw that too.

The Patriots don't have the same rules.

Nope an obj choke of course, you’re are biased as it get

Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

A Clear block in the back not called on the PR sad

Yeah, I saw that too.

How can the NFL justify this one sided officiating if your NE Dallas Pittsburgh GB you get a pass if your Cleveland they see everything ...

kill shot coming right up

Officially garbage time

They get the 'let them play' refs.

Bad coaching brings out the worst in players. Just saw it on that dropped pass by OBJ. You telling me a Pro Bowl WR doesn't know how to catch all of a sudden. It all starts with the HC my friends.

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

Officially garbage time

It’s been that for 2 ½ quarters.

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

A Clear block in the back not called on the PR sad

Yeah, I saw that too.

How can the NFL justify this one sided officiating if your NE Dallas Pittsburgh GB you get a pass if your Cleveland they see everything ...

When you play like this the refs can care less

Just not enough time left....a turnover now is the only thing that gives us a chance...

Our Db's never know where the ball is

Originally Posted By: cfrs15

Originally Posted By: tru_dawgs

Obj has to be up there in lead for dropped passes...every game.

We have the highest drop percentage in the league.

I honestly didn't know that. Wow.

Turn the F around defense

What to expect on this drive, 7 minutes of clock used and end in a field goal?

Gotta do something, that's lose lose,

it's crunch time and your're playing a guy going for win 300.

This squad needed a guy at the helm who has been there before. Generally I like a young guy but not with this group.

Originally Posted By: Dawg Citizen

Bad coaching brings out the worst in players. Just saw it on that dropped pass by OBJ. You telling me a Pro Bowl WR doesn't know how to catch all of a sudden. It all starts with the HC my friends.

Who do you want as the coach?

Garrett is so overrated

Originally Posted By: slick

Just not enough time left....a turnover now is the only thing that gives us a chance...

When was the last time we had one of those?

Sack

Edelman on a lb has been killing us all day.

Don’t trust hilliard back there

Originally Posted By: Jcamm

Garrett is so overrated

This coach was hand picked to please Baker, See Lebron and Lue

Originally Posted By: Jcamm

Garrett is so overrated

Your make yourself look dumb with that statement the guy is tied for the NFL lead in sacks

Originally Posted By: Jcamm

Garrett is so overrated

As a pass rusher he’s not. But he is one dimensional and doesn’t really make the plays elite guys do

Originally Posted By: Jcamm

Garrett is so overrated

Did you mean OBJ?

How can the announcer sit there and act like this is a fair game? Paid off by the nfl too?

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

Originally Posted By: Jcamm

Garrett is so overrated

Your make yourself look dumb with that statement the guy is tied for the NFL lead in sacks

As do you thinking that’s all he supposed to do

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

Originally Posted By: Jcamm

Garrett is so overrated

Your make yourself look dumb with that statement the guy is tied for the NFL lead in sacks

As do you thinking that’s all he supposed to do

No and thats not all he does you hate him more than anyone on this board so what doe that make your football IQ

We need to be in hurry up

We definitely have the ability to hang with NE its just that we kill ourselves

Originally Posted By: Jcamm

This coach was hand picked to please Baker, See Lebron and Lue

Lbj and Lue won a championship together

Tough to be Garret when OCs are game planning to avoid you.

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Originally Posted By: Dawg Citizen

Bad coaching brings out the worst in players. Just saw it on that dropped pass by OBJ. You telling me a Pro Bowl WR doesn't know how to catch all of a sudden. It all starts with the HC my friends.

Who do you want as the coach?

There are so many options Dorsey could go with. This is a subject for another thread and if Dorsey actually fires Kitchens.

3rd down

Always a third down.

Yep

Harris catch for 15

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

We definitely have the ability to hang with NE its just that we kill ourselves

Every week we have a laundry list of "but fors". But for the penalties. But for the turnovers. But for the refs. We are the Cleveland ButFors.

False start of course

Unreal

Flag every time drive killer

Late Call

Is Chubb gonna come away with the most yards hung on the NE D this season?

Good news, Browns get the ball back,

Bad news, Browns O got figured out by their last drive,

...

... 3rd and 2 hilliard comes in chubb goes out and they throw.

too predictable.

Afraid to run on 3rd and short?

Originally Posted By: cfrs15

Always a third down.

Always more than ten yards on first down.

