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The only question that matters:

How will we blow this?

Blow? That would indicate we are winning..lol

Von Miller strip sack returned for TD.

Originally Posted By: cfrs15

The only question that matters:

How will we blow this?

That would imply that the Browns would somehow take the lead and then lose. I will sign up for a 1 point loss right now. LOL

by not tackling

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

Blow? That would indicate we are winning..lol

I would argue you can blow the game while you're losing.

Originally Posted By: cfrs15

The only question that matters:

How will we blow this?

Another reason we need cheerleaders.

This is the biggest half of the year IMO

Rules are made to be followed even if you think there stupid, why does OBJ have to push the envelope, and now he is beginning to infect Landry and the rest of the team ... JMHO

2nd half adjustments? John Dorsey owning up to picking a crap coach and begin the hunt for someone else. No discipline. No control. Bad decisions. Bad play calling.

Rich gannon’s hair is like a mole

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Rich gannon’s hair is like a mole

It looks like he used spray paint to color his hair.

Even if we come back and win, its still a dumster fire

Haha it does

Here we go the season is on the line

(Ralphie in a Christmas story)

Where the ? is Beckham!

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

Rules are made to be followed even if you think there stupid, why does OBJ have to push the envelope, and now he is beginning to infect Landry and the rest of the team ... JMHO

this wouldn't be a problem if Freddie wound' let him get away with it.

Chubb for 4

Originally Posted By: Jcamm

Even if we come back and win, its still a dumster fire

This is the best our offense has played since the Baltimore game.

(This opinion is subject to change based on the second half.)

OBJ such a diva

Originally Posted By: Dean

2nd half adjustments? John Dorsey owning up to picking a crap coach and begin the hunt for someone else. No discipline. No control. Bad decisions. Bad play calling.

Dorsey is not afraid to move on from his mistakes.

junk

How do you overthrow a screen?

Mayfield still can’t throw a touch pass

That woulda been a HUGE play

Had the right call ... Baker over throws

That screen was set up all the way perfect. Forty yard gain minimum.

Man, that was going a LONG way

RSJ is out.

useless

Fourth down

Go for it.

All that and still don’t get the 1st

figures. I"ve been calling for a RB screen. smh

Punt

Not sure who sucks more. Baker or kitchens

Punting

Dangit

And of course special teams failure

3 and out... great.. that miss on the screen was huge.. I cannot blame Freddy on that one

Sorry but Hilliard is playing way to much taking Chubb off the field

Fire Freddie Kitchens.

Qb is holding this team back more than any position.

Tulsa
Quote. sure wish I could get Cleveland radio here. I’d love to hear what they are saying locally.

Use the Browns app and click on radio at the top after its loaded,then pick listen live

Baker has the touch of a jackhammer. Reminds me of Derek Anderson. Ouch.

Biggest miss of the game on O was that screen

Defense needs a score

Originally Posted By: 1956Dawg

Tulsa
Quote. sure wish I could get Cleveland radio here. I’d love to hear what they are saying locally.

Use the Browns app and click on radio at the top after its loaded,then pick listen live

I didn’t think they streamed the game?

Come on D

Bakers on a one man crusade to rid himself of the monster he endorsed...FK.

RSJ is done for today - great.

Whoa, we gut lucky on that one!

Man, almost

That was almost a kill shot

Originally Posted By: cfrs15

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

Blow? That would indicate we are winning..lol

I would argue you can blow the game while you're losing.

No. By definition you have to have a lead to blow it.

Newspapers used to use this phrase-ology all the time,

The Browns have not led at any point in this game yet,

The papers may not use it much anymore, but back in the 90's or before there would have been hundreds of reports of teams blowing a lead, and all by definition would have meant the team had had at least "a" lead at some point in the game.

Our safety play leaves a lot to be desired

flag

Originally Posted By: 1oldMutt

Bakers on a one man crusade to rid himself of the monster he endorsed...FK.

He should audible A LOT more.

Killing ourselves

Rookie qb embarrassing our scrub ass defense

It’s pretty sad when the rookie QB picks on your pro bowl corner, and wins.

You know.. like what the hell was he looking at

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Our safety play leaves a lot to be desired

The safeties were in man coverage on that play. Zero blitz.

Man, chargers crushing GB

We got lucky when Ward fell down.

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

Not sure who sucks more. Baker or kitchens

Just give it a lot of thought and let us know after the game.

Good job D

Originally Posted By: jfanent

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

Not sure who sucks more. Baker or kitchens

Just give it a lot of thought and let us know after the game.

This is my favorite post.

Sack Mack Wilson!!!

WOW>.. that was a killer blitz

Keep blitzing Ike that

Fg coming right yp

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

Sack Mack Wilson!!!

Why do you want to sack Mack?

Our ball at our 47

If Mack Wilson doesn't get him on that blitz then Garrett does.

Can we atleast take one shot down the field

Come on Baker we need to get the lead

like a rocket?

Even euro's understand offense.

I wonder if they can go down and get 3 points on this drive?

we just nee 3 more fgs

Good Job by the D now we need a TD

Baker need to stick with one style. either the bearded look or the clean look or the Fu man chu look

Gotta get some rhythm now O

Where is Beckham!

Originally Posted By: Tulsa

Originally Posted By: 1956Dawg

Tulsa
Quote. sure wish I could get Cleveland radio here. I’d love to hear what they are saying locally.

Use the Browns app and click on radio at the top after its loaded,then pick listen live

I didn’t think they streamed the game?

The radio broadcast they do

OBJ is dumb to even have on the team

Originally Posted By: THROW LONG

Where is Beckham!

Polishing his shoes

Block OL

Baker needs to be holding a clipboard

COME ON

Originally Posted By: 1956Dawg

Originally Posted By: Tulsa

Originally Posted By: 1956Dawg

Tulsa
Quote. sure wish I could get Cleveland radio here. I’d love to hear what they are saying locally.

Use the Browns app and click on radio at the top after its loaded,then pick listen live

I didn’t think they streamed the game?

The radio broadcast they do

Thank you.

We need to see the endzone view of that sack. We were going deep.

welp.. the line did what they usually do

Going Backwards

WTF is this offense?

Freddie kitchens is the worst coach we’ve ever had. We’ve been more competitive with a lot less talent

Every team can make the WR screen work .... except us.

