Game is on Fox and kicks off at 1:00 at First Energy Stadium.

Browns are favored by 3 and the over/under is 54.

Weather: It's early in the week, but right now the forecast calls for a high of 64 and rain showers w/18 mph winds. Not ideal, but better than the Raider game.

Some stats: Texans giving up around 31 pts per game. They rank dead last in rushing yards allowed per attempt. Their pass defense is also terrible. Offensively, they can give the Browns problems because Watson is elusive and can buy time. The Texans are close to the top yards per game and passing TDs.

My keys to the game:

--The Texans will stack the box. We should be able to light them up in the passing game and then run once they make adjustments.

--Watson is good and he will make some plays. We will have to roll our deep coverage to stop Fuller from beating us deep. That will leave other receivers w/favorable match-ups.

--Houston's OL is horrid. Watson does hold the ball too long. We gotta pressure him, but again, he is good at buying time. Keep him in the pocket and blitz through the A gaps rather than the edges.

--Baker can not turn the ball over more than once.

Prediction: I am not good at predicting games, but the Browns are much too good to lose to the Texans unless we turn it over. The Texans D is even worse than ours. They give up about 160 on the ground alone. Their secondary is also bad and so is their OL. David Johnson might be out w/a concussion. The Browns should cover rather easily.

Nice synopsis ... I haven’t seen them much but know Watson is dynamic and Fuller/Cooks are explosive.

But their primary RB is out and Duke is their guy now ... and their OL is not good.

It will probably come down to us just limiting turnovers and keeping Watson in the pocket

The only time I picked the browns to win was against the raiders, and of course we lost. Soooo i suppose i should just stick with "if it aint broke dont fix it"

Texans 34
Browns 24

This game is huge in determining how the rest of our season will go. I think the Texans might be better than their record indicates. Their losses are vs. the Chiefs, Packers, Steelers, Ravens, Titans and Vikings. On the other side of the coin, their two wins were vs. the Jags. We are coming off a bye, fairly healthy. We are in the back half of the season with a relatively easy road home. If we are on the right track, this is where we must find our stride, beginning with this game. No more "learning the playbook", "new players trying to fit into a new system" type excuses. Those things should be ironed out. If we lose, we can forget about the playoffs and a lot of questions will be raised.

Good point about the Texans schedule. That's pretty remarkable.

I'm sure they are looking at this game as a turning point to straighten out their season after that brutal first half schedule.

no doubt. They have played some good teams and have offensive talent ... they have a good chance to beat us.

I anticipate a close game

I think the key, for us, will be players, somehow, getting more comfortable and playing better in our defense. The D has to scrounge together some sort of mediocre performance. Ex. they might still get run over, but are able to get a couple turnovers and give the offense a short field as well as forcing a few punts.

I think the offense will return to form and we'll be able to get OBJ's absence sorted out, in terms of strategy adjustments.

What's crazy is that the polarity of their schedule. They have lost to some very good teams. On the hand, their only two victories were both against the Jags.

Cleveland Browns vs. Houston Texans Matchup Preview (11/15/20): Betting Odds, Depth Charts, Live Stream (Watch Online)
By Ryan Taylor | Nov 10, 2020, 1:52pm

The Houston Texans will take on the Cleveland Browns in an AFC South vs. North matchup in week 10. The Cleveland Browns are coming off of their bye week in week nine after losing to the Las Vegas Raiders in week 8. The Houston Texans are coming off of their second win of the season against their division rivals Jacksonville Jaguars. For odds movement and full matchup history, visit the Cleveland Browns vs. Houston Texans Matchup Page.

