Did he hit himself in the head with his own helmet?
This is shocking, stunning news. I'm shocked ... and stunned.
Toast. Put this guy out for good.
The irony here is that as pathetic as Josh is, in between bans he has probably been paid more money than most mocking him will see in their lifetime. I'm not sure on those numbers but I can't imagine he hasn't made several million by now.
Maybe one of the biggest wastes of talent I've ever followed closely.
dude had the talent to be one of the greatest. he put up a 1600 yard season even with missing the first two games of the season due to suspension, with what? 3-4 DIFFERENT QBs throwing the ball that season.
what a freaking moron. all that talent....yea, gordon reminds me of this years browns team. all sorts of talent, complete dud.
Maybe one of the biggest wastes of talent I've ever followed closely.
Best player I've ever seen in person and it's not close.
And he'll meet with Goodell in February, there will be stern words and a dozen articles, and he'll be with another team by Week 5.
He needs to sign with the pats again so Goodell will reinstate him.
When i heard the news a few hours ago.. I was like..who cares....
nothing against your thread...i just dont give a damn about him ... and really hate the same subject.
Multi million dollar talent with a 10 cent brain.
Man I hope he gets his life straightened out.
In his defense, watching the Browns makes me want to pick up a drug/drinking habit. I can't imagine what playing for the Browns would do to a man.
Not a surprise .. I hope he gets past his addiction, but I also hope he’s never let back in the NFL
Lol...I knew all along Josh would screw another team over. Never thought BB would fall for it tho.
Wasted talent... Every bit as good as OBJ as this best or Landry at his best...What a waste
J/C
I think its safe to say that maybe...just maybe...josh has a problem, and its a little more than "just being an idiot".
Addiction is real. Dependency is real. If some of you are so caught up in a football game that you can see that, Im sorry you have no compassion for your fellow man.
I hope the guy gets help and can beat his demons one day.
Lol...I knew all along Josh would screw another team over. Never thought BB would fall for it tho.
I was critical of that move myself. That said, it only cost them a 5th round pick, and they did win the Super Bowl last year (albeit with Gordon unavailable due to suspension.) So it didn't really cost them much.
Maybe one of the biggest wastes of talent I've ever followed closely.
Best player I've ever seen in person and it's not close.
I remember the game where he stiff armed Aqib Talib then left him in the dust. Talib was a beast in his own right and there was probably no other receiver in the game at the time that could have had that sequence. Maybe Calvin Johnson.
He obviously has a problem and I hope he gets the help he needs. Or rather, being on an NFL roster has given him access to better help than 99%+ of the people out there, including fully paid trips to rehab and a 7 figure job awaiting his return, seemingly no matter how many times he lets teams down.
He has to want to live a sober life though. Without that, no amount of professional guidance and resources is going to help. I don't think he has reached that point and it (understandably) makes people confused about his choices.
Wasted talent... Every bit as good as OBJ as this best or Landry at his best...What a waste
I'd argue he was more a Randy moss clone. Similar build, jumping, speed, ability to catch everything. Throw it deep and he'll get it.
For some reason I can see him holding a sign in his future that says, "Call BR-549".
For some reason I can see him holding a sign in his future that says, "Call BR-549".
That's such and insult to Junior Samples.
Addiction is real. Dependency is real. If some of you are so caught up in a football game that you can see that, Im sorry you have no compassion for your fellow man.
I think its BS.. If he has addiction problems..he would'nt be built like superman... He just likes smoking weed..plain and simple...and can't follow rules..
According to the statement posted by Seahawks PR, he violated both the PEDs policy (think steroids, HGH, etc.) and substances of abuse policy (think recreational drugs.)
https://twitter.com/seahawksPR/status/1206684222884208640
Addiction is real. Dependency is real. If some of you are so caught up in a football game that you can see that, Im sorry you have no compassion for your fellow man.
I think its BS.. If he has addiction problems..he would'nt be built like superman... He just likes smoking weed..plain and simple...and can't follow rules..
IF this is the case AND the NFL goes down the same route as MLB with weed (eg. allowing it)...then Gordon's career has been destroyed by the NFL. I am also consistently amazed that the NFL supports players popping pain pills, but not opting to smoke weed medicinally. If it were my body I would hands down go the route that is natural & ISN'T highly addictive.
Addiction is real. Dependency is real. If some of you are so caught up in a football game that you can see that, Im sorry you have no compassion for your fellow man.
I think its BS.. If he has addiction problems..he would'nt be built like superman... He just likes smoking weed..plain and simple...and can't follow rules..
