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Posted By: Ballpeen What if the season is canceled? - 03/16/20 11:09 AM
I know it is still quite a ways off, but what happens?

Do the players still get paid?

Does the season count as far as free agency accrual for the players?

Will games still be played without fans in the stands?

Lot's of questions. I guess with baseball around the corner, what MLB does will give us a good indication of what the NFL might do even though baseball has minimal body contact as opposed to the other sports, but they are throwing a common ball around.

The best hope is this crisis goes away, and it will sooner or later, but right now it is looking like later.

Thoughts?
Posted By: HotBYoungTurk Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/16/20 12:35 PM
I think the league could come up with a modified off season program..

Continue with any activities that can be done via phone or video conferencing.. ie Free Agency.. Draft..

Send out playbooks to anyone on roster to have that in their hands.

Players can do individual workouts.

Scrap the Voluntary camp, and delay any team activities until early June. When its go time, players MUST show up.

If things don't look on the up before June, then just delay everything, and next years off season would just be shorter, which would be a win for fans anyway. lol.

I don't have all the answers, and probably not the right ones, but those are some thoughts off the top of my head.
Posted By: bbrowns32 Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/16/20 12:38 PM
I believe that there are to be no team visits for draft=eligible players and I fully expect that the draft will be conducted by video conferencing. I don't forsee the draft being cancelled...
Posted By: Damanshot Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/16/20 01:00 PM
The Draft is a big Hype machine. You really don't need that hype to effectively carry on the draft. I suspect that they'll have the draft but virtual vs being somewhere to make a big deal out of it.

I got no idea how they'll handle OTA's and Camp
Posted By: mgh888 Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/16/20 01:25 PM
I think there is every chance the crisis is ongoing come the start of preseason ... but my hope is that we are in control and have the ability to instantly test and see results. If so I could see the season going ahead - potentially without fans in stands - but with players and officials and team staff all tested before and after games.

The draft can all be done remotely and can be done without the hoopla that it has become. I still hate Thursday night starts ... much too Hollywood for me.
Posted By: Punchsmack Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/16/20 02:05 PM
The biggest and maybe realistic hope for mid-summer is that we've found some kind of antiviral medicine to lower the risk of the severe symptoms. Meaning, we can lower the mortality rate for those at risk. That could elevate stress on the hospitals and reduce the fear among the public. And yes, with instant testing, they'd be able to quarantine people faster.

We should know a helluva lot more about the virus by then. Think about this, almost every scientist on the planet will be putting all else aside to help with this thing. The sheer amount of human hours put forth should and hopefully give us something to be positive about in late spring.

It's just a matter of waiting this thing out. I'm praying every 10 minutes that the smart humans out there can solve this puzzle.

Only then will we get to answer the question of whether or not we'll have a NFL season.

#GoScience
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/16/20 02:27 PM
I’ve heard and read a few different things that have me worried that this will linger into the fall .. if the season is canceled, I’m sure the owners will be generous smile

But in reality, there’s probably some modification/compromise in the CBA
Posted By: Bard Dawg Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/16/20 03:06 PM
I propose a round-robin, double elimination, all-teams, no-byes tournament right after draft.

2020: We play rock-paper-scissors for the Super Bowl. We avoid the lame halftime spectacle, and it can all be done via teleconferencing. Neat, sweet, we get to compete. I am sure the NFL competition committee will want to meddle in this muddle, but, hey, instant replay and non-calls are possible. Everything else is hype-covered excess and merchandising, so business as usual. Big win for the money ballers.

Wish i was seriously joking.
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/16/20 03:17 PM
If we are lucky things will be getting back to normal around July. That allows for the NFL to start on time. I don’t think we’ll be lucky.
Posted By: Dave Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/16/20 03:23 PM
Posted By: FATE Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/16/20 03:25 PM
Makes sense.
Posted By: Dave Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/16/20 03:27 PM
I would guess they'll stage it in Vegas next year and push Cleveland to 2022.
Posted By: Milk Man Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/16/20 03:44 PM
Originally Posted By: bbrowns32
I believe that there are to be no team visits for draft=eligible players and I fully expect that the draft will be conducted by video conferencing. I don't forsee the draft being cancelled...


Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/16/20 05:37 PM
Originally Posted By: Dave
I would guess they'll stage it in Vegas next year and push Cleveland to 2022.
i wonder if they’d be able to
Posted By: DeisleDawg Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/16/20 10:51 PM
Might be the first season the Browns don't suck and let the greatest fan base ever down...

