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Inactives should be out soon ..

#Browns inactives:
#10 WR Taywan Taylor
#22 S Eric Murray
#54 DE Olivier Vernon
#79 G Drew Forbes
#85 TE David Njoku
#86 TE Pharaoh Brown
#99 DT Justin Zimmer

Surprised by Njoku, but he hasn't looked sharp in practice segments we've seen. Drops and struggling on some routes.

Njoku??????

Big day from RSJ?

Come on Browns we need this one to have a shot at a winning season ...

Originally Posted By: devicedawg

Big day from RSJ?

I hate to say it but RSJ seems to have better hands then Njoku ...

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

Njoku??????

Waste of a roster spot at this point. Most fragile big dude I've ever seen.

The full list of (six) inactives:

WR KeeSean Johnson
CB Jalen Davis
S Deionte Thompson
OL Lamont Gaillard
OL Joshua Miles
TE Darrell Daniels

Originally Posted By: 1oldMutt

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

Njoku??????

Waste of a roster spot at this point. Most fragile big dude I've ever seen.

Njoku is a healthy scratch. Coach's decision.

Originally Posted By: GratefulDawg

Surprised by Njoku, but he hasn't looked sharp in practice segments we've seen. Drops and struggling on some routes.

Remember 34 years ago, the good old days,

when a player would join the Browns, and 2 years later would look like they'd improved into an even better version of themelves as a player?.

Ahh the good old days.

Originally Posted By: Milk Man

Originally Posted By: 1oldMutt

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

Njoku??????

Waste of a roster spot at this point. Most fragile big dude I've ever seen.

Njoku is a healthy scratch. Coach's decision.

I'll stand fast with my statement

Originally Posted By: Milk Man

Originally Posted By: 1oldMutt

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

Njoku??????

Waste of a roster spot at this point. Most fragile big dude I've ever seen.

Njoku is a healthy scratch. Coach's decision.

This team is so f'd up.

Originally Posted By: Milk Man

Originally Posted By: 1oldMutt

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

Njoku??????

Waste of a roster spot at this point. Most fragile big dude I've ever seen.

Njoku is a healthy scratch. Coach's decision.

Must have stepped on Fred's feelings.

The team really seems to like RSJ and Stephen Carlson.

Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan

The team really seems to like RSJ and Stephen Carlson.

You mean till they cut them next year for some 5th round guy they sign out of West Virginia State? Who looks real good "in camp" or blew everyone away in the "east west shrine game"? I'm just sayin there's a pattern.

..

I didn't come here to whine, I came here to say,

This Arizona games outcome is going to go a long way into showing what kind of respect and development,

or lack threrof, the Browns will get in the offseason and going into next years schedule.

and Given that ^^

Ain't it a bunch messed up we still don't get to watch a healthy Myles Garrett's effort to help this team out today!

Njoku is another bust .. he’ll be gone obviously

I'm sure most of you guys know, but Nick Chubb leads the NFL in rushing yards. Awesome!

Run that ball!

Go Browns!

We win the toss and defer ...

Originally Posted By: 3rd_and_20

I'm sure most of you guys know, but Nick Chubb leads the NFL in rushing yards. Awesome!

Run that ball!

I'd run him to assure he is tops come season end.

Come on D

Awful

Oh good a flag

Wtf defense

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Oh good a flag

Refs are gonna quickly show it's all about them.

Right through us.

Where’s the intensity

Originally Posted By: 3rd_and_20

Right through us.

Or is it threw?

My goodness

So when can we fire Kitchens?

Playing to get the coach clipped.

How can we not have any emotion to start a game

Nice stop.

Good play burris

It's time to move on from Kitchens...

Fitzgerald toasting us

Where i the D

Super job D

We seem totally disinterested

Wow. Not even 3 minutes into the game and we got Officiating complaints and calls for the coach to be fired. I can tell this is going to be a thread for the ages.

so can we fire anyone now

Wow, that was a great play, unfortunately.

That will do it game over

[censored] defense.

7-0 bad guys

Let’s go O

High scoring game coming our way today ...

you smell that ,smells like blowout

Outscore them boys

Defense = stout.

Originally Posted By: Jcamm

That will do it game over

Cool. Does that mean you're going to turn off your TV and leave us alone?

Wilkes really had us fired up

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

so can we fire anyone now

Players doing their part to make sure that "horrific collapse" happens.

Originally Posted By: MileHighBrown

Originally Posted By: Jcamm

That will do it game over

Cool. Does that mean you're going to turn off your TV and leave us alone?

Originally Posted By: MileHighBrown

Wow. Not even 3 minutes into the game and we got Officiating complaints and calls for the coach to be fired.

The whiners are off to a slow start today.

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Wilkes really had us fired up

They really came out to play for Wilkes.

Was Ogunjobi even in?

Another player that has regressed under Freddie.

This team has been so frustrating this year

Offense needs to respond come on boys

That was a little too too easy. Every time they have a team they should dominate, they start in a hole.

anybody really think that the Browns D looked anything but awful on that drive by Arizona?