TV Schedule
Date: Sunday, November 15th, 2020
Time: 1:05 PM ET
Location: FirstEnergy Stadium – Cleveland, Ohio
TV Coverage: FOX



Injuries:
Cleveland Browns: Questionable: Austin Hooper (appendix), Jacob Phillips (knee), Wyatt Teller (calf), Vincent Taylor (concussion), Myles Garrett (knee), IR: Baker Mayfield (COVID)
Houston Texans: Questionable: Kyle Emanuel (concussion), Charles Omenihu (leg), David Johnson (concussion), Senio Kelemete (concussion), Brennan Scarlett (forearm), IR (COVID): Jake Martin, Max Scharping, Whitney Mercilus, Dylan Cole

Cleveland Browns Analysis
Cleveland Browns
The Cleveland Browns are 5-3 for a tough third spot in the AFC North behind the undefeated Steelers and the 6-2 Ravens. The Browns are coming off of their bye week this week and will take on the Texans in a must-win situation to stay in the hunt. The Texans’ weak defense and offensive struggles should be taken advantage of by the Browns next week. However, they are still waiting to see if Baker Mayfield will be able to come off of the COVID IR list, in which case he may be paired up with Nick Chubb in the backfield after he was on IR since week four.

The run game for the Cleveland Browns is their biggest offensive strength this season. They are top ten in the NFL in rushing attempts and yards led by Kareem Hunt’s 529 yards, which is 10th in the NFL. Their offensive line has been terrific in the run game with 4.87 adjusted line yards, which is third in the NFL, and their 1.59 average 2nd level yards value, which leads the league. With the return of Nick Chubb this week, their run game will improve dramatically with two healthy elite running backs. The Texans are the second most rushed against team, giving up 5.1 yards per carry to opponents and nearly 160 rushing yards per game, the worst in the NFL.

With the loss of Odell Beckham Jr., this passing offense has received quite a shock. Even before, the Browns are a below-average passing team behind Baker Mayfield. Baker has thrown for just over 1,500 yards this season with a 15:7 TD: INT ratio. He is below average in almost every category except for touchdowns. The Browns have just two receivers in the top 100 for yards with Jarvis Landry and Odell Beckham Jr. Without OBJ, they will be left with Landry, Rashard Higgins, and tight end Hunter Bryant and David Njoku for the rest of the season. With Houston’s starting corner Bradley Roby out next week, the hope is they can take advantage of the passing game as well as the run game.

The Cleveland Browns defense has disappointingly allowed nearly 30 points per game and 371 yards per game to their opponents, but they have a lot of solid players helping out their defense. Myles Garrett is tied with Aaron Donald with 9 total sacks on the season for the best in the league. Denzel Ward and Terrence Mitchell have combined for nearly 20 passes defended, both of which rank in the top ten amongst all defenders. The Houston Texans have the ability to score the ball, especially with deep threats Will Fuller and Brandin Cooks. Safeties Ronnie Harrison Jr. and Andrew Sendejo will be key in defending the open field next week.

The Browns are in a tough spot in their division, with two of the best teams in football competing high in the AFC. The Browns will need to try to stay competitive with the Ravens to have a shot at the playoffs. Houston is certainly one of the easier teams they will have on their schedule, making this a pretty important game for them. If they can succeed in the run game and contain Deshaun Watson, they will have a great shot at winning this game.

Cleveland Browns Depth Chart
QB: Baker Mayfield
RB1: Nick Chubb
RB2: Kareem Hunt
WR1: Odell Beckham Jr.
WR2: Jarvis Landry
WR3: Rashard Higgins
TE: Austin Hooper

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Houston Texans Analysis
Houston Texans
The Houston Texans are third in the AFC South with a 2-6 record on the season. The Texans’ only two wins this season are against their division rivals, the Jacksonville Jaguars. However, they played competitively against the Tennessee Titans and the Pittsburgh Steelers this season, who are two of the best teams in the NFL. They will take on the Cleveland Browns on the road next week.

Deshaun Watson is really the only thing keeping this team alive on offense outside of their other tremendous skill players. Even though the Texans pass the ball near the bottom of the league comparatively, Deshaun Watson still averages 280 yards per game and two passing touchdowns, which both ranks top ten in the league. Last week, he put up almost exactly that with 281 yards and touchdowns while running 10 times for 50 yards. Even though Jacksonville gave them a scare behind Jake Luton, the Texans held on to win.