IF this is the case AND the NFL goes down the same route as MLB with weed (eg. allowing it)...then Gordon's career has been destroyed by the NFL. I am also consistently amazed that the NFL supports players popping pain pills, but not opting to smoke weed medicinally. If it were my body I would hands down go the route that is natural & ISN'T highly addictive.
I'm a proponent of legal marijuana, but let's not get it
twisted. Gordon's career has been destroyed by Gordon. Which is to say nothing of the laundry list of other drugs he's abused, relationships he's sabotaged and helping hands he's pushed away.
All of this is sad. That is my only reaction.
He had the capability within him to rewrite the record books, and he was doing it here with nobodies throwing to him
He couldn't get out of his own way enough to thrive with Tom Freaking Brady throwing it to him.
Such a waste.
Lol...I knew all along Josh would screw another team over. Never thought BB would fall for it tho.
I was critical of that move myself. That said, it only cost them a 5th round pick, and they did win the Super Bowl last year (albeit with Gordon unavailable due to suspension.) So it didn't really cost them much.
Kraft bought him a ring. That’s some pretty stinky cheese my friend.
I'm not sure what your point is.
If it were "just weed" I believe you would have a valid point. From every indication I've seen over time, it's about a lot more than "just weed".
marijuana
alcohol
xanax
codeine
cocaine
hydrocodone
oxycodone
adderall
And that's just what he has admitted as repeated abuse. With a gameday ritual of "bong rips and shots of whiskey", it's hard to blame any league policy for JG's anguish.
Addiction is real. Dependency is real. If some of you are so caught up in a football game that you can see that, Im sorry you have no compassion for your fellow man.
I think its BS.. If he has addiction problems..he would'nt be built like superman... He just likes smoking weed..plain and simple...and can't follow rules..
Well, I hate to tell you, that's false.
You can be in extremely good shape, and still be a herion addict.
I lost two cousins, both of which were built like if not just as big as Gordon to heroin. They used off an on for a long time before they passed.
Coke also would make you hit the gym pretty hard lol.
I lost a friend named Mark O a few years back to the same thing.
Super built - jacked - and even did some personal trainer work. Great guy with demons he couldn't shake.
jc
In any case, I hope Gordon seeks out the help he clearly needs. At some point, he is going to run out of football chances. Age and inactivity will catch up to the best of athletes, and that's assuming he keeps getting chances from the NFL office (which seems pretty likely based on precedent, but is not guaranteed.)
I can't help but think this whole thing ends very badly for Gordon.
Has he been reinstated, yet?
I bet he is in a Steelers or Ravens uniform next.
"Yo, Lamar, try some of this stuff."
"I don't think that's a good idea, Josh."
"Come on man, one time. It's legit, I swear. I got it from my boy Johnny."
Gordon has met every one of my expectations. Ban him again? Who has done more damage to the game? Myles or Josh (or Goodell)?
Discipline should effectively change behavior.
Well, at least dude has some working capital while he's awaiting his sixth reinstatement...
Report: Josh Gordon sells Super Bowl LIII ring for $138K at auctionMike Reiss
ESPN Staff Writer
Wide receiver Josh Gordon's championship ring from Super Bowl LIII, which he was gifted by the New England Patriots despite not playing in the game, has sold for $138,000 at a sports auction, according to SportsCollectorsDaily.com.
Gordon, 29, played in 12 games for the Patriots in their 2018 Super Bowl championship season but was suspended by the NFL in December of that year and missed the playoffs, which included a 13-3 victory over the Los Angeles Rams in Super Bowl LIII.
He was reinstated in 2019, when he returned to the Patriots as a restricted free agent. Gordon played in six games for the team that season, totaling 20 receptions for 287 yards and one touchdown, before he was waived.
The Seattle Seahawks claimed Gordon, who appeared in seven games and totaled seven receptions for 139 yards, before the NFL suspended him on Dec. 16 for violations of the league's policies on performance-enhancing substances and substances of abuse.
It was his sixth suspension since the 2013 season and the fifth for some form of substance abuse, according to ESPN Stats & Information. Gordon's attorney, Adam Kenner, told ESPN that Gordon had a setback after the death of his brother in the fall of 2019.
Gordon officially applied for reinstatement in June, sources told ESPN. In early August, Seahawks coach Pete Carroll said the team was "very open" to possibly bringing Gordon back if he was reinstated.
"Josh did a really good job with us last year," Carroll previously said. "He fit in really well. He was part of this team by the way we opened and embraced his coming to us, but also by the way he adapted. So we are very open to that thought, and we'll see what happens."
