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Inactives should be out soon

The following players will be inactive for today's game against the Eagles.

WR Taywan Taylor

RB Dontrell Hilliard

CB Robert Jackson

S Jovante Moffatt

LB Tae Davis

DE Joe Jackson

EXPECTED LINEUP CHANGES

Porter Gustin starts at DE for Myles Garrett

GAME CAPTAIN

LB Sione Takitaki

Garrett, T Chris Hubbard and FB Andy Janovich are out and are currently on the reserve/COVID-19 list.

November is definitely saying hi to the browns and their opponents this year.

I can’t remember three straight games like this weather

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

I can’t remember three straight games like this weather

Me either. Even expected bad weather games in the past turned out the actual games would be mild.

After Baker's stats are minimal in yet another win in bad weather he will get knocked all week.

Chubb/Hunt

Chubb and hunt need about 20-22 carries a piece

The rain is really coming down

Originally Posted By: GratefulDawg

I love that!

Drop

We come out empty ... dropped pass and/or bad pass

Gotta put that on him better

COME ON BOYS

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

We come out empty ... dropped pass and/or bad pass

Yea, it could have been too high.(?)

Was that overthrown or a drop?

Looks like offsides

Coming out flat and uninspired already

Originally Posted By: myka

Was that overthrown or a drop?

Drop

Talk about a freaking awful first possession

Oh come on

Why are we throwing

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

Originally Posted By: myka

Was that overthrown or a drop?

Drop

Thanks, looked away for a moment. Dissapointing

Baker is good on the fake snap count making the other team jump.

What a waste

so our game plan is to pass...in this weather???

I hate everything about that drive . Someone go and smack stefanski in the head. Pathetic

Let’s see if the D can sniff Wentz without Myles

Off the mark with all 3 throws. Got to get better

Come on Defense!!!!

darn it

Ugh

No Pressure at all

And Harrison shaken up.

Harrison injured

We came out flat again

Eagles going to win pretty easy if these drives are any indication on which team actually came to play

LOL dude slipped and fell so our guy celebrates like he had something to do with it.

Getting their tails kicked early.

Not a good start here

We look like we don't want to be out there.

They're doing to us what we should've done to them

Feels like Raiders game again so far

Originally Posted By: tastybrownies

We look like we don't want to be out there.

same as the raiders game

Looks like Harrison may have broke collar bone or hurt shoulder

Originally Posted By: myka

They're doing to us what we should've done to them

Feels like Raiders game again so far

i hated our first play .. it set the tone IMO

Looks like another game we don’t force a single punt

Originally Posted By: slick

Looks like Harrison may have broke collar bone or hurt shoulder

We can’t have nice things.

Eagles' no huddle is working, defense is having trouble adjusting.

Geez we can’t stop the run again with one guy out on the d line?

This defense looks autrocious.
it's 2 minutes in

Somebody tell the Browns defense, that the game started!

This looks like it's going to be a real bad day.

Dang they play like this they'll lose by 30

People forget that without Garrett we cant stop the run either

Worst front 7

Defense is getting methodically gashed

we may have the worst D in the league without Garrett

Can we fire Joe Woods?

This is not even a Close Matchup.

They're doing what we wanna do on offense.

Stefanski has been a failure getting this team up

Originally Posted By: tastybrownies

Can we fire Joe Woods?

No. That's insane.

Fumble .. might be ours

Not a worse tackling defense in the nfl

Defensive line getting pushed out of the way with the utmost of ease

Our ball thanks goodness

turnover!!!!

Fumble Thank you

Need about 5 of those today

FUMBLEROOSKIE!!

FUMBLE

wooooooo we needed that BADLY

Thank god, huge . Now run the damn. All

well maybe thats why we might be passing more, so our runners won't fumble?

Don’t come out in an empty backfield please

Good awareness by Karl Joseph to leave the tackle attempt and to hunt that ball down!

Originally Posted By: boofers20

well maybe thats why we might be passing more, so our runners won't fumble?

Based on our 3 passes so far we should risk the run.

BROWNS GET A FUMBLE RECOVERY ON THEIR OWN 5 YARD LINE.
REFS SAY BROWNS BALL!