Their starting running back, David Johnson, suffered a concussion last week against the Jaguars that may keep him out next game. Even though the Texans have one of the worst run-blocking lines in the league, David Johnson is still averaging 4.0 yards per carry and is top 20 in the league in yards. Last week, backup Duke Johnson put up 41 yards off of 16 carries for one rushing touchdown along with four receptions for 32 yards. He will be key against the Browns’ rushing defense that is near the top ten for yards allowed to running backs with 106 yards per game.

The Texans’ defense withholds one of the worst defensive DVOA ratings in the league with a 9.7% value that places them at 28th in the league in that category. Zach Cunningham and J.J Watt are the only two members giving them hope on defense. Cunningham is seventh in the league in total tackles with 78, while Watt has put up four sacks on the year. They will need to focus their energy on the run game to try to keep the Browns out of the endzone.

The Texans are heading in the right direction after relieving Bill O’Brien of his duties weeks ago. However, their offensive line has been a huge issue this season, allowing the mobile Deshaun Watson to be sacked 24 times this season. Not to mention, their defense has been playing subpar for them this year too. They will catch a break without Odell Beckham Jr. playing against them next week, but the presence of Nick Chubb will certainly be tough to handle. They will need to control the run game on defense while attacking the passing game on offense in a quick manner against the Browns’ extremely efficient defensive line.

Houston Texans Depth Chart
QB: Deshaun Watson
RB1: David Johnson
RB2: Duke Johnson
WR1: Will Fuller
WR2: Brandin Cooks
WR3: Randall Cobb
TE: Darren Fells

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Betting Corner Browns -3
Spread: +/- 3
Moneyline: Browns -165, Texans +145
Over/Under: 54

Prediction
Spread: Browns -3
Moneyline: Browns -165
Over/Under: u54

The Cleveland Browns have been exceeding their expectations this season with a 5-3 record, and they could seriously use this win to stay in the hunt for the playoffs. The Browns are in a difficult division, and the Texans offer them an easier game to take a win from. I would take the Browns in this one for the spread and the money line.

While both of these teams possess solid skill players who can score the ball effectively, the Browns’ insistence on running the ball makes me point towards the under in this game. Especially if they control the Texans’ offense, this should not be a high scoring game.

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Love/Hate Fantasy Picks
Love
Duke Johnson
Duke Johnson has not seen much fantasy action this season, but if David Johnson cannot play this week, I love Duke as a waiver wire RB2 streamer. Last week he put up 15.3 fantasy points without David in the backfield. Even though the Browns have a solid defense against the run, he will be important to their offense to try to grab a win. Johnson is a solid RB2 streamer or flex option for week ten.

Hate
Will Fuller
Will Fuller has been unbelievable this season, averaging 16.4 fantasy points per week and has gotten in the endzone each game in the last six games. There really aren’t any fantasy players I hate this week because both defenses are not great. But, Fuller’s matchup with Denzel Ward could be troublesome to his numbers, considering the Browns will probably also get to Deshaun Watson a lot during the game. Fuller will probably still be a great and inevitable fantasy starter but just may not exceed his expectations. [/quote]

https://www.lineups.com/articles/clevela...m-watch-online/

Thanks for the info. In terms of fantasy ... gosh, I’d play Fuller or Cooks if I played this weekend ... they could get loose overtop with our safeties

Good keys to the game. Hope we bring more pressure on defense. Good game to play that a bit more aggressively. Running outside can help us. Driving the ball on the ground can really help us by giving them less time and opportunity. We need get points!

Romeo!

Various takes from media outlets across the land:

The Texans are one of the teams we've historically had trouble with. We are 3-7 lifetime against them. When we play a team that we've had trouble with we usually lose. The Broncos, Vikings Chargers and Lions also come to mind. I don't know why but it seems to be the case. Baltimore is another but that is understandable because they are usually very good. Pittsburgh the same. We need a win badly on Sunday to stay in the playoff race I hope we get one!!

