Can't figure why those first two say sensitive content... although the elf does look like he's shooting lightning bolts from his groin.

Good chance to see/speak with family.

From his listed strengths and weaknesses- I'd pass quickly.

Browns have met with duo of speedy wide receivers at the combine

Cory Kinnan
March 3, 2023 12:39 pm ET

As the Cleveland Browns look to crawl out of the basement of explosive plays through the air offensively, they may even look to use the 42nd overall pick in the 2023 NFL Draft to accomplish that goal. At the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis, Indiana this week, the Browns have met with a duo of speedy wide receivers in Cincinnati‘s Tyler Scott and North Carolina‘s Josh Downs.

Downs, an electric route runner who is slippery after the catch, is my third-rated wide receiver in the class. Scott is not far behind him as the fifth-best in this odd class. Either one of these players would be a slam dunk for the Browns in the second round.

https://brownswire.usatoday.com/202...medium=trueanthem&utm_source=twitter

Browns meet with potential backup QB candidate at NFL Scouting Combine

Cory Kinnan
March 3, 2023 3:00 pm ET

The Cleveland Browns will have to move on from quarterback Jacoby Brissett as he will likely get an opportunity to start again elsewhere in 2023. The Arizona Cardinals, with the hire of his quarterbacks coach Drew Petzing as their offensive coordinator and the injury to Kyler Murray, make a great deal of sense for Brissett. While they still have Kellen Mond on their roster, currently slated as their backup quarterback, they have also met with a candidate at the NFL Scouting Combine in UCLA’s Dorian Thompson-Robinson.

Thompson-Robinson, a four-year starter for the Bruins, racked up nearly 3,200 yards through the air and 27 touchdowns in 2022. He added another 645 yards and 12 touchdowns on the ground as well. As the Browns look to transition to more shotgun action, perhaps a quarterback like Thompson-Robinson is a great fit behind Deshaun Watson.

https://brownswire.usatoday.com/202...medium=trueanthem&utm_source=twitter

One guy that really stands out to me in the receiver group is Zay Flowers.

I know we will not get a shot at him but he is fun to watch. I saw a picture where he really beefed up his small body.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/n...ound-transformation-eyes-round-spot.html


But put on his tape.


Just fun to watch. He will be like Tyreek Hill.

Hey, that's MY move!

Jeremiah said this draft is loaded with good TE's.

I am beginning to think that the Browns are not going to sign a free agent receiver.

Nor will they trade for one. IMO they will look for a guy in the draft.

Free agency will be about the defense. If healthy they will bring back Taki and Walker.

Dorian Thompson-Robinson had a very nice Combine. Threw the ball very well.

There it is...the solution to that goofy looking elf at mid-filed...add lighting bolt strikes from its groin. Perfect.

So from what it looks like they will get a WR in the draft, and after they restructure Watson's deal they will have about 37 million in cap room. With that cap room they are looking at Edge and Safety so that they can use the draft picks we do have on a D lineman, TE and LB.

Yeah as really hope they can sign players that really will help the team thrive and win. Quality players and character guys.

Go B-Dub!!!!!!!!

Dude had good PFF numbers. There is also this:


KARL BROOKS
BOWLING GREEN
DT

Prospect Info
COLLEGE
Bowling Green

HEIGHT
6’ 3’’
WEIGHT
303 lbs

Prospect Grade
6.25
Will Eventually Be Average Starter


Analysis
By Lance Zierlein
NFL Analyst

Overview
The inclination to shrug off Brooks’ production based on level of competition -- or because of questions about his positional fit -- might be a mistake. Brooks’ snap quickness, footwork, hand usage and motor are all translatable play qualities. His movement and counters are intuitive, allowing for quick access into the backfield. Against the pass, he frequently beat tackles as a bull rusher off the edge. Brooks has the size of a three-technique but the versatility and athleticism to move around a defensive front. He flashes disruptive, three-down talent as a future starter in a one-gap scheme.

