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Posted By: MemphisBrownie Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/27/22 02:34 PM
Browns line was -3 yesterday. Now, it's -1.5 most likely due to the Garrett news.
Posted By: bonefish Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/27/22 02:53 PM
The Falcons have a damn good offense.

They have talent at running back, receivers, and TE.

Cordarrelle Patterson, Drake London, Kyle Pitts. Mariota is a mobile quarterback who can negate a pass rush. His number are not bad except for 3 int's.

Obviously the status of Myles right now is unknown. Myles is our best player.

This will not be easy for our defense unless they improve and it will be challenge no matter what.
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Their defense is not so good. They have given up bad numbers in points and yards.

Strange to think but this maybe an offensive game.

They will be at home and coming off a win. I know they are looked at as a not very good team. But, I do not pay attention to that.

I do not see this as a easy game.
Posted By: AZBrown Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/27/22 03:07 PM
I'm going in assuming both Clowney and Garrett will be out.

For some reason, I'm a bit more concerned about JOK. I'm guessing the groin injury will be a nagging issue for some time. We could really use him vs. Mariota, as I think the safeties are going to have their hands full helping out with Patterson.

I expect little push with the front 4.
Posted By: MemphisBrownie Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/27/22 03:13 PM
Posted By: mgh888 Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/27/22 03:25 PM
Biggest challenge for the Browns this year. I think it will tell us a lot about how we might fare in the tough stretch of games vs Ravens, Bengals, Dolphins, Bills and Bucks (not to mention a nicked up Chargers week 5).

Atlanta is giving up 4.8 yards a carry vs the run - that's clearly the key to victory. Success running the ball, controlling the time of possession and limiting the Falcons opportunities. So very much a litmus test of Stefanski as a play caller and time manager.

On defense we need to get the secondary in shape and on the same page or it's going to get gashed for big chunks. Clowney, MG and JOK all potentially out or limited is a huge blow. But gives us a peak at what the depth looks like. Injuries happen to every team even if this seems extreme for week 4.... Joe Woods - we're all looking at you pal ! I think being an away game hurts even more with the injuries.

Hoping Mariota doesn't kill us with his legs if we manage to control the passing game. Hoping Chubb gets another 100+ yards and a couple of TD. Hoping Brissett maintains his play. Hoping there are no more injuries. . . . and predicting a W.
Posted By: Iluvmyxstripper Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/27/22 03:32 PM
If Brissset throws the ball 18 times I will be shocked
Don't be surprised if Jermaine Ford gets a few touches
But if Atlanta gets a early lead it could be a uphill climb
For the Browns
Kyle Pitts is a cause for concern. He simply is a unicorn
Posted By: Versatile Dog Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/27/22 03:46 PM
j/c:

As the season unwinds, it becomes easier to understand team's strengths and weaknesses and the numbers become more relevant.

Some Numbers:

Offense

Yards per game: ATL at 354.3 [14th overall] Browns 378.7 [5th]

Points per game: ATL w/26.7 [9th]. Browns 28.3 [6th]

Defense:

Yds per game: ATL 380.7 [23rd overall] Browns 323.7 [14th]

Pts per game: ATL at 27.0 [26th] Browns at 25.7 [23rd]

Turnovers:

Atlanta is minus 2 [Tied for 24th]. Browns plus 2 [Tied for 6th overall]

Key Matchups:

--The Browns OL vs Atlanta's pass rush. The Falcons have the same number of sacks as the Browns at 7. They are also in the top 10 in QB pressures. The OL must protect Jacoby when we pass. Conversely, Atlanta would benefit a lot by creating hurried throws and getting sacks which puts the Browns behind the chains and negates the Browns running game.


--Turnover battle. Mariotta has 3 picks this year and has 39 career fumbles. He has put the ball on the ground 5 times this year and lost 3 of those fumbles. Hopefully, Clowney returns and we can get some pressure on him. Might want to incorporate some timely blitzes.

--Atlanta's playmakers vs Browns defense. Pitts, Patterson [one of the league's most overlooked players] and London. Our D has looked shaky at times, especially against the pass.

--Browns running game vs Atalanta's defense. The Falcons are 16th against the run, giving up 109.3 yds per game. They are giving up 4.8 yds per attempt, which is tied for 20th in the league and as we all well know, the Browns have a very good OL and RBs.
Posted By: bonefish Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/27/22 03:52 PM
I don't like this game.

Mariota is a very good runner. We have given up big yards to quarterbacks who can run up the middle.

Their offensive weapons are not good matchups for our defense.

