I love this.

Will the NFL consider this with Garrett's reinstatement?

I don't.

At the rate Freddie puts nails in his coffin it's as if he's using a nail gun.

I hope this is photoshopped. If not, this isn't the action of a mature head coach, especially heading into the week you're playing that team.

It’s not photoshopped. He said his daughter bought him the shirt as a joke.

From the head coach on down to the 53rd player, is there an adult anywhere in the room?

Not where you'd expect, at least

So of course it made it to espn and the Browns had to come out say something about it.

How can the players respect Freddie's messages when he doesn't exhibit those behaviors himself? Watches, cleats, taunting penalties, t-shirts...it's always something.

So disappointing.

I don't see what the big problem is. The head coach sticks up for his team, I like it. Also, it is not like he was flaunting it, in the picture it is covered by his jacket. It's not like he wore it to a press conference. The media will play it up as usual, and fans like yourself will overreact.

As far as this giving Pittsburgh extra juice, I believe they already are fired up for this game. How is this any worse than Tomlin saying his team did nothing to start the fight?

If it's not a big problem, why did the Browns come out and say something?

It's not an overreaction. It's continued evidence of why this team is not successful.

I am with Rishuz on this. Fans wearing this shirt is one thing, the coach in his own home is also fine. But, once he dons it outside of his house and is seen by the public wearing it it sends a message of unprofessionalism. A coach should place him or herself above matters like this.

That said...I'm not going to lose sleep over it, but it's another look that Freddie choosing to wear this in public is evidence that he doesn't hold his players accountable and that discipline & professionalism is definitely being challenged in this locker room. The irony is that those who were anti-Gregg's promotion due to his bounty gate and reputation are fiercely defending Freddie (note: I WAS NOT a Gregg supporter, but I read that argument against him in this forum).

But, this is also the media stirring things up (just look at the coverage map and the sea of red across the country that are broadcasting our game...as with watching the Indy 500....people are hoping for more high jinx drama). If we win and there's no major issues all of this will be a mute point so....I guess it is what it is.

Gregg Williams being a super douche has nothing to do with this. Apples and oranges.

Win the game and no one cares. Some will even like it more.

If we win, nobody will care at all.

If we lose, everyone will hate him again.

Me too! I have two or three different T-shirts from that site.

This is so lame.

Damn it was a joke from his daughter.

If this locker room material they have issues. Silly.

Nothing burger.

Completely disagree.

It's no different than situational awareness like you expect on the field.

If Freddie weren't the coach anymore and the incident was years in the rear view, then yeah I'd say no big deal. You have an incident that is very fresh, very dramatic, and very inciteful and you're just adding fuel to the fire. And oh yeah, you're playing that team again in a day or two.

It is no surprise at all this team is 4-6.

*5-6.

It's no surprise at all this team is 5-6.

Really?

So professional players need more motivation outside of playing for a playoff spot?

And some silly t-shirt is going to someone add to what has already happened?

And then that is going to give them a competitive advantage?

Really?

And it is going to last all game? That they are going to have this extra motivation?

If that determines this game we don't need to watch.

I prefer the coach to be more professional, and for the players to have the personality.

But, I wont complain about this because Tomlinson did the whole yawning thing when asked about playing us, AND NOT A SINGLE PERSON COMPLAINED.

So, rock on Freddie.

Oh God, we're going to lose now Freddie wore a T-shirt

It's not the action of wearing a T-shirt. It's that wearing the T-shirt is a symptom. Again, it's no surprise we have a losing record.

And who cares about Tomlin? He's not the coach of the Browns.

I'm all for becoming the bullies against the Steelers. Do it on the field.

No offense really.

But I think you are reading way to much into this.

His daughter gets the t-shirt for a joke and he goes to a movie wearing it with his daughter.

And this is somehow a symptom of something?

If Freddie is bad head coach I doubt that this sort of thing is part of it.

It's a symptom of poor judgment.

Have you seen the coach or team exhibit poor judgment this year?

I see poor judgement all the time throughout the league.

I just don't think this a big deal at all.

I think people too uptight about this. It’s funny. People will always find something to be offended by if they are looking for it

It’s not like the t-shirt is inaccurate.

This is less of a deal than Baker responding to Duke requesting a trade .... move on.

I think he should wear it on the field Sunday.

j/c...

LOVE THIS. Just had dinner with my brother and father, both of whom are diehard Steelers fans. They think Myles should be gone for half the season next year and Rudolph is clean as a whistle (they also think he sucks though and they are glad he isn't playing tomorrow). But really... screw the Steelers. My father lives here in the Cleveland area but is originally from Pittsburgh area. He used to say that he "likes the Browns too" but you can't have it both ways, man. He liked the Browns when they gave up two easy wins. I remember all the crap I had to take when the Steelers crushed the Browns on Christmas Eve one year... it may not have anything to do with this exact situation, but screw the Steelers. I'd so much rather see this than that LAME apology the organization issued to the Steelers the day after the last Pittsburgh game.