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2978...ng-138k-auction
Can't believe the guy is still under 30. So much talent and time wasted. "Time wasted" if it was football he figured would build his life. If not, maybe he found something else more fruitful/enjoyable.
I've said this before but over the years I've been to dozens of training camps and I've never seen a better player up close than Josh Gordon.
Leigh Bodden is second.
what a disappointment.
literally anyone of us on this board would've done better if we had HALF of the talent this guy possessed.
Can't believe the guy is still under 30. So much talent and time wasted. "Time wasted" if it was football he figured would build his life. If not, maybe he found something else more fruitful/enjoyable.
Can't believe they would even consider giving him another shot.
Even more so, seems like that he got multiple shots, MUCH faster AFTER being released from the Browns.
I say this with a heavy heart and some hesitation, but I hope the guy lives past 40.
Enough. DQ him for life. Makes NFL look silly. I am all for fairness, but I draw the line at undue process where there is no bottom line to end the repeating loop. He has earned this, and everyone has worth, even if that is to serve as a bad example. JMO.
Dudes got more lives than a cat ..
WR, SEATTLE SEAHAWKS
Seahawks re-signed WR Josh Gordon.
SOURCE: Jeremy Fowler on Twitter
Sep 3, 2020, 11:09 AM ET
Dudes got more lives than a cat ..
WR, SEATTLE SEAHAWKS
Seahawks re-signed WR Josh Gordon.
SOURCE: Jeremy Fowler on Twitter
Sep 3, 2020, 11:09 AM ET
Lets face it, Gordon is a pretty darn impressive player. He's got skills. So if you can keep him on your team, he's an asset.
Can you imagine Landry, OBJ and him on the same team? Yikes.
But he can't stay off whatever drug he takes.... I'm glad he's not here anymore
Has Gordon ever finished a season without doing something to get suspended before the next?
I wish the NFL would just treat pot like alcohol and then put in a three strike rule for indefinite suspensions. I mean seriously, at this point, why does Gordon deserve to be reinstated? What could he have possibly done during this suspension that makes Goodell think he won't do it again? smh
Somewhere out there, there is a guy on the bubble that might have become a great player if he had that roster spot for a season or two to prove himself. Meanwhile Gordon will never get out of his own way to become a great player.
Somewhere out there, there is a guy on the bubble that might have become a great player if he had that roster spot for a season or two to prove himself. Meanwhile Gordon will never get out of his own way to become a great player.
Agreed.
I'd suspend him for selling the ring.
I think 3 suspensions for the same infraction should be enough for permanent dismissal. At some point you realize they aren't going to change.
Point of discipline is to modify behavior. Goodell and a number of clubs haven't managed that. So he is a gifted player, and his time with us was proof. He seems to work hard and can follow rules at his convenience. Just will not. Has he finished a season, put in a full one for anyone in the NFL? Enough.
We don't gotta get this guy.
Lmao it literally feels like a Twilight Zone. Like I’ve relived this same thread for a decade
1646 YDS in 14 games with Weeden, Hoyer and Jason Campbell at QB. Stupid good
https://twitter.com/afc2nfc/status/1334669838023876609
Josh Gordon's first two seasons were HISTORIC.
In their first 2 years, players with at least 2,450 rec yds and 130 rec:
JOSH GORDON
Jerry Rice
Randy Moss
Odell Beckham Jr.
https://twitter.com/CBSSportsHQ/status/1334605381730000903
Brandon Weeden: underappreciated around here, almost to the level of
William Green Rb.
Well, you know what they say...17th time is the charm!
Per source, Josh Gordon and the Seahawks were notified today that he has not satisfied all terms of his conditional reinstatement. He may attend team meetings and individual workouts but he is ineligible at this time to participate in practices or games.
https://twitter.com/bcondotta/status/1341556302607044612
I say this as someone that was devoutly in his corner over and over again..... is anyone actually surprised at all?
He was gonna fulfill his commitment... but then he got high.
He was gonna cancel his final shipment... then he got high... bah-da-da.
Seahawks' Josh Gordon ineligible to practice after setback in battle with substance abuse, per report
By Jordan Dajani
1 hr ago
It appears the Seattle Seahawks will not be adding wide receiver Josh Gordon this week. On Tuesday night, Bob Condotta of The Seattle Times reported that both Gordon and the Seahawks were notified that the troubled wideout had not satisfied all terms of his conditional reinstatement. At this point in time, he is reportedly allowed to attend team meetings and individual workouts but is ineligible to participate in practices or play in games. According to Tom Pelissero of the NFL Network, Gordon had a "setback" in his battle with substance abuse, and won't be allowed to practice or play indefinitely.
