Get rid of this boob....

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Lauren Brill
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Browns team source tells me Justin Gilbert told coaches he wouldn't go into game today. #browns

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And then there is this too...Wasn't Gaines the guy fighting with Whitner on the sidelines a few games back?...

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Player told me that Charles Gaines left bc he was having a baby but missed flight back this morning. Player felt he quit on them #browns

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What a total pathetic joke.

Here's another for good measure....

Lauren Brill
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Team source tells me Joe Haden lost respect in locker room. #Browns

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Lack of institutional control.

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Wow! Can you blame him? Bowe sits 90% of the year and makes 9 mil. Can you really blame him? He's probably gone anyway. Most of these losers probably knew they were gone anyway.

Yep.....

Lauren Brill
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Browns source tells me players did like coaching staff but that it was a young staff and they had trouble controlling some players

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yea, it really does sound like the players just said "screw all of it"

man...what did we do to deserve such a crap franchise?

To many players are in the game for the money.. not the love for playing

Wasn't Gilbert supposed to have a breakout season?

Justin Gilbert has been a wasted pick since day 1. He has never seemed to have a passion for the game at all.

I have no idea what happened with Gaines. You would think that he would appreciate the way Pettine, in particular, praised him, even when he was injured, and gave him a shot when he came off IR.

Isn't that coaching 101 at this level? You have Alpha-males all over the place with huge egos and large contracts...the ability to control players and get them prepared for each game while putting them in schemes to succeed? My gut thought would be that if you can't control them then you can' t make them better?

Being liked isn't all it's cracked up to be. It can just mean he let guys do what they wanted to do, except someone named Manziel.

Being liked is fine. Being respected is much better.

That locker room sounds like a TV series script.... just drama & dysfunction.

Gaines had a baby. I'm gonna give him a slight pass on not being at the game.

It sounds like the coaches lost control of the players. That is never a good thing and did call for the firings.

OR, did the imminent firings result in the players saying "screw it"?

One James Haslam/Haslem probably shouldn't sleep too well tonight, or in the coming months. His business acumen is showing. Know what it shows? I don't have a clue in hell what I'm doing, but I hope my next decisions are good.

When will he have the balls to say "the Browns are 4 years away from being a contender, and I'm responsible for it. I hope it's just 4 years, as right now, we don't have a gm, and we have no one in mind that will actually come here. We don't have a coach, and right now, no coach in their right mind would come here. So, yes, I, James Haslem, have screwed the pooch here. But please stay with us, as next year we'll be putting new soap in the bathrooms and yet again getting new food outlets in the stadium - although it will only be in the box seats."

I took you off of ignore after seeing some of your recent posts that have been quoted. Please, let's not fight in a petty way. I have no problem w/us disagreeing, but let's please keep it civil.

I agree w/you on what you just said.

Gilber and Haden are not coaching problems. They are player problems. Gaines? I don't know. I think he should have been there, but the birth of a child is huge. I will not judge him just yet.

We need to get rid of guys like Gilber and Haden. They are too selfish. And why wasn't JM at the game? I have defended him, but man.............why was he not at the game supporting his teammates?

It broke. Hope he is done.

Geeez, we coulda dressed Bowe after all. Cut Gilbert or trade him if possible. We seem to have a few that fall into the "Don't Play Like a Brown" category. Some don't come to the game.

One of the first steps in picking players is to find those who want to play, can play, will play, and play. Too much junk here.

I think Haslam admitted as much tonight. It's harder than they imagined. He knows the Browns aren't winning 13 games next year. He does want to see things going right directionally. I think we can both agree that 2015 didn't go right.

I guess we will see how smart he is with this new plan of attack.

He also mentioned pittsburg 3 times and how "they do it right" basically.

pitt has had 3 coaches in the last 47 years? We've had 3 coaches in the last 4 years.

Haslem is nothing but a billionaire wannabe team owner. Daddy started the business, he demanded clean showers and stuff on the shelves. It worked selling diesel fuel - it ain't working running an nfl team.

Ever seen a deer in your headlights? If not, check out haslems press conference. Dude is lost. He and his wife and Sashi are going to hire the coach, and then the 4 of them will hire a gm?

Dude is used to saying something and having it done his way, instantly.

Browns are going nowhere until he realizes his ego is in the way.

Birth of child is more important than a meaningless football game thats better off for the team if you lose.

Boom!!!!

If this is in fact true, isn't it a breach of contract?

Wouldn't go to the game? Huh? This is the big leagues, what kind of weird behavior is that, very odd. Can't tolerate that childish stuff, please cut him soon if he doesn't want to be here or get something for him, I just don't know.

"Cannot refuse to go in game when asked" seems like an odd thing to put in a players contract. It's likely assumed they actually want to play.

Though, Dwayne Bowe may have tricked the Front Office in that regard as well.

To be fair, Gilbert probably thought it was against the rules for him to be active.

Feared an Illegal Procedure penalty.

1. who is Lauren Brill?

2. I was wow, I didn't know that and was believable until the Haden remark came? I don't get that one. He had injuries all year and diagnosed with 2 concussions within 3 weeks.

I don't get it?

Gilbert thought it was Pettine refusing to pay him. Gilbert should be fined for a games pay check. I wouldn't release him. I would bury him on our roster till his 2nd contract comes up and he can get League Minimum when he leaves. If it becomes cut your nose to spite your face cause we need the roster spot then work a trade for him if it before the deadline and lastly just cut him.