Personally I think Freddie showed poor leadership by wearing that in public... but I would sport that shirt as a fan with no issue. And I agree that Freddie isn't the brightest bulb in the box.

I don’t like the optics. He’s an NFL coach - he should act like one.

I freaking love this and I could not care less about how the outside world feels about it.

Lol this is all so trite

j/c

We've just won three straight games and all people can do is whine about a stupid T-shirt? Where the hell did these "fans" come from?

Really a effing t-shirt.

Who cares? Let's get it on.

LET'S GET READY TO RUMBLE!!!!

That's a player? He looks like he is about to rob a bank.

That's Mason Rudolph! I can tell by the horse mouth.

Hiding his face, real interesting

Free Pouncy is the best they could come up with?

Yes, and probably.

Freddie needed to win this game. I wouldn’t care if he is gone. He can’t get it done.

and Pittsburgh finished it.

Freddie lost to a third string QB (again) without any supporting cast.

Could be my prom date. Need a corsage to be sure . .. .

pittsburgh started it, and then they finished it.

They out-shirted us...

Steelers blast Freddie Kitchens for controversial shirt

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28206183/steelers-blast-freddie-kitchens-controversial-shirt

people can claim that stuff like this shouldnt matter.....but it DOES matter, regardless.

yes, players are already 100% motivated, but you dont turbo boost that motivation by giving them free bulletin board material.

FIRE FREDDIE ... he’s had 12 games now .... he needs to go ...

i agree.

got whooped by the titans in our home opener.

looked like trash in a winnable game against the rams.

had the lead against the seahawks and blew it.

got beat by a no name QB for the broncos who never threw a pass in a regular season nfl game in 3 years.

then got beat by ANOTHER no name QB for pittsburgh who's missing a bunch of starters on offense.

yea, 12 games and i have seen enough.

I don't really have a problem with this.. but if you are going to create stupid little distractions, then you damn sure better show up to play... and we didn't... so stuff like this just ends up looking stupid.

Stop drawing outside attention to the Browns, stop the off-field stuff, stop giving days off for beating the freaking Dolphins... and go win some damn games.

No reason for it. Bag judgment on FK's part.

Give me one reason other than continuity Freddie should stay?

I"m sure even without the mask you'd think that.

Freddie's kids bought him the shirt. He was taking them to a movie and they asked him to wear it. He had a jacket over it, and someone on social media noticed it and posted a picture. I'm sure he wasn't expecting people to see it outside of his kids.

I guess Tomlin acting like he was yawning when asked about Odell and Jarvis is a classy move.

Haters going to hate.

the kids bought him a shirt..cool going to a movie with your kids cool


But doing all of this right before going into Heinz field to help knock them out of a play-off spot..helping get your team into a play-off spot and sweeping a rivalry that hasn't happened since 1988...giving your players 2 days off ..

That's just not a cool message to send...I'm sorry but it's football season..time to practice and time to study film..

Go to the movies on the bye week or off season...great coaches never done this stupid [censored]...

Personally I’d only give continuity half credit. Continuity is more than simply having the same people in the room. It’s about what you are doing with those people. So if they are going to go that route I’d like to know what it is that we are continuing.

Yep. Hue went downhill from 1-15. If Freddy loses this team and we finish with more embarrassing losses and more off the field shenanigans, he's got to go. I can't imagine anything worse than watching the current carnival continue and starting off next season with much of the same. Hopefully FK has learned something and finishes strong, with a little momentum going into next year...and we can avoid another coaching change.

For the most part I think the fans like Freddie. I feel the players like Freddie but I don't think they fear him and there seems to be a lack of respect for him. If it wasn't that way the team wouldn't be playing the way they are with no discipline, lack of urgency and concentration. I hate to see another coaching change but we need a HC here that can fix these problems. AT this time Freddie is not a good HC. He may develop into a good one down the road but right now he is more of an OC or position coach.

I get that, I really do. But at some point 12 games in, Freddie has not changed. He refuses to admit mistakes, he refuses to fix those mistakes.

"We need to run the ball in those situations going forward"

Next Week:

WE throw the ball in the same situation

Its mind boggling.

This is where I'm at as well. It's far easier to chalk this season up to learning experience if you see the people in question actually learning.

Pittsburgh started it and
Pittsburgh ended it as far as playoffs are concerned.

Agreed. If last week we ran the ball and lost, I would have been ok with that. If weeks before we ran the ball on the goal line and got stuffed, instead of going empty set how many straight plays, I would have been ok with that.

But the constant say this and do that when the time comes is what is so infuriating. hes not learning, hes not developing, and hes hurting this team as a whole.

After Rudolph went after Garrett....

I know that I'm going to mess with you, but when you have a HC that is chosen by your QB, you know that is not going to happen....

He wasn't chosen BY HIM.. he might have been chosen in large part BECAUSE OF HIM.... but that's different.

Against the Bills, we ran and ran ..... and kept getting stuffed ..... and people complained that we ran too much.

I def do not remember ANYONE complaining we ran too much.