The Browns played many players that will not make this team.

So, it is impossible to judge unit strength.

As a team the performance was professional. We committed three penalty's.

Passing 31-44 for 319 yards
Rushing 41 yards.

Felton made some plays and showed his versatility.
DPJ continued his good play.

Both lines played well. We protected. We got pressure.

Jeremiah Owuzu Koramoah showed why people believe he was a steal in the draft.

He has unique abilities. He knifes past blockers. He is explosive in pursuit. He can cover. He can tackle.

IMO he will improve each game. And he is going to be a factor on defense all year.

Yes, we got way less penalties then we normally do. Good! Not a bad preseason game to watch at all.

I don't like that the starting O got the game off. Did the first pre-season game just become like the old fourth pre-season game? I'd prefer they go through the usual gameday prep...play the first series...then sit. Seems like a wasted opportunity to get better.

I hope we have this many good-looking WRs when/if we move on from the OBJ/Landry contract(s). I think the new guy (Davis) makes plays that Hodge cannot. I think that at least two cut WRs (maybe four actually because I don't see Natson or Switzer making the cut) will be swiftly snatched up by another team. How weird will that be?

I found myself wondering whether John Kelly could play fullback.

Dunn took a snap at C. Forbes and Gossett sat until late in the game. When they opted out last year, I thought our OL situation was a pending disaster. It wasn't. I think they are in the mix with a bunch of guys looking at/for one spot...maybe two. We have the starting five...then Dunn, Hance & Hubbard...that's eight...and Hudson isn't getting cut. How many will we keep? Who can play T/C in a pinch?

Did Lauletta look better than Keenum? I'm really not sure. Watching all three of our QBS be able to get in and out of the huddle and get lined up was almost like watching the twilight zone...but in a good way.

I think the backup DEs could put their names in a hat and have a fan pick out the backups...ok not really. Gustin and Jackson looked better than anyone else and Weaver looked like JAG.

Togiai was clearly noticeable but the other backup DTs all looked about the same.

I think we have plenty of LBs to choose from...and Walker didn't play. I still think JOK needs to add 10-15 lbs. or he's going to get run at a lot. He was fun to watch tho. I expect he will look more like an in-the-box safety than a LB...which is fine.

While we have a lot of guys who appear to be decent/good/maybe-really-good Safeties, I don't like the CB options.

Hopefully Greedy was just rusty but he was looking very JAG like. AJ Green got hosed on a ST penalty that wasn't...he didn't really stand out, but I think they like him...and I could see some of why. Robert Jackson keeps hanging around and when he gives up a play he's always juuuuuust a little late in his coverage...he's there...he's so close to being that decent backup guy.

IMO we still need a starter-level CB...as in must-have. I think Newsome's got it...I think Greedy is a backup...and there is no way I count on Ward to play more than 12 games or so.

The talent certainly looks better than I can ever remember. Is that scouting or coaching? Or dare I say BOTH?

IMO the thing that stood out most was the level of preparedness these guys looked good across the board and clearly IMO show all the signs of well coached players.

We are in for one hell of a ride this year if the backups are this good how good are the starters? I see a coaching staff getting everything out of a player you can reasonably expect.

I also think in case you didn't notice that we are easily the best coached team in the league, hands down.

We are ready let's go! DYNASTY

We may have to look at some of the other teams cuts for back-up DT's. We are pretty well set everywhere else.

For the first pre-season game given who played. It was a success.

One guy I did not mention was Billings. He was force inside. I did not see him get moved by anyone. When we start Clowney, Myles, and Malik. Billings will hold the middle and plug gaps. I think he will be really good against the run.

The second string and third string OL played well.

The rushing number of 41 yards looks low. However, we ran a ton of screens. And we threw to backs often.

QB play was adequate. However, ball placement by Case and Kyle was not great. Makes you appreciate the way Baker throws. Baker throws catchable balls with nice touch especially on screens which is a big part of what we do.

Interesting that during the week Grossi stated that Koramoah was not a starter. Once again Tony is off the mark.

The best player on the field yesterday was JOK.

All of what he did yesterday was no different than what he did in college. He won the Butkus award as the best linebacker in college.

