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Posted By: clwb419 2017 Draft Predictions (not mock drafts) - 04/24/17 11:46 PM
The draft is always unpredictable, and this year will likely be no different. I was wondering what ya'll thought would be some of things you think will happen this Thu-Sun (I'm not asking for mocks)?

My thoughts:
a) If Jamal Adams doesn't go 1-4, the Browns trade #12, #52 and later round pick(s) to Tennessee for #5. Tenn is looking to pick up a second rounder, and at least 1 of the top 3 WRs will be available at #12, maybe OJ Howard too.
b) For some reason I think Nathan Peterman will be the QB we end up with.
c) Despite being a mediocre QB class, I think we'll see 6 QBs taken in the first 50 picks
d) Off field stuff won't make a dramatic impact to the draft spots of guys like Foster, Cook, Mixon, and Peppers - they'll all go mid-first to early second.
e) Biggest surprise picks in the first round: Houston picking Davis Webb, Oakland picking Jarrad Davis
- Myles Garrett goes #1
- Mitchell Trubisky goes before pick #8
- Deshone Kizer goes higher than anticipated (top 25)
- Deshaun Watson goes higher than anticipated (top 15)
- Joe Mixon will be a 1st round pick
- Dalvin Cook will be a top 15 pick
- #12 will be the most controversial and discussed pick on this board
- We do not select a QB until the 4th round, if at all.

The real draft for the Bears and Bucs will mostly fall in accordance with my mock selections...lol
no trades and no QBs go in the top 10

Browns go Garrett and corey davis with their first 2 picks.

Jonathon allen falls out of the top 10.

12 defensive backs go in the top 40
My biggest prediction is that we'll all breathe a sigh of relief once the draft - and the endless speculation - is over.
We could do a number of different things with 12, but we will take Garrett 1st overall, the 49ers or Jets will take Trubisky.
-I see Trubisky at 12 and Webb at 52. I think Hue liked Webb at the Senior Bowl and if Trubisky is gone, someone will be an option at 33 or 52.

-I think Friday morning we will be drooling over the possibilities at 33 and it will just be too tempting to not choose someone that was first round talent.

- I could see a move back into the first round if we get antsy, but I would rather wait the night out and see if we could trade out of 33 if there is more than one option.

- by my score card I think there are 50 solid picks available before the talent, so we should have 4 players to talk about. Rounds 2 and 3 have my interest, perhaps more than the first.

- I think the first 2 or 3 picks will be defensive. I see a safety at 33.
A week from now it will be over. Being in no position to influence anything, I don't care much until it gets here.
Posted By: mgh888 Re: 2017 Draft Predictions (not mock drafts) - 04/25/17 03:18 AM
- no QB taken in first 11 picks.

- Brown's involved in at least one trade.

- Brown's select 3 defensive players taken in the first 4 picks.

- Unlikely, but something is nudging me in th direction of believing a Jimmy Garopollo trade just might be coming.
Originally Posted By: mgh888


- Unlikely, but something is nudging me in th direction of believing a Jimmy Garopollo trade just might be coming.



I hope so, but I am not expecting that to happen anymore. My worry is we do something silly and overreach for a QB. But, whoever we take I will hope he is successful and proves my worries to be unfounded.
Didn't realize the " Pats " don't have a pick until the third round # 75 , Bill just might Get antsy .. Also heard last night that they just might have to pay JG. more than Brady just with a Franchise tag !!! Could get real sticky for the Pats ..
Originally Posted By: waterdawg
Didn't realize the " Pats " don't have a pick until the third round # 75 , Bill just might Get antsy .. Also heard last night that they just might have to pay JG. more than Brady just with a Franchise tag !!! Could get real sticky for the Pats ..
I still believe if a team offers enough on Thursday night, Bill would deal JG. Waiting until round 3 is tough, especially in a talented draft.

Let's say we offer 12 plus something else ... he might bite
Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
Originally Posted By: waterdawg
Didn't realize the " Pats " don't have a pick until the third round # 75 , Bill just might Get antsy .. Also heard last night that they just might have to pay JG. more than Brady just with a Franchise tag !!! Could get real sticky for the Pats ..
I still believe if a team offers enough on Thursday night, Bill would deal JG. Waiting until round 3 is tough, especially in a talented draft.