IMO this game should be played offensively much like the Steeler game. Time of possession and control of the LOS will be huge.

We need to possess the ball. Move the chains. Long slow drives to keep the defense off the field.

Will be missing key players. Walker for sure. Clowney, JOK, Myles all questionable. We need Clowney if Myles is out.

Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/27/22 04:13 PM
High scoring game ahead. I don’t see us stopping them .. and hopefully vice versa.

Our defense is not good. Take away myles and that’s a scary proposition.

I expect a heavy dose of points and yards for them.

2-2 upcoming in my opinion
Posted By: Versatile Dog Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/27/22 04:18 PM
One other key might be the tight ends in this game.

Since 2021 and through the first 3 games of 2022, Atlanta has given up 121 receptions to TEs, which is the 4th worst in the NFL. The Browns are not far behind at 113, which is 6th worst.

Atlanta has allowed 1,518 receiving yards to TEs in that time period which is 3rd worst in the league. The Browns have given up 1,244 yards, which is 8th worst in the NFL.
Posted By: Versatile Dog Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/27/22 04:23 PM
One thing that has been not mentioned too much are the quarterbacks. It's only 3 games, but Jacoby has a clear statistical advantage in almost every category. QBR, Completion 5, TD/Int ratio, fumbles, Yds per game, and Sacks taken.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/27/22 04:35 PM
Originally Posted by Versatile Dog
One thing that has been not mentioned too much are the quarterbacks. It's only 3 games, but Jacoby has a clear statistical advantage in almost every category. QBR, Completion 5, TD/Int ratio, fumbles, Yds per game, and Sacks taken.
He’s definitely played very well. I no longer feel uneasy with him in control.

I do worry about Mariota beating us with his legs. That’s an element we haven’t had to worry about yet this year much
Posted By: SuperBrown Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/27/22 06:41 PM
No edge rushers, no interior defensive lineman, no linebackers and a crappy secondary does not bode well for us.

Brissett will need to score quickly and often.
Posted By: bonefish Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/27/22 06:41 PM
Their defense lacks talent overall.

I believe scoring on them will not be to hard.

I am hoping we can make them earn their yards on offense. And stay away from giving up chunk plays.

Posted By: PastorMarc Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/27/22 08:27 PM
Wow you guys act like they are the second coming of the 1972 Dolphins and we are that 1-31 team from a few years ago .... SHEEEEEESH rolleyes willynilly
Posted By: Versatile Dog Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/27/22 08:30 PM
I don't feel that way. I put several key matchups in my first post and then added the TE aspect. Not even one comment. Just doom and gloom.
Posted By: PastorMarc Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/27/22 08:38 PM
Originally Posted by Versatile Dog
I don't feel that way. I put several key matchups in my first post and then added the TE aspect. Not even one comment. Just doom and gloom.

I read your post Vers and it was a very good layout of both team's strengths and weaknesses, the Browns are clearly the better team but we are better than the Jets too, nevertheless I see us winning by double digits ... GO BROWNS.!
Posted By: Swish Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/27/22 08:47 PM
Patterson is gonna be a huge problem for this defense, IMO.

Get well Myles, as i expect him to be out for this game (as he SHOULD). dunno if Clowney will be back, or at 100%, and i dont really trust the D line holding up against the run. I think mariota is gonna dink and dunk us to death because he's gonna have plenty of opportunities to scramble for easy yards and keep playing alive with the lack of pass rush. the Falcon's O is middle of the pack, but they ARE 5th in rushing. and with a dysfunctional secondary, i can see us in a situation where we need jacoby to throw more than usual.

i think we still win this game because while our defense is dysfunctional, the falcons defense is trash. they are giving up 110 yards a game on the ground, and 271 through the air. our offensive playmakers are gonna eat, so we just need to limit the drops. The key matchup is again dealing with the defensive side of the ball, as it's gonna come down to how long our offense can keep our defense on the sidelines, and how quickly the defense can get off the field, limiting the amount of opportunities Patterson touches the football.

this will be the first game of the season where we can see a mini shootout throughout the game, and we might not get away with controlling the clock as long as we're use to because we have to score quick due to the defense getting destroyed.
Posted By: Milk Man Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/27/22 10:00 PM
Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie
Browns line was -3 yesterday. Now, it's -1.5 most likely due to the Garrett news.