Oh, man, They better figure out how to make something of this,
because the D was getting blown off the ball several plays in a row.

Elliott forced it, Karl Joseph recovered it.

Gonna be tough, tough sledding

despite the fumble, the D does not look good without Garrett, the Iggles just ran through them like they weren't on the field. Need to do better and stop Philly's run game, you know what they're gonna do.

Not gonna be able to run the football

Pass it deep!

I mean, just no respect for Baker

You have to get Mayfield somebody better than
KHADERAL HODGE!
It's a wonder this team won 6.

Their dline is 100x better than our oline. This is going to be a loss if we can’t figure it out

They geared up to stop the run for sure

Thank goodness hodge

Yes

Nice pass Baker!

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

I mean, just no respect for Baker

Gotta earn respect

Good run chubb

So much for running it down their throats X-x

There we go

Baker sneak for a 1st down

Keep them running sideline to sideline

Khadarel HOdge, plays guitar on his

mother loving 4TH CATCH OF THE SEASON!!!

He ought to be happy he's even collecting a check!

They are literally bringing all 11 guys within 8 yards

Landry

Our o line needs to man up

Bitonio and wills getting owned

LANDRY WITH ZERO TD'S ON THE YEAR

and a BIG PASS TO HIGGINS!!

Higgins

YES!!!!!!!!!!

Geez, who needs the run game suddenly?

Need 7

Ok, Baker with some accuracy. Better

To the 16,

Hunt for two, 2nd and long on the 15

Nice

That should loosen the d up

PI

Flag on them

Hollywood he should be more involved.

Flag for sure

HIGGY!!!

If that had hit him in stride might've been a TD

I’d keep running it, but it’s gonna be tough

Awful awful

Baker!!!!

Wide open horrible throw

Originally Posted By: CapCity Dawg

Ok, Baker with some accuracy. Better

This post did not age well

That shouldn't have been PI lol we got away with one there

Dang, # 12 for the Browns almost caught that after Bryant kicked it back into the air,

First and goal, 2nd and goal at the 1

after the pass interference.
3rd and goal after the Hooper can't jump high enough, was open.

Come on bake

Terrible

What a crap throw

Qb holding us back

TOUCHDOWN BROWNS!!!!

Guess we do need the run game. Sheesh. Finally!

PHEW TD

WOW, Baker missed Hooper by a mile, that's a mistake you just can't make as a QB

TD!!!

HUNT TD!!

Short

No touchdown. This goes on baker for missing that pass

Looked short. Crap.

No TD?

It’s coming back.

Nope, no TD

That looks short

Hard to Overturn

Oh no....

They might not get this.

Left side of the line blows

It's sad we couldn't score from 1 yard out against the lowly Eagles.

Originally Posted By: slick

No touchdown. This goes on baker for missing that pass

Quoted for truth. Missing 2 actually. Had Bryant open as well.

It’s not even close

TD all the way

dang, hunt needs to lean there to be ready to extend the ball arm after being hit, I know easier said than done but that's important on that type of play there

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

Hard to Overturn

Except for all the film.

Baker just cost us a TD, Hunt is short.

I dont know why we have Hunt in at the goal line instead of Chubb

Once again not having a decent qb comes back and bites us

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

Left side of the line blows

Bitinio seems to be struggling thus far today, then again he may be Fletcher Cox is incredibly hard...though I'm not sure whom he lined up with.

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

I dont know why we have Hunt in at the goal line instead of Chubb

Yes, for real, this coaching staff makes weird personnel decisions

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

I dont know why we have Hunt in at the goal line instead of Chubb

Only reason I think is perhaps the pass catching threat.

Baker missed the TD chance unfortunately

Dang it

95 yard drive with no points

Momentum killer.

Kareem Hunt was the ball carrier, left elbow came down,
ball not extended in the right hand, held in close to chest

then extends arm over line,

Refs say no Td.

Lol hunt is every bit as good as chubb, in fact hunt actually breaks more tackles than chubb . Love chubb but let’s stop pretending hunt is a scrub

Their OL gets way more push than ours there

Baker missing a high school read and throw is the bigger issue

Might as well turn this one off

The Browns are going to lose by
flippin 40

AGGGGHHH!!!

screw it.