WTF Freddy.. you gonna throw that play.. He does not think

Once again sending all the wr's on 10 to 20 yard routes .....the result.....another sack

Woo Hoo! Not against us!

PF on them

That'll do.

Break

Baker...get the hell out of there and stop taking sacks. Run with the damn ball! Geezus.

Come on ... capitalize

Originally Posted By: slick

Once again sending all the wr's on 10 to 20 yard routes .....the result.....another sack

The entire right side of our line getting whooped contributed.

Dropped

Catch the ball

Back to the practice squad.

1st down by penalty, after a sack and a pass for negative 5.

1st at the denver 45.

Carlson drops it through his arms off his chest,

how do they find players who do that?

Carlson?

Landry whiffed on a block on that pass to Harris.

Tough Run

Harris for 9

Nothing says, “I don’t know how to call plays”, like a 4 field goal game.

Originally Posted By: THROW LONG

Where is Beckham!

Hangin with higgins

Nice job by Harris. (with Landry help)

Harris is our most determined offensive skilled position player (not named Chubb) today.

Chubb for 5

they keep saying we have a brutal first half... if we won more of those games... it wouldn't have been one of the toughest schedules
.

Nice pass to lose 2 yards.

I hate everything about kitchens

Any reports on Sealy jones? Would hate to lose him for the season

How cute can we get boys

FREDDY is an IDIOT.. TOO CUTE

Where the hoot is Beckham!

!!!

Nice all that faking for a dump off

That was a weird looking play.

Originally Posted By: slick

Any reports on Sealy jones? Would hate to lose him for the season

He's out.

Originally Posted By: BADdog

Originally Posted By: THROW LONG

Where is Beckham!

Hangin with higgins

- he is on the field.

Heck of a catch

Damn nice play there.

Juice

2018 Baker on that throw.

Landry = HANDS

Great play

Where is Beckham?

Originally Posted By: THROW LONG

Where the hoot is Beckham!

!!!

on the field.

Freddie drew that fancy play up whilst on the crapper...

Chubb for 0

Originally Posted By: Tulsa

Originally Posted By: 1956Dawg

Originally Posted By: Tulsa

Originally Posted By: 1956Dawg

Tulsa
Quote. sure wish I could get Cleveland radio here. I’d love to hear what they are saying locally.

Use the Browns app and click on radio at the top after its loaded,then pick listen live

I didn’t think they streamed the game?

The radio broadcast they do

Thank you.

Welcome

Face Mask not called

Face mask?

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

I hate everything about kitchens

You hated everything about the Cavs when they won the championship.

Teller got owned on that run for one by Chubb.

Like the Ref was going to see that ..

How do you miss that

Landry for 5

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

How do you miss that

Your work for the NFL.

Originally Posted By: cfrs15

Teller got owned on that run for one by Chubb.

Chubb switch holes.

That wasn't on Teller

QB sneak please.

Why hilliard??

Stop giving the fing ball to anyone other than chubb

Tell Freddy to put Chubb in

Kick it

dont hand off to hilliard here

Chubb not on the field for fourth and one.

Got it!

CHUBB come on

And missed it

If I was Landry I'd be all over my supposed best friend. Contribute you load!

Originally Posted By: superbowldogg

Originally Posted By: THROW LONG

Where the hoot is Beckham!

!!!

on the field.

I know but all the Supermodels are asking "Where is he"!

Oh know, they just ran Hilliard with the game on the line AGAIN!!!

Please fire kitchens immediately

What a horrible spot

Oh my

wtf why run it when you have the best back in the NFL

.....

Why do we get screwed

Should’ve kicked it

Freddie is bad at coaching football

Can't challenge that.

That was a horrible spot. Gotta replay that one.

Trying to be smart and cute and his fat ass is neither

Horrible sopt ... but the challenge wont help

That was a crap spot.

Can we challenge tho?

Not having Chubb on the field for that play is ridiculous.

Terrible spot but you got Chubb but not use him

They are saying you cant challenge it

Originally Posted By: cfrs15

Not having Chubb on the field for that play is ridiculous.

bingo

He did not get first down. that is terrible.

They don't have the camera angle.

Fire Freddie Kitchens.

IMO we had the first down ... but there’s no view of it

Originally Posted By: cfrs15

They don't have the camera angle.

Yeah, I’m afraid we’re going to lose a TO to go along with the football.

1st down by a yard

Chubb leads the league in yards per carry and is on the bench ... Really Freddie

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Originally Posted By: cfrs15

Not having Chubb on the field for that play is ridiculous.

bingo

I don't mind the QB sneak at all but not having the threat of Chubb on the field is unexplainable.

Why wouldn't NY initiate then?! You have to in that situation!

First off you have chub but don't use him. Second we will probably lose thi challenge...which will kill our momentum....which could be the end

Originally Posted By: slick

They are saying you cant challenge it

They are wrong. He can challenge the spot.

We got it but ...

Play stands

Garbage.

Instead of asking Freddy about shoes, why not ask about dumb calls like that!! Freddy, you need 1 yard and you have Chubb on the bench... REALLY!!

Another screwing

Too much crappy brown in there to see. Ditch those things already.

[censored]

Typical.

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Originally Posted By: cfrs15

Not having Chubb on the field for that play is ridiculous.

bingo

No...that's Freddie. If I'm Dorsey I am TELLING Freddie he is no longer calling plays. Period. If he walks, Wilks is the interim coach and we move forward. Enough of the jackass and his oversized ego. This is ridiculous. Now I'm just getting pissed.

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

Another screwing

By who?

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

Please fire kitchens immediately

3 TIMES this game, including 2 plays ago,

today 3rd and 4, or 6 I forget,

3rd and 7
and 3rd and 3 there,

they get to 3rd with Chubb on the field and sit him on the sidelines for Hilliard on the 3rd down "crucial" play.

it's it's it's it's insane! and 13 times this year.

Should’ve kicked it. Or should’ve ran Chubb.

Welp that's game

We get screwed again.

Thanks NFL.

This team is atrocious.

I have no idea why Chubb is not in there on these plays. Same thing last week. The factory is on overtime for the foreseeable future. Drudge on
fans.

horrible play calling. just terrible.

you have a top 2 RB in the NFL and you run a QB sneak. smh

Now we fold

I’m just glad it finally turned 5:00 here, time to start drinking.

Baker can’t make that throw

Getting schooled

Their QB schooling us

There goes the field position. That was the silver lining if we didn't convert the fourth down.