To be Fair.... we've historically had trouble with every team because we've historically been very bad against every team. Those teams are not these teams; that's all that matters.

We have a history of making the easy games look like hard wins, if we do manage to pull out a win. I think this should be us all day, going away. If we manage to pull it out, I expect a nail biter.

Yeah, we rarely make anything look easy. Even the games where we blow the opponent out, we only do it at the outset and then we let them back in the game and nearly give it away to them.

Funny and sad at the same time.

Granted, the Texans have only been in the league since 2002 and we really haven't had any good teams in that time frame. However, we have had trouble beating the Lions since we came into the league in 1950. We've had trouble beating the Vikings when they came into the league in 1961. We had good teams in the 50's and 60's and still had trouble beating them. When the leagues merged in 1970 we had problems with the Broncos and Chargers and we had some good teams in the early 70's and mid to late 80's. Our lifetime record against Detroit and Denver is especially bad no matter how good or bad a team we had.

no reason Browns should lose this game...

Texans defense is trash... they are awful against the run and their secondary sucks.... they will have Roby back this week who is probably their best DB... they are good on offense but typically hot and cold... Deshaun is good but the OL is not good and Watson holds the ball too long... they have some playmakers mainly at WR... I'd expect them to put points up... but we should win this game...

Just checked the weather.

90% chance of rain with wind to gust up to 40 mph.

Throwing the ball in those conditions is very difficult.

My fear is Watson as a play maker to run. He is a guy that will never give up. He will do everything he can to win.
In these conditions him running could be a real problem.

We have been terrible when mobile quarterbacks run.

It will be imperative that we run the ball and control clock.

These conditions can make a game ugly with turnovers.

1. Fear the Watson. I always thought he was exceptional and he has been all season. We have to keep him off the field.

On O we have to see a resurgence of our Running game keeping the Texans Defense on the field of play. This will tire out their defense and the obvious keep Watson off the field and hopefully we can pull of some 3-7 and OUTs.

jmho Teller and Chubb are big time additions!

I'm not feeling good about this game. I feel like we are in one of those transitional phases where other teams have exposed our defense for what it is and our offense really sputtered in the Raiders game. Hope I'm wrong, but that's just how I feel.

At the same time, I feel like the Texans are not as bad as their record indicates, and Watson is a dynamic QB that we typically struggle with.

Completely understand.

It is too bad that the weather will be a big factor. My fear is Watson running for first downs.

Watson on qb draws.

This guy is capable of beating you.

If we try to pass like wind doesn't matter. It is a recipe for turnovers.

Wet balls also lead to turnovers. Defenses will be going hard for the ball.

If the field gets sloppy it will like the Kentucky Derby when the tracks turns muddy and mudder horse takes the prize.

This could easily be a one score low scoring game.

Mistakes will cost.

Chubb’s back, we’ll be running the rock.

Houston, you have a problem.

I'm with you.

If weather is a factor, I hope we can successfully employ our game plan that we utilized against the Bengals: Chubb, Chubb, more Chubb, Hunt.

The difference this time is that the Texans will likely expect that and give us 8-in-the-box looks. If we have to throw, I hope Baker rises up and I hope our receivers don't let him down like they did the last game.

If I was Huston , I would do what every other team has done --- Use the middle of the field , pass or run. Watson could run wild.

In the Bengal game we won throwing the ball.

With the expected weather. I doubt that will be the formula.

This will be like the Raider game. The Line of Scrimmage is where this game will play out.

The team that wins the LOS will win this game.

So we have an advantage on offense. And a weakness on defense. The Raiders beat us up front. They drove us back at the line. Houston has that film. They will attack the DL. We will have to be able to win there.

Unless the Browns figure out how to stop teams and get off the field on defense. Teams will continue to go there.