Strengths
Two-time team captain with 48 career starts.
Explosive production in major categories.
Winning first-step quickness sets the tone.
Sets up rush moves with angles and hand usage.
Comes forward with a high level of urgency and activity.
Possesses plus burst to close in short spaces.
Gets sudden wins with slap-and-slide technique.
Reads and mirrors blocker’s stretch steps to beat the block.
Plays with unified hands and feet.

Weaknesses
Build carries shorter arms with smallish hands.
Could struggle shedding blocks quickly enough.
Below average force to neutralize drive power.
Gets pads turned through contact.


https://www.nfl.com/prospects/karl-brooks/32004252-4f13-2842-c7f3-69c8ea1b4c30

At Pro level, those stated weaknesses are SCARY- weak against drive power/ small arms/hands- pass.

Josina Anderson

Simpson is projected to go early in round 2. Here is a scouting report for him.


https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Trenton-Simpson-LB-Clemson

Completely off topic but this is the third time I was glancing at this thread and thought it meant the players were having some sort of players-only meeting. For a brief moment it scares me until I remember what it is about.

I actually think we could take Robinson if he is available where we have him slotted. We also met w/him at the Combine. He has a similar skill set to Watson.

If true, this makes a TON of sense.

I agree ... Dobbs 2M$ contract being fully guaranteed.

On the surface this seems like a very odd visit. He is expected to be a first or early second round pick almost everywhere and the Browns don't have a pick until #74 in the third round. Maybe something is up we don't know about or I can't see how this visit made any sense.

It's possible we are thinking about packaging one of our 3,4 and 5's to move into the 2nd round. That might be enough to do so and take a player we like. IMO, we still need a deep threat WR, another run stopping DT and a LB. A developmental OL would be nice too.

Did any Defensive Lineman who ever played at Bowling Green belong on the Browns? You don't go to Bowling Green to get players and ones who play in the trenches especially.

You scout the player, not the helmet. You never know where you might find a guy who can help a team.

I'm not saying I'd select Brooks early in the draft, but I wouldn't hold where he played against him. Plenty of "small school" guys have had successful NFL careers.

Fresno State QB Jake Haener takes pre-draft visit with the Browns

Cory Kinnan
April 5, 2023 8:11 pm ET

It appears the Cleveland Browns may be in the market for a backup quarterback beyond 2023. Despite signing Joshua Dobbs back to the team on a fully guaranteed contract, he is back on just a one-year deal. This means the Browns may be looking for a quarterback to compete with Kellen Mond on a rookie contract. First, they have spent time with UCLA quarterback Dorian Thompson-Robinson, and now they have brought in Fresno State quarterback Jake Haener for a visit before the 2023 NFL Draft.

Haener, a gamer who has consistently fought through hits to deliver strikes under pressure, is coming off of a pre-draft process where he was named the MVP of the Reese’s Senior Bowl. His ability to take hits and operate the short game at a high level makes it impossible not to see shades of Ryan Fitzpatrick or Taylor Heinicke.

Projected as a day-three pick, Haener could be the long-term backup to Deshaun Watson in Cleveland.

https://brownswire.usatoday.com/202...medium=trueanthem&utm_source=twitter

Both those QB's worth a look. Can't hurt. We may finally get lucky drafting a QB!!!

Who knows? We may not want to extend Watson for a few reasons, so it wouldn't hurt to have a guy on staff who has been in the system several years.

The Browns met with Al Woods DL from Seattle Tuesday. Woods then when and met with the Jets Wednesday. The Jets then signed Quinton Jefferson DL from Seattle today.

That move is expected to clear the way for the Browns to sign Al Woods.

That move would beef up the interior DL. Woods and Tomlinson are hard guys to run on.

It would set up a decent rotation at DL. Woods, Tomlinson Winfrey, Elliott.

Don't forget a healthy Hurst....

The DL room will have some good competition now.

It will help this defense in a very big way.

The DT play last season affected the entire defense in a negative way.