He made some mistakes however, his recovery speed is off the charts.

DPJ is going to make big plays this season.

IMO KS is going to be very careful with the starters. I do not believe any starter will get many pre-season reps in these games.

And I am fine with that. Kevin will see what he wants in practice and maybe a few series.

The goal before the season is be ready and be healthy.

The game started with the Browns #2s looking better than the Jags #1s. That was my big take away, the Browns have depth.

This Newsome kid is a good tackler.Every time the guy he was covering made a catch,he made the tackle and once it was short of a 1st down.
Keenum looked good and Lauletta looked like he needs alot of work,but he has a nice arm.
ABC sucks at producing football.While I believe JT was a great player,he sucks as a color commentator,and the other fellow is a star struck rambler.

What I heard... The Jags broadcaster (don't know who was who) kept saying Staley when talking about Stanton. Nobody caught it and corrected him, he just kept calling him Staley.

Horrible broadcasting crew. Unprepared and rarely knew who made the plays.

Did not even know that most of the players we played were guys who will most likely not even be on the team.

Clearly a local Jags coverage broadcast.

For the Browns KS got what he wanted done from a first game.

I don't get those claiming Greedy was horrible

Did Anthony Schwartz play?

I don't know if you remember the 2018 Senior Bowl. The North used 2 QB's, Mayfield in the 1st half and Lauletta in the 2nd. On that day, Lauletta was the better QB. I always smile when I see them on the same roster now.

No he has a hamstring issue.

DPJ is making it real hard for others in the receiving room.

Hodge, Higgins, Schwartz are getting a warning.

I saw pretty much what I expected to see. In my best porn voice, "I saw a lot of back up on back up action".

I will note some of the things that did stand out to me. First of all I don't live anywhere close to Cleveland. As such I had to watch the game on the NFL Network. The announcers were the Jacksonville announcers. As such they focused on the Jacksonville players which made it much harder to keep up with the Browns substitutions.

First. I noticed a great deal of plays dialed up to include our FB's. Both in the running and passing game. With both Chubb and Hunt not playing I doubt that reflects what we will see during the regular season, however it does reflect that Stefanski's playbook has a lot of plays designed with the FB in mind.

DPJ. He gave me cause to understand why there has been a lot of talk about him. What I was surprised by was the lack of separation. He won the battles which many WR's make a living from but I had expected more separation on his routes especially against back up defenders.

JOK. He certainly gave me a glimpse of the skill set I was expecting to see. Once again I keep in mind it was against back up players but that's a rare skill set and I feel fairly confident the coaching staff can make the most out of coaching him and getting the most out of him. To say my expectations of him are high would be an understatement.

QB's. While neither actually lit it up, both seemed to be in command on the field and weren't making mistakes that cause us to beat ourselves. Both put together scoring drives and maintained at least some level of consistency. That meets my expectations of what I hope to see in back up QB's.

Next I'll tell you the one thing I think may concern many fans that didn't really concern me. The lack of run blocking from our back up OL.

As a unit it looked putrid. And that's the thing, when the entire group is nothing but back ups it's hard to focus on who was doing a good job and who was doing a bad job. Some of those in that line up may shine when infused within a quality OL. Having the entire unit being backups made it very difficult for me to define who was the weak link or links that created the melt down. If anyone can give me a better breakdown of that it would be appreciated.

Didn't see the game - thanks for the feedback. Sounds encouraging from the perspective of continuation of a prepared and professional team that is well coached.

I wonder which preseason game becomes the closest thing to a real half of football? I guess game 2 because you don't want to risk niggly injuries in game 3?

I would guess most of our starters never play in the preseason.

Billings was the worst dline out there. Whoever said he didn’t get moved must have been thinking about someone else. Billings looked like a fat guy who got fatter with a year off. Togai will take his reps

Starters need to play. If KC and TB are playing theirs you follow suit. Work it out with opposing coach to get both teams some safe work with the ones. Not playing a full preseason will bite us

Schwartz did not play, practice or anything, hamstring.

Parkey did not look good, or to have the strongest leg.

Weaver did he play 3 snaps, maybe he's not healthy.

Robert Jackson 34 could have had a better game I think.