Like a hitter who can not hit curve ball.

If we can win on the DL? This game will be ours.

I think that this will be the first year in I don't know how long where coming out of the bye will actually help us. I think we will get healthier across the roster and will come out a little more focused and invigorated. I don't think we'll look quite as helpless as we did vs Raiders.

To clarify for others, I know you were talking about the first Bengal game because Chubb did not even play in the second game.

Things could change, but the weather doesn't look to be nearly as bad as the Raider game. Temps in the upper 50s. Chance of rain 50% at kickoff and decreasing as the day wears on. Down to 28% in the 4th quarter. Winds from 22 to 25 mph.

Teams don't mind throwing in the rain. It's the wind that causes havoc. It looks like the wind will be a factor, but not a huge factor.

I agree w/you that the Texans will load the box and try to stop the run. Combine that w/Houston's secondary being trash and I think our passing game must take advantage of the situation.

I also don't think Houston's OL can push our DL around. They stink, too. We should win this game unless Watson goes off and we turn the ball over multiple times.

Oh, here is a link for the weather forecast: http://nflweather.com/en/game/2020/week-10/texans-at-browns

Glad to see you posting.
Question how good due you think this offensive line gets 1 year
from now.

The Browns OL? I think we already have one of very best OLs in football right now. We should be even better next year as Wills matures.

Thanks for clarifying Vers. You are correct. I meant the first Bengals game. Can't believe we've played them twice already.

Excellent Thread, Like the Raiders Game it will be difficult to throw the deep ball with accuracy if the weather is what they say. Ball control with our running game and utilizing our TE's to have time of posession advantage will be a huge key. I want to keep Watson on the sidelines as much as possible. This game aint gonna be pretty but we need to win like this if we are gonna be a good team. Special teams will have to make a play this week. I see this as a close game, turnovers will determine this game.

Yes and the D will have to make a stop or 2 unlike the Raiders game.

Agree, I am glad we will be as healthy and have more players available. I think we were pretty thin on the rotations in that game especially at DT. If David Johnson is out then we just have to focus on Duke. I like Duke but at about 205 he isnt the move the pile kinda guy like the raiders RB's did.

I was surprised to see how little teams are stacking the box against us on run plays. Before his injury Nick Chubb faced an eight man (or more) box 24.56% of the time (11th in the league) and Kareem Hunt has only faced an eight man (or more) box 19.13% of the time (28th in the league).

https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/rushing#percent-eight-defenders

I'm betting teams will be more willing to stack the box now that OBJ is out (I would throw out the Raider game because of the weather) but they weren't really doing it all that much before this game.

I’d expect it this weekend as well ... the forecast looks every bit as bad as the Raiders game

Jake Luton, a rookie 6th round pick who made his first start for the Jax last week, threw for over 300 yards against Houston last week. Their secondary is horrendous and we should be able to exploit it especially since they will be gearing up to stop our running game.

It's supposed to rain with 50mph wind gusts.

I posted a link to the weather forecast yesterday.

I thought I saw a pretty crowded LoS during the 2nd Cinci game.

Latest weather update: http://nflweather.com/en/game/2020/week-10/texans-at-browns

A couple of weeks ago, I saw that no team has faced more 7 men in the box fronts than the Browns.

yeah, that looks like Swiss cheese secondaries won’t be as big of an issue then. Keeping Watson in the pocket is the key to a a win IMO

I guess we interpret weather forecasts differently. The conditions are not good, but in my opinion they are not all that bad. Of course, as we all know, the weather can change in a blink of an eye along the lake front.

I will say this. I think it's wishful thinking to believe those weather conditions will stop Watson from shredding us.

Yeah, I mean he’s so dangerous. I’ve never played football so maybe I’m wrong, but I always assumed high wind was the #1 detractor for the passing game ... and maybe that changes too, like you said

Is it just high wind, or is it gusting wind? In between mentions of groppel, they were making good points about the wind, and how it would swirl. Not only was it hard enough to kick in high winds, but the wind coming into the stadium would be inconsistent. Then cut to mentions of the 'Dawson Flag'.