Our TEs have to lead the league in penalties

Down by two scores and time running out but by all means take your time guys.

no other team is this undisaplined

Is it legal for a team to fine players for every penalty they make? If it is that's what we should be doing

we gregg williams mistake free stuff

Rather have Mack Brown as our coach

Originally Posted By: slick

Is it legal for a team to fine players for every penalty they make? If it is that's what we should be doing

I forgot who our coach was but I recall someone handing out fines...pettine? Or shermer? Or maybe even mangini

Goes back to training camp when freddie said he didn’t believe in making players run for penalties

Originally Posted By: tru_dawgs

Originally Posted By: slick

Is it legal for a team to fine players for every penalty they make? If it is that's what we should be doing

I forgot who our coach was but I recall someone handing out fines...pettine? Or shermer? Or maybe even mangini

maybe Mangini?

Anyone but Freddy. He is ruining this team.

Originally Posted By: tru_dawgs

Originally Posted By: slick

Is it legal for a team to fine players for every penalty they make? If it is that's what we should be doing

I forgot who our coach was but I recall someone handing out fines...pettine? Or shermer? Or maybe even mangini

Def sounds like a mangini thing

Originally Posted By: tru_dawgs

Originally Posted By: slick

Is it legal for a team to fine players for every penalty they make? If it is that's what we should be doing

I forgot who our coach was but I recall someone handing out fines...pettine? Or shermer? Or maybe even mangini

Your right, and it was mangini

Originally Posted By: slick

Is it legal for a team to fine players for every penalty they make? If it is that's what we should be doing

I think the players union may have a problem with that.

So dumb

duh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lol

Omg

Are you kidding me

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Originally Posted By: tru_dawgs

Originally Posted By: slick

Is it legal for a team to fine players for every penalty they make? If it is that's what we should be doing

I forgot who our coach was but I recall someone handing out fines...pettine? Or shermer? Or maybe even mangini

maybe Mangini?

William's took your job away. That's the one that stings.

Seriously trade obj for a linebacker or guard

there goes this drive

I’d have to think this offense couldnt be worse

Is it me or is every play Baker snapping the ball at 3 or 4 seconds? Nuts

Thanks again OBJ.

Hahahaha

OBJ has literally been a negative factor

The amount of penalties are freaking unbelievable.

Originally Posted By: 1oldMutt

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Originally Posted By: tru_dawgs

Originally Posted By: slick

Is it legal for a team to fine players for every penalty they make? If it is that's what we should be doing

I forgot who our coach was but I recall someone handing out fines...pettine? Or shermer? Or maybe even mangini

maybe Mangini?

William's took your job away. That's the one that stings.

Butch, Butch, Butch!

3rd and short

Good lord are we this dumb?!

How can a team have this many penalties?!?!

You're going to run out your own clock.

Hey! Why stop ya.

" it's as easy to follow someone from in front as behind" (copland)

How come Jamie Collins never played this inspired for us?

figures

Flag on us ... this is incredible

Lol pathetic

we can move the ball at least

PI - offense? Really?

Un freaking real

He’s going to waste another timeout

These refs are ridiculous

This team is so poorly coached

Why

We are so so so so stupid

And now we lose another timeout

Originally Posted By: cfrs15

He’s going to waste another timeout

This fool

Originally Posted By: cfrs15

He’s going to waste another timeout

+1000

His own player shoved him into his guy ...... and that's PI?

Unreal

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

We are so so so so stupid

We’re good at it,

Oh and another losing challenge. Freddy losing everything. Dumb hick

we can get this anyway

Freddie is the worst coach I’ve ever seen

Three wasted timeouts, Freddie.

Ugh...such total incompetence.

Clueless freddie waste a TO, Im getting him a rule book for Xmas

That is pathetic.

Convinced the Browns play the patsy who always loses in Big Time Wrestling. NFL is sad...

The announcers are ripping on the Browns.

I usually don’t want ownership to get involved but they need to step in and force dorsey to get rid of this coach and then get a consultant that’s actually hired a coach before

at this point a timeout isnt that bad

This is so bad. It can’t be said enough.

His staff have to be laughing behind his back.

Originally Posted By: Jcamm

Clueless freddie waste a TO, Im getting him a rule book for Xmas

Be sure and dress as Santaclaws when you deliver it.