I think AJ Green Db played, but I think he was invisible.

Greg Newsome also played.

49 Kiondre Thomas got targeted it seemed a couple times, he had 0k coverage but not enough on a Td catch he gave up.
He has slightly more suspect coverage on the 2pt try that failed that targeted him right afterwards.

What I saw?

FOOTBALL Sorta..

It was good to see football again and to see it in a nearly full stadium. Jax doesn't ever really fill all the way up so it was at least better.

Next week in Cleveland, I bet FE will be full..

JOK,, the real deal, plays as advertised.. and will get better IMO

Newsome II, pretty good but I think it might have looked a little lost at time.. kinda expected given he's a rook and his first NFL game.

DJP... nothing but positives to say

Davion Davis... Not sure if he's really that good or if the guys covering him weren't.. Either way, needs to see play against tougher opponent.

Trevor Lawrence... I'm sure he'll be fine, but he looked pretty much like a rookie last night.. Not exciting.

They'll probably treat pre-season as in they removed the old pre-season game 1.
What we saw last night was akin to previous pre-season game 2. Now both games condensed into 1 with 2 halves.

Next game will be like old preseason game 3.

and the final game of preseason, much like old preseason game 4, will probably continue to be about the worst, named team vs. named team matchup in all of sports.

Richard LeCounte III had a nice game, with 2 tackles, an INT, a sack, a QB Hit, and 2 PBU. He looks really instinctual out there.

I got his number mixed up.

It was hard really to track a lot of guys. The camera angles were bad and the announcers didn't cover much.

I found myself asking who is that guy a lot?

You hijacking eo's thread?

I am sure I have his blessing.

It is an opportunity for all to reply.

Since you have nothing don't bother.

Liked that kid Davis. He goes and gets the ball.

The safety LeCounte had some good plays.

Over the week I will watch again.

I wanted to look at the DT's. But it was difficult in one look.

It was hard to get the numbers down and really see who was doing what.

This week will be interesting. There will be cuts.
There are the joint practices and then the pre-season game with the Giants.

Next game will see us run some different plays.

However, I do believe KS will keep things simple and want to see execution. Emphasis will be on take practice to the field. Do what we showed you. Good technique and know your assignments.

I saw our 2s outplay their 1s, for what that is worth.

I'll be honest ... seeing Lawrence's first NFL play result in a sack and fumble made me smile.

A lot of WR with nice games. DPJ, Bradley, Davis (#18, think that is his name). Switzer with a couple nice catches. In years past these guys would be battling for WR2 and WR3 spots. This year it is WR5 and WR6.

Pass block good. Run block not so good.

JOK fun to watch.

Newsome can tackle. That is nice to see. The rookie safety, LeCourt (something like that), had a nice game. Is #34 Jackson a guy that has been with us before? If not, then we have a differnet #34 that is as bad as the old one.

Tebow with an absolute pathetic attempt at a block.

It was nice to see some semblance of football!

I'm sure it was useful to the coaching staff, but that game did nothing for me as far as determining depth. I agree that cut decisions will be hard. If I was not so hard up to see some football, I wouldn't even watch the other preseason games. I thought yesterday was disappointing with just backups playing. Did nothing for me.

That to me would be a huge mistake.

Limit the number of drives - and the D can certainly afford less reps than the O.... but Baker needs to have 3 or 4 drives before the season starts seeing different DB's defend his passes and WR's etc. Chubb and Hunt I'm less concerned about - but then TE's and WR's need reps against legit #1 talent too. Otherwise we'll be using Game 1 and a soft loss to KC as the real prep for the rest of the season instead of coming out and making a statement.

Browns TE Stephen Carlson likely out for the season with a knee injury; Mack Wilson awaiting MRI results on his shoulder

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/08...ck-tuesday.html


CLEVELAND, Ohio — Browns tight end Stephen Carlson, a promising young player who the club really likes, suffered what’s likely a season-ending knee injury Saturday night against the Jaguars, a league source said.

Carlson, 24, left the stadium in a large knee brace and on crutches after the Browns’ 23-13 victory. Originally signed by the Browns as an undrafted rookie out of Princeton in 2019, Carlson signed a one-year deal with the Browns in April.