Tired of watching but I can't help myself

Baker did a Gary Coleman
He came up short

This team cant catch a break or make their own

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

Baker can’t make that throw

Why not go be a Bronco fan then?

It's time to fire Kitchens.

oh look... a touch pass

Fred, out coaching himself yet again.

Originally Posted By: Iluvmyxstripper

Baker did a Gary Coleman
He came up short

Didn’t that happen at the combine?

should of stayed with the 3s

Allen looking like Tom Brady

That is what I would do.. He either takes the change or hits the road...

He comes the long game sealing scoring drive

Greedy Williams' tackling has surprised me this year.

I'm going to sit Beckham!

I'm going to Start Mitchell at Cb,

and TJ Carrie too.

Next game, if it were up to me, Mix things up! Send a message.

15-17 would have been nice.

Ignored face mask on Chubb

Ripped off on spot for QB sneak

Charge us a TO when turnovers are supposed to automatic challenge.

Don’t tell me the NFL is BS

It's time to let Kitchens go.

Yep keep letting him sit there and throw Wilkes

Wide Open!

Williams is going to be a good player.

once we get randall back we will have a solid backfield.

Originally Posted By: myka

Charge us a TO when turnovers are supposed to automatic challenge.

The CBS ref was wrong on this.

FIRE EVERYONE! NOW!

Hahaha. Allen looks better than baker has the whole season

This is pathetic

SHoebert

Originally Posted By: Tulsa

Wide Open!

Sure was

Originally Posted By: Tulsa

Wide Open!

that was a good play call.

Just put in Gilbert already so we can win the damn game

I look for us to give the Bungles their first win

What's Eotab thinking now

Game over

Worst linebackers and safeties in the nfl

Embarrassing.

Well
This game is over

No excuses

They just ran a pick on us.

This is worse than the WWE

Pathetic

Great. Penalty on us and they score anyway.

Season is over. And I mean big time, all coaches are questionable at this point.

Originally Posted By: HarleyDawg51

I look for us to give the Bungles their first win

Agreed

Originally Posted By: superbowldogg

Originally Posted By: Tulsa

Wide Open!

that was a good play call.

Not by us.

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Now we fold

96 yard drive. Nice call.

I want dorsey fired too

D is quitting.

Cue blowout

Flags are always in us even against a team like Denver

Pshh

In all honestly there’s no way any coach should keep their job

Originally Posted By: myka

They just ran a pick on us.

This is worse than the WWE

Their receiver literally didn't touch our corner.

Hot garbage.

And we got a penalty lol

He's thinking ok I gotta start a Homer thread
We can win 8 in a row

So when are the DT refs gonna open the draft forum?

Looks like it’s back to normal browns tradition around here.

Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg

D is quitting.

Quit 3 games ago

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

Worst linebackers and safeties in the nfl

No it’s obvious they have quit on Kitchens. Get rid of Kitchens the guys will buy back in. Right now they are like **** it I’m not getting hurt for this fat clown

If this guy at the bar could stop touching me that would be great.

Welp time to blow it up again

Fire the whole staff or just move the team to the CFL.

Originally Posted By: Tulsa

Originally Posted By: superbowldogg

Originally Posted By: Tulsa

Wide Open!

that was a good play call.

Not by us.

correct LOL

Well what will be said about this... its always some crap.. our D does not hold when it should.. 95 yards... you gotta be kidding me.... And I bet the media will have the nerve to talk about shoes!!.. what the hell..

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

Flags are always in us even against a team like Denver

Wahhhhhhhhhhhhh

They only ran that stupid defense 2 times all day.

Once on the Fant Touchdown

and ONce on that touchdown.

What the garble garble is going on!

4 on the line
4 on the 2nd level

and NOBODY CAN TACKLE and the safety is absent!!!!

Bob Wiley listening to the radio in his Maserati laughing his ass off

nail meet Freddie's coffin

Unprepared.

This is on the coach. Let’s not ever have Dorsey pick a coach again. Stick to evaluating players.

Soooo ... I’m not even sure what to say about this effort today

Originally Posted By: EveDawg

If this guy at the bar could stop touching me that would be great.

Originally Posted By: Knight_Of_Brown

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

Worst linebackers and safeties in the nfl

No it’s obvious they have quit on Kitchens. Get rid of Kitchens the guys will buy back in. Right now they are like **** it I’m not getting hurt for this fat clown

It sure looks like that's what is going on.

Originally Posted By: Swish

So when are the DT refs gonna open the draft forum?

Looks like it’s back to normal browns tradition around here.

Yeah I already miss draft talk and mock drafts

kitchens Presser will say... "we will look at the film and see what we have to fix".

The 0 and 16 team played with more heart

This team played with more discipline and heart under Hue

Originally Posted By: THROW LONG

They only ran that stupid defense 2 times all day.

Once on the Fant Touchdown

and ONce on that touchdown.

What the garble garble is going on!

4 on the line
4 on the 2nd level

and NOBODY CAN TACKLE and the safety is absent!!!!

Randall is out. that's why our safties look so bad.

Fire Kitchens
Fire Monken
Fire Wilks
Elevate Mike Preifer

Dead man walking, Bills game gonna be a hoot

Maybe now the Genius & KJ labels can come down until we actually do something. Maybe next off season we can get some more "real players".

Regarding the Baker run we lost on appeal I really think if the camera had been on the other side of the field it would have been overturned. I think the shot from behind showed he had enough forward progress but was pushed back. Just bad luck there.

Leadway, your usually negative just to be negative bu you are right.. Bob is laughing is ass off now

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

Bob Wiley listening to the radio in his Maserati laughing his ass off

While sitting in an arbys drive thru

If that wasn't a D quitting, I don't know what is... We don't have time for 4 more FGs so this is over.

Nearly impossible to come back from two scores against this defense.

Does anyone here remember when watching the browns was fun?

Special teams coach Prieffer has done a great job thus far.

I really don't get some of the play designs we have used with a bad OL. I also look at some of the things Denver is doing with their RBs and TEs, and there is no reason we can't do those same things. (at least before Seals-Jones got hurt)

I just don't know. I just don't know.

There are no words to explain this....Purgatory?
Just blow it up again...
I knew this was going to happen.

I would give my soul for a winning season.

Chubb for 1

I said we needed 5 more field goals to win lol

Originally Posted By: EveDawg

If this guy at the bar could stop touching me that would be great.