This would change linebacker, safety play, and DE play.

A look at some of the Browns’ top 30 visits by NFL draft prospects
Updated: Apr. 07, 2023, 3:40 p.m.|Published: Apr. 07, 2023, 5:00 a.m.

The top wide receivers in the NFL Draft 2023
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By Mary Kay Cabot, cleveland.com
CLEVELAND, Ohio — The Browns are in the midst of their top 30 visits at team headquarters in Berea, in which 30 non-local draft prospects can interview with club officials and undergo physical exams, but no on-field workouts are permitted.

The Browns are also allowed to bring in local players from Northeast Ohio who don’t count against their 30 visits.

The official visits for NFL teams begins on March 7 and will conclude on April 19.

So far, the Browns have hosted at least 11 prospects, according to various reports. They are Clemson LB Trenton Simpson, Ohio State OT Dawand Jones, Florida DL Gervon Dexter, Bowling Green DL Karl Brooks, Houston WR Tank Dell, Houston QB Clayton Tune, Fresno State QB Jake Haener, Tennessee WR Jalin Hyatt, Penn State C Juice Scruggs, and UCLA QB Dorian Thompson-Robinson.



Here’s a look at five of their top 30 visits, which can be targeted for any of their picks in Rounds 3-7:

1. WR Jaylin Hyatt — Tennessee

Ht: 6-0

Wt: 176

40 time: 4.4

After waiting his turn his first two years, Hyatt started 12 games as a junior in 2022, leading the Vols with 67 catches, ranking fifth in the nation with 1,267 yards, and catching 15 TD passes to tie for second in the FBS.

NFL.com’s Lance Zierlein writes that “Hyatt’s gliding gait disguises explosive acceleration that can lead to easy separation on deep throws. However, he does display inconsistency on contested catches comes. Hyatt is ordinary getting in and out of intermediate breaks and might be best with a limited route tree full of slants, crossers and a series of field-stretching patterns. Hyatt is an instantly credible WR2 with the ability to make a huge impact, but production could be erratic due to the limitations of his game.”

The site cites his “boom or bust potential” and has a second-round grade on him.

33rd Team writes that “Hyatt is a very dynamic and explosive playmaker who can win in so many different ways. He can beat you underneath for five yards, run a curl route for 15 yards, or run by you for 75 yards over the top. He is a natural receiver and plays the position well, he is more than just the best athlete on the field. Hyatt has very good instincts to read his defender, finding success both inside and outside. He is an ideal Z receiver in the NFL who will make an impact quickly on Sundays.”

The site has him ranked 13th on its Big Board and compares him to the Eagles DeVonta Smith, the No. 10 overall pick in 2021.

The Browns have a well-stocked receiver room, but are always looking for more weapons for Deshaun Watson.




2. LB Trenton Simpson — Clemson

Ht: 6-2

Wt: 235

40 time: 4.43

Zierlein writes that Simpson is a “chiseled weakside linebacker with rare speed for the position to run down the action in all directions. Simpson played inside in 2022 but displayed average play recognition and a lack of patience that saw him get caught in traffic near the line. He can play run-and-hit football with his speed when playing outside.

“He needs to cut back the arm tackles and pursue with better angles to the ball. He’s a premium athlete capable of squeezing routes from zone and attacking the pocket as a blitzer. Simpson isn’t quite game-ready yet, but players with his traits and range eventually find the field.”

The site projects him as an eventual average starter.

33rd Team has him ranked 30th on its big board, and compares him to Isaiah Simmons.

“He’s quick to cover when playing zones with more than enough speed to blanket skill players into the flats or up the seam,” 33rd Team writes. “Simpson adds an element as a rusher, showing a knack to get home with his length and use of hands. Overall, Simpson’s a do-it-all linebacker with versatility to wear multiple hats on defense and wreak havoc.”

The Browns have plenty of good linebackers, but most of them are coming off of serious injuries in 2022, including Sione Takitaki (torn ACL), Jacob Phillips (torn pec), Anthony Walker Jr. (torn quad) and Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah (mid-foot sprain).