He was the fourth tight end on the depth chart behind Austin Hooper, David Njoku and Harrison Bryant, but he was still expected to make the team in part because the Browns play a lot of two-tight-end sets, and sometimes three. Carlson (6-foot-4, 240) will likely undergo surgery and set his sights on returning next season.

The Browns are hoping they get better news on Wilson, who left the game early on with a shoulder injury and didn’t return. Wilson also underwent an MRI on Sunday, but Kevin Stefanski said he didn’t know the results yet.

He also wasn’t sure how Wilson hurt the shoulder, but “I can vividly remember him grabbing it’' on one of the first couple of plays. “We’ll see how he comes out of it after the MRI.”

The loss of Wilson for any length of time would be a blow, because he had worked his way up to starting weakside linebacker with an excellent offseason and camp. It would also be unfortunate after what he went through last season. Wilson suffered a hyperextended knee in camp last summer, and missed most or all of the first three games. He never felt like himself when he returned, and contemplated quitting football.

The news that he was about to become a father rejuvenated him, and the birth of Mack II two weeks ago coincided with some excellent play in camp, including an interception in the end zone and a flurry of passes broken up.

Wilson’s early exit Saturday night paved the way for a breakout performance by second-round linebacker Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, who led the team with eight tackles — including three for a loss — notched a sack on a blitz up the middle, and tightly covered some receivers while playing 70% of the defensive snaps. He also nearly blocked a punt.

Owusu-Koramoah steals the show

“He did make splash plays,’’ Stefanski said. “He made good tackles along the sideline, made a nice play on that screen. He needs to clean up his eye progression, and he understands that and the coaches are working very hard. To really play fast in this league, it’s when you’re not thinking, and I think he’s getting there. With a lot of work, I think he’ll get there. But overall, he understands that there’s plenty of work to be done.”

As for earning reps with the ones, some of that will depend on the severity of Wilson’s injury, but Stefanski will undoubtedly want to see his rookie against some of the Giants starters in joint practices Thursday and Friday.

“I think all these guys as we continue to progress through training camp, we’ll continue to meet as coaches and discuss those types of things,’’ he said. “I think with all of our rookies as you know, we bring them up all on different time frames and some guys are ready for more and some guys aren’t. So we’ll make that on a case by case basis.”

While Wilson will likely miss some time and Carlson is headed for injured reserve, Stefanski expects to get some of his injured players back this week, particularly some of the half a dozen or so who have been nursing nagging hamstring injuries. Possible candidates to ease their way back in this week including safety Grant Delpit and rookie receiver Anthony Schwartz, who both need to catch up in a hurry if they hope to contribute in Kansas City against the Chiefs on Sept. 12.

“A lot of those guys are really close and I’m optimistic about it, but I want to get to Tuesday to see exactly where everybody is, use today and tomorrow as part of that rehab,’’ Stefanski said. “But I’m optimistic that we’ll get some guys back.’’

Schwartz, in particular, needs to get back and build on the chemistry he started to develop with Baker Mayfield at the start of camp.

“We’re eager to get him back,’’ Stefanski said. “He’s progressing nicely, so again, optimistic on some of these guys but we’ll see as we go. Anthony in particular has done a very nice job. Extremely attentive in meetings, he’s going to be ready to go mentally and then what we saw, the speed is real. Baker and he got a lot of work together in the early portion of training camp when he was out there, which I think is really important for any battery to understand each other if you will.

“So we’re excited to get him back out here, and as it relates to hands, all of our guys are working on their craft, and I think they do a great job of getting extra work in, whether it be pre-practice, post-practice etc. A lot of our rookies are working very hard on the extra stuff that they can do to try and become better players because they’re still rookies and they’re going to be rookies for a pretty long time here.’’

Stefanski was also thrilled that cornerback Greedy Williams (shoulder) and offensive tackle Chris Hubbard (knee) returned to live action and emerged unscathed. Williams played 18 snaps, and Hubbard, 17. Williams got contact right away, making the tackle on a 76-yard kickoff return nullified by a holding call, and stopping Marvin Jones after a third-down conversion.