The way this game is going, I'm surprised you didn't bust a beer bottle on his head.

4 and 12

Now he wants to run Chubb... wow

They just played that Kitchens soundbite

" if you don't wear brown and orange you don't matter"

I'm thinking, maybe we can find him some clothes of a different color,

Hey wait a second, "that's it!"
All the sideline staff is wearing camoflauge today.

4th down ... Grimm reaper is calling

Next year...new unis, new staff just clean it out.

Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist

Unprepared.

This is on the coach. Let’s not ever have Dorsey pick a coach again. Stick to evaluating players.

Well who in the hell is going to hire a coach? Jimmy? I mean, if the freaking GM can't hire the right guy there is ZERO chance this team will EVER go near the playoffs. EVER.

Originally Posted By: THROW LONG

They just played that Kitchens soundbite

" if you don't wear brown and orange you don't matter"

I'm thinking, maybe we can find him some clothes of a different color,

Hey wait a second, "that's it!"
All the sideline staff is wearing camoflauge today.

If you don't wear gold and clownface, you don't matter.

Getting blown out by a backup no no exp, Freddie can't dance around this one

I don't get why Higgins is not playing. It makes no sense to me whatsoever.

Blow this team up now!

We are getting owned by a QB that hasn't played in over 1000 days.

Thats it, the LSU/Alabama game is affecting Freddies play calling

Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan

I don't get why Higgins is not playing. It makes no sense to me whatsoever.

I wonder this is as well

Originally Posted By: cfrs15

We are getting owned by a QB that hasn't played in over 1000 days.

Never taken a regular season game snap... ever.

Lose bills lose both to pitt lose to Arz lose to balt split with cinn thats about it

not good

I don't understand why we don't run more short crossing routes with picks and real WR screens.

Baker would benefit from it greatly and it would help build his confidence back up.

Originally Posted By: cfrs15

We are getting owned by a QB that hasn't played in over 1000 days.

I asked you last week if Allen was gonna get his first W.

I regret asking.

Originally Posted By: jfanent

Originally Posted By: EveDawg

If this guy at the bar could stop touching me that would be great.

The way this game is going, I'm surprised you didn't bust a beer bottle on his head.

Now that would be a sight!

If they don't fire Kitchens after having Chubb on the sidelines on 3rd and 4th down inside the 5 I don't what it will take

Anybody else sick of the JJ Watt you swing a mean net commercial?

all chubb only stud we have

Chubb is the only one trying

that was ALL ON CHUBB....

Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg

Originally Posted By: cfrs15

We are getting owned by a QB that hasn't played in over 1000 days.

Never taken a regular season game snap... ever.

We would lose to the replacements. Keanu Reeves would kick out butts.

Chubb did it himself

Originally Posted By: jfanent

Anybody else sick of the JJ Watt you swing a mean net commercial?

Nope, considering theres 34 Baker mayfield commercials on constant loop lol

Freddie loves to run down multiple scores

Originally Posted By: Swish

Chubb is the only one trying

Gotta give Chubb, Man of the Year.

Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg

Originally Posted By: cfrs15

We are getting owned by a QB that hasn't played in over 1000 days.

Never taken a regular season game snap... ever.

I called it at the start of the game.

What terrible stats baker wow

Nice snag

He’d have scored with his own shoes on.

at the least lets get chubb his 100 yrds

Chubb. Just feed him

I love Nick Chubb.

Chubb refuse to lose

Way to try chubb

Chubb needs be charging nickels for these rides

That’s character

CHUBB IS FOR REAL.. We need 52 of folka like CHUBB

why bother with him

Please no more hilliard

Freddie was saving Chubb's legs for the 4th quarter down by 12 comeback... brilliant.

Only dorsey pick to pan out

Love chubb

Trade Chubb. Doesnt deserve this team.

We're going to have one more win than the Dolphins.

I'm pretty sure wilks is the only guy in the nfl that runs 4-2-5 defense. Its terrible against the run

Keep Hilliard out of there

Missed the block bitonio

Baker is the worst screen thrower I’ve ever seen

Burn em all

Wasting TO’s like usual

Five yards or a timeout?

The eternal question.

We waste TOs like such fools

That Hillyard guy though...

oh hey---

our players are starting to play.

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Missed the block bitonio

Whiffer.

Flag gotta be

Hilliard pass blocking has gotten better

Gotta get 7

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Gotta get 7

I'd prefer eight.

Originally Posted By: tastybrownies

Blow this team up now!

They may just be a Duke Johnson, a Jabrill Peppers,
a Jamie Collins, a Tramon Williams,

sigh,

a, maybe even a Seth DeValve, a Danny Shelton, a Trevon Coley,

an Emmanuel Ogbah, a (Ogbahs friend)

A Rashard Higgans,
A (that other practice squad guy who got cut for Ratley )
and a Brehsard Perriman away from being in playoff contention!

Kinda surprised they didn't call OPI on OBJ ... just because.

TD - Landry!

Finally

There we go!

Originally Posted By: cfrs15

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Gotta get 7

I'd prefer eight.

that's what Eve said.

TD landry .. good move

TD Landry!

Too bad d cant stop anybody

Finally a TD

Why is this hodge guy getting more reps than higgins?

Landry can wear what ever shoes he likes... but then again.. 1st and goal pass??

Finally someone wearing Brown and Orange, on the Redzone Channel not named Siefert!

TOUCHDOWN BROWNS!!!!

Needed that

PHEW

Stoink on the XP, but good.

Great got a TD vs a 2 and 6 team , great job fellas

24-19

nice effort by everyone that drive

Originally Posted By: THROW LONG

Originally Posted By: tastybrownies

Blow this team up now!

They may just be a Duke Johnson, a Jabrill Peppers,
a Jamie Collins, a Tramon Williams,

sigh,

a, maybe even a Seth DeValve, a Danny Shelton, a Trevon Coley,

an Emmanuel Ogbah, a (Ogbahs friend)

A Rashard Higgans,
A (that other practice squad guy who got cut for Ratley )
and a Brehsard Perriman away from being in playoff contention!

Dont forget tayshaun gibson and jordan poyer...gosh wish we had safeties

Come on DEFENSE!!!!

Watch em win it...