If the wind is similar to what it was during the Las Vegas game, I hope that we can somehow manipulate things so that we don't have to go in the direction where the wind wreaked havoc last game. We had to deal w/the bad end during the LV game in the 4th quarter. We saw how the two kicks were moved from right to left and I also noticed that a few of the drops we had were when we were going in the direction where the wind moved balls from right to left.

I know most teams defer so they can get the ball to start the third quarter. Do we have to hope Houston wins the toss or can we do something to ensure we don't have to deal w/the wind in the 4th quarter?

It's our yard. We should be using the weather to our advantage, not fighting it like the other team. I guess that's what you get when most of the coaches/team haven't been here long enough to learn exactly how the weather affects play in the stadium. I'd bet a few conversations about the weather with folks like Bernie, JT and Phil Dawson would reap rewards.

j/c...

Seeing our offense so green/blue is good ... but it sucks seeing our defense (especially the depth) so bad

They are football coaches. It's common sense what to do in bad weather conditions. If we the fans know what to do they should too. It's their job.

Did I read that right? Is Hilliard our QB3?

You did not read it right. He's under the third team column and it has "RB" next to his name.

That's just because he is defined by the fact that he's a RB. He's clearly listed as QB3 in the chart above. *Not saying he would be under center if disaster strikes just reading the chart.

It doesn't matter at all but he's just listed there because there is not another slot for running backs. And even if he was, which he isn't, it wouldn't matter because this is just a chart put together by ChadP71 Running Dirty.

During the broadcast of the Steeler game the announcers said that Jarvis Landry is our emergency third QB.

Lol. Just busting your chops bro. I would think Landry would clearly be QB3. I don't think Hilliard has ever played QB at any level. He's 0-1 with an INT in the NFL, on a Freddie Kitchens gadget-play-gone-wrong.

Nothing beats experience and practice for playing in those conditions.

JC...

56°

RealFeel® 46°

Latest WX forcasts for Cleveland...

Wind: WSW at 33 mph

Wind Gusts: 51 mph

Humidity: 59%

Dew Point: 38° F

Cloud Cover: 89%

Visibility: 10 mi

Probability of Precipitation: 25%

link

Obviously passing the ball is going to rough with gusting winds like that. You just don't know when gusts come. Plus the winds swirl there to boot.


Probably need to be conservative. Protect the ball. Throwing in gusting winds like that is begging for turnovers.

We have Teller and Chubb back so run the ball. Maybe short field throws and screens. Anything with much air will be difficult.

We should do to them like the Raiders did to us.

Let's not forget that it was several years into his tenure here at CLE before Phil Dawson placed his 'cheat flag.' No substitute for hard-earned knowledge & wisdom.

They'll figure it out.

Tomorrows pretty easy to figure out. Run the ball and quick short passes. Oh and stop them from running it.

We have reached the point where folks are making excuses for a certain someone even before games are played. But yeah, let's draft a LBer w/our first pick. LOL

I can’t agree with your last post. People pointing out 50 mph wind gusts isn’t making excuses. It’s pointing out facts. Tomorrow is going to be another tough day on the QBs. Mayfield did fine last week and I expect him to fine again tomorrow.

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I see what's going on here. Have at it.

How did that logic work for us against the Raiders brainchild?

Dude, there is nothing going on here. I just have a difference of opinion.

No problem. I will stop making the thread. Sick of my threads being hijacked. The weather might be a factor and needs to be mentioned, but it isn't the only factor. Anyone who follows bone's posts knows exactly what he is doing and yet....you call me out and ignore his crap.

It didn't. That's why I made that post.

Something might figure in as well. Knowing is never enough. Acting on what you know is vital. Dawson's action was brilliant and reasoned.

It really was, Bard.
Thanks for making that point.