Post game presser should be a hoot

I strongly dislike FK

Gotta go for it.

pick dropped

it's not the coaching guys lol

Yikes

Cue the benny hill music

Originally Posted By: superbowldogg

The announcers are ripping on the Browns.

They have been making fun of a ripping on the Browns all game.

I want a reporter to ask why he challenges the dumbest plays possible

It's time to fire Kitchens, and I mean immediately. Mayfield is also not our QB.

Hammer with a duck lol

Garbage

Sigh

Originally Posted By: Psydeffect

it's not the coaching guys lol

The game day decision making is among the worst I’ve ever seen.

Originally Posted By: Psydeffect

it's not the coaching guys lol

Please explain how our head coach has put our team in position to succeed every game? This offense barely makes any sense.

Wow the call stands. Seems like the only person who thought it wouldn't was Kitchens.

The glory days when we were not embarrassing

Originally Posted By: Psydeffect

it's not the coaching guys lol

It starts with the coaching, it’s not the end though.

How does Callaway get shoved into a defender, by another defender, and it's OPI?

Horrible defense

What a freaking pass

Bit so hard into the play fake

Our secondary is weak all across. We don’t have safeties

Cue our D breaking

Lol 2-5.....no playoffs......why is it that this never changes

Our linebackers almost never make a tackle at the LOS or behind

Vernon plays a better complete game than Garrett does

upcoming Den loss Buff loss

I smell a big play by Edelman here

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

Our secondary is weak all across. We don’t have safeties

Idk. I think they played pretty well this far.

Boooooooooo

Originally Posted By: Psydeffect

it's not the coaching guys lol

With the lol at the end are you being sarcastic or are you serious?

Originally Posted By: Jcamm

upcoming Den loss Buff loss

Buffalo is a fraud

easy as pie

Garrett circles the globe to get to QB

I dont trust a single player in our secondary or our second level to secure a tackle

The only thing in question: the spread

These "easy games" that are coming up are going to end Freddy's HC career.

Lolol

Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist

Originally Posted By: Psydeffect

it's not the coaching guys lol

Please explain how our head coach has put our team in position to succeed every game? This offense barely makes any sense.

That was sarcasm.

What a freaking pass

Lol, 3rd and 3 and our DBs are 7 yards back. Over and over. What a funny game

FIRE KITCHENS NOW!

outclassed

Thank god for Cincy or we’d be in the cellar again

Originally Posted By: redddog

These "easy games" that are coming up are going to end Freddy's HC career.

Highly likely.

Tom Brady is good at tackle football.

Dorsey needs to man up and fire Kitchens. Same mistakes, same penalties.

Have the pats made one big mistake? We’ve made about 20

Fire kitchens bring in McCarthy

Good thing we don’t have any challenges

They blew that dead awfully quickly

Can’t challenge

Wish we had a challenge.. good job fat boy

Tony Romo is sucking off Brady.

Turn out the lights
The parties over.

Pats had illegal shift right after Watson catch.

No call.

Originally Posted By: tastybrownies

Tony Romo is sucking off Brady.

Just like the old days

27-10

Well that's it ,now comes the infighting Freddie loses the team , Trade demands,Obj tweets, let the fun begin

This is on Dorsey. He needs to man up or this will be the end of his tenure as well. Is ok to be wrong. It's not ok to stay wrong.

It's a crime to have this much talent and suck this bad.

When we get some real coaches we will kill it.

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Pats had illegal shift right after Watson catch.

No call.

don't matter

Originally Posted By: Jcamm

Well that's it ,now comes the infighting Freddie loses the team , Trade demands,Obj tweets, let the fun begin

OBJ has zero room to talk

So tired of this....so damn tired of this......

I dunno, something about Kitchens and his gum chewing rubs me the wrong way

Originally Posted By: Jcamm

Well that's it ,now comes the infighting Freddie loses the team , Trade demands,Obj tweets, let the fun begin

Yeah ... OBJ should start tweeting .....

apologies.

They will never be called for that.

Originally Posted By: tastybrownies

Tony Romo is sucking off Brady.

He's a huge Darnold pimp over Baker. He's grudgingly had to acknowledge when Baker has a good play this game. You can tell it's killing him but Darnold has fallen off a cliff.

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

Our secondary is weak all across. We don’t have safeties

Tashaun Gipson, Jabril Peppers, and Tramon Williams,

Originally Posted By: chirp30

Dorsey needs to man up and fire Kitchens. Same mistakes, same penalties.