If we had Garrett I wouldn't be as upset cuz we'd be setting up for a safety, but now they probably just run it

Lol cant stop them.....

I see all the boo birds are in here ragging on Baker... Oh well. That was a good drive either way.

Crap crap

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Their OL gets way more push than ours there

The truth, we seem much more finesse anymore.

I've seen enough of baker.

Exactly, I've seen this game before.

All day

We get zero pressure right now, which is expected

Absolutely pathetic play by the "franchise" QB.

Deserves every bit of criticism he gets.

3rd string QBs don't miss those throws.

Baker missed 2 TD's man he has to get those despite the weather

Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg

I see all the boo birds are in here ragging on Baker... Oh well. That was a good drive either way.

Baker missed 2 wide open players for TDs. They aren't boo birds for pointing out the truth.

I like Baker, but no need to ignore reality.

Why give so much cushion to their receivers?

Baker playing like he doesn't want that second contract.

Originally Posted By: myka

Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg

I see all the boo birds are in here ragging on Baker... Oh well. That was a good drive either way.

Baker missed 2 wide open players for TDs. They aren't boo birds for pointing out the truth.

I like Baker, but no need to ignore reality.

Exactly, the one to Hooper was just awful. Hoop even tried to contort his body for it...still wasn't close to him.

Doesn't understand the definition of "touch".

Originally Posted By: Bird

Why give so much cushion to their receivers?

On that last catch their receiver pushed off a bit.

32 division 2 players on the Browns 84 man roster,

Not counting the good ones, Trettor and Hunt.

THEY'LL NEVER COMPETE!

every year, every freakin year.

I guarantee you, they not only lose today, they lose by 16 plus!

This isn't even a contest, they look like
the team looks like they don't have directions to their destination, and they don't know how to read the map!

Originally Posted By: Bird

Why give so much cushion to their receivers?

It's our scheme

The fact we didn’t do anything at deadline to fix this defense is criminal. Everyone knew it wasn’t a good defense and had a ton of holes. Another season of false hope and sitting on our hands waiting for our Super Bowl the draft where we can get stellar players like taki taki

Yeah, and truth be told Baker’s completion to Higgins could have been a TD

Our defense is so bad

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

95 yard drive with no points

Only the Browns.

I'm watching the game today and am already sick to my stomach. Baker already has missed 3 throws 2 of which should have been TD's and our D can't stop them. Shaping up to be another long frustrating afternoon.

Lol amazing how one player being out changes everything

Zero pressure

Wentz looking like all pro

Yeah we are losing by atleast 2tds

Harrison is getting torched by that TE

THE BROWNS DEFENSE IS A WELCOME MAT!

Browns get a pick 6 as I type that ^, with their terrible defense.

So, What? they're going to lose 59-7??

See! see what could be, if they only knew

HOW TO ASEMBLE A MOTHER LOVING ROSTER!!
AFTER 26 YEARS IN THE LEAGUE SINCE 99.
BUT THEY DON'T!!

They'll still never compete, up two turnovers, a pick 6 or not.
the year is sover, the season is over,

it's bleak, BLEAK! Man, why'd they get my hopes up,

Being a fan of the Browns is like living with an addict in my opinion.

I HAVE ZERO HOPES FOR THE REMAINDER OF THIS GAME,

LOOK!
at the indicators.

If this game comes down to QB play, and it probably will, we are screwed.

TOUCHDOWN BROWNS!!!!

We aren’t even trying to generate pressure

TAKI TAKI HAHAHAHA

Yea, baby!!!!!

What you Taki bout!!

Haha I’m dying laughing

TAKI TAKI TD

Ward with the Pressure

TAKITAKI

Well that was unexpected lol

7-0 BROWNS!!!

Originally Posted By: CalDawg

If this game comes down to QB play, and it probably will, we are screwed.

This did not age well.

Talk about something I never thought we’d see

Originally Posted By: BarkinMad

This D without Garrett is dogsh^t.

Where the hell have people been?

Even with Garrett it's dog crap.

Originally Posted By: Swish

Harrison is getting torched by that TE

May be wise to let Joseph play until Harrison is healthier...Just speculating but he may have a bone bruise in that knee, as his gait was off.

