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Today's Games...

Leading Passer- Baker Mayfield 8-15, 193 YDS, 2-TD, INT

#2 Reciever- Jarvis Landry 2-REC, 82 YDS, TD

William's is a weakling

Very much so

Real player though

Wish we could execute a screen like that

It's hard against a 1-14 team.

When you’re playing for someone’s job

Just so easy ...

Wilson is always on the other end of a good play by offense

25 yards on 3rd and 8 - yikes.

Cox plays hard.

Good play Cox

trivia: when was the last time we won the last game of the season? I can't remember without looking it up

Dang, almost got it

They said it's been since like 2009 or something.

1964 lol

Still the bungles I hope we realize

This vacuums.

Get them some binocoulars,

The Defense is caught "watching" again. bleh

23-16 bad guys

Was gonna say that about Mack...he's average.

Big crowd there.

Bakers commercials remain through week 17

Man I’d love to have a coach like Flores here. Talk about overachieving. That’s well coached team with very little talent

They all dressed up as empty seats.

It's an annual tradition in Cleveland and Cincinnati.

Only the die-hards there at this point....

Our D is really bad without Garrett.

That's what game day will ook like in 2020 without a positive coaching change!

I like that one and the toilet one.

Robert Smith was a stud

It was the commercial where Baker wore sandals with socks, that I knew he was going to fail.

Screen plays don't work for us.

Was that just GRobinson who got toasted

Let's go!

Let's make this 22-23!!

Nice job there Robinson.

It requires ability to block on the move.

Dorsey should be fired just for not addressing Tackles alone

INT

Disaster pass

Baker still showing he can’t play in the nfl as a starter

I don’t know what changes will be made, I do know I will be glad to not have Greg Robinson at left tackle next year.

Mayfield and Beckham are Oil and Water.

Lololololol

We were setup to get a franchise guy and blew it

I actually don't mind the pick there.

The return sucks. But you might as well take a shot. Same as a punt.

Careless throw

That was basically a punt.

If they’d let baker throw it, he’d make a great punter.

Yup, just looked it up, 2009 against the Jaguars, same year we finished with 4 straight wins to save Mangini's job for another year

Obj can’t throw himself the ball. He overthrew by 15 yards

OBJ just quit on that play

Ugliness all around

That whole drive was undone by Greg Robinson.

The Bengals are daring the Browns to beat them with the pass.

Then when we pass, either the protection breaks down or Baker is clueless.

Bakers appearance is haggard at best

That throw right there shows you Mayfield will never be a viable NFL starter

you can't fix stupid and Mayfield IS stupid...WTH was he thinking? OBJ was triple covered lol thats awful.

Kitchens since this is your last game as HC yank Mayfield and put in Gilbert which you should have done 11 games ago you would probably still have a job.

INT back at ya

AND WE GOT RIGHT BACK

Hey, we got an interception!

Bengals trying for the nail. Should have just run it. We couldn’t stop it

Baker gonna be like...here Andy, hold my beer.

Fred Kitchens, zack Taylor. Zack Taylor, Fed Kitchens...what's the difference...

Wow! what a QB duel we got going here!

I've seen enough...

I'm ready to trade OBJ for linemen. Fire Freddy and you'd have Landry and Higgins with Rat and Hodge as depth. That's plenty.

Robinson should never be allowed to play professional sports.

Speaking of beer, you see the beer gut Mayfield came back from this past offseason...he wasn't jacked from lifting weights, he got a damn beer gut from shotgunning beers this offseason when he wasn't making commercials

Do either of these coaches understand running the ball against defenses that are bad at stopping the run? Especially the Browns, can't stop Mixon hardly at all today. Browns OL is not helping Chubb or Hunt very much today, that is an area of great need, right there with HC.

Our OL is having a bad day

About 100 lbs.

I was on the plane back from the ratbird game with Bryan Cox (SR) … when I realized it was him I told my son "Ha - dads root for their boys for life"

I could tell he appreciated that I gave him a what's up but didn't try to bother him on the flight … it was really cool to see him being a fan (decked out in browns gear)

Haha

Higgins isn't coming back and I don't want him here

HIGGINS QUIT ON HIS TEAM DURING THE SEATTLE GAME

He flat out refused to go in and play, We should have cut that moron months ago...He is a cancer and this offseason and the expiration of his contract can't come fast enough.

God baker is just so bad

Our O line is weak.

But the commercials only took 2 days!

Meanwhile Baker can't convert 3rd and 4.

Number one overall pick!

Sacked

Throw the ball baker

Whys Laundry looking like hes jogging his routes

That should be the title of the story of our season.

I’m beginning to think we won’t be a good team this year

Wow.

I agree with announcers, Browns WR's are not doing all they can to get open, they're letting Cincy just cover them and Oh Well. Gotta have some better effort.