Defense needs to PLAY this time. High pressure.

why not just Higgy at deadline any pick better than nothing

Originally Posted By: tru_dawgs

Originally Posted By: THROW LONG

Originally Posted By: tastybrownies

Blow this team up now!

They may just be a Duke Johnson, a Jabrill Peppers,
a Jamie Collins, a Tramon Williams,

sigh,

a, maybe even a Seth DeValve, a Danny Shelton, a Trevon Coley,

an Emmanuel Ogbah, a (Ogbahs friend)

A Rashard Higgans,
A (that other practice squad guy who got cut for Ratley )
and a Brehsard Perriman away from being in playoff contention!

Dont forget tayshaun gibson and jordan poyer...gosh wish we had safeties

What happened to coley? Did we trade him?

The music in these commercials...

Originally Posted By: slick

Originally Posted By: tru_dawgs

Originally Posted By: THROW LONG

Originally Posted By: tastybrownies

Blow this team up now!

They may just be a Duke Johnson, a Jabrill Peppers,
a Jamie Collins, a Tramon Williams,

sigh,

a, maybe even a Seth DeValve, a Danny Shelton, a Trevon Coley,

an Emmanuel Ogbah, a (Ogbahs friend)

A Rashard Higgans,
A (that other practice squad guy who got cut for Ratley )
and a Brehsard Perriman away from being in playoff contention!

Dont forget tayshaun gibson and jordan poyer...gosh wish we had safeties

What happened to coley? Did we trade him?

Cut.

If we win, still Fire Freddie?

Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg

Defense needs to PLAY this time. High pressure.

Now watch Allen go right down the field

Originally Posted By: slick

Originally Posted By: tru_dawgs

Originally Posted By: THROW LONG

Originally Posted By: tastybrownies

Blow this team up now!

They may just be a Duke Johnson, a Jabrill Peppers,
a Jamie Collins, a Tramon Williams,

sigh,

a, maybe even a Seth DeValve, a Danny Shelton, a Trevon Coley,

an Emmanuel Ogbah, a (Ogbahs friend)

A Rashard Higgans,
A (that other practice squad guy who got cut for Ratley )
and a Brehsard Perriman away from being in playoff contention!

Dont forget tayshaun gibson and jordan poyer...gosh wish we had safeties

What happened to coley? Did we trade him?

He was cut when we claimed a different DL, after the final rosters were set.

whiffffffffffffffff

Originally Posted By: Jcamm

Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg

Defense needs to PLAY this time. High pressure.

Now watch Allen go right down the field

Should we expect anything else?

Originally Posted By: tru_dawgs

Originally Posted By: THROW LONG

Originally Posted By: tastybrownies

Blow this team up now!

They may just be a Duke Johnson, a Jabrill Peppers,
a Jamie Collins, a Tramon Williams,

sigh,

a, maybe even a Seth DeValve, a Danny Shelton, a Trevon Coley,

an Emmanuel Ogbah, a (Ogbahs friend)

A Rashard Higgans,
A (that other practice squad guy who got cut for Ratley )
and a Brehsard Perriman away from being in playoff contention!

Dont forget tayshaun gibson and jordan poyer...gosh wish we had safeties

heck, we could use Fells right now. he has been lighting it up in Houston

Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist

If we win, still Fire Freddie?

Yes.

Defense isn’t going to let us come back.

Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist

If we win, still Fire Freddie?

Probably should. He’s terrible.

But probably as long as he keeps winning should stay

Boom - Mack Wilson!

Nice stop Wilson.

Roughing the passer

Bahahahahaha

figures

He hit the QB in the head.

I KNEW we would get a penalty there.

Fixed!

UNREAL

This team can’t get out of its own way

You have to be kidding me

Wow

yea well i guess so

It’s so freaking bad

Getting screwed big time IMO

make up call

typical Browns

that flag was super late.

They waited till we were halfway off the field to call it

So they throw a flag 10 seconds after the play ends?

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Getting screwed big time IMO

He hit him in the head! That's a penalty!

Flag was so late

Make up Call

I hate NFL refs!

Seriously, these guys suck at their jobs worse than weathermen.

Those are really crap penalties. He rubbed his face mask. That is overprotecting.

It sucks cause the flag came late but they always call those so....

oh it's 4th down?

well we can just throw a flag and Denver will get a 1st down.

Makeup

THE MEMO IS OUT! Don't let the Browns get momentum in the 4th quarter!

this is the 3rd game! Where a drive, either offensive or defensive has been

G I V E N to the opponent!

period.

I’ve had enough of Whitehead

This defense is horrible

We haven’t even tried to confuse the qb. Wilkes is horrible

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Makeup

Makeup calls don’t make it 4th down.

OMG... please take 35 out

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

I’ve had enough of Whitehead

We all have.

Thank the lord it's not on us

that was a penalty on Richardson.

Flag

Lol

Vince McMahon bought the league. A joke.

Yeah, I was gonna say the OL flinched.

This passive D...

Do we ever blitz?

BLITZ THE DAMN QB

who wants it less

A stop is a must

Originally Posted By: tastybrownies

Do we ever blitz?

So you just turned the game on?

I thought they let the play go if on the D

race to the bottom

Originally Posted By: tru_dawgs

Thank the lord it's not on us

Just prolonging the inevitable

flag

Just let the first time QB pick us apart while we give him the whole field to work with

So much time ...and a flag

I thought that was on us

I hate Wilkes. Any decent dc blitzes a rookie qb to death

flag on ST coming

Good coverage by Mack, he watched the QB

these guys are so hard to root for

"Hillyard"

Pollitical cartoon!

The side judge is dumping a garbage trucks load on the isle of optimism,

and Freddie is unsuccessfully protesting to the head official about the garbage.

This is the drive we need

Esisias was like ummm 4 man rush? LOL

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

I hate Wilkes.

I think you hate life.

If we win I will never have felt so sick about a win

Originally Posted By: Jcamm

these guys are so hard to root for

I don’t agree.

They’re easy to root for, they just don’t give you as many opportunities.

Originally Posted By: Jcamm

If we win I will never have felt so sick about a win

Don’t think you’ll have to worry about that

Originally Posted By: Jcamm

If we win I will never have felt so sick about a win

I would feel better about this win than the Jet win.

Don't worry though, we'll lose.

Originally Posted By: Jcamm

If we win I will never have felt so sick about a win

This is like the Buffalo game in 2009.

Originally Posted By: Jcamm

If we win I will never have felt so sick about a win

I don't mind feeling icky and winning.