“Really proud of those guys to be out there preseason game No. 1 off of those injuries,’’ Stefanski said. “They’ve rehabbed like crazy. They did a nice job and the next step is coming back to practice, work the soreness out type things and continue to build.’’

The injured players will have Monday off to continue rehabbing, and then the Browns will have light practices on Tuesday and Wednesday before the Giants invade Berea for the joint practices on Thursday and Friday in advance of their preseason meeting Sunday at FirstEnergy Stadium.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot about him, this kid got instincts....

I can see how some may take that as a huge mistake. I can also see how some would point to the fact we didn't even hold practices last year and we looked pretty good out of the gate. And they may also see it as a way not to give away any any signs of what our first string has planned going into the season.

I think there are two ways of looking at it. I have no way of knowing if they will see any action in preseason or not but I can certainly see both sides of the coin.

Just wondering if I heard this right on the radio,, Mack Wilson is out for a while and Carlson is lost for the year? Did the get that right?

Heck - if KS thinks that's the way to go, really who am I or anyone to question it right? He earned enough kudos last year to last a lifetime of my trust. . . . well certainly a season or two!

I just think the chances of injury increase with too soft a preseason ... was it Hue that had camp cupcake and then we came out and just looked soft all year and had lots of soft tissue injuries? . . . I also think we need to come out and set the tone when we play KC. We talked about wanting a winning culture and mentality ... I think that's more likely with some real game practice. We don't want to peak too early or at the wrong end of the season, but let's start as we mean to go on.

That's what the article above says.
I wonder who the quarterback was that threw the pass to Carlson.

Feels like, pressure to not let the ball hit the ground, so much worry about throwing one play in a flippin pre season game cost the Browns TE-4, a career in the balance,
and for an insignificant pile of trash preseason game that wasn't even necessary as 2020 showed.

Teams have to cut 5 by the 17th? By the way injuries happen, they'll be lucky to have 53 healthy by seasons start.

All 4. All Four tight ends played in all 16 games last year, the Browns with Stefanski, use 4 tight ends not 3.
If they make the decision to use 3 fine,
but if injuries force them to use only 3,
then the injuries shouldn't come in a meaningless pile of trash preseason game.

The guys will practice against the Giants this week. That is better than a preseason game because you can simulate situations you need to work on instead of random preseason crapola.

"Lit...

...UP!!!"

Carlson is believed to be out for the season. The only thing I can find on Wilson is a grade one sprain. He shouldn't miss too much time if true.

FYI. Richard LeCounte is recovering from a pretty bad ATV accident, which probably effected his draft status, and the Browns expectations for this year.

Maybe he can contribute, the door is pretty wide open.

Honestly, he looked a lot faster than I expected him to be.

I didn't think he would have made the team anyways. Can they injury settle him?

I dunno. He's a good blocker that has also made some tough, clutch grabs during games. We like to run 2TE sets, so who is the 4th after Bryant?

If we were absolutely going to keep (4) TEs, I think he was a lock for the 53. However, I don't think (4) TEs PLUS a FB makes any sense for the 53...with or without Carlson.

Too much WR & RB talent and depth...example...I'd rather keep Felton AND D Johnson than a 4th TE.

What Willie said.

Maybe he could have stayed on the PS. That said, the Browns did keep 5 TEs for the roster in 2020.

Next man up. It’s time to see what Conner Davis or Jordan Franks have to offer.

I messed up on Billings number.

It was Sheldon Day. He looked decent inside.

That 1st tackle was really impressive. A lot of young defenders would have run themselves out of the play by over-pursuing. He diagnosed the play and made the tackle for a short gain. Love seeing that.

I'm almost done watching Gamepass. These announcers are awful, and it's tough to track who is doing what.

I'm not impressed by our Oline, but there are all backups out there, and unit cohesiveness is probably not what it would normally be. We are getting pushed around in the run game, though... so I don't know if I should read into that at all.

I'm similarly not impressed by the secondary (or at least who was playing at the beginning). Looked to be quite a few easy completions.

We also seemed to get run on a bit in the beginning.

The numbers don't stop them from keeping them all.