Gaines Last game playing for nothing...wish he got the coaches ok but we were down to nothing left in CBs so that wasn't happening. I'd give him a 2nd chance if he isn't a cancer. Sure wish we could find out what that argument was about?

jmho

Said the same thing at first, but she's the WEWS sports reporter.

Toni Grossi said on espn radio that the report was false.

Gilbert himself said it was insane. Said he was on special teams why would he not play defense?

Gilbert is still about as worthless as a cow pissing on a flat rock. The fact that most of us had no issues believing the content and nature of the report of him being a bum is a good sign of how people view that wasted top pick.

https://twitter.com/MaryKayCabot/status/684054095792095232

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Gilbert not playing is a good thing, he is doing the team a favor

Is this real life?

That makes sense, and makes me feel a little better anyway. I really wish this guy would commit himself to being great, and work every single day at learning everything he can about being an NFL CB. He obviously worked out hard in the off-season, as he was absolutely sculpted ..... but the mental and preparation sides are vital in the NFL. I hope that he finally gets that.

I despise Gilber, but it disgusts me that reporters are being allowed to fabricate stories.

One of the nicer parts of the 'no twitter policy' was at least trying to offer more than just conjecture into the discussion. I know the genie can't really be put back in the bottle, but I do know that everything on twitter has to be taken with a few grains of salt

He didn't play as much and didn't have a good year at all.

Refs really enforced the no holding rule this year but in previously years (and IMHO) Haden did it often and usually got away with it... It was one of the reasons he did his job well, he held. This year? He didn't do so well...I think that might be one of the reasons why.

I agree completely, and it is why we held onto as long as we did.

Can this thread be locked or deleted, since it has been proved false?

Or is could just be changed from:

Just Gilbert Refused To Go In Game

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Just Gilbert Didn't Refuse To Go Into Game

No better or worse than when asked if he thinks he'll play this year "we'll see" was his exact reply. False report or not, this kid is still a loser.

Those are direct quotes from Gilbert.

They've been doing that for years Vers. What's sad is when people repeat them to the point that others believe them.

Say something enough times and it becomes the accepted truth.

I am awesome.
I am awesome.
I am awesome.
I am awesome.
I am awesome.
I am awesome.
I am awesome.



Ok, has it become the accepted truth yet, or must I continue?

Probably - I don't think it's kicked in yet, arch...

Oh, ok.

I am awesome.
I am awesome.
I am awesome.

More?

You are awesome.

I think you should make this a poll.

Hey, it seems this whole "say if often enough and people will believe it" thing is working!

I like you and all. I think you are a nice guy even though we haven't met.

But awesome? That may be a bit of a stretch. lol

I heArd on ESPN that Archbolddawg was awesome

Now I'm feelin' it, arch...

i would try that but everyone already knows i am....... don't want anymore stalkers telling me how awesome i am{{{SIGH}}}

Maybe if you get a saucy tart like Lauren Brill to repeat it I'll buy in.

Go back and re-read my posts. I'm tired of typing it.

Read it enough and you'll be a believer.

I am awesome.

Focus on that.

What's her number?

I am awesome. Believe it. After all, you ARE reading it on the internet. I can't help that the main stream media is ignoring it. Do some research.

Google "arch is awesome" and you'll find the links that prove it.

Or, just read this:

I am awesome.

Word is, I read it in a Roger Brown article...

Just got an alert on my phone. Arch is awesome.

Sorry arch, there's just not enough internet to make that work for you.

this might be the best thing to come out of the gameday vs. Pittsburgh, lol!

The team sucks, but at least the comedy is good

j/c:

Not surprised at all! Once again, posters derail a thread with their agenda and who is 'awesome'. Way to stick to the topic and ruin it for the rest of us who actually want to talk about an irrelevant player in the offseason. I'm so sick of the hypocrisy!

Guys, I'm almost done with team, this board, and all you posters.

Seriously this time. I mean it. For real. Honestly. I'm not joking.

Feelin' it now, Arch!

It is Believeland, after all. Life transforming it is.

Self-made. Man!

See?

People are falling in line.

Told ya!

archbolddog is so awesome I started a fan club for him. Anybody who wants to join just send your $50.00 to GMdawg at www.dawgtalkers.net along with a postage paid envelope, you will receive a autographed 8x10 showing him in all of his awesomeness, plus a membership card.

Please assure us that he will be fully clothed...

I'm so awesome that even I am sending a check.

I am going to use them as Christmas cards next year

My wife taped it to the bedroom ceiling!

You've got a lucky wife.

Hey.... don't get too full of yourself, Dawg.

It's only an 8X10.



Ask jfan about that full-sized Fathead of Clemmy behind his cello in their rumpus room....

This has to be the best Justin Gilbert thread ever.

I wore out the skin on my index finger while scrolling back to find the last Gilbert reference...

There goes your ability to painlessly clean out your nose.

Why discuss Gilbert when we can discuss awesome?

As awesome as a peanut butter and shrimp sandwich?

Is that to say a peanut butter sandwich made specifically for our receivers?

You're a sick man, I almost puked reading that.

So .... you don't think that's awesome?

Hater!

Nope Billy enjoys them also.

Quit being such a homer

Sitting down my peanut butter and shrimp breakfast sandwich.

NOPE

Is he still with us?