Do we ever make it to the 25 on returns?

Nope

Hunt for 9

Nice little passin' play!

Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg

That was a little too too easy. Every time they have a team they should dominate, they start in a hole.

There's not much difference between Browns and Arizona.

Chubb for 1

Originally Posted By: BarkinMad

anybody really think that the Browns D looked anything but awful on that drive by Arizona?

Oh no. They definitely looked awful. But it was just the 1st drive. They'll make adjustments.

Pass to landry for 7

Chubb for 1, third down

Their run defense looks way better than Browns.

Timeout

Hadn't seen that Progressive commercial before.

jiggle the handle

Come on ... gotta get his

Originally Posted By: lionchamp29

jiggle the handle

Go out and practice...

find jr and get in sync..

Good job!

that rybeye looked awsome

Are my eyes deceiving me? We're actually running. I like that.

Offsides i believe

these anouncers sound like some espn football videogame

Originally Posted By: lionchamp29

that rybeye looked awsome

I thought the same thing. Mmmmmmmmm!

jr cant get the deep stuff.

blocking early?

Obj for 5

Originally Posted By: lionchamp29

these anouncers sound like some espn football videogame

And are 1,000 times better than that lady last week!

Lead judge looks like my elf on the shelf.

flag fest

False start

Game has a lot of flow.

Gotta clean it up, we’re doing well

drop

That defines OBJ this year

Catch the ball DIVA! LOL

darn hand hernia strikes again

I mean, really?

ya she was pretty bad....not i think the girl on nfl network, brunet, would do better

Easy catch, shoulda had it.

I dont get it

Gotta go Ratley to get a catch

nice Baker

Just cementing his ticket out

Same old story ... force it to OBJ .. INT

Same old song and dance

Nice throw there - let's KEEP forcing the ball to the DIVA! LOL

Mayfield is out?

Mayfield strikes again!

High and wide

whats a damian rately?

Baker gonna learn to not throw high.

Garbage, sick of it.

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Mayfield strikes again!

Crankin up the turnover machine

Announcer says, "you don't see that often from Beckham". I'm thinking, you haven't been watching the Browns then.

This year cant end soon enough

Oh come on.... That was Beckhams fault,, he should have been taller!!

Originally Posted By: MileHighBrown

Announcer says, "you don't see that often from Beckham". I'm thinking, you haven't been watching the Browns then.

haha exactly

Originally Posted By: The Beast

Nice throw there - let's KEEP forcing the ball to the DIVA! LOL

Awful is not a strong enough word to describe that throw.

That's your 33rd ranked QB there.

Out of 32 teams.

Originally Posted By: EveDawg

Baker gonna learn to not throw high.

Or is he...

jr aint helpin us

Originally Posted By: The Beast

Nice throw there - let's KEEP forcing the ball to the DIVA! LOL

It was a good throw. ODELL dropped it.

We need a tall receiver for those kind of throws.

Baker's just getting warmed up! Looks like he's got a good feel for the long ball today,

that interception not withstanding, we could see BRM light it up!

Can we PLEASE ship the DIVA when the season is over? Seriously, this clown is NOT worth it. Tired of seeing this forced crap for a pick especially after an EASY drop. Get the hell out of here already. Geezus.

When will Freddy learn (* in the second half) that the offense should run first.... Not going through Baker

we need a tall reciever for jump balls

Baker’s need to keep OBJ happy kills us ... and his lack of accuracy this year is alarming

Well Tell Baker not to over throw the ball

Originally Posted By: EveDawg

Originally Posted By: The Beast

Nice throw there - let's KEEP forcing the ball to the DIVA! LOL

It was a good throw. ODELL dropped it.

Um...not on the pick. That was forced and HIGH. Dumb throw just to please the DIVA. Again. Turnover. SMH

Kitchens abandons the run early ... Again

Originally Posted By: 3rd_and_20

We need a tall receiver for those kind of throws.

7'6" ?

Our defense is pathetic

So this off season we have to hope we have a coach and a QB.

Thought the QB thing was solved.

But I was told Baker was going to light it up because you Kliff and Kyler.

Chip on shoulder!

What a joke.

D in quit mode already

Man I can't take this today COME ON BROWNS!!!!

we just got to get OBJ the ball more...

Lol

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

Kitchens abandons the run early ... Again

Not Baker's fault!

we are making these guys look like a playoff team

Why don't they run the damn ball??????????

Originally Posted By: DogNDC

When will Freddy learn (* in the second half) that the offense should run first.... Not going through Baker

Freddie is a dumbass who should NOT be calling plays. That should be fairly obvious to anyone who has watching the fiasco of an offense this season. Completely clueless.

Pathetic

Can you imagine how Monken feels?

Thought he was going to ride Baker to a head coaching gig.

Backed the wrong horse.