3. QB Dorian Thompson-Robinson — UCLA

Ht: 6-2

Wt: 203

40 time: 4.56

The Browns have Joshua Dobbs and Kellen Mond backing up Deshaun Watson, but they’re always looking for good, developmental talent at the position.

Pro Football Focus has Thompson-Robinson ranked No. 7 at his position, and 163rd on its big board.

“DTR was as electric and fun to watch as any player in college football,” PFF writes in its draft guide. “He improved each and every year, specifically as a passer, and so did his team’s final record. In 2022, Thompson-Robinson recorded 3,159 passing yards and 27 touchdowns with a 77.4% adjusted completion percentage. And we can’t forget how explosive he is as a runner, gaining 741 yards and 12 touchdowns on the ground.”

PFF also noted that he tied Josh Allen for the fastest throw at the NFL Scouting Combine in the past decade at 62 mph.

Zierlein was less enthusiastic.

“Five-year starter with below-average size, above-average mobility and a recent history of improvement at the position,” he wrote. “Thompson-Robinson played in a favorable scheme for quarterbacks, but he also improved as a field-reader over time. While he can extend plays and create opportunities for himself outside of the pocket, he’s at his best when he’s throwing on time and utilizing possession throws as his base. He has lapses in vision and judgment against zone and when pressured, so he must cut down on ill-advised throws. Thompson-Robinson has the potential to find a home as a QB3 with a QB2 ceiling.”




4. DT Gervon Dexter Sr. — Florida

Ht. 6-6

Wt: 310

40 time: 4.88

The Browns have a lot of bodies in their defensive tackle room, but no clearcut starter opposite Dalvin Tomlinson. Dexter would be more of a developmental players who could try to work his way into the rotation.

Pro Football Focus ranks him as the No. 10 interior defender in his class, but needs to see much more to buy in.

“Dexter’s pure physical ability isn’t too dissimilar to say a Javon Kinlaw who was a top-15 pick in 2020,” PFF wrote. “Not a lot of dudes are that tall, carry weight that easily, and can move that adeptly. It’s a great starting point for a defensive lineman.”

The problem with Dexter, PFF notes, is that his athleticism hasn’t translated to production.

“If someone can tap into those traits, he should thrive in the NFL,” PFF wrote, adding that he “was a complete non-factor on his 2022 tape.”

NFL.com, on the other hand, believes Dexter has what it takes to be an above average backup, but maybe not in a 4-3 defense.

“Dexter is frequently slow off snap, which tends to have a domino effect on both his hands and positioning in a negative way,” Zierlein writers. “His size and traits help him make plays even after being blocked early in the rep, but he’ll need to improve his hand usage as a pro. He’s a limited pass rusher with below average quickness and rush skill but can get there eventually if the play extends. Dexter’s physical profile might be hard for teams to ignore, and he could become a more consistent performer in a 3-4 defense.”

33rd Team also believes Dexter needs some excellent pro coaching.

“Awareness and vision is inconsistent to locate ball carriers, causing late shedding of blockers,” the said wrote. “Dexter can roll for a big man, displaying range to cover ground, but motor holds him back, running hot and cold. Overall, Dexter’s size, length, strength and power are reasons to buy in with high upside for your defense.”




5. WR Tank Dell — Houston

Ht: 5-10

Wt: 165

40 time: 4.49

Small but mighty, Dell is ranked No. 6 in his receiver class by PFF, and No. 44 on its big board.

After transferring to Houston, “he proceeded to lead the team in catches in all three seasons with the Cougars,” PFF writes. “As one of the most productive receivers in the nation, Dell has back-to-back seasons with 1,300-plus yards and recorded 29 touchdown catches over the past two years. His size might scare some teams off, but he was certainly productive enough in college.”

As for his role, “Dell is the receiver teams will be sending in motion at the snap with regularity to make opposing defenses account for his speed and dynamism. Then, teams will want him to get vertical as much as possible.”