No improvement what so ever
...how many penalties?
...how many passes can Beckham drop?
...how many soft coverages on 3rd/4th and short?

This team is poorly coached...plain and simple...but Freddie is the players friend...hmmm, wasn't Hue the players friend?

Originally Posted By: redddog

This is on Dorsey. He needs to man up or this will be the end of his tenure as well. Is ok to be wrong. It's not ok to stay wrong.

He gave up his power to Baker we are stuck with Freddie as long as Baker is here

Originally Posted By: 1oldMutt

Originally Posted By: Jcamm

Well that's it ,now comes the infighting Freddie loses the team , Trade demands,Obj tweets, let the fun begin

OBJ has zero room to talk

Totally. He's looked like crap.

I said it once before. This wasn't a job for someone to cut their teeth on!

Originally Posted By: redddog

This is on Dorsey. He needs to man up or this will be the end of his tenure as well. Is ok to be wrong. It's not ok to stay wrong.

Not even close.

Dorsey got the talent here. The hc didnt do his job.

Originally Posted By: SunDawg

Originally Posted By: chirp30

Dorsey needs to man up and fire Kitchens. Same mistakes, same penalties.

No improvement what so ever
...how many penalties?
...how many passes can Beckham drop?
...how many soft coverages on 3rd/4th and short?

This team is poorly coached...plain and simple...but Freddie is the players friend...hmmm, wasn't Hue the players friend?

All after a bye week

Originally Posted By: slick

So tired of this....so damn tired of this......

The Browns weren't winning this game.

Come on, we all knew that.

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Originally Posted By: tastybrownies

Tony Romo is sucking off Brady.

He's a huge Darnold pimp over Baker. He's grudgingly had to acknowledge when Baker has a good play this game. You can tell it's killing him but Darnold has fallen off a cliff.

You're full of crap, I think Romo has called it perfectly today...Clowns shot themselves in the foot.

Let’s go O haha

Where is this Freddie player coach narrative coming from?

You guys just make stuff up.

We would be better letting Kitchens go

Promote Wills to HC and hand over OC duties to Monken and see how the rest of the season plays out, if we do well, keep Wilks and Monken if not move on

Originally Posted By: redddog

These "easy games" that are coming up are going to end Freddy's HC career.

You are probably right. Dorsey and Kitchens will right this game off because it was against NE. The so called easy games could be the end of Kitchens' HC career.

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Originally Posted By: slick

So tired of this....so damn tired of this......

The Browns weren't winning this game.

Come on, we all knew that.

That's true.

The disheartening thing is that they made mistakes that ensured it.

Dang Landry hurt

Concussion for landry

Great Jarvis done

Great, Landry's hurt.

Landry’s hurt. The only guy who can catch is hurt.

We wasted another stupid challenge and we are out of challenges when we needed one-again

Originally Posted By: SunDawg

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Originally Posted By: tastybrownies

Tony Romo is sucking off Brady.

He's a huge Darnold pimp over Baker. He's grudgingly had to acknowledge when Baker has a good play this game. You can tell it's killing him but Darnold has fallen off a cliff.

You're full of crap, I think Romo has called it perfectly today...Clowns shot themselves in the foot.

Did you read what I wrote?

What's full of crap?

Dang, maybe a shoulder injury

cursed

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

Wish we had a challenge.. good job fat boy

They wouldn't have over turned it.

Higgins still won't play

There goes our only receiver out for rest of year. That’s 100% collarbone

Wonderful in garbage time of another loss we lose Landry for probably the season

Ugh.

Midseason housecleaning again

Originally Posted By: superbowldogg

Originally Posted By: redddog

This is on Dorsey. He needs to man up or this will be the end of his tenure as well. Is ok to be wrong. It's not ok to stay wrong.

Not even close.

Dorsey got the talent here. The hc didnt do his job.

Correct. And your idiot HC is ruining the year. Dorsey needs to move on from Freddy now.

Ps what the heck ever happened to higgins????

They might rule incomplete pass too...not that it matters compared to losing Landry.

Its like fighting a war a bow and arrow vs a B52 bomber

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Originally Posted By: slick

So tired of this....so damn tired of this......

The Browns weren't winning this game.

Come on, we all knew that.