I think I'm taking the over 50 points.
Posted By: RememberMuni Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/27/22 11:54 PM
This isn’t a pushover game. Mariota has been playing well, and they have Cordarelle Patterson and Kyle Pitts. Gotta hope that Stefanski and co. put together a winning game plan- and coach a complete game. It would be indicative of completely inept coaching for this team to be 2-2 after playing 4 of the worst teams in the nfl. 3-1 I could stomach.
Posted By: Rishuz Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/28/22 12:15 AM
This should be a pushover game if the defense plays to their abilities.
Posted By: SuperBrown Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/28/22 01:08 AM
Originally Posted by Rishuz
This should be a pushover game if the defense plays to their abilities.

What defense??????????????????????
Posted By: FATE Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/28/22 02:38 AM
Originally Posted by Milk Man
Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie
Browns line was -3 yesterday. Now, it's -1.5 most likely due to the Garrett news.

I think I'm taking the over 50 points.

In 1966 we topped that total... in the 14 meetings since, we've tied it -- once.
Posted By: lampdogg Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/28/22 02:57 AM
We seem to do well against Atlanta. Botch Davis was our coach in our 1992 playoff year, when we won the finale (my only Browns game); Romeo and Pettine, plus Gregg Williams iirc, also coached us to wins over the Falcons. Just some off the top of my head trivia.
Posted By: Milk Man Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/28/22 04:13 AM
Originally Posted by FATE
Originally Posted by Milk Man
Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie
Browns line was -3 yesterday. Now, it's -1.5 most likely due to the Garrett news.

I think I'm taking the over 50 points.

In 1966 we topped that total... in the 14 meetings since, we've tied it -- once.

Perfect! Just doubled down on it. tongue
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/28/22 09:24 AM
It is one of the higher o/u in the NFL this week so I agree … over 50 seems good
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/28/22 09:27 AM
The only odds I care about are the odds I will be watching the game from my recliner in front of the big screen, in my own home. They are a lock.

I don't get to do that very often for a day game. For those occasional night games I usually say I am going to "just rest my eyes" for a moment or two at the half.

I think everybody knows how that story goes...lol
Posted By: FATE Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/28/22 02:56 PM
I'm sure it will feel good to be home. You had a crazy week. Glad you were able to fit in a Guards game as well!
Posted By: BpG Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/28/22 03:19 PM
Marcus Marriotta is a bottom 10 if not bottom 5 QB in this league. This is a game marked as a W on the sheet.

Losing to this team would be worse than losing to the Jets. Simply cannot happen going into Pats, Bengals, Bills. Just can't go 2-2 into that because without Watson, from 2-2 we are likely into losing record territory.

3-1 maybe 4-1 into 4-3 in much more manageable for the playoffs. If this team wants to make the playoffs they have to beat this bad, lightweight tanking team.
Posted By: PrplPplEater Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/28/22 05:18 PM
Originally Posted by lampdogg
We seem to do well against Atlanta. Botch Davis was our coach in our 1992 playoff year, when we won the finale (my only Browns game); Romeo and Pettine, plus Gregg Williams iirc, also coached us to wins over the Falcons. Just some off the top of my head trivia.

Let's do the Time Warp, again!

It was 2002, not 1992 wink
Posted By: dawg66 Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/28/22 05:21 PM
This is a game we need to win if we consider us a playoff caliber team, it's also a game we should win if you look at the talent level of each team. The only way I can see us losing is if we pull another Jets game where we give them chance after chance to beat us and we screw up allowing that to happen.

The Atlanta defense is ranked 15th in rushing yards allowed per game but that is deceiving because they are giving up yards at an average of 4.8 yards per carry, so Offensively we need to run the ball and run the ball some more to keep it out of Atlanta's hands and to wear their defense down for the 4th quarter. Defensively our greatest concerns have to be Patterson and Mariota running the ball and Pitts in the passing game, with that said I would stack the line, let JOK spy on Mariota and double team Pitts. Make Atlanta throw the ball to their WRs and hope that our corners can play up to their abilities.
Posted By: lampdogg Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/28/22 05:50 PM
Thanks for the correction. I wasn’t even in the right century
Posted By: dawglover05 Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/28/22 06:05 PM
Bro, you weren't even in the right millennium. wink
Posted By: FATE Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/28/22 06:44 PM
rofl
Posted By: HotBYoungTurk Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/28/22 07:51 PM
Since like 2005, we've beat the Falcons at home. I know because I've been to each game, and will be at this one too.

Not worried about the offense, its our defense.