Watch a fake

murry almost got creamed

Originally Posted By: SuperBrown

Why don't they run the damn ball??????????

You realize who the play caller is, right?

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Can you imagine how Monken feels?

Thought he was going to ride Baker to a head coaching gig.

Backed the wrong horse.

Monken is clueless too. This team should be a run first team. Period. The air raid can take a hike.

Hill yard

not too many people on here today

I'm tired of watching Freddie waste this talent I hate to lose but maybe that will send Freddie packing ...

Or on the field for us lol

And this is the Guy that John Dorsey wants to keep for another year!!. What has Kitchens done to even think he deserves another year.

I bet anyone that the Browns will throw over 35 times this game!...

Monken is gone and Fred will stay. Question is will it make a difference?

RUN THE BALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pass happy leads to trouble

Never saw him.

I dont understand our o

PASS PASS PASS

Yeah, same thing every week

This offense is just not good

This is what we waited all day for???

3 & out

I heard on the radio earlier we are a run first team, I just laughed.

We are making the Cardinals look like world beaters ...

Good coverage at least

Can we please sit OBJ? His body language screams that he doesn't want to be out there.

Like I said.. another series were the Browns threw ALL 3 downs... SO now the Browns D has to hold again because Freddy calling all pass plays, trying to out pass Arizona

Originally Posted By: 1oldMutt

Monken is gone and Fred will stay. Question is will it make a difference?

Only if Freddie is forced to let someone else call the plays. Also need to ship OBJ. Nothing but a distraction to the entire offense. However, if it takes 3 losses to get Freddie out of here I'm all for it. I've seen enough. He doesn't have it; as a leader or as a play caller.

Freddie gonna pass no matter what

Originally Posted By: Tulsa

I heard on the radio earlier we are a run first team, I just laughed.

Should be ????

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

This is what we waited all day for???

It exactly what I expected all day. In fact, I'm choosing to wrap gifts and mostly ignore it. THAT'S saying something!!

The Browns are just not a good team, despite having some talent.

Lololol lololol

Horrible

unreal athlete

another forced trow to OBJ.

He's quick

we have soo many weapons...ive heard that too many times

Murry toying with us

But the Cardinals can run it.

OMG... Now Murray is looking like L.Jackson. I guess we did not think he would run

Originally Posted By: Jcamm

Freddie gonna pass no matter what

That alone is reason enough to fire him. He is incompetent.

Pittsburgh destroyed us after we beat them ...

pizazz

Does this constitute as a horrible performance

Dawgs, it's going to be a long day.

Originally Posted By: lionchamp29

we have soo many weapons...ive heard that too many times

We do not have anyone competent enough to use them correctly. This is fairly obvious. We need a few NFL coaches on staff; not a bunch of clowns auditioning for the job.

we are mahem

The Cardinals are last in the league in Defense ... Freddie are you aware of that ???

While Freddie has left a lot to be desired all you guys clamoring for Freddie to run the ball...at some point you have to pass and you have a QB who.has no idea what he's looking at after the ball is snapped. Which means he's not really sure what he's looking at presnap either. Can't blame that on Freddie.

Yeah, it seems so

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

The Cardinals are last in the league in Defense ... Freddie are you aware of that ???

Your QB sucks.

Fire all of our staff!

Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg

Dawgs, it's going to be a long day.

I hope not but...

Come on D

3 and 9

Watch #53 for the Browns

I hate to start over with new coaches but???

Call me when we have a real team, this is a joke.

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg

Dawgs, it's going to be a long day.

I hope not but...

It sure looks that way, at least so far.

92 what ya doing

Originally Posted By: tastybrownies

Fire all of our staff!

The coaching staff isn't why this game is going this way. It's your QB and your best defensive player who cared more about himself than the team.

Unbelievable

Did the DC tell our defense that Kyler Murray can run???????

Omg

14 -0

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

The Cardinals are last in the league in Defense ... Freddie are you aware of that ???

Your QB sucks.

So 9 passes and 3 rushes is good play calling? Especially if the QB sucks? LOL

Freddie is a POS and needs to go. There are people on THIS board who could call a better game. Seriously.

Gotta love the drake

they score here you can count on a 50 pass day , if they score here you can cou

Man, glad I didn't go.

total domination

Kyler can’t even see over his lineman and is doing this

This is the beginning of the collapse that is spoken of in the Pure Football" thread.

Defense Travels!

I am so shook up I can't even type right

This game could really get out of hand quick. It seems like it already has.

This is shaping up to be a disaster

Not overlooking Arizona something something.... Pathetic.

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Originally Posted By: tastybrownies

Fire all of our staff!

The coaching staff isn't why this game is going this way. It's your QB and your best defensive player who cared more about himself than the team.

Yes, Freddie and Wilks are freaking geniuses. I'm sure if they got fired teams would be lining up to hire them. GMAFB already.

Originally Posted By: The Beast

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

The Cardinals are last in the league in Defense ... Freddie are you aware of that ???

Your QB sucks.