I really don't care about the over paid athletes as much as the single moms losing their jobs in the Restaurants Bars Cinemas Gyms etc etc... Not just single moms..but all people who already struggle on a daily basis.

I know many good people who lost their jobs and they never made $5000 a day. Some of my close stripper friends asked if I could put a pole in my basement.. I said hell noooo.. It's going in the living room...
Posted By: bonefish Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/17/20 12:29 AM

OTA's are already suspended.
Posted By: Bull_Dawg Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/17/20 12:51 AM
The 2020 NFL season will be brought to you by Madden.
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/17/20 03:04 AM
If the season is canceled we will all pass Dawgs4Life in post count because there will be no gameday threads.
Posted By: jaybird Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/17/20 04:27 AM
Sure hope so
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/17/20 06:41 AM
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
If the season is canceled we will all pass Dawgs4Life in post count because there will be no gameday threads.


Just to be clear this was a joke. Dawgs4Life is the best.
Posted By: mac Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/17/20 01:40 PM
Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
I know it is still quite a ways off, but what happens?

Do the players still get paid?

Does the season count as far as free agency accrual for the players?

Will games still be played without fans in the stands?

Lot's of questions. I guess with baseball around the corner, what MLB does will give us a good indication of what the NFL might do even though baseball has minimal body contact as opposed to the other sports, but they are throwing a common ball around.

The best hope is this crisis goes away, and it will sooner or later, but right now it is looking like later.

Thoughts?


I think the possibility of the NFL's 2020-2021 season being cancelled is a very real.

There are just too many unknowns concerning this virus to be able to predict the future of the upcoming season.
Posted By: eotab Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/18/20 01:46 PM
Shut your mouth!!! fingerscrossed
Posted By: GMdawg Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/18/20 01:49 PM
If everybody is still grounded and unemployed football will be the least of our worries. frown
Posted By: GratefulDawg Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/18/20 07:34 PM
Posted By: bluecollarball Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/18/20 09:41 PM
My guess is that they would delay the season a month or so and/or play a few weeks without fans. It could be a shortened season as well. I think what MLB does will provide some clue as to how Goodell will go with it.

I don't know how they would handle it, but if you do do the above, do you reimburse fans who have tickets?

Covid19 isn't going away. How prevalent it is, is the question. So at some point, you have to grip it and rip it and live life. Viruses mutate too. Here we are though in 2020 where I was told as a kid back in the 80's we'd be rocketing to Mars but instead we are teaching people to wash their hands and cover their mouth when they cough....oh well...
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/18/20 10:50 PM
Originally Posted By: GMdawg
If everybody is still grounded and unemployed football will be the least of our worries. frown



Hey, I agree. Just trying to talk football and keep it level.


Stay safe everybody. Many stores now offer a senior hour from 7-8 to allow the hardest hit to by supplies before the mobs show up. Good move. We don't have large families. We buy for 1-2 and aren't going to get in to a fistfight over toilet paper.
Posted By: Spiritbro77 Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/19/20 06:17 AM
I will be very surprised if school/college/football starts up in the Fall. I think this thing is just getting started. I hope I am wrong about that... Everyone stay safe out there! Hopefully, this won't get as bad as Italy.
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/19/20 09:06 AM
Originally Posted By: Spiritbro77
I will be very surprised if school/college/football starts up in the Fall. I think this thing is just getting started. I hope I am wrong about that... Everyone stay safe out there! Hopefully, this won't get as bad as Italy.


I agree. Sticking a bunch of students in to dorm rooms isn't a good idea. It will all be online study.
Posted By: FloridaFan Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/19/20 01:05 PM
I think we will have meds to fight it by May/June. And things will start getting back to normal for most folks. Only the elderly and immune deficient will still be at risk, although much lower with available treatments.

Biggest concern, is if the virus goes through more mutations and previous immunities are not enough.
Posted By: Browns2020 Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/19/20 01:20 PM
The cratering of the economy, sports included, is flat out absurd. Ohio has a population 11.75 million people and only 88 cases so far. That translates to .000748% of the population. There is absolutely no reason to cancel or shut down anything.
Posted By: bonefish Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/19/20 01:42 PM

Glad we have your expert opinion.

My sister has known and worked with Dr. Anthony Fauci for over thirty years.