Everything’s available for us ... we can run, pass, PA, huddle, etc

This 4-2-5 defense is crap

I really hate those Charmin commercials.

Fred will find a way

Baker can grow up right here

Originally Posted By: slick

This 4-2-5 defense is crap

We've had three linebackers on the field more this game than any other this season.

Originally Posted By: slick

This 4-2-5 defense is crap

We seem to have run a lot of 4-3 today.

Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan

I really hate those Charmin commercials.

Insulting. I'd wipe with an oak leaf before buying charmin.

Yeah, I’ve seen 3 LBs a lot

Do or die, time to show us what you got.

Running from the gun

This won't matter they already put the Memo out,

they took the Browns stop of the Broncos away with a bull roughing the passer call,

if the Browns show promise, the Refs will find some excuse to ruin this drive.

PERIOD!

Yeah added a LB today (taylor) to compensate for the lack of available FS

Okay good play ,, but a flag

No flag okay

The Donks run D is pretty solid.

Well, we’re putting a lot of eggs into this drive

Originally Posted By: Tulsa

The Donks run D is pretty solid.

Their pass D is actually better than their run D this year.

Good play chubb

OBJ

Wow!

PHEW obj

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

No flag okay

They threw it just in case he broke that tackle.

Man oh man

Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan

Originally Posted By: Tulsa

The Donks run D is pretty solid.

Their pass D is actually better than their run D this year.

I can only hope if fails the rest of the game.

Originally Posted By: 1oldMutt

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

No flag okay

They threw it just in case he broke that tackle.

sad but true

OL caved there

Obj has to stay the focus other than chubb

OBJ just saved Freddie’s job for another week.

Good run

no facemask

Get a 1st

obj is just so good.

I guess a facemask isn't a penalty anymore.

Right down to the wire.

Timeout on the field

I know.. right in front of the Ref and just watched it.

facemask?

Originally Posted By: jfanent

I guess a facemask isn't a penalty anymore.

I thought that the defender got his facemask.

no chance

STARting to look better here

WTF IS THAT PLY

Oh look predicable playcalling

That’s just too slow

Go for it

We just are snake bit

Wow. Idiot

Lol just burned last timeout

Welp, last TO ... this is the game now

Wow. If we would’ve kicked the FG in the 3rd quarter instead of going for it. We could’ve been kicking a FG for the lead.

this team

Imploding

Gotta get the plays in quicker.

Freddy gonna make a stupid call... watch

Guarantee we are going to need those timeouts we are handing out like candy

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

Oh look predicable playcalling

Oh look, predicable posting.

What are we doing

supposed to dive if not blocked

terrible. run it to the side where your new OL comes in.

Should have kicked a fg and kept the timeout!

Originally Posted By: Tulsa

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

Oh look predicable playcalling

Oh look, predicable posting.

no chance

Game

Should have fing kicked the damn ball

we would be winning with a FG right now had we not gone for it earlier

Losers

One read Baker

Yikes we are horrible with the clock management and time outs!

Baker seriously cannot make a read past his first. It’s killed us all season

OBJ was open ... we’ve pissed away another one

Told you and Baker MISSED OBJ because he never looked over there

TIMBER

Originally Posted By: superbowldogg

we would be winning with a FG right now had we not gone for it earlier

And people would be complaining about having so many FGs.

Its over....season over.....AHAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH...NO NORE NO NORE....NO NORE. B[soooooooo. Booooo. I cant stand it anymore!!!!! Ahhh. $*@^$&#,#,,@;#&^#&#&#

Wow. This is thing nobody talks about. Baker is not giving his guys a chance or reading the field. Obj had his guy burnt

seriously Landry dropped that... smh

Originally Posted By: DogNDC

Told you and Baker MISSED OBJ because he never looked over there

One read ball gone

Bye bye Freddie!!!!

Touchdown Beckham

Originally Posted By: superbowldogg

we would be winning with a FG right now had we not gone for it earlier

That's tough. You have to coach for the situation you are in not the situation you might be in later. Going for it was the right call at the time.

Best thing that can happen is to lose out..which we might anyways. Allow us to be in positio. To draft a qb and for sure a new coach

Mayfield could be a fraud...

Welp, 2-6 and dead in the water

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

OBJ was open ... we’ve pissed away another one

No he wasn't.

i like taking what is giving. not sure how much landry was open

Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan

Originally Posted By: superbowldogg

we would be winning with a FG right now had we not gone for it earlier

And people would be complaining about having so many FGs.

No.

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

Baker seriously cannot make a read past his first. It’s killed us all season

This is why Mayfield is NOT Our QB.

Why is Chubb not in on that play to keep
the D honest?

OBJ was open Eve

Originally Posted By: lionchamp29

i like taking what is giving. not sure how much landry was open

Landry dropped it.
he had the frist down

OBJ

I’m not sure we can evaluate Baker with this awful scheme.

Originally Posted By: EveDawg

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

OBJ was open ... we’ve pissed away another one

No he wasn't.

Absolutely was. Had two steps on harris

I’m not a Fire the coach kinda guy but Kitchens is atrocious.

Make any of our coordinators the interim coach.

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

OBJ was open Eve

not really

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Welp, 2-6 and dead in the water

One more win than the Dolphins.

OBJ was right

Cant take it anymore cant take it anymore......just cant take it anymore

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

Originally Posted By: EveDawg

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

OBJ was open ... we’ve pissed away another one

No he wasn't.

Absolutely was. Had two steps on harris

Agreed. He was certainly more open than the double covered Landry.

Dunno what’s wrong with Baker but it’s depressing

Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist

I’m not sure we can evaluate Baker with this awful scheme.

Regardless he's still throwing short, long or high. 8 straight games struggling is not good.

The dolphins will beat us. Watch.

OBJ is pissed!

Baker is gun shy because of all the picks. He’s broken

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

OBJ was open Eve

He was not open. At all. The CB was on him.

Originally Posted By: cfrs15

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Welp, 2-6 and dead in the water

One more win than the Dolphins.

This week.

obj is trying to keep his composure, me thinks.

No it was knocked away

And no time outs because Kitchens still doesn't have a clue about game management

Baker simply doesn’t understand what nfl throwing windows look like

Originally Posted By: EveDawg

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

OBJ was open Eve

He was not open. At all. The CB was on him.

Landry had two guys on him.