When I discovered this li'l tidbit, it just made me smile.
At a stadium like ours, the 12th man can be the Dawg Pound, but it can also be the team's knowledge of its own home turf.

For years, PIT has taken advantage of its awful turf.
DEN has taken advantage of its altitude above Sea Level.
Dawson's "cheat flag" should have never become public knowledge... but stuff like this never stays quiet forever.

______________


I don't know about You, but for me- this stuff simply adds to the drama of The Story.


Can't deny it- I LOVE stuff like this...

Oh I get it. Rain and high winds and I say run the ball in a game thread and I am making excuses for Baker ok vers.

I won't bother since you know weather.

I will add I don't make excuses if you follow my threads.

All I have said in regards to Mayfield is I will wait to see how he plays this season.

I will not post on a vers thread because he is all knowing and I am a hijacker. Pound salt big shot.

I did not say weather can't be a factor, but there are other things to talk about. I don't think either team is going to run it on every single play. Being effective in the passing game is not out of the question.

Also, if is all about the running game like you say on every single post, then we should destroy them. We have an excellent OL and their OL stinks. Both of our two backs are far superior to Duke.

It should be no contest. LOL


There is more to the game than just the weather.

with chubb back theres no reason we should lose... TExnas have a horrible run defense.... just keep pounding the rock

don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows

Browns are the better team and should win today by 10 or more.

We should be able to run the ball on them.

jc...

If the Browns offense can establish the run, the play action pass could do some damage.

The Browns receivers will need to adjust to the weather and aggressively go after the ball. They should not be expecting perfect passes if the weather is as predicted below.

Cleveland afternoon forecast for Nov. 15...

Wind: WSW at 33 mph

Wind Gusts: 51 mph

Humidity: 58%

Dew Point: 38° F

Cloud Cover: 89%

Visibility: 9 mi

Probability of Precipitation: 54%
link

I was just gonna post the forecast. It seems I'm always a little too late to the party here.

Stop. You are hijacking the thread and making an excuse for Baker.

damn

What kind of forecast gives you the frigging dew point but not the temperature?

Anyway, I think you have to show a willingness and ability to throw, even if only short and intermediate routes, or they are going to stack the box and reduce your running game's effectiveness significantly.

bone...just put your fingers in your ears...


Just to pass on some updated news...down the road from First Energy Field they clocked the wind at 71 mph. Should be at the stadium about NOW!

link-71 mph @ Sandusky

Reminds me of one year, "others" poked fun of our robotic weather forecaster and our 46 foot waves on lake Erie.

The enemy had ... it was only supposed to take a couple days to take the island.

NAILED IT...!

Just say'n, watching the wx radar yesterday morning and experiencing what the wx front was like going through our area about an hour or so before it reached the Browns stadium area...I figured the wx was going to get a bit "extreme" right around kickoff time.

It was a nasty change of wx conditions...delaying the kickoff was a good decision.

The big front and winds ripped through here right at 1pm. I know because my neighbor called me out to help move some stuff just before kickoff. While we were moving things, it all came through and we had to duck into his garage to get out of the wind and hail... then, I went back to my house that was now without power. I had to watch the game on my phone with the NFL app and burned through my entire data plan, lol

prp..such a quick and drastic change in weather conditions. Watching the waves on lake Erie you could see how dangerous the conditions were.

We had some dead trees that were blown down and we lost a couple shingles off the house, but thankfully, our power stayed on. We are surrounded by fields that would brake the wind some...but First Energy Field didn't have anything to serve as a wind break once the wind direction shifted from the South to the Southwest to the West.

Welcome to Ohio weather...

Who's rankings are those?

One thing Smith LB has some really good plays wish he was younger. But I can hope that he will end up teaching the kids cause Smith knows the game! Oh and Mack is not loved by these raters, I was surprised with their low score. Also was wondering why Garrett was not Blue like Teller was.

PFF grades

Wilson played about 36 or so snaps and had two tackles..