They dig a little deeper than the population divided by the number of reported cases.
Posted By: Browns2020 Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/19/20 01:48 PM
Sorry you cant handle facts. Those are facts not opinions.
Posted By: bonefish Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/19/20 02:07 PM

Maybe you should stick to what you know which is very little.

Your facts are changing by the hour.
Posted By: Browns2020 Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/19/20 02:16 PM
My facts are changing by the hour. Which still means it isn't even close to being signifcant.

So if what you do for work, and you went to your manager and said I wanna do this and your boss asks you, what are the chances of that happening, and you reply with .002% chance, you would get laughed out of his office
Posted By: Browns2020 Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/19/20 02:17 PM
I am still trying to figure out what you are good at. Looking at your posts, I would say ZERO
Posted By: Bull_Dawg Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/19/20 02:18 PM
Originally Posted By: Browns2020
There is absolutely no reason to cancel or shut down anything.


That is definitely just your opinion.

You want to stop this before there's a widespread explosion of cases. That's a quick, easy reason.

Exponential growth doesn't play around. Numbers can go up quickly.

How best to avoid such a case is opinion. Are cancellations necessary? I dunno. That's a fact. Have an opinion on it? That's fine. Calling it a fact? You do you, I guess.
Posted By: bonefish Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/19/20 02:25 PM

With each post you dig a deeper hole proving how little you know.

But that is a good thing so keep posting so everyone will get the point how little credibility you have.
Posted By: CapCity Dawg Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/19/20 02:28 PM
Originally Posted By: Browns2020
The cratering of the economy, sports included, is flat out absurd. Ohio has a population 11.75 million people and only 88 cases so far. That translates to .000748% of the population. There is absolutely no reason to cancel or shut down anything.


88 *confirmed* cases. This does not include anyone who has not yet been tested. There can be 100,000 in the state with the virus. Until they are tested, we do not know.

Diving 88 by the number of people in OH that has been tested, and whose results are in, might be a relevant ratio.
Posted By: YTownBrownsFan Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/19/20 02:34 PM
Originally Posted By: Browns2020
The cratering of the economy, sports included, is flat out absurd. Ohio has a population 11.75 million people and only 88 cases so far. That translates to .000748% of the population. There is absolutely no reason to cancel or shut down anything.


Perhaps the reason we have so few cases is because of the policies the Governor of Ohio has put into effect.

Even with what the state is doing, we are still ramping up in total cases each day ... and since we now have more test kits, those numbers may really increase, despite best efforts.
Posted By: jfanent Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/19/20 02:37 PM
Originally Posted By: Browns2020
The cratering of the economy, sports included, is flat out absurd. Ohio has a population 11.75 million people and only 88 cases so far. That translates to .000748% of the population. There is absolutely no reason to cancel or shut down anything.


You are ignorant. That number is for cases testing positive. It is damn near impossible to test people here, even those with positive symptoms. I know people that are coughing and have fevers and can't get tested. People like you will cause deaths. Why don't you go on spring break, troll?
Posted By: jfanent Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/19/20 02:38 PM
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Posted By: bonefish Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/19/20 02:51 PM

Just from news as of today.

More likely than not that the season will not be played.

A vaccine would have to be available and deployed very quickly. From the news available now that does not appear likely.

I just read a forecast that the city of Madrid expects 80% of the population will get the virus.

Accurate or not there are so many unknowns at this point that making projections is a waste of time.

This is a different world than what we all have known.
Posted By: PrplPplEater Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/19/20 02:58 PM
At best, I expect the season will be delayed and shortened.... or, if played, played without fans.
Posted By: FL_Dawg Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/19/20 03:17 PM
Originally Posted By: PrplPplEater
At best, I expect the season will be delayed and shortened.... or, if played, played without fans.



Now that would be a strange day indeed.

Peradventure if Pigs will fly on that day too smile
Posted By: FATE Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/19/20 03:32 PM
I don't expect things to get rolling til late August. 10 or 12 game season is best case scenario. If the NFL is faced with playing without fans, it could be shortened further. A lot may depend on the fine print in the TV contracts.
Posted By: Browns2020 Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/19/20 03:59 PM
China has a population of 1.8 billion and only 3247 deaths as of today. That translates to an extremely small less than .0002% of their population. Clueless much? The season if anyone had a brain should go on as usual. But the gutless wonders that run the Leagues, Government and Businesses due to legal issues are shutting things down for a tiny segment of the population.