Should be 14-0

well, typed my last post before the pick 6 play LOL Still, the D is not looking good aside from two furnovers. However, a nice play and pick 6. We should be up by 14 though.

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

Originally Posted By: BarkinMad

This D without Garrett is dogsh^t.

Where the hell have people been?

Even with Garrett it's dog crap.

yes, but far worse without Garrett.

Originally Posted By: leadtheway

The fact we didn’t do anything at deadline to fix this defense is criminal. Everyone knew it wasn’t a good defense and had a ton of holes. Another season of false hope and sitting on our hands waiting for our Super Bowl the draft where we can get stellar players like taki taki

That's TD Taki Taki!

Wentz looks like crap this year.

Come on D

Dude Gustin just got pancaked. He’s been stonewalled all game thus far

Finally got him.

Sendejo won’t even allow us to have it

Thanks Sendejo

SACCCK

Sendejo is an idiot, for an NFL veteran

Cut sendejo

How don’t we know that Hurts is gonna run it

Enough with Sendejo.

Sendejo really needs an injury

Sendejo is such a negative

I'd play two SS sets with Harrison and Joseph, over playing Sendejo

I do not like Sendejo, he needs to go bye-bye

Cut Special Ed (Sendejo) now. That dude is terrible!

Originally Posted By: tru_dawgs

I'd play two SS sets with Harrison and Joseph, over playing Sendejo

same here

Sendejo - our fav player. lol

How bad is our secondary that Zendejo is on the field and doing stupid things? It's bad enough that he sucks. And he's stupid? That's just awful.

Sack

That sack counts

SAAACK

Lets get the Running game going

Gotta Keep Wentz healthy, he sucks so Bad

he's your only hope vs the Browns

TERRIBLE , WECOME MAT, DEFENSE THAT CAN'T whip mashed potatoes, with a...

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Originally Posted By: tru_dawgs

I'd play two SS sets with Harrison and Joseph, over playing Sendejo

same here

Agreed.

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

Lets get the Running game going

They wont let us. They are staking the box with 8 sometimes 9.

Amazing. Week after week, Sendejo proves he's a liability.

The outside runs have been a bit more successful

On the pick, did Ward hit Wentz and cause the bad throw?

Flag on them ... nice count baker

Good Job Baker

Originally Posted By: CapCity Dawg

On the pick, did Ward hit Wentz and cause the bad throw?

Yes.

Wents' suckage is like a water fall of suckage,

on the Eagles campfire of an offense,

But the Browns defense, is a can of gasoline

and it's up to the wind whether the water fall or the gasoline gets there first.

NO WAY, The Browns can win this game, they lose by 16

guarantee it!
Go place a bet if you still can!

how do they fix this,

Good job to Hooper!

I’ve noticed Baker is taking advantage of the quiet stadium with great hard counts. He causes defenses to jump often. A little thing that helps throw off the defensive push.

Hooper!

RUN

Empty set makes us come up empty

We got them offsides, but not sure why they blew it dead

Yea baker is killing this d line with the cadence

UGH

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

We got them offsides, but not sure why they blew it dead

Agreed

What the hell was that

How isnt that a flag

Vegas called

Wasted drive

Mugged no flag

That was definitely pass interference!

That should’ve been a flag

I thought so too

Pass happy

Needed points there

what!!!!!!!!

how do they do that to the Browns

BLANK BLAME IT!!

EVERY OTHER TEAM IN THE NFL GETS A FREE PLAY ON AN offsides but they blow the whistle when it's the Browns offense,

WHAT FOR THE!
I'm going to get susp. this is uncongenable

Wheres' the holiday treat, free play

then the no call on the pass interference.

man, Might as well go freaking start the lawnmower

i'll mow the leaves in the rain vs. watch this breakdown ,

and then the Refs'
and then the terrible defense,

I'm going to fire up the grill, and start grilling baked beans, individually, makes as much sense as this game.

now I'm calling BS on Stefanski, he's got to understand you're playing in bad weather, not the time to throw the ball every play, especially when you have Nick Chubb. RUN THE DAMN BALL>

Tackle

This is tackle football, right?