Tanking to oust the Fredster. Baker leading the coup...

Slow eyes. 20 other QBs would have made it to the other side of the field where he had a one on one.

Nothing an off season of Madden won't fix.

Sorry, I can't help myself.

He was supposed to save us from the crap show.

Instead he's become a part of it.

On that one play Landry was jogging and Beckham was limping noticeably.

Hear the announcer? receivers not finishing their routes, not fighting fortheir QB?...they don't like Mayfield...I believe firmly that neither OBJ or Landry like Mayfield, they may say so publically because they are forced to. However, I can't see either of those guys liking a guy that has done nothing but run his mouth and not produce, that kinda **** gets old fast with guys like OBJ Landry.

If we are going to keep Baker, we gotta bring in someone like Teddy Bridgewater, REAL COMPETITION, either he will get his rear end in gear, or he will step aside for a real QB....what we are doing currently just isn't working.

The crowd sounds like we are playing a preseason game.

True, but OBJ quit on the play

we are losing to a 1-14 Bengals team LOL

I could easily see Haslam telling both Dorsey and Kitchens to "Get the **** out of my building, your fired!" later tonight lol

What were seeing here is a disgrace.

Honestly I think they are hurt. Do they like Baker? I think it has more to do with Freddie.

Flag on us ... drive extended

Williams is a bust, you’ll never convince me otherwise

He can't be one bit happy at all.

I wouldn't mind them bringing in Bridgewater one bit.

We leave middle of field open more than any team

John Ross ...

We are not much better than a 1-14 team.

When you don't have a QB, you will get double digit losses.

1st and goal

Oh look williams with another blown coverage

Every time I see him with that glove on, I can’t help but think he’s going to do the moon walk.

I told everyone in the prediction thread we were losing this and the reasons why.

It's happening exactly like I said.

Let’s be honest, two goals in this game, get chubb title and make sure freddie gets fired, so far so good on second one

CMC hasn’t done much, so it’s Chubb’s

OBJ gonna be 10 yards short of 1000

William's is weak but I'm willing to see what he does in year two before I say he is a bust. He needs some physical training.

16 to 23, Bengals on top, end of third.

Browns look pretty bad today at times. But what else is new?

he has a lot more problems than physical. He can’t cover

MIXON .. say goodnight

It would be a total kick in the nutz if when we lose AND they decide to keep Kitchens

Turn out the lights, the season’s over.

toast

Honestly, the players know how much losing to the Bengals could mean for getting a new coaching staff. Tell me it doesn't look like a few of these players are giving half effort.

Schobert even looks awful, but can't blame him. This is his last game as a Brown.

Seriously we have one of if not the worst front 7 in football

And now, the end is near

I just cant see any way they keep Freddie.

Freddie and Dorsey have to go.

Mediocrity cannot be tolerated.

Double digit losses.

Wooohoo!

I think we can kiss the Browns good bye today and I'm hoping Freddie can kiss his job good bye, today.

Careful dorsey can do no wrong remember

Not according to the Homers it's the best dline

There’s no doubt he’s gone

For a team that was playing for the playoffs, you'd think we were the 1-14 team.

For this, they can fire Freddie. This team could not play less inspired than they are now.

Another decade with no season over .500

Congrats obj

the fact we have not resigned Schobert is damn criminal.

We won't find a better LB for a long time. Schobert is a Top 5 MIKE. We don't resign him, I know exactly where he goes..to NE he will be the long time replacement they have been looking for for Teddy Bruschi. Were just flatout ignorant for not resigning him.

We’re worse than last season.

Losers again.

I love it OBJ gets his 1000 yards and then is done.

Got his grand and quits

There is absolutely no way they can keep Freddy into next year.

I believe this with every fiber of my being.

Why Dorsey? Sure not all decisions have worked out but he has helped build other teams, do you really think all his decisions with those other teams have been perfect? I doubt it. It takes time and most every fan thought Freddie was it at the beginning of the season, the fans were just as wrong.

Jury is still out on Baker, he's got talent, just nees better coaching, better OL, and WR's that get open.

Dorsey has made one real bad decision, trading Zeitler. Plus, Dorsey has brought as much, if not more, talent to this team, just because it hasn't worked out yet, I truly believe the expectations were way too high coming into this season.

Lol he had a chance to check out of a play they obviously read and he didn’t

Baker is plain embarrassing with how dumb he is

Baker to Hunt

He’s back in

An Njoku sighting.

Midget doing midget things

OBJ and Landry are so much better than the DB's....

simmer down there Baker, your still down 2 scores

Mayfield showed he still has a pair, even if their in his pocket.

Good job Bake!

Lamar is that you?

Had Chubb wide open.

Sacked

Good run

See Mayfield acting like an idiot because he ran for a first down?