Dell is the kind of dynamic receiver who would pair well with Watson. Fast, twitchy, explosive, a nose for the end zone.

“Dell is a short receiver with big-play ability due to elite top-end speed and good quickness,” writes 33rd Team. “He can stretch the field and stress defensive backs. He does a good job of tracking the ball in the air and contorting his body to get in position. He shows good quickness off the line of scrimmage and the ability to stem at the top of his route. Dell also shows a good ability to run-after-the-catch, often turning short passes into big gains.”

But Dell must work on both his strength and hands, having dropped 20 of his 22 drops in his final two seasons.

“Overall, his film shows an explosive home run No. 2 or No. 3 option for a team looking to improve their ability to stretch the field,” 33rd Team wrote. “Due to his lack of size and build, it’s hard to see him ever being a true No. 1 but he’ll produce in the right situation.”





https://www.cleveland.com/browns/20...0-visits-by-college-draft-prospects.html

Sometimes I wonder how many times the in house visits are used as part of the smoke screen process?

I am not saying any of those guys aren't worth a look, just wondering if visits are sometimes used to possibly influence other teams decisions in order for a player we really want to fall to us?

If the Browns draft H. Hooker from Tenn, I think they may finally get lucky, again... after Mayfield, and others, in drafting a @uarterback.

I read this morning that the Browns have met with this guy Ya Ya Diaby a number of times.

https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/arti...e_occasions_per_source/s1_16697_38683040

So, I watched a little tape. Just a highlight tape. Interesting guy with good size and quickness. He shows good effort as well.

According to the article he is drawing a lot of interest.

WE could get lucky drafting a QB but if we did it would only be the 2nd time we ever did in my years being a fan. Bernie was the only QB we have drafted in the last 56 years that was good for us.

And that wasn't even via the real draft. Bernie manipulated the system to find his was to us through the supplemental draft.

You are correct. I remember that. Think about it Jest. We can't draft and develop QB's no matter who our coaches are and we very seldom draft an impact player in the 1st round. It's no wonder we've been the laughingstock of the league for the last 3 decades. No wonder Jimmy Haslam gave the OK to spend 230 million on a QB. That's the only way we may get a good one!!!!!!!!

When seeing that typed and reading it on the screen, that's just a sad thing to read knowing it's true. If only over all this time we had someone with enough talent evaluation skills to draft a good QB. It's not like the Browns haven't had the chances to do it. For some reason I thought people were actually being paid whose job description included that skill set.

It is sad and 100% true. You know what I've told friends of mine over the years? I could have put names of college players on the wall the day of the draft, randomly thrown darts and done a better job of acquiring talent for us then most of our GM's. I really believe that. SAD!!

Gotta be honest, with Winfrey's current Domestic Arrest, we gotta be thinking DT with #74. If Gervon Dexter is there I would sprint to the podium. Watched him play several times last season without really looking at him as a potential draft pick. He is really good against the run. He seems as if he just naturally does it. He engages and sheds with ease to either make the play or be a factor. I will NOT say I know how Florida ran their defense and what their role for him was BUT he was very effective in the 3-4 games I watched. I think he has his best football in front of him especially if Scwartz gets hold of him. At 6'5 310 he can easily carry 10 more lbs of muscle without losing anything. I really think this is a diamond in the rough kind of guy.

Prospect Summary

Gervon Dexter NFL Draft Scouting Report

IDL, Florida Gators

Gervon Dexter Sr. is a third-year sophomore who has been a contributor along the Florida defensive front since his freshman year, proving the ability to make impact plays as a freshman and continuing to do so throughout his college career. Dexter’s 6-foot-6, 300-pound frame combined with his athletic upside gives him a natural physical advantage that helps him dominate offensive linemen when he is put in position to attack upfield and get penetration.