So 9 passes and 3 rushes is good play calling? Especially if the QB sucks? LOL

Freddie is a POS and needs to go. There are people on THIS board who could call a better game. Seriously.

Are you actually watching the game?

We have not stopped Arizona one bit!!.. Did we watch film on Arizona??

14-0 Bad Guys Can We Pull an Ohio State ???

Originally Posted By: The Beast

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Originally Posted By: tastybrownies

Fire all of our staff!

The coaching staff isn't why this game is going this way. It's your QB and your best defensive player who cared more about himself than the team.

Yes, Freddie and Wilks are freaking geniuses. I'm sure if they got fired teams would be lining up to hire them. GMAFB already.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

This Browns team sucks, same ol' Browns we've seen for the last 20 years, LOSERS.

FYI The year without a Santa Clause is on at 5 o clock

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

This is shaping up to be a disaster

The whole season has been a disaster

We lost. Freddy gets canned after we finish 7-9.

We don’t have the coaching staff or qb yet. Ssdy

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

14-0 Bad Guys Can We Pull an Ohio State ???

Ryan day ain’t our coach. I wish he was though

lose today and it's probably another losing season

Me too

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Originally Posted By: The Beast

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

The Cardinals are last in the league in Defense ... Freddie are you aware of that ???

Your QB sucks.

So 9 passes and 3 rushes is good play calling? Especially if the QB sucks? LOL

Freddie is a POS and needs to go. There are people on THIS board who could call a better game. Seriously.

Are you actually watching the game?

Yes I am. You have a high quality RB tandem and a defense that is gassed. So let's keep chucking the ball all over the yard and then punt. Seems like a super idea to me.

Originally Posted By: HewDawg

We lost. Freddy gets canned after we finish 7-9.

I called 6-10 this week.

Standing by that.

Originally Posted By: slick

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

This is shaping up to be a disaster

The whole season has been a disaster

Last 3 decades etc....

team got off bus goes though the motions back on bus

Originally Posted By: Jcamm

FYI The year without a Santa Clause is on at 5 o clock

Even the 10,000th viewing would be more interesting.

Just show me some desire and I'm good...

Cards have outgained us 196-60

Originally Posted By: 3rd_and_20

This game could really get out of hand quick. It seems like it already has.

You don't think the Browns can get 2 scores, in 3 and a half quarters against the "Cardinals"?

No worries,

Originally Posted By: BarkinMad

This Browns team sucks, same ol' Browns we've seen for the last 20 years, LOSERS.

Originally Posted By: BarkinMad

This Browns team sucks, same ol' Browns we've seen for the last 20 years, LOSERS.

I blame coaching. A good coach would do well with this roster. We just hired the wrong guy. Hoping for Rivera in 2020.

The defense isn't gassed. It's the first quarter.

Your QB sucks. That's why you're down.

Originally Posted By: HewDawg

We lost. Freddy gets canned after we finish 7-9.

We will be lucky to finish 7-9. Freddie getting canned would be a good start to next season.

Terrible preparation and that's on coaching, terrible execution and that's on the players.

Our return game is so so bad

Let the ball go in the end zone!!!!

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Originally Posted By: HewDawg

We lost. Freddy gets canned after we finish 7-9.

I called 6-10 this week.

Standing by that.

I said this at the beginning of the season thinking I was going against all reason...

Calling the dentists emergency line, hoping I can save the day getting an emergency yet unneeded root canal. Much more fun than watching this...

has hilliard ever return one past the 20

Keeping kitchens does nothing but delay development. Name a single player that’s improved under him.. then all the players that have regressed. I’m ok with Dorsey being replaced too. He hasn’t built a team . He’s built a team of players

Half this team is playing like they have already quit. Put some players out there that are hungry and want to play.

What is going on here?

that kid just broke the tv

LOL...this is the Arizona Cardinals beating our a$$..So typical bad coaching, bad preparations ,etc....

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

Keeping kitchens does nothing but delay development. Name a single player that’s improved under him.. then all the players that have regressed. I’m ok with Dorsey being replaced too. He hasn’t built a team . He’s built a team of players

So many players have regressed under Kitchens it's crazy. Hell many can't even see the field.

Luckily OBJ caught it

nice pass

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

What is going on here?

Well Freddie and Wilks are calling a hell of a game. But the players just suck - according to some "experts" here. LOL

Great block OBJ

Originally Posted By: s003apr

Half this team is playing like they have already quit. Put some players out there that are hungry and want to play.

Why? There's nothing to play for.

come we need a TD

I guess Beckham came to play

Good move ratley

We have the best RB's in the NFL but our OL is CRAP.

look a run

That was a real nice block!

Gotta get going here O

Well look at that.. Running the ball

Good run chubb

Great audible by Baker.

Never seen him do that before with that much success.