Let the games go on
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/19/20 04:03 PM
That's if you believe China's numbers.

Here's the bottom line. When very few people have access to the test, you won't have a lot of confirmed cases. The more people you test, the more cases you will find.

Tests are just now beginning to become more readily available. The case number will be rising rapidly.
Posted By: Browns2020 Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/19/20 04:06 PM
True on tests. However deaths are finite figures.
Posted By: Browns2020 Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/19/20 04:07 PM
Do you believe Ohio figures 88 cases, 0 deaths out of 11.75 million people.
Posted By: Browns2020 Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/19/20 04:08 PM
Do you believe California figures? 17 deaths out of 39.95 million people.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/19/20 04:13 PM
I can't post what I believe in response to your posts without getting banned.

You want to see what happens when this thing isn't handled right? Look at Italy.
Posted By: PrplPplEater Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/19/20 04:28 PM
Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
I can't post what I believe in response to your posts without getting banned.

You want to see what happens when this thing isn't handled right? Look at Italy.


We're going to be just like Italy; right after Spain, France, and Germany get there.


As for China, you will see them bloom again as soon as they begin to relax the strict lockdowns they implemented. I feel there is little chance that they keep the full-on lockdown going until they have zero unresolved cases, and that is really their only hope - anyone's hope - of clearing this.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/19/20 04:54 PM
People can be thick. They think that our nation lives in a bubble and refuse to look at the world. There are examples to look at if people would only open their eyes. And the fact that some refuse will cause the death count to rise among us all.
Posted By: PortlandDawg Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/19/20 05:16 PM
I’m a community nurse. I hope like hell people are being smarter than ‘Newfan2020’. I have to go visit people in their homes, retirement communities, and nursing homes. I don’t want to be a vector. People with flippant attitudes put me at risk along with those I serve.

And as a front line worker I can attest, we don’t have the proper protective equipment available to us. Not at my company, or many others. If, when, this thing explodes in the Portland metro area I’m going to be taking live fire.

This isn’t some hoax, or conspiracy, or just a flu, yada yada. This is my life.

Posted By: PitDAWG Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/19/20 05:37 PM
My sincerest hopes and prayers go out to you and several people I know in the healthcare field.
Posted By: Bull_Dawg Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/19/20 06:11 PM
j/c

Posted By: PrplPplEater Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/19/20 06:36 PM
That doesn't jive with the official numbers.
Posted By: PrplPplEater Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/19/20 06:38 PM
p.s. This will be getting moved as it really isn't 'Pure Football' anymore.
Posted By: YTownBrownsFan Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/19/20 09:27 PM
What if those people in Iran didn't die from COVID-19, but rather were executed by the Iranian regime? crazy
Posted By: Versatile Dog Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/19/20 09:54 PM
j/c:

I think ignoring the one dude might be wise.

To keep it about football, I agree w/Purp that the season will probably be delayed. It might be shortened, but there is a lot of money at stake and they could very easily extend the season into March if they had to.
Posted By: Browns2020 Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/19/20 09:55 PM
Lets look at Italy too. Their population is 60.4 million and they have as of a few hours ago 3408 deaths. That breaks down to .0056% of their population.

I know these facts dispute your fake outrage and hysteria but thats me. Facts are facts. Too bad it doesnt support your opinion
Posted By: Browns2020 Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/19/20 09:59 PM
Just because people are testing positive for the Corona doesnt mean anything. Football season may be delayed but it shouldnt be. The number of deaths vs the population size is a non issue. People die from more things at a higher percentange than this virus. Heck the normal flu has killed 20000 people way more than this. Sean Payton was just diagnosed

Posted By: jfanent Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/19/20 10:10 PM
Originally Posted By: Browns2020
Lets look at Italy too. Their population is 60.4 million and they have as of a few hours ago 3408 deaths. That breaks down to .0056% of their population.

I know these facts dispute your fake outrage and hysteria but thats me. Facts are facts. Too bad it doesnt support your opinion


...and the death rate is growing by the day. Your "facts" only hold water if the fatalities stop today...and they are doing nothing of the kind, they are increasing not only by the day, but also in numbers per day. Are you just going to sit back and wait until they reach some number in which you finally admit that there's a problem, and then say "my bad"?