Sanders is a really good back.

They are so successful running it on us

?????

I’ve seen enough of Gustin

9 to 10 yards a carry.

Whoever taught these guys to tackle forward needs to be fired. They get an extra 2-3 every play

Its Called TACKLE FOOTBALL

We haven’t had one stuff yet

Yeah if offense doesn’t keep getting points it’s just a matter of time before they blow past us

Eagles going back to the run game

Good stop finally

Finally we stop them for one play

Is porter hurt? Why is this Malveax even in there?

baker is definitely a better QB than Wentz

Cameron MALVEAUx in the game at defense,

DE, out of the mighty division Nothin Houston football team college football

played college football at Houston, I've never heard of their mascot or team name,
the Houston rip zippers mighat as well be.

NO talent ON THIS Browns Defense!

Will not be pretty, now that Myles is out, it's a barn fire in a wind storm, OUT OF CONTROL,

I say, bet the Eagles to win by 16, still today,
Pulling my Hair out by the roots!
Depodesta , Andrew Berry,
boo!

Having him instead of Garrett is a bit of a difference

Originally Posted By: THROW LONG

Cameron MALVEAUx in the game at defense,

DE, out of the mighty division Nothin Houston football team college football

played college football at Houston, I've never heard of their mascot or team name,
the Houston rip zippers mighat as well be.

NO talent ON THIS Browns Defense!

Will not be pretty, now that Myles is out, it's a barn fire in a wind storm, OUT OF CONTROL,

I say, bet the Eagles to win by 16, still today,
Pulling my Hair out by the roots!
Depodesta , Andrew Berry,
boo!

Are you watching the same game we are?

wents alreay have thrown a pick 6 and is a dumpster fire.

Good stop defense

Stopped, thank God.

Fake

Thank goodness a touchback

Go Score

Defense digging deep

Important to not give them the ball back before half if possible

Eagles lose their Center, OC, on the ol

Richardson Blows up the RB on 3rd and 6,

Wentz, keeps at the last second, 3 other Browns stop him, after a 3 yard gain

Browns ball after eagles punt,
Chubb goes for 4 or 5 but it's not working, as well as it usually does.

Almost got another offsides

THIS HALF HAS BEEN A SPOTLIGHT ON THE BROWNS DEFENSIVE WOES!

Originally Posted By: THROW LONG

THIS HALF HAS BEEN A SPOTLIGHT ON THE BROWNS DEFENSIVE WOES!

Uhhh, Philly hasn’t scored. Not saying we look good, but we’ve forced several punts.

gotta score here because philly gets the ball back to start the half

Does Baker want a second contract?

Would like to see him play like it.

Should be carving up this defense. They are selling out to stop the run.

While defense has been porous, they are making plays when it counts , same can’t be said for offense

Wills got toasted there UGH

Did Pederson fall asleep?

Wills has been horrible in the elements

Some guys aren't happy unless we are blowing out the other team from the first whistle to the last.

I see a slightly above average team out there trying to win a game.

The Browns are not world beaters.

Eagles are probably getting the ball back here ... Hope not but

Originally Posted By: THROW LONG

THIS HALF HAS BEEN A SPOTLIGHT ON THE BROWNS DEFENSIVE WOES!

We all knew this defense wasn't going to be good coming into the year, and we have given up 0 points so far today....and our defense thus far is the only reason we have scored a TD.

For our offense that was supposed to be a top 3 or top 5...Our offense is ranked 23rd/24th in the league...far more depressing imho.

Run it, make them call TO ... punt it and make them go the field in 1 minute

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Run it, make them call TO ... punt it and make them go the field in 1 minute

Thinking same

Ok defense. We need a big stop here!!

Yep, defense has to get a stop

I still can't believe Baker missed those two wide open TDs.

A better throw to Higgins gets him in the endzone as well.

Just so subpar.

Clayborne

Sack!

Sack ... TO by us

Originally Posted By: Rishuz

I still can't believe Baker missed those two wide open TDs.

A better throw to Higgins gets him in the endzone as well.

Just so subpar.

Higgins throw doesn’t bother me, every qb does that. The other two though, you can’t miss those.

SAAAAACK

Come on D

Good job defense!!!