5 TE?s 2020? Ya but only for 3 days, by season opener it was only 4 TE,so that shouldn't count. (If I recall correctly.)

Nah, put him on IR and see if you need him next year.

j/c...

Defensive grades from preseason game vs. Jax.

Billings had the lowest D-Line grade of 37.4

Highest LB grades:

JOK: 77.9
Takitaki: 74.4

Highest CB grade:

AJ Green: 79.6

Highest safety:

LeCounte III: 90.4

Here are all the defensive player grades:

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/08...eplaceable.html

Is there some sort of fluky reason that Mack consistently get trashed on these grading scales? I know I'm just asking for a ton of snark here, but we were led to believe that he's turning a corner just to get stuck with his usual ultra-subpar game grade (against a preseason roster). It makes me wonder if there's something in the grading scale/stat that's not grading Mack correctly (these advanced stats are not infallible).

Mack only played 4 snaps before getting injured so I wouldn't put too much stock into his grade in this particular game.

Here's a link to a full game summary:

https://static.clubs.nfl.com/image/upload/browns/aifbwok8sosj6h1nyibk.pdf

Apparently not a good start for Billings, who a lot of people were interested in seeing this year as one of the a hopeful replacements for Ogunjobi and Richardson.

While it was against backups and some players who probably won't even make the Jags roster, his speed and instincts were on full display and gave me very optimistic expectations from him moving forward.

And almost blocked a punt IIRC...

j/c

I almost forgot about those two "almost blocks" by that 34 year old, new, "rookie at the position", TE Tim Tebow.



But then they were pretty fogettable.

Baldy only saw / broke down this play so far, but I love his breakdowns even when they go against us.

What kind of weight should be given to numerical grades from a (pile of trash official named) preseason game.

The best preseason player I ever saw, (pile of trash preseason), was a quarterback behind Kosar in around 1991, or 1994,
that Qb was amazing in preseason and a rookie,
He stunk as a qb in any regular season action

For that reason... no weight or very little.

Eric Zeier, Quarterback, with the best preseason ever to remember. 1991-ish out of Georgia.
You'll never see, it was legendary, the (pile of trash) preseason 4 games of Eric Zeier, Qb Uga. Noteworthy 30 years later. It did not translate to the actual season.

http://tcf.danwismar.com/cleveland-brown...on-history.html

More interesting than I thought.

Alabama,
Columbus,
Toledo,
Montreal, places to play preseason games.
College vs. Pros in 1955? interesting read, found looking up Eric Zeiers pre season.

He might be a major steal. I saw him play a lot when he was in college and he played way better then his draft position. Injury hampered him, and I was a bit worried maybe he wasn't going to get better.

It looks like he is back, and that is major good news for us, but maybe not for Delpit. LeCounte has starting ability. he showed the range I remembered. It may not be early, or even this year, but LeCounte is starter quality.

At the very least, it means we have some very good depth in the secondary for the next couple of years, whomever that may end up being.

He looked really solid Saturday night; he stood out.

Kid was hunting.
Did you see how he never lost sight of the ball/carrier?
Didn't get distracted by the wash, stayed laser-focused. Stick that landing.

That was really impressive.

I have watched a ton of his tape in college. Going into the draft he was the player I liked the most.

Blockers never get a clean lick on him. He always slices past them. He has this knack to dip and slide past blockers and cut the runner off.

In addition in space he can lock a receiver up.

Even though we play him at linebacker in many ways he reminds me of Ed Reed.

He will have a major impact on the Browns defense.

Watched it live with a bunch of people who didn't care so it was tough... watched it again last night and, it was just as I feared. This is NOT a super bowl caliber team, not even close.

So I'll just lay out the sad truth for everybody... if all of our starters get hurt and we have to play with this group, we aren't going to win the super bowl.

You came to that conclusion via 1 preseason game where no starter played?

Is what you saying with tongue in cheek?

So, the Jags play starters and second string and do zip.

We sit 30 players. The guys on the field were people who mostly will not make the team. And rookies who are playing in their first game.

Not a starter on offense played.

First "pre-season game."

And you have reached a conclusion?

Damn you must have an amazing crystal ball that should be used for the lottery.

You can not be serious?