Just shut up and play! your losing!!!

God baker is just straight up trash

If we kick a field goal here. . .

Dear Baker,

The guys with the striped helmets, are not on your team!

John D.

our OL is...I have no words to describe

The fact the bengals came and embarrassed our whole team. Both kitchens and Dorsey can go

Our O line is so bad.

This a train wreck

Baker is so clueless.

LOL!!!!!!

Man he is awful!

FG try .. or go for it?

Fitting for our season.

Problem with shot gun. You can’t get rythym before throwingZ so quick hitters are harder

did he catch it?

O line is horrid

Going for it.

Hilarious.

no its called they called a blitz and sent 6 and one was unblocked

Mayfield needs to get the ball out on his hotread much faster which was Hunt in the flat and he blew it completely because he can't see over his line.

OBJ!!!!!!!

Wow what a play

Damn what a catch

O

B

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That's a TD

That’s what pisses me off about mayfield. He’s not given obj chances to make plays like this more. Manning did

I love it. He was showing passion and emotion. It's not like he did a dance or something.

30-23

How could you make that call? Obviously in.

Kicking it would have been hilarious.

And if they tried a field goal, Freddie would get roasted for that as well.

You wouldn't have gone for it?

Yep. Mayfield was supposed to be the guy that allowed obj and juice to go nuclear. Instead he’s been hesitant to throw those passes all season.

Either D will give up a score here or Mayfield won't be able to lead tying drive.

hell of a catch by OBJ, now imagine when he's truly healthy. Seibert with the XP, a true xmas miracle. lol

Gutsy play. OBJ needs to bring that effort every down when he heals up.

Again. OBJ and Landry are so much better than the Db's, its amazing....

We had to.

I was referring to the 4 and 20 part..

That was freakin' great.

Come on d

Game

Good tackle scho

Play man

Again, I ask you: You wouldn't have gone for it?

Omg that defines our year

Mixon is having a great game. Ugh

Take a seat Redwine

Mixon just trucked red wine

Two dorsey draft picks trucked in same play

Can't cover TEs, can't stop Mixon.

Mack Wilson, and Sheldric Redwine missed tackles on that play.

Nixon has more heart than than the entire Browns team.

typical Browns defense, can't get off the field when they need to make a stop.

They could tell us they were running it before every play and we still wouldn’t be able to stop them.

Redwine got rammed

Redwine has been a total bust.

I like Redwines long term prospects though.

Time is running out.

Too bad we don’t have some time outs due to mayfield being dumb and Freddie being dumber

This is false.

Wilkes and his staff are horrible teachers, haven't taught the Browns defense how to tackle yet.

Answered...

Time has come today

Really no scenario we have a chance to win now without a pick 6

Checked out for a bit. Chubb has 41 yards today and McCaffrey has 26 right now. Henry IS playing today against a Houston team that is taking the day off. He'll need about 175 to go around Chubb which would suck.

[Vquote=s003apr]Redwine has been a total bust.[/quote]

He’s a rookie that got drafted in the fourth round.

Freddie spent the whole off season lecturing to the media how coaches are teachers.

He was so arrogant.

Haslam is going to be furious after this game.

This decision could come before tomorrow.

Bengals need a FG to seal the deal. Don't let me down guys.

Come on D

He could make Dorsey fire Freddie or he may crap can both of them. The prospect of Jimmy at the helm again isn't comforting...

Freddie's arrogance has been on display ALL season long. "I'm the head coach and I'm calling the plays!"

See ya later fat ass. It has NOT been nice knowing you. Good luck selling cars loser.

He’s a rookie that got drafted in the fourth round. [/quote]
He doesn't have the physical tools to play safety in the NFL. Its obvious. He was a reach in the draft and it is obvious to see that even if he is coached up, he will never be good enough to start on a good defense.

This is as a "no brainer" as they come as far as his job security. And that's sad. But well deserved.

He doesn't have the physical tools to play safety in the NFL. Its obvious. He was a reach in the draft and it is obvious to see that even if he is coached up, he will never be good enough to start on a good defense. [/quote]

Disagree.

He's shown enough to develop.

I gotta say...

I was crazy exited when they named Freddy HC. I feel so stupid.

If Dorsey is dumb enough to consider keeping Kitchens he needs to go too. Just another example of arrogance in not being able to admit he made a HORRIBLE choice for this year's head coach.

It is the worst process in the world to judge Kitchens' future on this one game. It literally makes no sense. With that said, if you are using this game to judge if Kitchens should keep his job then he gets fired.

Sometimes bad process yields good results.

Goodnight prince

2 mins left of Browns football this season

There are many here who honestly feel the same way. We got duped and it is embarrassing. Now we are just pissed. But if he is NOT fired hell will break loose.

Worst loss of year. Fitting

Is Freddie's fate now sealed?