Chubb

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

Keeping kitchens does nothing but delay development. Name a single player that’s improved under him.. then all the players that have regressed. I’m ok with Dorsey being replaced too. He hasn’t built a team . He’s built a team of players

GM has got the talent. Now he needs a leader that brings that talent together. Let's all hope that this part gets done this off season. I think we can all agree that we as fans deserve it.

Originally Posted By: 3rd_and_20

That was a real nice block!

But then he turned and tried to posture like some bad ass. Not necessary!

Keep it going

ok...stop running freddie

JUST HAND IT TO CHUBB

Way to go chubby

TOUCHDOWN BROWNS!!!!

Well Look... When you RUN THE BALL

In my adult life there's be nearly ZERO sports heroes. Nick Chubb has filled that void!

running the ball works FREDDIE

TD Chubb - A run!!!

soo many weapons

Heck of a run

See? RUN THE DAMN BALL! Gee, what a freaking surprise! My God, why does it take THE GENIUS SO long to figure it out? SMH

14-7

Originally Posted By: lionchamp29

soo many weapons

So little imagination.

Now we will go pass happy rest of the game

About time that dope, Freddie Kitchens, realized Chubb is the best player on the team and to give him the ball.

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Heck of a run

Great run.

Only took us being exposed by having a bad qb and no defense for freddie finally realizes we have the best rb in nfl. Hopefully this continues and Wilkes finds a way not to suck

you should of threw it freddie

Chubb

So tip the hat to Fred. Maybe its penetrating that skull finally!

he is the leading rusher for a freaking reason

That’s the gameplan! Keep the dang ball in Nick Chubb’s hands!

Chubb 7 Carries 66 Yards 9.4 YPC It doesn't take a Genious to see Who We Should Be Featuring !!!

Originally Posted By: 1oldMutt

So tip the hat to Fred. Maybe its penetrating that skull finally!

for one series at least

Come on d

what a couple of runs by Chubb, as I said, best RB's in the NFL, finally got them some blocking. See what good blocking can do, Dorsey, you still need to beef up the OL, make that a priorty.

Originally Posted By: Milk Man

About time that dope, Freddie Kitchens, realized Chubb is the best player on the team and to give hime the ball.

I will stress again...you also have to be able to pass the ball. We were not down 14-0 because we weren't running the ball. We were down 14-0 because the QB and defense sucks.

What a catch by witten just now

Originally Posted By: Jcamm

he is the leading rusher for a freaking reason

Because he IS a throwback RB and a baaaad dude!

That is the quote of the year!!!... All that talent but Freddy and O-corrd have no imagination...

we are the rock and wreck

Well now you have to stop Murray.

now d will get up a huge play

Let’s go D

lets tie it up before half

Where is our freaking defense

Defense is stinking the joint up

Can we please stop their run...

We make Drake look like Barry Sanders

They get 10 yards a clip

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Originally Posted By: Milk Man

About time that dope, Freddie Kitchens, realized Chubb is the best player on the team and to give hime the ball.

I will stress again...you also have to be able to pass the ball. We were not down 14-0 because we weren't running the ball. We were down 14-0 because the QB and defense sucks.

You also have to play to your strengths. The offense should revolve around Chubb. Freddie still doesn't understand this and it's week 15.

Wow D made a play

WAY TO GO MACK

THE ROOKIE!!!!

Wilson!

Freddie Kitchens is thick in the head to not see what this team’s identity should be. The only thing we have consistently done well is run the ball. Imagine what Chubb’s and Hunt’s numbers would be if we ran the ball 35-40 times a game!

Great play buddy

Way to go Mack

Needed that

hell of an INT!

Time to run the ball again.

Come on now O

Run Chubb the next 9 plays please

Let’s see if FK learns his lesson from Pittsburgh and runs it

Mack

big mac attack

My boy Mack!

Good, we ran for 5

we gonna throw it ?

Nice 6 yard run

Now it should be the Chubb/Hunt review. Give em a big dose!

Defense Travels!

3 and 3

Maybe run again

Wtf is this

WTF WAS THAT

That play should cost kitchens his job

That dumb play has not worked ever

LOL LOL

Freddy getting too cute

He will never learn

duuuuuuuuuuuu

14-10 bad guys

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

That play should cost kitchens his job

Absolutely!

An absolute joke. That shovel pass play has been a turd for weeks/months now.

Dumb, just dumb

Another DAMN ASS play call. Nice job Freddie. That play has NOT worked ALL season. What does this idiot NOT understand? Geezus. Fire this POS. Please.

Lmao wtf

How many failed shovel passes does that make?

Back averaging 7 ypc we need 4 let’s dial up a trick play where our short unathletic qb runs it

3 baby

So we have 3rd and 2 and you take Chubb off the field???

Originally Posted By: Milk Man

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Originally Posted By: Milk Man

About time that dope, Freddie Kitchens, realized Chubb is the best player on the team and to give hime the ball.

I will stress again...you also have to be able to pass the ball. We were not down 14-0 because we weren't running the ball. We were down 14-0 because the QB and defense sucks.