Woods is gonna have to scheme up pressure, as Myles and Clowney will probably be out.
Really gonna need our defensive depth to play a full 60 - the LB's and D-Line worry me. Secondary, not so much. Our CB and S room is DEEP.
Posted By: dawglover05 Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/28/22 09:55 PM
I actually think the only time we lost to them since our return was in 2010. '02 was the "Run William Run!" game. 2006, we beat Vick in the dome. I think that was his last season playing for them. 2010 we had Hillis going wild, but lost. 2014 was, I believe, our last victory of the season, when Josh Gordon fooled us all into thinking he would be back permanently. 2018 was the "Chubbawubbahubb!" game, or the "Hasta La Vista, Baby!" game, depending on which broadcast you listened to.

Don't ask me how I remember all this. I remember weird things.
Posted By: lampdogg Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/28/22 10:46 PM
Originally Posted by FATE
rofl
Originally Posted by dawglover05
Bro, you weren't even in the right millennium. wink


Lol! I couldn’t think of that damn word when I posted that.
Posted By: lampdogg Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/29/22 03:20 AM
I think we should try the run game this week. We should be able to get a couple first downs. Chubb/Hunt. Rewind it and play again.
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/29/22 09:25 AM
We seem to have problems with tight ends, and Pitts is as good as it gets in that department. If we don't contain him, it might make for a long day. We might be best served to play more man or he will zone gap us to death.

This sets up as a classic "trap" game. We need to be aware.
Posted By: Versatile Dog Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/29/22 12:21 PM
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
We seem to have problems with tight ends, and Pitts is as good as it gets in that department. If we don't contain him, it might make for a long day. We might be best served to play more man or he will zone gap us to death.

This sets up as a classic "trap" game. We need to be aware.

In case you missed it, please consider what I posted earlier about how each team defends TEs.

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One other key might be the tight ends in this game.

Since 2021 and through the first 3 games of 2022, Atlanta has given up 121 receptions to TEs, which is the 4th worst in the NFL. The Browns are not far behind at 113, which is 6th worst.

Atlanta has allowed 1,518 receiving yards to TEs in that time period which is 3rd worst in the league. The Browns have given up 1,244 yards, which is 8th worst in the NFL.
Posted By: Versatile Dog Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/29/22 03:59 PM
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Chubb, Browns face 'heavyweight' run test against Falcons
9:53 AM ET
AP

ATLANTA -- — Falcons coach Arthur Smith knows what to expect from a Cleveland Browns offense that revolves around Nick Chubb's powerful runs.

"They're coming to mash you," Smith said.

Smith wants Atlanta's rushing attack led by Cordarrelle Patterson to mash back.

Chubb, the NFL's leading rusher, and Patterson, who ranks third, will be in the spotlight in what Smith expects to be a "heavyweight fight" of running games on Sunday.


This will be Chubb's first NFL game played in his home state. The Cedartown native previously played at Mercedes-Benz Stadium during his college career at Georgia.

Chubb says Cleveland's run-first offense wears down defenses.

"Things start to open up," Chubb said. "I can't really see them getting tired, but at the end of the game things do start opening up a lot easier."

Browns quarterback Jacoby Brissett says the Browns' running game is no secret.

"I mean, yeah, teams know we're going to run the ball and we still run the ball," Brissett said.

The Browns (2-1) and Falcons (1-2) are the league's only teams to score at least 26 points in every game.

"Everybody sees the tape; it's going to be a really physical game on Sunday," Smith said. "They're going to try to run Nick Chubb 500 times and we got to stop him, and we're going to try to run the ball and play our game, too."

Brissett has disproved doubters who believed the Browns couldn't win until quarterback Deshaun Watson returns in December from his 11-game suspension for alleged sexual misconduct. Brissett threw two touchdown passes in Cleveland's 29-17 win over Pittsburgh on Sept. 22.

Patterson, formerly a wide receiver and return specialist, has set career rushing highs in two of Atlanta's first three games, including his 141 yards in last week's 27-23 win at Seattle.

The Browns may be without All-Pro defensive end Myles Garrett, who suffered a sprained shoulder, strained biceps, cuts and bruises when he flipped his Porsche in a one-car crash on Monday.

MORE THAN A RECEIVER

Second-year Atlanta tight end Kyle Pitts made fantasy players happy when he had five catches for 87 yards last week. Pitts had only four catches for 38 yards in the first two games.

Smith said the tight end's value is based on more than his catches, pointing to his contributions in the running game.

"He's really becoming a complete player," Smith said.

OFFENSIVE ROLL

Watson will claim the starting job when he returns in December. Brissett is making a case he should be starting for some team, if not Cleveland.