In response to your other post, yes...you are ignorant, troll.
Posted By: Browns2020 Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/19/20 10:30 PM
And even though they are increasing by the day they aren't even close to approaching .10% of the population. This would have to go on for a year. LOL
Posted By: jfanent Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/19/20 10:45 PM
Originally Posted By: Browns2020
And even though they are increasing by the day they aren't even close to approaching .10% of the population. This would have to go on for a year. LOL


.10% of the population (1 per thousand) dying from this is your benchmark to consider it a problem?....and you're laughing? Ignorance is bliss, I guess.
Posted By: The Collector Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/19/20 11:31 PM
exponential growth is kinda difficult to understand...

here's a video for more insight...

If nothing was done.. and we didn't do a thing to flatten the curve.. which puts far more risk on those who are immunocompromised.

we'd be looking at about 4 million deaths. We as a nation see about 4.2 million deaths a year. This is why maintaining social distancing is such a thing.





This is also pretty informative

Posted By: lampdogg Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/20/20 01:11 AM
Lol, Jfanent! Edited to add ‘troll’!
Posted By: jaybird Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/20/20 01:12 AM
Originally Posted By: Browns2020
Sorry you cant handle facts. Those are facts not opinions.


The fact is currently there is an exponential trend of cases going on in the us.... that's why everyone shut down... if we stick with the current curve we are going to be in serious trouble...
Posted By: Versatile Dog Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/20/20 01:12 AM
Twice.
Posted By: lampdogg Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/20/20 01:16 AM
I get ya!
Posted By: SaintDawg Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/20/20 08:53 AM
Edited by jfanent (03/19/20 10:39 AM)
Edit Reason: to add "troll"

Flippin hilarious!!
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/20/20 10:23 AM
thanks for the videos. I saw something similar that outlined the effects of it (Imperial College report).
Posted By: The Collector Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/20/20 12:39 PM
The thought expiriment in the "its okay to be smart" video puts things into perspective real quick...


"If you had a pond, and in this pond you had lilly pads where they doubled each night

It takes 60 days to fill the entire pond... on what day would the pond be half as full"

The answer is day 59

How much for 1 percent?... the answer is day 54..."



if we look back into the thread... someone was talking about 1 percent of the population.

if this thing hits 1 percent... we're fricken screwed.
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/23/20 11:20 PM
Originally Posted By: Dave
I would guess they'll stage it in Vegas next year and push Cleveland to 2022.



OK...that brings up another question. Would they even have a draft next year if the colleges don't have a season? The guys we draft this year will more or less be rookies in 2021, if we even play that season.

If they did, would teams keep the same draft order as is this year? If not, how would it be seeded? Just a lottery of sorts?
Posted By: lampdogg Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/24/20 01:41 AM
That it a depressing thing to consider.

How about we get through March 2020?

And we will go from there.
Posted By: SaintDawg Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/24/20 07:56 PM
If it's cancelled the Haslam's will keep my season ticket payment plus the interest earned on it thru next year.
Posted By: Bard Dawg Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/24/20 09:40 PM
More money to be made for a few at the far end. WE might have a Replacements ball feel, but it would be welcome in whatever degree.

These are difficult times, but not for any without some moral sense. Those would be needing a TV presentation of one sort or the other.

Be well.
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/24/20 11:26 PM
Originally Posted By: SaintDawg
If it's cancelled the Haslam's will keep my season ticket payment plus the interest earned on it thru next year.




Hey, maybe why they gave 1.5 back?


I don't really think that. They have a history of being generous around the community, be it Cleveland or Knoxville.


Virus or not, we are at the age where we could croak for any number of reasons. We might be paying for tickets we never use.

Just saying.


As I tell my kids, when after I die and you see a player on the other team trip up, I did that.

I will be on that field.
Posted By: jfanent Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/25/20 12:27 AM
Originally Posted By: Browns2020
The cratering of the economy, sports included, is flat out absurd. Ohio has a population 11.75 million people and only 88 cases so far. That translates to .000748% of the population. There is absolutely no reason to cancel or shut down anything.


What a difference 5 days can make. I hope you weren't the man of the house.
Posted By: PerfectSpiral Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/25/20 05:35 PM
Quote:
What if the season is canceled?


We can always watch the last 20 years of Fantastic Brown’s replays. I’m good.
Posted By: PortlandDawg Re: What if the season is canceled? - 03/25/20 05:41 PM
NFL Network is airing the Browns v Seattle game now.
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