When Dexter can time the snap right, he shows the ability to quickly get upfield and create penetration and disrupt the intended blocking scheme of the play. Dexter also shows the ability to win one-on-one matchups and shed offensive linemen at the line of scrimmage and make the play to tackle the ball carrier. As a pass rusher, Dexter wins using his speed and athleticism. At the snap, Dexter can use speed to attack the edges of offensive linemen and work quick hand maneuvers to defeat them to get to the quarterback. Dexter also shows to have good reactionary athleticism and can retrace and get to the quarterback if he is working up in the pocket. Dexter has good range and closing speed to get to quarterbacks who are making an attempt to escape the pocket, which could be helpful against mobile quarterbacks.

While Dexter’s size, speed, and athleticism allow him to make impact plays, there is an element of consistency that is lacking due to minor technical issues in Dexter’s game that have a large impact on his consistent effectiveness. One of the biggest issues that Dexter needs to work on is how high he plays. At the snap, Dexter raises up and it allows offensive linemen to have a large surface area to get great inside hand leverage on him, making it hard for him to disengage. On plays where Dexter is doubled-teamed, this becomes an issue because he is constantly displaced and unable to maintain the line of scrimmage and affect the play. Another issue that presents itself consistently in Dexter’s play is the lack of a pass-rush plan. When Dexter doesn’t win initially with speed he becomes stagnant at the line of scrimmage and floats around the line of scrimmage instead of working to get QB pressure. In situations where Dexter is double-teamed, he becomes a stagnant rusher, failing to commit to a plan.

Overall, Dexter is a prospect that has physical tools that will instantly give him an opportunity to be a starter in the NFL. The question for Dexter will be whether he will continue to develop his skill set to be an impactful starter in the NFL to match those rare physical traits.

Top Reasons to Buy In:

Great size and length for IDL
Athleticism at the IDL position
Flashes of dominance
Top Reasons For Concern:

Plays high/leverage issues
Inconsistent technique in the run and pass
Motor/effort concerns
Size (NFL Combine):

Height: 6′ 6”

Weight: 310 lbs

Arm Length: 32 1/4”

Hand Size: 9 1/2”

Athletic Testing (NFL Combine):

40-yard Dash: 4.88s

Vertical Jump: 31”

Broad Jump: 9′ 2”

Short-Shuttle: TBD

Three-Cone: 7.50s

Bench Reps: 22 reps

Ideal Role: 4-3 DT 3-Tech

Scheme Fit: Attack-style 4-3 scheme

TDN Consensus Grade: 77.50 /100 (Third-Round Value)

Sanchez Grade: 77.50 /100
Written By: Keith Sanchez


https://thedraftnetwork.com/sr-prospect/gervon-dexter-a05b473e-0d4b-4d7a-a4cb-4d0160c9ef73/

Pretty sure you are seeing it the same way I am seeing this dude. We had him in for a visit which means they are lookin at what we are lookin at. Love the fact he is a recent father and seems to have no baggage or crap attached. Once again, if this cat is available at 74 we should sprint up to the podium. I really like his game, his ability to read plays very quickly is really what stood out. I think Schwartz is drooling over this kid, I really believe he has a Pro Bowl skill set just wasnt asked to be that kinda guy at Florida. Maybe I am wrong but at 54 years old I have seen a crap load of DT's, I think he has special skills. GO BROWNS

I had to look up his weight because he is a think looking 310#. Might be because that #21 is a 400# DT.

The guy i am hoping for is Keeanu Benton the DT from Wisconsin. He was on my short list for the pick at #42 before we traded it so I doubt he will be available at #72 but I have seen some mock drafts that have him falling to the 3rd round, lasting even past #72. I don't see him lasting to us, but if he fell I would traade for him. Gervin wouldn't be a bad consolation prize

Tank Bigsby Rb Auburn, was mocked to the Browns on an NFL network show tonight in a segment on teams without a first round pick.

Now, Tank Bigsby looks like a fine fine player, I like him, I hope they get him, he became one of four players I want the Browns to get,
and
he was mocked to the Browns, by a show.