Mentally, I was actually prepared for something much worse.

Same thing that happened to the guy that lead team in TFL last year... our idiot coaches are clueless. Think about this . Every coach we have is because they were fired elsewhere

Originally Posted By: TrooperDawg

They might rule incomplete pass too...not that it matters compared to losing Landry.

Insult to injury.

hey it Higgy

Higgens had the 1st and gave it up.

Way to run backwards dumbass

Landry looks ok.

Higgins is active ... I’ve seen him out there just never been targeted

on us

There he is

Nice catch by Higgins!

When they zoom in on Baker...why does his face look so fat? Did he change helmets

this is honestly incredible

Originally Posted By: s003apr

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Originally Posted By: slick

So tired of this....so damn tired of this......

The Browns weren't winning this game.

Come on, we all knew that.

Mentally, I was actually prepared for something much worse.

Me too, it was our showing that's bothered me most. Two weeks to tighten things up and we get this.

What a fing joke

Of course it offensive PI. Whatelse would it be?

that was weak

WTF

Lol have the Patriots been penalized at all this game?

You have to be kidding me refs

Bullsh&& call

The refs SUCK!!!!!~

That’s so freaking bad

These refs are sooo bad

Die Ref

Please tell me the refs are calling it fair.

Higgins looks better than obj

Here we go!

Gee offensive pass int.

Hmm

look at that replay, what's his name, Michael Irvin never made a catch where he didn't molest the defender way more than that.

It was only a penalty because he caught it.

obj .. nope

we could of had Watson

I really don’t think baker is the guy

That was OPI????

I’m done.

Originally Posted By: slick

Lol have the Patriots been penalized at all this game?

Browns 11-75 NE 3-15

So we punt

These refs.

Dang Darren Fells is killing it in houston
..while our TEs are killing us lol

We’re punting

Why is Freddie punting here?

Another flag

Wow I know the game is a lose but way to quit.....

So you’re down a bazillion points and you punt. Go eat yourself into a coma fatty

I’m not sure why we’re punting? And now coming back out? Wtf is this

The refs screw us every game

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

Originally Posted By: slick

Lol have the Patriots been penalized at all this game?

Browns 11-75 NE 3-15

Make that 12-80

Lmao what are we doing

FK not the guy

go for it?

That was the dumbest call all game and that’s saying something.

Got Baker rocked again

this is another embarrassment

Draft a qb

I think it is illegal to call a penalty on NE at home...just saying

Wtf is freddy doing.

How many penalties do we have

This is a full blown embarrassment.

Boy oh boy

All the righteous posters who continue to claim the refs don't show preferential treatment, please stand up.

What is Fred thinking? Backed up THEN go for itr?

Freddy is sooooooooo stupid going for it on 4th and 16

Oh look Garrett with his 10th meaningless sack

Originally Posted By: slick

So tired of this....so damn tired of this......

this.

... Coaching matters.

Freddy is literally stupid

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

Draft a qb

Draft a coach

FK is the dumbest coach I’ve ever seen in the NFL, and that’s just stating what i see through 7 games

Please let that story be fake

wait, is that statement about the 4th down true?

I'd swear Fred is trying to get crap canned!

Originally Posted By: cfrs15

Please let that story be fake

PLEASE

Resign Freddie, please resign.

I hate the Browns.

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

wait, is that statement about the 4th down true?

If true it’s just about as dumb as you can get

Originally Posted By: cfrs15

Please let that story be fake

I know.

LOL

Mayfield is nearly crying come off that series

He is realizing you gotta work and watch film 1000% times more in the pros than you do in college.

This just might be the moment Mayfield is humbled enough that he just might finally be starting to get it.

He going to have work harder than he ever has this offseason
And watch more film that he has in the last 5 years but he can dig himself out of this.

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

Oh look Garrett with his 10th meaningless sack

Why do you hate Garrett so much?

I’m pretty just about everyone whether they admitted or not knee kitchens wasn’t going to be successful. He had done nothing that made him a credible option. Wiley was right. Last year was GW and zampese. There’s no doubt about that

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Originally Posted By: cfrs15

Please let that story be fake

I know.

LOL

It’s fireable.

Ummmm freddie needs to go

I hope Baker gives up and walks to the locker room.

Originally Posted By: HewDawg

I hate the Browns.

Haha. Me too.

See you next sunday.