Implosion pending

Originally Posted By: EveDawg

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

OBJ was open Eve

He was not open. At all. The CB was on him.

i thought he was open too, so did the announcers.

So who gets fired?

Game. Set. Match.

We had no chance at stopping that.

Originally Posted By: 3rd_and_20

obj is trying to keep his composure, me thinks.

he's going to lose it

Totally out coached and out classed

This team is garbage.

As much as I’m positive kitchens and baker ain’t the guy, I’m equally positive dorsey isn’t either

Originally Posted By: cfrs15

Originally Posted By: EveDawg

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

OBJ was open Eve

He was not open. At all. The CB was on him.

Landry had two guys on him.

That doesn't make OBJ more open lol

Vernon done.

Originally Posted By: tastybrownies

So who gets fired?

Should be a parade out the door

Now Vernon lost for the season.....

Beckham will be dealt in the off season

Originally Posted By: cfrs15

Originally Posted By: EveDawg

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

OBJ was open Eve

He was not open. At all. The CB was on him.

Landry had two guys on him.

and it hit him in the and he dropped it

he would have had the first down.

Originally Posted By: tastybrownies

So who gets fired?

Nobody....these are Dorsey's coaches so he will give most of them another season...

Where's all the Kitchen lovers now ?

hopefully Vernon just had the wind knocked out of him.

Originally Posted By: slick

Now Vernon lost for the season.....

And we traded Avery.

ALL, OBJ WAS OPEN... He had a step and a half on his DB... all Baker had to do is scan the field, make the throw... He MISSED!!.. Baker did not see OBJ and then tried to FORCE to Landry

Originally Posted By: tastybrownies

So who gets fired?

Freddie kitchens

Originally Posted By: Iluvmyxstripper

Where's all the Kitchen lovers now ?

out to dinner

Hope coaches are all fired tomorrow.

Originally Posted By: slick

Originally Posted By: tastybrownies

So who gets fired?

Nobody....these are Dorsey's coaches so he will give most of them another season...

You've got to be kidding me. This is an embarrassment.

Originally Posted By: Iluvmyxstripper

Beckham will be dealt in the off season

Which will piss off Landry who will then demand a trade

You can see OBJ is FUMING mad on the sidelines.

We’re going to have to bench Mayfield or risk losing the locker room. QB is the reason we lost this game, he’ll it’s the reason for 5 out of our 6 losses and yes Garret Gilbert is a better option right now than Mayfield. The kid is hungry and will be a breath of fresh air, the spark this team needs

Mayfield needs to sit for awhile we’re doing more harm than good by keeping him out there. Sometimes you just gotta take a step away and re evaluate.

Originally Posted By: Iluvmyxstripper

Where's all the Kitchen lovers now ?

In the Landry, doing their clothes.

At least the touchy feely guy left the bar.

Originally Posted By: Iluvmyxstripper

Beckham will be dealt in the off season

I could see that happening.

Originally Posted By: tastybrownies

Originally Posted By: slick

Originally Posted By: tastybrownies

So who gets fired?

Nobody....these are Dorsey's coaches so he will give most of them another season...

You've got to be kidding me. This is an embarrassment.

Freddie has to go. we are basically eliminated from the playoffs with this loss today.

If we deal Beckham were stupid he isn’t the problem here he has no one who can throw a catchable ball

WHELP!

I don't know what he has to do, but Dorsey has to do something after this game. Fire Freddie, bench Baker, something has to change.

I wanted Zimmer before Hue was hired...and then wanted Gregg William's rehired this offseason...but it really doesnt matter...

This team is a mess

Originally Posted By: Dawg Citizen

Originally Posted By: Iluvmyxstripper

Beckham will be dealt in the off season

I could see that happening.

Don't think so, talent is not the problem with this team.

Einstein could not even fathom the mathematical improbabilities of the Browns woes.

Originally Posted By: EveDawg

Hope coaches are all fired tomorrow.

Will probably happen at end of season.

Originally Posted By: EveDawg

At least the touchy feely guy left the bar.

Did you lose your boot in his arse?

Originally Posted By: Dawg Citizen

Originally Posted By: Iluvmyxstripper

Beckham will be dealt in the off season

I could see that happening.

nah I think he will be fine. we will have a new HC

Dorsey should fire Kitchens but can't because he hired him.

Their defense was better than our offense.

This game really bummed me out, but whatever.

The Parade of Disaster continues.

Originally Posted By: cfrs15

That's open. It's really open if you're OBJ.

A first week starter beats us. This is jus so sad.

WELL!

SPIN THIS?

Public relations guys, Poly Sci

Spin this

2-6 and lost to Josh "allen.

Originally Posted By: SuperBrown

Dorsey should fire Kitchens but can't because he hired him.

There's gonna be some stories come out of this regime...

Originally Posted By: redddog

The dolphins will beat us. Watch.

Well look on the bright side, we'll have another top 5 draft pick in 20.

Originally Posted By: Knight_Of_Brown

If we deal Beckham were stupid he isn’t the problem here he has no one who can throw a catchable ball

Baker can he needs a new coach and an offseason.

We will be just fine next year with the right HC

Originally Posted By: THROW LONG

WELL!

SPIN THIS?

We need a washing machine to spin this crap.

except as soon as you see OBJ get a step on him he slows down, meaning the ball was in the air by the that point.

Originally Posted By: SuperBrown

Dorsey should fire Kitchens but can't because he hired him.

Dorsey has no problem trading his bust picks something tells me he would have no problem firing Freddy.

Originally Posted By: superbowldogg

Originally Posted By: Iluvmyxstripper

Where's all the Kitchen lovers now ?

out to dinner

Well that's appropriate since they love a fat clown.

Originally Posted By: superbowldogg

Originally Posted By: SuperBrown

Dorsey should fire Kitchens but can't because he hired him.

Dorsey has no problem trading his bust picks something tells me he would have no problem firing Freddy.

And it should be tonight.

Originally Posted By: The Beast

Originally Posted By: superbowldogg

Originally Posted By: Iluvmyxstripper

Where's all the Kitchen lovers now ?

out to dinner

Well that's appropriate since they love a fat clown.

I think Beckham gets dealt for a draft pick
Landry was rumored to be gone after the season

Once again we under use Chubb
Freddie????

Originally Posted By: superbowldogg

Originally Posted By: SuperBrown

Dorsey should fire Kitchens but can't because he hired him.