Goodbye Freddie.

The Homers are crying now

Baker has had some losses to no name QBs and teams with awful records this year.

Browns are exactly where they were at the end of year 2005, and we're all 14 years older.

What a pathetic year.

They will be playing soft. Just hand off to chubb and let him get his

Field goal is GOOD!

GOODBYE Freddie! GOOD riddance! You suck!

If this loss gets us McCarthy or Rivera, I'm good with it.

LOL...you are kidding, right?

Freddie pulled a bait and switch on everybody.

McDaniels or McCarthy. Has to be one of the two for Baker's sake.

This game cost me $100.

Some arrogant d bag Patriots fan in my office bet me the browns wouldn't win 7 games this year. I jumped at it.

Remarkable.

Some reason I feel this season ends in a fitting turnover

He got his multi-million contract though...

All the Freddie defenders sure got quiet

Rivera maybe, not sure I like McCarthy?

Whoever it MAY be I hope he's a disciplinarian and these guys get worked hard!

THIS IS NOT A FUN WATCH!!!

Baker can’t throw a ball past 15 yards without throwing it 5 feet over their bead

It's okay. We've all been grasping for signs of hope for years and having optimism is sometimes the only thing that keeps us sane as a fanbase.

Yep...he won the lottery. Now he can disappear and sell cars. He wins. Browns lose. Again. See ya later loser.

Screw you baker

Yes it is! LAST game for Freddie Kitchens! It is a great day!

Loser.

See y'all next year

Called it

Baker completes the players coup

2 years in a row Mayfield ends the season with an INT.

Bring in dalton or bridgewater

Glad this waste of a season is over.

They really make me not care about the rest of the league, and the playoffs, super bowl, etc.

I hope they figure it out

What a fitting end to a disappointing season

I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS ZAMPESE, OR AL SAUNDERS

OR TODD HALEY, OR GREGG WILLIAMS, OR EVEN GOD FORBID HUE!


BUT THIS TEAM SURE MISSES SOMEBODY FROM LAST YEAR,

What was Optimism last year

Sure went to fertilizer!!!


FERTILIZER! < That fits. What a let down the final 3 games .

Last pass of the year an interception.

Well if that ain't fitting...

A fitting end to a horrible season. Get to work Dorsey. Can't wait for tomorrow's announcement! Need some good news after this crappy weekend!

All football is over for me for the year.

and the Browns are once again....LOSERS I hope we hear that Freddie is gone by no later than tomorrow, I'm hoping today.

Deshone Kizer must've put on a Baker Mayfield uniform

For Anyone who wasn't watching, ... THAT WAS VICE FREAKIN GRIPS, Jarvis Landry who didn't even jump up or make an attempt on that ball, of that final pass interception.

Dolphins knock the Patriots out of the #2 seed ....... KC wins, while the Pats lose to Miami.

You just never know.

Hahaha no.. that was 100% on baker throwing into quadruple coverage high and deep

Baker still threw a crap ball.

Love it. I work with a bunch of pats fans. They're the worst.

Cant say anything to them, though - as a fan of the worst franchise in the nfl for the last 20 years.

There really is no difference between the two.

You are so right ! I forgot Kizer set a rookie NFL record having missed a couple games as a starter and never having practiced with the first team until after he was forced into action due to injury to the starting QB.

Look - everyone is with you that Baker has been bad this year. Saying this garbage stuff - that he's the same player as Kizer and that Colin Cowherd has always been right about Baker - it's just flat not true & you lose any credibility with any discussion you want to have about BM.

I'm not happy, but I called the pick to end the game. It's what Mayfield does.

I'm not losing any credibility. I have the results. The results are what they are. The results support everything I have said. There is no emotion there.

The emotion comes from people like you who hitched their emotional wagons to Baker and try to explain everything away. And refuse to acknowledge what you are seeing.

And Cowherd has been right about everything he said. The only stuff he's been wrong about was the good stuff he had said about the Baker and the Browns. Like him or not, that's the truth.

I'm sorry - I guess you must debate these things and comment based on statistics. Clearly. Because ANYONE who ever saw Kizer play and Baker play know they are NOTHING alike. Not one, tiny bit. BUT - you carry on!

As for Cowherd who trashes Baker - he said he was at BEST a 3rd round pick .... so please stop lying or do some research.

Lead, baker connected on 4-5 very nice throws well more than 15 yds downfield. He is certainly due some criticism but don’t make crap up.

Ditto. That is the sound of shaking my head for another year. Maybe I drank too much kool-aid, but I expected better. Losing MG hurt, but that is not enough to explain the weekly train wreck this club treated us to. FK is not a HC IMO. This group out played us and out-hustled us today.

Hats off to Chubb.

They played with passion and we didn't. Cinci deserved the win...