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Originally Posted By: cfrs15

Please let that story be fake

PLEASE

That was special

Do you even watch the games?
That was for KoB.

BB still coaching as always

Originally Posted By: HewDawg

I hope Baker gives up and walks to the locker room.

You want to go 2-14?

Originally Posted By: HewDawg

I hope Baker gives up and walks to the locker room.

Really?

Baker wasn't the issue today.

That was ugly

John Dorsey has to see that Kitchens is NOT a NFL Caliber Head Coach. Baker has talent but he's also mighty midget, I don't know if he can overcome the height thing, plus, he gets rattled so easily, if he can't handle the mental side of things and he can't see part of the time, then he's not going to be successful, then throw in subpar coaching and it's a f'n disaster. Same ol' losing Browns since 1964.

The D and ST are actually halfway decent. lol

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

Freddy is sooooooooo stupid going for it on 4th and 16

That is the call that got Freddy fired.

Romo talking truth now

Bakers struggling like I thought he might.
This atmosphere of incompetence isn't helping any.

Get rid of the damn ball

Dear NFL.

Let me know when you get officiating repaired, so I can start watching games again.

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Originally Posted By: HewDawg

I hope Baker gives up and walks to the locker room.

Really?

Baker wasn't the issue today.

He may not have been the sole problem but he made some dumbass throws and plays, that's for sure.

Is NE so good that they never commit penalties

Jc

I think baker is our QB

I think Freddie needs to stop calling plays

I think we have enough talent to only have lost 2 games.

Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan

Dear NFL.

Let me know when you get officiating repaired, so I can start watching games again.

It's always called when the Browns have a big play. Totally ticky tack subjective calls.

There's your guy. Belichick's kid. If he's half of Bill you got a winner.

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

Is NE so good that they never commit penalties

Even when they do .. they didn't really mean to ... so no flag.

Nice run by Baker

Nice run

How’s there no flag?

Pass interference

How does baker not get the first. Take the hit sissy

Pats get that call for sure

Flag on us

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

How’s there no flag?

It's NE

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

How does baker not get the first. Take the hit sissy

Hell no

Jeez

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Pats get that call for sure

100%

Doesn't matter who the players are. Doesn't matter who the coaches are. Doesn't matter who the owner is. Doesn't matter who the QB is. Year in and year out we stink. And not just stink. Stink in new and unique ways, finding ways to completely embarrass the fanbase and debase us as human beings. It is truly uncanny.

13-85

Just unacceptable. Kitchens has to go. Fans need to stop supporting this trash

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

How does baker not get the first. Take the hit sissy

You don't understand the game, right?

He would have run another 20-30 seconds off the clock if he had stayed in bounds.

...I don’t even.

FG LOL

Run Chubb there?

I'm not a fan of this move here.

Kicking a FG here?

Freddie with another head scratcher.

If its two down territory anyways and 3rd and 1, why not run the ball on 3rd and 1?

6 false starts. Their kicking a FG down 17? Really?

Well we have a Kicker

haha i love that PBandJ video

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

13-85

Ugh 6 false starts.

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Freddie with another head scratcher.

Looks kinda lost at the moment

Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

How does baker not get the first. Take the hit sissy

You don't understand the game, right?

He would have run another 20-30 seconds off the clock if he had stayed in bounds.

And? Not like we have a chance anyways. You aren’t even worth responding to. Hate that I did

I hate the Browns.

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Freddie with another head scratcher.

I thought he was infallible?

Originally Posted By: CalDawg

Doesn't matter who the players are. Doesn't matter who the coaches are. Doesn't matter who the owner is. Doesn't matter who the QB is. Year in and year out we stink. And not just stink. Stink in new and unique ways, finding ways to completely embarrass the fanbase and debase us as human beings. It is truly uncanny.

I feel ya man.

The only solution is to check out.

My question why wasn't Chubb in the game when it was 3rd and 1

And with this our playoff hopes have officially died

That was one of the best onside kick plays I have seen since they pretty much took the onside kick out of the game.

Why the heck is he kicking a field goal? That's a firable offense in my opinion.

Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Freddie with another head scratcher.

I thought he was infallible?

I never said he was infallible or without blame. I was just trying to have some perspective.

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

And with this our playoff hopes have officially died

We can go 11-5.

LOL

Our 2nd or 3rd best player probably never touched a football until a few years ago..