Obviously, it was meant to be funny. But, I find your comment just as silly. You think if we lose every starter on this team that we are going to the Super Bowl? Read what he said, guys…..

I gave him the open to clarify.

I stated "tongue in cheek."

Of course if no starters played; no team would win a SB.

Well….that’s exactly what he said……

Except... Da Bears...

this guy is fantastic

Dude kills me.

"if we are all going to die of covid; can we at least have a good season?"

Yes, I actually reached this conclusion before the first pre-season game when I saw the line-up that we would be going with.. that "if all of our starters get hurt and we have to play with this group, we aren't going to win the super bowl."

I am serious and don't call me Shirley..

Wait, you didn't call me Shirley.. nevermind.

I saw total domination with our second and third stringers cept for a few. Wow a clean game with 3 penalties! Keep that up dawgs. Easy win. This team shows depth and poise. Next….

I saw a team that is building quality depth all over the roster.

Good point.

And that is the key for this team at this time.

Over the course of the season and then on into post season.

Teams competiting for the championship will have to depend upon their depth.

A roster of 53 players. If you don't have players who can step in and not perform adequately. You will not make it to the end.

Depth is often overlooked.

Pretty sure you can say that about every team in the league,, what's your point.

Do you have any idea of what 'sarcasm' is?

That was the point.

Sarcasm is a lost art ...... or maybe I should say, an underappreciated one.

Can't slip anything by you!

But ... but ... he didn't use purple. You're supposed to use purple for sarcasm.

/sarc

My favorite name for a fantasy team, and I've used it for both baseball and football, is 'Shirley Eugest'.

Read as it reads it's not sarcastic.

The Browns, whether people want to talk Super Bowl or not have to get in the playoffs before they can even play the games that lead to the Super Bowl.
To get in the Playoffs the Browns are going to have to go through 4 games vs the Ravens and Steelers.

If the Browns go 0-4 or even 1-3 in the 4 matchups vs the Ravens and Steelers they'll be way behind the curve for even getting a playoff berth, so Super Bowl Caliber is not even a given.

DC, may have meant the playcalling and choices or unfolding of how the plays developed, on offense, or defense, or even special teams, Kicker.

The bottom line is regular season success comes first so might as well start there in focus.
(And he does mention he's talking about the backups who played.)
(preseason games are trash)

I hope we never get a center named Ben Dover.

EDIT: Wait a minute, I kinda do. It’d be funny.

[in the voice of Jimmy Donovan, mid-game]:
"4th and a looong one. 69 yards to paydirt. Stefanski says, "Go for it!"
[Doug Dieken]: "Oh boy... here we come..."
[JD]: "Ben Dover over the ball... Baker under the center... Chubb lined up for a straight-line power plunge... here's the snap-"

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Yeah- still can't get with it.


Present your argument(s). Show your work in front of the class. Convince me that I should "eat chubb." I dare you to try, bro.

#notfeelin'it,
clem


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As we can see by his response and by the latest post from Throw, there's a reason some people use purple. I rarely ever do but I can understand why some do.

It's kind of like Festivus. Almost everyone celebrates Christmas accept for a few religions for the most part. But for the few remaining, there's always Festivus. You know, "Festivus for the rest of us!"

Now that we are good, building depth is paramount. In the past we couldn't build any quality depth because we were mostly starting depth. Anybody half way good was going to play.

The depth will come in to play twice.

First if someone gets hurt or to rotate in for a series here and there.

Second, it will come in to play as we have to trade or let plyers walk due to the cap. They will have to step in and start next year and after. Hopefully they can step in and perform at a similar level to the player they are going to replace.

It’s a bowl of cereal, dude. If it’s high in fibre, it might be beneficial for a gentleman of your, shall we say, level of maturity.

Step one of Festivus is the airing of greivances. How can you expect anyone to believe you celebrate Festivus when we all know you live in a world without any greivances. [color=purple ] [/ color ]

I may have... but if I did, I wouldn't have only included...

if all of our starters get hurt and we have to play with this group, we aren't going to win the super bowl.

Maybe it's reading that's a lost art?

I get accused of being captain obvious all the time,, so when I do it on purpose,, you get all upset... Geez.