The 29-year-old Brissett has exceeded expectations, leading the Browns to a pair of wins while completing 74% (43 of 58) of his passes in the past two games. Brissett has developed chemistry with wide receiver Amari Cooper and he's spreading the ball around to make all of Cleveland's playmakers happy.

Brissett believes the Browns' offense can be even better.

"The reasons why we haven't scored on every drive has been us," he said. "It's been things that we haven't (done) and we're still trying to correct."

RUN GAME DEPTH

Chubb has had strong support from backup Kareem Hunt as the Browns lead the NFL in rushing. The Falcons rank fifth with quarterback Marcus Mariota providing help for Patterson.

Mariota and Baltimore's Lamar Jackson are the only quarterbacks with two rushing touchdowns this season.

BUSTED-UP BROWNS

In addition to Garrett, the Browns had four other defensive starters miss practice this week.

End Jadeveon Clowney (ankle), cornerback Denzel Ward (ribs, back), linebacker Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah (groin) and tackle Taven Bryan (hamstring) were also sidelined.

Browns linebacker and captain Anthony Walker Jr. suffered a season-ending quadriceps injury against Pittsburgh.

With Garrett and Clowney hurting, the Browns may need to rely on some rookies, including end Alex Wright.

THE QUIET MAN

Chubb doesn't have much to say during his weekly media sessions.


"He talks to me," Brissett told reporters. "I just don't think he likes to talk to you guys."

Chubb is loud when it matters — between the tackles and inside the yard makers.

Last week against Pittsburgh, Chubb ran for 113 yards, picking up 86 after initial contact while pin-balling off Steelers defenders, who made the mistake of trying to arm-tackle him.

Chubb has always had an effective stiff-arm, but he appears to be quicker and more elusive this season while relying on more jump cuts as he picks his way through holes.


https://www.espn.com/nfl/preview?gameId=401437749
Posted By: bonefish Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/29/22 08:30 PM
In the fourth quarter against the Steelers when the Browns got three consecutive three and outs.

You could see the Steeler front four start jawing at each other as they were getting gashed by the Browns.

They did not want to line up again and have our OL and then Chubb come at them. The way we run the wide zone blocking scheme. It wears on defensive lines. It requires more than just head on beat your man. They have to try and seal multiple gaps.

Chubb gets the ball and has options he keys off of. They put on a clinic against the Steelers.

It was so cool to see Cooper on one guy just school the guy. But it happened because of the pounding they dished out.
Posted By: bonefish Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/29/22 11:32 PM
Quincy gets into some good match-up stuff versus the Falcons

Posted By: tru_dawgs Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/30/22 12:38 AM
JC....

I'm not sure really what to expect on Sunday, But I have watched a lot of Atlanta this year.

Mariota- I always loved this guy, but he really tears up his body by always absorbing hits or lowering his shoulder into contact...Which leads to injuries and has a higher fumbling issue then I would assume most QBs. He can move fast (I think 4.48 speed coming into the NFL) Which is scary with out Dline comprised of all back-ups if Myles is out (I have a feeling Clowney won't play) a banged up 2nd level at LB (Walker out, JOK won't be 100 percent if he suits up) Coupled with a secondary that has had issues tackling and big miscommunication errors...I will not be surprised if Mariota scrambles right up the middle for an easy QB, as we leave it wide open.

His interceptions haven't been bad at all (Watch the two he threw in week 2, both went into the WRs hands...and right into a defender after...The other interception he tossed last week, was with 2 seconds left before halftime...which was a dumb play to begin with, as they should have taken a knee that deep...as it was at their own 25 yard line...and he doesnt have the arm for a hail mary that deep)

He doesn't have amazing arm strength, his accuracy wonders at times...However, he seems to be really comfortable in Arthur Smiths offense...A lot of quick plays and reads. He has basically only a rookie WR in Drake London (who reminds me of a bigger Crabtree) Kyle Pitts and him finally got on the same page last week, And Zacchearus...whom isn't great by any means. The WR/TE core is really weak. Patterson has been really showing up this year, and hes always been dangerous as a returner, WR, and his RB duties nowadays...But they have literally nothing behind him. Remember their best WR (Ridley) is suspended all year.

Oline has some talent with Jake Matthews and Lindstorm...McGary is a solid RT, however slow footed (Would have loved Clowney or Myles over him) I thought Hennessey would have won the C spot, but they have the kid from Stanford starting over him.