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

And with this our playoff hopes have officially died

We can go 11-5.

LOL

Hahahaha

Well on the positive side: We ran the heck out of the ball. Higgins is back. Hunt's in next week.

We just need to stop practicing penalties and clean up the three turnovers in three plays at the start of the game thingy. Ugh

Originally Posted By: TrooperDawg

Well on the positive side: We ran the heck out of the ball. Higgins is back. Hunt's in next week.

We just need to stop practicing penalties and clean up the three turnovers in three plays at the start of the game thingy. Ugh

Hunt is not back until our 9th game.

We've not cleaned up our game all year. Inexcusable!

Originally Posted By: CalDawg

Doesn't matter who the players are. Doesn't matter who the coaches are. Doesn't matter who the owner is. Doesn't matter who the QB is. Year in and year out we stink. And not just stink. Stink in new and unique ways, finding ways to completely embarrass the fanbase and debase us as human beings. It is truly uncanny.

I still say things are going to turn around for this franchise. We have a good GM who will continue to build this team. He will realize Freddie wasn't the right choice and correct the situation. Just think how great it's going to feel when we start winning! Hang in there.

well well,, Another game where the Offense is not ready coming out the gate. I'm not going to even talk about the penalties because some of them were VERY TICKY TACKY..

Freddy is a rookie coach that looks like one. Like Romo said, the Browns do stuff that makes the game even harder on them. Freddy needs to get some real questions lobbed his way instead of his crappy folksy answers!!

He does not have this football team ready to play.

Originally Posted By: TrooperDawg

Well on the positive side: We ran the heck out of the ball. Higgins is back. Hunt's in next week.

We just need to stop practicing penalties and clean up the three turnovers in three plays at the start of the game thingy. Ugh

Hunt isn't eligible to play until week 10 against the Bills

Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan

Originally Posted By: TrooperDawg

Well on the positive side: We ran the heck out of the ball. Higgins is back. Hunt's in next week.

We just need to stop practicing penalties and clean up the three turnovers in three plays at the start of the game thingy. Ugh

Hunt is not back until our 9th game.

Right. My bad. But I do think McCray to LT was a good move.

2 - 5

Awesome record.

McCray made some mistakes, but I think that he had some really nice blocks in the run game.

Penalty on NE .... 1st of the 2nd half, IIRC.

With less than a minute left, we finally get a PI call.

I thought you were going golfing.

Originally Posted By: Tulsa

With less than a minute left, we finally get a PI call.

Because it cant hurt them now

Baker is just clueless and has no SA

why is Baker still in there?

Going to practice and I did. If you live at the course, it’s a short drive.

Going meekly into the night with a wimper

Thank goodness that mess is over!

If I wre Dorsey, I'd let Kitchens finish the season, but I'd start looking for his replacement now. Well, they didn't hang 40 on us, but still, we were never a threat to win this game do to our numerous mistakes.

This is a rudderless ship. No leader on either side

Originally Posted By: BarkinMad

If I wre Dorsey, I'd let Kitchens finish the season, but I'd start looking for his replacement now. Well, they didn't hang 40 on us, but still, we were never a threat to win this game do to our numerous mistakes.

I agree. look on the bright side, keeping Kitchens my get us another high draft choice. LOL

Originally Posted By: Dawg Citizen

Originally Posted By: CalDawg

Doesn't matter who the players are. Doesn't matter who the coaches are. Doesn't matter who the owner is. Doesn't matter who the QB is. Year in and year out we stink. And not just stink. Stink in new and unique ways, finding ways to completely embarrass the fanbase and debase us as human beings. It is truly uncanny.

I still say things are going to turn around for this franchise. We have a good GM who will continue to build this team. He will realize Freddie wasn't the right choice and correct the situation. Just think how great it's going to feel when we start winning! Hang in there.

The mantra since 1964.

Please, this is Dorsey's mess!!.. He is the one who went with Freddy instead of Williams. He was the one that did not build the Oline. You wont see Dorsey near a microphone anytime soon.

Freddy is going to get canned before the season is over.
Knee jerk time.

This running joke is beyond old...Wash, rinse, repeat.

Everyone is going to be canned at the end of the season.

Yea. Id fire kitchens tonight for the fumbles and stupid decision by the QB to pitch the ball right to the rusher after he destroyed the guard. Lets just get a new coach every week if he loses.