Dorsey has no problem trading his bust picks something tells me he would have no problem firing Freddy.

If he did, it would just show how FOOLISH HIS HIRE WAS SO HE WON'T...Get it??

Originally Posted By: 1oldMutt

Originally Posted By: superbowldogg

Originally Posted By: SuperBrown

Dorsey should fire Kitchens but can't because he hired him.

Dorsey has no problem trading his bust picks something tells me he would have no problem firing Freddy.

And it should be tonight.

It's not gonna happen

Kitchens should be fired before the flight lands in Cleveland

So much for the theory about the easy part of our schedule.

Franchise is done.

I wonder which city they’ll move us to.

Originally Posted By: SuperBrown

Originally Posted By: superbowldogg

Originally Posted By: SuperBrown

Dorsey should fire Kitchens but can't because he hired him.

Dorsey has no problem trading his bust picks something tells me he would have no problem firing Freddy.

If he did, it would just show how FOOLISH HIS HIRE WAS SO HE WON'T...Get it??

meh. I don' think he cares about that. he seems to move on from his mistakes rather quickly

IMO, this game was lost by Jermaine Whitehead. The dude stinks. Every game he gives up a big play with a poor attempt at tackling.

This group of players stink. They will not win six games, and no way they beat Pittsburgh even once.

Odell is pissed and the turmoil in the locker room will begin this week.

Season officially over...Week 8.

Dorsey hired him so he does not want to make that admission of mistake... That is the problem.. we will go 5-11 and everyone will be talking about OBJ but Freddy and Baker are the problem... that along with a revamped Oline...

Originally Posted By: THROW LONG

WELL!

SPIN THIS?

Public relations guys, Poly Sci

Spin this

2-6 and lost to Josh "allen.

"Well, we gotta get better execution in the red zone. We gotta tackle better. We need to increase our focus. I have to call better plays."

Does that about sum it up?

Originally Posted By: Steubenvillian

IMO, this game was lost by Jermaine Whitehead. The dude stinks. Every game he gives up a big play with a poor attempt at tackling.

This group of players stink. They will not win six games, and no way they beat Pittsburgh even once.

Odell is pissed and the turmoil in the locker room will begin this week.

Agreed.

Only way to save this franchise is fire Kitchens tonight. Admit we made a mistake and move on.

I’m not watching another game this season with this same coach. It’s too painful.

Originally Posted By: EveDawg

Hope coaches are all fired tomorrow.

Folks.

EveDawg is usually not a reactionary poster, if She's posting this it holds weight.

It's just not a good day.

Originally Posted By: superbowldogg

Originally Posted By: Dawg Citizen

Originally Posted By: Iluvmyxstripper

Beckham will be dealt in the off season

I could see that happening.

nah I think he will be fine. we will have a new HC

Yes we will have a new HC but Dorsey may try and deal Beckham. I hope you are right.

It is time to get the attention of the locker room. Fire Freddie. Cut Whitehead. Next player to run out in clown shoes is fined a game check and may be inactive until he gets with the program. Fun time is over kids. This is the NFL which means not for long if you keep sucking. SMH

Why Deal OBJ?? It aint his fault that Baker can only read 1 side of a play. Or does OBJ need to block for the oline?? Or maybe OBJ should draw up plays because Freddy dont know how to use him!!!

OBJ is an excuse for the failings of Baker and Freddy!!

I think Dorsey will see that promoting Kitchens to HC was a mistake and fire him at the end of the season. Dorsey has built winning teams in GB and KC and I still believe he will built a winner in Cleveland. Just might not happen overnight like I hoped it would.

I like how everyone thinks Dorsey is safe if this season goes to pot. Dorsey is more responsible for this mess than anyone. He is the one who traded our best OL, brought in Vernon who has done nothing, and traded for OBJ, all moves that look god awful

I think Dorsey is tied to Kitchens. It was Dorsey who flexed his muscles and convinced Haslam to hire Kitchens instead of Williams, Dorsey is just as much on the hot seat as Kitchens and if he isn’t Haslam is a twit and a sucker.

Originally Posted By: DogNDC

OBJ is an excuse for the failings of Baker and Freddy!!

Agreed. OBJ has not been the problem. He is not in the top five in the power rankings of our problems.

Originally Posted By: Knight_Of_Brown

I like how everyone thinks Dorsey is safe if this season goes to pot. Dorsey is more responsible for this mess than anyone. He is the one who traded our best OL, brought in Vernon who has done nothing, and traded for OBJ, all moves that look god awful

I think Dorsey is tied to Kitchens. It was Dorsey who flexed his muscles and convinced Haslam to hire Kitchens instead of Williams, Dorsey is just as much on the hot seat as Kitchens and if he isn’t Haslam is a twit and a sucker.

Dorsey is so safe he could literally go full-on pee guy on Haslam's desk and not be fired

Originally Posted By: DogNDC

Why Deal OBJ?? It aint his fault that Baker can only read 1 side of a play. Or does OBJ need to block for the oline?? Or maybe OBJ should draw up plays because Freddy dont know how to use him!!!

OBJ is an excuse for the failings of Baker and Freddy!!

OBJ may ask to be dealt. Baker is trying to do too much. I think a better HC will help Baker. I wouldn't give up on him just yet.

Originally Posted By: Knight_Of_Brown

I like how everyone thinks Dorsey is safe if this season goes to pot. Dorsey is more responsible for this mess than anyone. He is the one who traded our best OL, brought in Vernon who has done nothing, and traded for OBJ, all moves that look god awful

I think Dorsey is tied to Kitchens. It was Dorsey who flexed his muscles and convinced Haslam to hire Kitchens instead of Williams, Dorsey is just as much on the hot seat as Kitchens and if he isn’t Haslam is a twit and a sucker.

I really hope Haslam doesn't fire Dorsey. I don't want to go through yet another regime change. Give Dorsey time.

I'm not ready to give up on Dorsey, but close.

I think we are relentlessly ruining a number of things that I thought would be better. Proving me wrong week after week. Our D got run over, our offense was owned, Chubb is stopping on his runs almost every time. Lots to fix, and FK seems part of the problem while the solutions don't seem to be part of him.

Have coaches grade each other this week. Some folks refuse to change at all, and refuse to acknowledge how crappy of as job they are doing. Get an OC for in game. Our game plan wasn't good enough obviously.