If I'm Atlanta I'm putting AJ Terrell on Amari, and shadow coverage on him and Njoku...Thus making Brissett rely on DPJ, Bell, Schwartz....Which doesn't really favor us. Their defense is more quick than stout....They are missing their best LB (Deion Jones) But they have stars with Grady Jarrett and Terrell...Carter seems to be a good fit in their odd front, safety talent is lacking. Isiah Oliver is on IR...And the young LBs have been missing gaps, and why I love Rashaan Evans at LB, he runs so cold at times.

Should be a fun game...and hopefully not a let down.
Posted By: Clemdawg Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/30/22 02:57 AM
good stuff, tru.
thanks!
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/30/22 09:11 AM
Thanks for the rundown buddy.

From the little Ive seen, their offense is really explosive and they’ll put up points
Posted By: Bard Dawg Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/30/22 01:06 PM
Well done, Tru! Gives me stuff to look for. We need to put the grind on the Birds. But this game will demand some aggression from Woods methinks. If we lay back in lazy zone with huge cushions, we can be had. Hope we put up points; I certainly expect them to do so.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/30/22 06:27 PM
Originally Posted by Bard Dawg
Well done, Tru! Gives me stuff to look for. We need to put the grind on the Birds. But this game will demand some aggression from Woods methinks. If we lay back in lazy zone with huge cushions, we can be had. Hope we put up points; I certainly expect them to do so.

Depending on the final injury report Woods may not have the ammunition to be aggressive. You can only run the game plan you have the talent to execute.
Posted By: Homewood Dog Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 09/30/22 11:51 PM
If we were healthy on D I would give us a very good chance at winning this game. Things being as they are it's a toss-up and we need this game badly. JMO
Posted By: THROW LONG Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 10/01/22 12:32 AM
Trap Game
Posted By: Milk Man Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 10/01/22 12:39 AM
j/c...

From Zac Jackson in The Athletic...

• Per FootballOutsiders.com DVOA rankings, the Browns are No. 2 in rush offense and No. 6 in pass offense. They’re No. 26 in rush defense and No. 21 in pass defense. I think you have to wait at least six weeks before you can really get a fair read on league-wide rankings of almost any kind, but DVOA rankings are weighted for opponent and situation.

• The Falcons’ DVOA rankings: No. 8 in rush offense, No. 9 in pass offense, No. 24 in rush defense, No. 27 in pass defense. Anyone else thinking Sunday could turn into a shootout? Or, more likely, another big day for the Browns’ run game led by Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt?
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 10/01/22 02:10 AM
Exactly. Both teams have looked great offensively. They don’t have the stable of backs we do, but they have dynamic playmakers
Posted By: Jcamm Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 10/01/22 10:24 AM
Games we should win we usually lay an egg
Posted By: Swish Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 10/01/22 11:34 AM
Originally Posted by THROW LONG
Trap Game

we're the browns. no such thing as a trap game.
Posted By: Iluvmyxstripper Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 10/01/22 01:42 PM
Don't be surprised if the Falcons run outside the edges
With Isiah Thomas and Alex Wright starting at DE.
Both DEs are not exactly known for being run stoppers
Or setting the edge.
The DTs are going to have to really push the pocket
Make Mariotta bring the ball and get uncomfortable
Posted By: mgh888 Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 10/01/22 01:45 PM
Originally Posted by Jcamm
Games we should win we usually lay an egg

I'll take games the Browns should have won easily but lost; for 100 please Alex.
Posted By: Rishuz Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 10/01/22 01:54 PM
Originally Posted by mgh888
Originally Posted by Jcamm
Games we should win we usually lay an egg

I'll take games the Browns should have won easily but lost; for 100 please Alex.

What is the New York Jets?
Posted By: Bard Dawg Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 10/01/22 02:13 PM
We seemingly have trap seasons . . . .

unleash the Elf!
Posted By: Versatile Dog Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 10/01/22 02:15 PM
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unleash the Elf!

We did. He's in Carolina.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 10/01/22 03:19 PM
The only elf we had left for a long time and returned as a troll.
Posted By: FATE Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 10/01/22 03:29 PM
rofl
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 10/01/22 03:51 PM
😂 😝
Posted By: mgh888 Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 10/01/22 03:55 PM
Originally Posted by Versatile Dog
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unleash the Elf!

We did. He's in Carolina.