You also have to play to your strengths. The offense should revolve around Chubb. Freddie still doesn't understand this and it's week 15.

It can't revolve around Chubb the entire game. Have to be able to pass the ball.

Freddie won't even let Baker pass it now.

Every week we run a cute little that blows up in our face and wekk after week we still run it

Originally Posted By: jfanent

How many failed shovel passes does that make?

89.

Freddie strikes again

Originally Posted By: jfanent

How many failed shovel passes does that make?

5445

Originally Posted By: Jcamm

He will never learn

I hope Dorsey has. Fire this clown please. He simply does NOT understand what to do. Get rid of him. ASAP

I just don't get it, you knew from looking at the defense that the run had no chance. Is Baker not allowed to audible out? or does he just lack the sense to audible out of that play?

Now we need a stop. Can't let them keep gashing us for 10 yards a pop.

Come on D

You know Freddie has to be using an Etch-a-sketch to draw up plays like that.

At least the Browns salvaged 3 points outta that turnover.

10-14 allows the Cards to still think they've got the game in hand, when they don't.

The enemy is in front of us, the enemy is behind us, the enemy is on our left side, and on our right side, They Can't get away this time! (Patton)

How about another TO

lol....gotta look at his playbook again

Lol...what the hell was that???

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

So we have 3rd and 2 and you take Chubb off the field???

Yes - when you are play calling genius. That's EXACTLY what to do. LOL

Good coverage

The OL is so up and down, a play or two they'll look good then totally fall apart.

freddie is danger too himself

Yea. And the previous run by Chubb got 1 yd guys.. please use reason..

Originally Posted By: Tulsa

You know Freddie has to be using an Etch-a-sketch to draw up plays like that.

And Monken grabs it, turns it upside down and shakes it. At least he should..

Originally Posted By: Tulsa

You know Freddie has to be using an Etch-a-sketch to draw up plays like that.

Nah, that has a pointed plastic pencil. Freddie's not allowed to have sharp objects.

Finally a run stop

I'm outta here, off to work.

Go Browns!!!

nice special team since a long time

Missed tackles again

That is AWFUL

This defense is embarrassing.

DAMN it Baker, why can't you tackle? You suck! LOL

Smh

see target wrap up

Wilks makes miss the days of rob ryan

BOOO

Schobert is not doing well today.

He was getting manhandled, and shoved around earlier, and then missed that tackle.

We are missing tackles like crazy

ward is glass

byrd is a bird

These guys are not strong enough

Oh look hospital ward hurt again...waste of pick

Ward hurt

Ward down

I have been saying it since training camp. Mitchell should be starting over greedy

Scho and thomas with the miss

Originally Posted By: The Beast

DAMN it Baker, why can't you tackle? You suck! LOL

That was Freddie's fault, obviously

the tackling on theis D is pathetic, that is part coaching and part execution.

Just short

What a joke of a tackle attempt of a child

announcer...joe told me he has to tackle today and just did

Going for it

Originally Posted By: MileHighBrown

Originally Posted By: The Beast

DAMN it Baker, why can't you tackle? You suck! LOL

That was Freddie's fault, obviously

Nah, Freddie is a genius. Baker sucks. Didn't you hear? LOL

Ward is physically weak.

Unreal

tackling is DESIRE... and pure WANT!!!....

Yeah ward is such a disappointment

id kick it

Originally Posted By: DogNDC

tackling is DESIRE... and pure WANT!!!....

Why do we keep these players on the team. If I were a coach I'd cut them all.

Didn’t even challenge

Arizona’s pathetic oline dominating our dline and overrated mlb

Remember when...

Memba When!! When (some coach) would send a linebacker and a safety up the same gap on those blitzes,

They weren't even fast players, I forget their names, about 2014, 2012, seemed like nobody ever got away from those sack attempts.

Originally Posted By: DogNDC

tackling is DESIRE... and pure WANT!!!....

piere desire?

landry crawl

Myles why???

Originally Posted By: The Beast

Originally Posted By: MileHighBrown

Originally Posted By: The Beast

DAMN it Baker, why can't you tackle? You suck! LOL

That was Freddie's fault, obviously

Nah, Freddie is a genius. Baker sucks. Didn't you hear? LOL

I don't think Freddie is good either.

But you can't blame Freddie for Baker's shortcomings.

Your response is that of an overly emotional child.

Man we make drake look like a power horse RB lol

Originally Posted By: lionchamp29

Originally Posted By: DogNDC

tackling is DESIRE... and pure WANT!!!....

piere desire?

A deep cut.

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Yeah ward is such a disappointment

Again, how many players have regressed under Freddie?

Originally Posted By: lionchamp29

Originally Posted By: DogNDC

tackling is DESIRE... and pure WANT!!!....

piere desire?

No Sir

we make fitz look like a hall of famer...oh wait

Our linebackers are below average in the run game

Jeez, everything running wide has worked for Arizona

Originally Posted By: THROW LONG

Remember when...