Gotta get at least three here.

That was a helluva punt.

When did Wentz become a tackling dummy? Wow, he gets sacked a lot.

Is DPJ carrying a piano on his back

Take it in Browns nothing stupid here

30 seconds left before halftime

Originally Posted By: cfrs15

Gotta get at least three here.

I thought we had one more timeout.

Well, this looks like another November slug fest. This is how you find out what sort of men you have on the roster.

WORST HALF OF FOOTBALL

SINCE OPENING DAY,

WON'T WIN ANOTHER GAME ALL YEAR, 6-10

super

if you can't recognize bad football, being a Browns fan,

I don't care score , results, two turnovers and a lost center by the bad guys,

YOU OUGHT TO BE LEADING 21-0
Before this final drive of the half!!!

That was a good throw. Hooper with the drop.

Dude we’re winning on another bad weather game. Chill out

Two pretty poor offensive teams IMO

Originally Posted By: Swish

Well, this looks like another November slug fest. This is how you find out what sort of men you have on the roster.

3 outta 10 are decent,

shame, 7 outta, shouldn't wear the jersey.

Last three games are a testament to needing a retractable roof

Our young offense is gonna learn to play in bad weather whether they like it or not.

Our D has already figured it out.

If someone came into this thread and knew nothing they’d think we were 0-9. We are an OK team with lots of work to do. It’s just enjoyable for me at least to not be talking draft at this time of the year.

Originally Posted By: Swish

Well, this looks like another November slug fest. This is how you find out what sort of men you have on the roster.

Unmotivated and unfocused.

Going through the motions as if the playoffs were already out of reach.

Originally Posted By: Swish

Dude we’re winning on another bad weather game. Chill out

x2

I cant remember the name of this dude on FOX ... but he takes every chance to bash Baker. I’m not a huge fan of Baker, but this guy is relentless about his every move

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

I cant remember the name of this dude on FOX ... but he takes every chance to bash Baker. I’m not a huge fan of Baker, but this guy is relentless about his every move

Reggie Bush?

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

I cant remember the name of this dude on FOX ... but he takes every chance to bash Baker. I’m not a huge fan of Baker, but this guy is relentless about his every move

Reggie Bush?

no it’s the other guy ... maybe a former DB or WR

Originally Posted By: columbusdawg

If someone came into this thread and knew nothing they’d think we were 0-9. We are an OK team with lots of work to do. It’s just enjoyable for me at least to not be talking draft at this time of the year.

That’s why I do the chat instead. Not so much negativity

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

Originally Posted By: PastorMarc

Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life

I cant remember the name of this dude on FOX ... but he takes every chance to bash Baker. I’m not a huge fan of Baker, but this guy is relentless about his every move

Reggie Bush?

no it’s the other guy ... maybe a former DB or WR

Hall of gamer Charles Woodson lol? He’s an Ohio boy, and he was right this time talking about baker making the easy plays

Is this the worst 6-3 team in the league?

Prediction: Wentz won’t be in Philly long term.

Originally Posted By: CalDawg

If this game comes down to QB play, and it probably will, we are screwed.

This did not age well.

I take back my take back.

Well both QB's gave the other team 7 so here we go ...

Originally Posted By: Bird

Is this the worst 6-3 team in the league?

Prediction: Wentz won’t be in Philly long term.

Easily the worst 6-3 team.

Will not make the playoffs.

well, if the Browns can't beat Philly today, they do not deserver the playoffs at all.

NOW that was a really sharp pass there.

We see you hodge

Well, that sucked.

Baker is so unathletic for being smaller in stature...well least we got a FG

Originally Posted By: Pdawg

Originally Posted By: columbusdawg

If someone came into this thread and knew nothing they’d think we were 0-9. We are an OK team with lots of work to do. It’s just enjoyable for me at least to not be talking draft at this time of the year.

That’s why I do the chat instead. Not so much negativity

but yet we are talking draft and FA period, nobody believes this team is a completed project, as in, ready to win the Super Bowl. The D still needs lots of work, as does ST coverage. This team has some talent, for sure, but as you said, still work to be done, as far as cotinuing to build upon that talent.

Atleast we got points