Let go of the hate - it's eating your soul.
Posted By: Iluvmyxstripper Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 10/01/22 10:43 PM
I dont understand why people are so quick to defend
Baker Mayfield when he is criticized or make the brunt
Of funny quips or comments. It's like it is supposed to be
Immune from such remarks
Posted By: lampdogg Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 10/02/22 01:16 AM
I don’t understand why Baker is in the thread about the game this Sunday against the Falcons.... actually I do and it’s starting to get pathetic.
Posted By: BADdog Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 10/02/22 03:41 AM
As great as Chub is. Got to give credit to the Oline and Oline coach. He gets yards after contact because he often has a full head of steam before someone gets the opportunity to get a hand on him. Our guards kick butt.
Posted By: Clemdawg Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 10/02/22 03:50 AM
Originally Posted by THROW LONG
Trap Game

Could be, very easily.
Hope the coaching staff has the team grounded, focused, and ready to execute.

Biggest game of this young season.
Posted By: Clemdawg Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 10/02/22 04:09 AM
Originally Posted by BADdog
As great as Chub is. Got to give credit to the Oline and Oline coach. He gets yards after contact because he often has a full head of steam before someone gets the opportunity to get a hand on him. Our guards kick butt.

Steelers players/coach all talked about him: "Arm tackles don't work." "He gets stronger as the game goes on."

You're right. 24 is dictating to the D because he was set up well by the action in the trenches. If there is a bigass gaping hole, he'll hit it; if he needs a jump cut to get to level 2, it's almost always there.

It's a great blocking scheme, and we have the dudes to pull it off.


Finally, the Cleveland Browns have a O-Line worth of protecting Tim Couch.
(Does Tim Couch now have his walker/hoveround years before he's eligible for his Golden Buckeye card?)


Great OL = great results.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 10/02/22 09:30 AM
But i dont think a trap game could be defined as one where it’s basically a pickem game. Atlanta is a good offensive team. The best we’ll have seen by far IMO
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 10/02/22 09:47 AM
Originally Posted by Clemdawg
Originally Posted by THROW LONG
Trap Game

Could be, very easily.
Hope the coaching staff has the team grounded, focused, and ready to execute.

Biggest game of this young season.

It is.

Not because of the specific game, but rather due to where we are.

This game is a game where we start to separate away from a level record or fall back to a level record. This is the game that starts to push us above .500, and all good teams play above .500. The sooner in the season you can do that, the better the chances you remain there and even build from there.
Posted By: GratefulDawg Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 10/02/22 11:21 AM
Posted By: mgh888 Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 10/02/22 01:41 PM
With the injuries and with MG out - I'm expecting to see a high scoring game. Getting points and not punting on as many drives as possible will be more critical than normal.

With more time to throw for their QB, it's going to be uber important the secondary is on the same page. Blown coverages and chunk plays will really hurt.

Njoku might need to have his best game of the year, and someone else needs to help out Cooper. As it stands ATL should double Cooper every play, certainly key a man underneath to take away short completions to him.

Ultimately it may come down to just how good Stefanski's offense is - we've all seen him start games consistently with brilliant play calls. Only to stall in the second half if the other team adjusts or we need to make changes to keep up in high scoring games. We'll probably need to keep scoring TD's in the 3rd and 4th Q. As great as our run game is - and as weak as the ATL D appears to be against the run (4.8 yards per carry) - I think it's going to take the whole O to win today.
Posted By: Rishuz Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 10/02/22 01:49 PM
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Originally Posted by Clemdawg
Originally Posted by THROW LONG
Trap Game

Could be, very easily.
Hope the coaching staff has the team grounded, focused, and ready to execute.

Biggest game of this young season.

It is.

Not because of the specific game, but rather due to where we are.

This game is a game where we start to separate away from a level record or fall back to a level record. This is the game that starts to push us above .500, and all good teams play above .500. The sooner in the season you can do that, the better the chances you remain there and even build from there.

Reminder, the Browns were 3-1 last year.
Posted By: Iluvmyxstripper Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 10/02/22 02:11 PM
You would figure on a fast track a WR like Anthony Schwartz
Could be a factor. But he is so much of a bust he is not even
A factor in the gameplan
Posted By: Dawg Citizen Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 10/02/22 03:14 PM
The key to winning this game is running the ball, controlling the clock and keeping Atlanta's offense off the field as much as possible. I expect Pitts to have a big day for them, but I expect Chubb and Hunt to have a big day for us also. Look for a high scoring game with the Browns winning another close one.
Posted By: jfanent Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 10/02/22 03:18 PM
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The key to winning this game is running the ball, controlling the clock and keeping Atlanta's offense off the field as much as possible.

Absolutely this. thumbsup
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 10/02/22 03:43 PM
Originally Posted by mgh888
With the injuries and with MG out - I'm expecting to see a high scoring game. Getting points and not punting on as many drives as possible will be more critical than normal.