Memba When!! When (some coach) would send a linebacker and a safety up the same gap on those blitzes,

They weren't even fast players, I forget their names, about 2014, 2012, seemed like nobody ever got away from those sack attempts.

I memba

What the hell is going on out there? Nobody tackling. Everyone grabbing. Grab. Grab. Grab.

21-10 upcoming

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

Our linebackers are below average in the run game

Team has quit.

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Yeah ward is such a disappointment

Again, how many players have regressed under Freddie?

He has skills but he is physically lacking in size and ability to stay healthy.

21-10 coming up!

Sad

Goodness he’s so fast

Our defense is historically bad against run

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

Our linebackers are below average in the run game

Team has quit.

I'd fire Kitchens after this game. There's no point in waiting.

Come on D - need a stop for a field goal. One time.

Everything about this team says bad coaching

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Everything about this team says bad coaching

Yep.

I have no faith we stop them here

I think obj has a harder hit than anyone on our defense

red red whine making tackles and pass interfering all of the time

R E S P E C T

The faster we let Kitchens go the better for the organization, the fans, and the players.

Just like clockwork

murry gonna run

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

I think obj has a harder hit than anyone on our defense

Must have forgot what Myles can do with a helmet lol

This is embarrassing. If dorsey keeps this staff than his gum chomping ass can go too

Just like I said...

Oh well - not all dreams come true. Nice defense. LOL

21-10

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Just like clockwork

Next week will be a bloodbath.

Murray is already light years better than baker

Wtf #29...didnt even try to play the ball

we gonna kneel

Why did we not call timeouts on D there?

I wish our TE's could do that.

Redwine

...

Originally Posted By: tastybrownies

The faster we let Kitchens go the better for the organization, the fans, and the players.

Nah, that will mess up the continuity of the organization. This guy is a genius. He should be retained for sure. LOL

All #29 had to do is push the receiver out of bounds!.. But nope..

Bad play by Redwine

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

Murray is already light years better than baker

Hyperbole.

And I'm down on Baker.

Losing to Arizona is just plain ridiculous ...

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Just like clockwork

Next week will be a bloodbath.

People are pissed. We need to hold the coaches and ownership accountable.

Besides Chubb. Who has dorsey drafted worth a damn

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Just like clockwork

Next week will be a bloodbath.

I hope so. Time to cash is on this joke of a team.

coming out throwing boys 25 sec left

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

Losing to Arizona is just plain ridiculous ...

The Browns and Arizona are about even.

Our defense is trash. 300 freakin' yards to the Cardinals in a half.

We suck

This is a very bad team

Dumbass can't even call a kneel down properly. LOL

Browns are afraid to let Baker pass.

Originally Posted By: lampdogg

Why did we not call timeouts on D there?

We did call a timeout

red red wine makes me feel so fine..givin up passes all of the time

Originally Posted By: lampdogg

Why did we not call timeouts on D there?

Freddie didn't want them to have time for another pre-half TD.

out played out coached

Baltimore is salivating and thinking about revenge. I bet they get it.

Can we bring Ryan Day in at halftime???

This offense is 100% healthy. And this is the result. Nothing anyone can say that kitchens deserves another year

Originally Posted By: DCDAWGFAN

Our defense is trash. 300 freakin' yards to the Cardinals in a half.

Everyone can thank their "class act" Myles Garrett for that.

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

Can we bring Ryan Day in at halftime???

weeden?

Kitchens couldn’t find the ground if he jumped off a 10 story building.

Originally Posted By: lionchamp29

red red wine makes me feel so fine..givin up passes all of the time

Lol

I’m at a loss about our defense too

This game should make ownership take a good long look at the coaching on this team if they haven't already...

I'm going to walk the dog!!.. Freddy will lose the last 3 games and there will still be excuses made for him. Baker has not progressed at all this year. Freddy cannot call a game. Changes have to be made.

so is the boss

This is the worst defense we've had in 20 years.

If Wilks is back, the browns don't care...

Originally Posted By: tastybrownies

The faster we let Kitchens go the better for the organization, the fans, and the players.

Hmm,

Not sure how I feel about that one.

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

Can we bring Ryan Day in at halftime???

We need to do something. Get Day, Urban Meyer in here.

I cant believe what i jus saw in the Minnesota game lol

Or D looks like a sieve

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Originally Posted By: DCDAWGFAN

Our defense is trash. 300 freakin' yards to the Cardinals in a half.

Everyone can thank their "class act" Myles Garrett for that.

BS.. if losing one guy turns you into this, then that guy must be superman. Myles isn't the reason they have massive holes up the middle and nobody on either side making a play. We still have 2 probowl players on the DL and another at MLB.. just crappy.

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Originally Posted By: DCDAWGFAN

Our defense is trash. 300 freakin' yards to the Cardinals in a half.

Everyone can thank their "class act" Myles Garrett for that.

Hardly. Next man up or the coaching sucks.