On Sunday, it was reported that Gordon could join the team for the remaining two regular-season games. Per Pelissero, Gordon reported to the team with only seven percent body fat and at around 238 pounds. He appeared more than ready to suit up for the huge divisional matchup against the Los Angeles Rams on Sunday, but now it appears that won't happen.
The Seahawks were always big fans of Gordon, and even wanted to re-sign him after he was suspended for the fifth time due to violating the NFL's PED policy. Gordon was claimed off waivers by Seattle on Nov. 1 of last year, and caught seven passes for 139 yards in five games last season.
Unfortunately, Gordon's career has been defined more by his time off the field rather than his accomplishments on the gridiron, but when he has been on the field, he has been excellent. His 2013 season is still one for the Cleveland Browns history books, as he caught 87 passes for 1,646 yards and nine touchdowns in 14 games. In 63 career games, Gordon has caught 247 passes for 4,252 yards and 20 touchdowns while averaging 17.2 yards per reception.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/seaha...use-per-report/
This makes me sad. It really does.
As someone who found himself 'at the precipice' during his early adulthood, I have always pulled for folks like Josh. I suppose I always will.
I was lucky. I had an incredibly strong support system in my corner. They not only held me tight during my worst moments, but they also chewed me raw during my most stupid moments. I was just smart enough to let them help me- and I found the path that has led me to this moment. I got to save my future because of the influences of everyone who had always been with me in my past.
We all know Josh's backstory. It's what made me pull so hard for him all this time. I wanted him to make it to 60, look back, and say: "I got to have this in my life. I got to have all of it."
It just hurts every time I see The Story play out like this.
I try to never forget that these Sunday Superheroes are real people. This young man will still have a life after he leaves the NFL. Whatever will become of him?
I will still hope for the best for him.
Again, I feel like we’re living in a time continuum theme Twilight Zone
I'm not sad... I'm somewhere between angry and disappointed... probably more disappointed...
kid had a ton of talent and was given multiple chances... sad to see...
I understand where you're coming from.
What bugs me about it is that he doesn't seem to care.
He just keeps doing it.
Does nobody around him care enough to help him get help?
What bugs me about it is that he doesn't seem to care.
He just keeps doing it.
Does nobody around him care enough to help him get help?
No, because he keeps surrounding himself with people that enable him - including the NFL itself that refuses to actually stick to holding him accountable for his actions.
What bugs me about it is that he doesn't seem to care.
He just keeps doing it.
Does nobody around him care enough to help him get help?
No, because he keeps surrounding himself with people that enable him - including the NFL itself that refuses to actually stick to holding him accountable for his actions.
I feel like, if he wants to smoke pot, it's not a big deal in the grand scale of life.
But it's against the NFL's rules.
So he needs to find an alternate career and that is where he needs help from a support system. Because "Just say no" doesn't work. Get a job, and then smoke all the weed he wants.
Groundhog Day is streaming again?
It'll be 24 years for me clean & sober on January 1st of this coming new year. Since I have some experience in matters like this I would just like to say I think there is a 'wising up' process that just isn't sinking in for Josh Gordon. Some people never learn, unfortunately.
Congrats! Success stories like yours give hope to those that are struggling.
Congrats! Success stories like yours give hope to those that are struggling.
Thank you very much.
Need to want it first, and he doesn't seem to want it. NFL has not provided consequences that have changed his behavior. Does Goodell have a number for barring him for good?
I hope JG gets better, somewhere other than the NFL.
https://www.nfl.com/news/seahawks-wr-jos...-conditional-reSeahawks WR Josh Gordon suspended indefinitely after NFL rescinds conditional reinstatementPublished: Jan 15, 2021 at 04:55 PM
Josh Gordon has been suspended, again.
The NFL rescinded the Seahawks wide receiver's conditional reinstatement Friday, leaving him suspended indefinitely.
Just three weeks ago, Gordon was added to Seattle's active roster and set to return to the field when he experienced a setback in his battle with substance abuse that broke the terms of his conditional reinstatement. He sat out the 2020 campaign following a December 2019 suspension. It was the third season he's missed entirely since breaking into the league in 2012.
The 29-year-old Gordon has been suspended six times by the NFL, playing almost the equivalent of four full seasons over the past nine years. He has 247 career receptions and was an All-Pro in 2013 with the Cleveland Browns.
At some point in time the nfl just needs to give him a lifetime ban, non negotiable.
At some point in time the nfl just needs to give him a lifetime ban, non negotiable.
Amen
I really, really wish this kid could have written himself a better story.
He could have re-written the record books.
Agreed. How many times are you allowed to give The Game these black eyes? This is stoopid!