With more time to throw for their QB, it's going to be uber important the secondary is on the same page. Blown coverages and chunk plays will really hurt.

While I agree that's what we'll hope to see, one has to understand that DB's can only contain for so long. They can't continue to cover forever. So finding ways to pressure Mariota will be key. If you give any decent QB a consistent 3+ seconds in the pocket you're going to get burned.

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Njoku might need to have his best game of the year, and someone else needs to help out Cooper. As it stands ATL should double Cooper every play, certainly key a man underneath to take away short completions to him.

But that's the thing about having a balanced O. The more men you have in coverage the less men you have up front to stop the run. If you can get them to keep four or five men in coverage Chubb with this OL will control the clock and run the ball down their throat all day.

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Ultimately it may come down to just how good Stefanski's offense is - we've all seen him start games consistently with brilliant play calls. Only to stall in the second half if the other team adjusts or we need to make changes to keep up in high scoring games. We'll probably need to keep scoring TD's in the 3rd and 4th Q. As great as our run game is - and as weak as the ATL D appears to be against the run (4.8 yards per carry) - I think it's going to take the whole O to win today.

I think we've seen "the whole O" this entire season. They have put up 26, 30 and 29 points respectively. Brissett certainly hasn't had much production with the deep ball but has been very efficient with the passing game and all of those scores should lead your team to a win.
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 10/02/22 03:51 PM
Originally Posted by Rishuz
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Originally Posted by Clemdawg
Originally Posted by THROW LONG
Trap Game

Could be, very easily.
Hope the coaching staff has the team grounded, focused, and ready to execute.

Biggest game of this young season.

It is.

Not because of the specific game, but rather due to where we are.

This game is a game where we start to separate away from a level record or fall back to a level record. This is the game that starts to push us above .500, and all good teams play above .500. The sooner in the season you can do that, the better the chances you remain there and even build from there.

Reminder, the Browns were 3-1 last year.

No reminder needed, and really, last year doesn't mean anything when talking about this year. To me, 1 game over 500 is still tied to 500. Once we get 2 over we separate from 500.

No doubt if we win this week, we still want to go another game up.
Posted By: FrankZ Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 10/02/22 03:54 PM
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
No doubt if we win this week, we still want to go another game up.

And another and another and another... laugh
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 10/02/22 04:00 PM
I expect to see a Josh Dobbs package or two today.

Josh is from Alpharetta, Ga, a neighboring town with Atlanta. Maybe use him on two point try's and short yardage 3rd and 4th down plays.
Posted By: FATE Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 10/02/22 04:07 PM
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
I expect to see a Josh Dobbs package or two today.

Josh is from Alpharetta, Ga, a neighboring town with Atlanta. Maybe use him on two point try's and short yardage 3rd and 4th down plays.

That's a bold prediction.

I'll go bold... Felton breaks a punt return and is a tackle away from a TD... does he avoid that tackle?? Stay tuned.
Posted By: bonefish Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 10/02/22 04:10 PM
Because of Myles and Clowney not playing Woods must adapt.

We can expect pressure from the front four. Then add a mobile quarterback.

Woods will have to use different packages and blitzes. I would expect more zone and blitzes coming off those looks.

The offense will continue as it has been doing.

The personell on defense will force changes in plans.
Posted By: Milk Man Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 10/03/22 02:25 AM
Originally Posted by FATE
Originally Posted by Milk Man
Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie
Browns line was -3 yesterday. Now, it's -1.5 most likely due to the Garrett news.

I think I'm taking the over 50 points.

In 1966 we topped that total... in the 14 meetings since, we've tied it -- once.

Both history and FATE slapped me with a grim lesson today! The 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle is now gone but not forgotten.
Posted By: FATE Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 10/03/22 02:42 AM
At least you still have the Honus Wagner.
Posted By: Milk Man Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 10/03/22 03:19 AM
Originally Posted by FATE
At least you still have the Honus Wagner.

For now!
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Browns vs Falcons Matchup - 10/03/22 09:43 AM
Originally Posted by FATE
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
I expect to see a Josh Dobbs package or two today.

Josh is from Alpharetta, Ga, a neighboring town with Atlanta. Maybe use him on two point try's and short yardage 3rd and 4th down plays.

That's a bold prediction.

I'll go bold... Felton breaks a punt return and is a tackle away from a TD... does he avoid that tackle?? Stay tuned.

And one that never happened, though i think it may have helped in those short goal line situations.
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