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

I’m at a loss about our defense too

I would at least give Wilks a pass given the loss of depth and starting talent. Mack, Redwine, and TakiTaki were never even supposed to see time this year. Guys like Cox weren't even on the team.

They said barring "a major collapse ".
What does that actually mean? Losing all 3? 2 of 3? I think not going at least 9-7 was a major failure.

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

This game should make ownership take a good long look at the coaching on this team if they haven't already...

They've already been letting it out that Freddy is back next year.

If they allow this entire staff to remain in place, it's gonna get ugly.

if we don't finish at least 8-8 Freddie should be history ... JMHO

Monken will go leaving Fred to diddle around unhindered next year.

This is a collapse IMO

Originally Posted By: chirp30

Kitchens couldn’t find the ground if he jumped off a 10 story building.

I'm not going to stop beating this horse...

Freddie is bad. I agree. Stay or go the Browns will muck it up regardless.

But I see very little blame for the players and Baker specifically.

Baker is trash. The Browns are no closer to solving their QB position than they were since 99. This is a huge part of the problem. If you "have to" run the offense through Chubb you've already lost. This game is about the QB. Have to be able to pass the ball.

Baker and Myles were supposed to lead this team for the next decade. One has seriously regressed and the other is a knucklehead.

Pat Shurmur used to be my least favorite HC since the return. He has been dethroned by this clown because this team is legitimately more talented than we’ve ever had.

texans have both our old rbs..odd

I’m at the game. It’s depressing.

What's more likely, letting every player go or letting a coach go. Coaches get axed. That's the way it is.

Halftime discuss:

Best Coach the Browns have had since 99 was Butch Davis!

What do you say?

Originally Posted By: DCDAWGFAN

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Originally Posted By: DCDAWGFAN

Our defense is trash. 300 freakin' yards to the Cardinals in a half.

Everyone can thank their "class act" Myles Garrett for that.

BS.. if losing one guy turns you into this, then that guy must be superman. Myles isn't the reason they have massive holes up the middle and nobody on either side making a play. We still have 2 probowl players on the DL and another at MLB.. just crappy.

It's not BS. Myles changes the D.

But let's call this what it really is.

The team is not that good. The QB is not that good. And they have nothing to play for.

Originally Posted By: cfrs15

I’m at the game. It’s depressing.

sorry bud

Agreed on Butch

Originally Posted By: THROW LONG

Halftime discuss:

Best Coach the Browns have had since 99 was Butch Davis!

What do you say?

I'd have liked to see Chud with 2 more years

Who knows.. we never have one long enough to make a informed decision.

the good news is we have weapons to make a comeback...no sarcasm this time

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Originally Posted By: cfrs15

I’m at the game. It’s depressing.

sorry bud

Glad I didn't go.

I don't think Kitchens has what it takes to be a head coach. If they bring him back next year the better hire a better OC, and strip Kitchens of playcalling.

How many times does he go to that god awful shovel pass that does nothing?

How many games, is he out schemed, out coached?

And why did he regress?

The coach. Zampese was the reason for bakers success last year. Freddy too the credit and fired Zampese.

You don't go from the best in the second half of the season to this without a coaching and scheme breakdown.

Baker has been bad...but it's on Freddy as well

I think a jff less team with pettine could have been good

I agree ... he’d be my 2nd pick

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

I think a jff less team with pettine could have been good

Everyone laughably pines for Chud, but Pettine is the one that got away.

Originally Posted By: redddog

And why did he regress?

The coach. Zampese was the reason for bakers success last year. Freddy too the credit and fired Zampese.

You don't go from the best in the second half of the season to this without a coaching and scheme breakdown.

Baker has been bad...but it's on Freddy as well

I’ve said all year. Bob was right and they should have fired Lindley 10 weeks ago and brought in zampese. Only thing bigger than fat boys ego is his cholesterol number

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

I think a jff less team with pettine could have been good

gimme some jff...maybe

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Originally Posted By: chirp30

Kitchens couldn’t find the ground if he jumped off a 10 story building.

I'm not going to stop beating this horse...

Freddie is bad. I agree. Stay or go the Browns will muck it up regardless.

But I see very little blame for the players and Baker specifically.

Baker is trash. The Browns are no closer to solving their QB position than they were since 99. This is a huge part of the problem. If you "have to" run the offense through Chubb you've already lost. This game is about the QB. Have to be able to pass the ball.

Baker and Myles were supposed to lead this team for the next decade. One has seriously regressed and the other is a knucklehead.

Rish, you gotta look at why Baker has regressed. Why was he so accurate last year and this year he's still throwing high and inaccurate?

Piss poor coaching. We now have Ryan Lindley who has little to no experience coaching QBs responsible for developing the franchise QB.

I guess Wylie was right, Zampese had a lot to do with Baker's success last year.

I'm not excusing Freddie. Trust me.

But Baker has played like crap all year. It's not all Lindley.

I'm ready to move on from Freddie and Mayfield at this juncture.