Let's say we offer 12 plus something else ... he might bite


I am so much more comfortable offering #12 and a 2nd next year for JG than offering #12, #33, two seconds next year and whatever else I have seen projected to move up for Trubisky.
Well Cap , I like Trubisky but Drafting a kid with only 13 starts in COLLEGE in the first is not very smart . I believe History will prove that out ( do not need to be an Ivy League Grad to figure that out ).
Originally Posted By: CapCity Dawg
Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
Originally Posted By: waterdawg
Didn't realize the " Pats " don't have a pick until the third round # 75 , Bill just might Get antsy .. Also heard last night that they just might have to pay JG. more than Brady just with a Franchise tag !!! Could get real sticky for the Pats ..
I still believe if a team offers enough on Thursday night, Bill would deal JG. Waiting until round 3 is tough, especially in a talented draft.

Let's say we offer 12 plus something else ... he might bite


I am so much more comfortable offering #12 and a 2nd next year for JG than offering #12, #33, two seconds next year and whatever else I have seen projected to move up for Trubisky.
Agreed. All things being equal, I'd want JG more than MT
Prediction: Steve Smith Sr. won't pull any punches during his portion of the Draft's coverage.

He was on Good Morning Football this morning along with Deshaun Watson and he was less than complimentary of the Browns. I couldn't get that mad, though, we do seem to chew up QBs.
Posted By: eotab Re: 2017 Draft Predictions (not mock drafts) - 04/25/17 01:30 PM
Myles Garret is our guy at #1.

Somebody really good drops to us at #12 (my odds on favorite would be Malik Hooker)

Dobbs will be a QB that we take (I'm thinking at #65)

We will get 2 CBs at 33 and 52.

jmho
My Prediction: We will draft Trubisky #1 and trade #12 (1200) #52 (380) and #175 (21) (Total: 1601) to the Jets for #6 (1600) and pick the best defensive player on the board between Solomon Thomas, Malik Hooker and Jamal Adams ... JMHO
Browns shock us all and methodically stick to their board
drafting a very strong class.
ESPN drops dead and hell freezes over...
I would say that is just about right ! !
Originally Posted By: 1oldMutt
Browns shock us all and methodically stick to their board
drafting a very strong class.
ESPN drops dead and hell freezes over...
This is my hope, not sure I would predict it though.
I also predict: picks are leaked/hinted at before they occur on tv ... one of my pet peeves
Posted By: ThatGuy Re: 2017 Draft Predictions (not mock drafts) - 04/25/17 04:49 PM
Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
I also predict: picks are leaked/hinted at before they occur on tv ... one of my pet peeves


Networks have said they won't.

The NFL totally didn't tell them not to...
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: 2017 Draft Predictions (not mock drafts) - 04/25/17 04:52 PM
Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
I also predict: picks are leaked/hinted at before they occur on tv ... one of my pet peeves


I want to know as soon as possible.
Originally Posted By: ThatGuy
Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
I also predict: picks are leaked/hinted at before they occur on tv ... one of my pet peeves


Networks have said they won't.

The NFL totally didn't tell them not to...
but if you have twitter, they leak them early. I stay off the internet for the night(s)
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
I also predict: picks are leaked/hinted at before they occur on tv ... one of my pet peeves


I want to know as soon as possible.
Lol I'm the opposite. To each their own.
Posted By: ThatGuy Re: 2017 Draft Predictions (not mock drafts) - 04/25/17 05:22 PM
Imo the Draft is a TV show.

It's drama.

I want to know who's getting picked when Goodell says it (after the boos have died down)
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: 2017 Draft Predictions (not mock drafts) - 04/25/17 05:26 PM
I don't care about the TV show. I want to know who my team picks as soon as possible.
Many times in the past they've talked right through the Browns pick. Usually about an insignificant guy three picks earlier. I rarely watch past the second round...
Posted By: CHSDawg Re: 2017 Draft Predictions (not mock drafts) - 04/25/17 05:56 PM
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
I don't care about the TV show. I want to know who my team picks as soon as possible.


For the official draft thread, will we be allowing twitter spoils? I know in years past, they're usually announced a few minutes earlier on twitter.
I will be working and wont know till I get home and watch on the DVR. Avoid all social media till morning lmao.
Posted By: eotab Re: 2017 Draft Predictions (not mock drafts) - 04/25/17 09:02 PM
What's Twitter? naughtydevil
Posted By: drobs Re: 2017 Draft Predictions (not mock drafts) - 04/26/17 11:28 AM
I think we draft Garrett at 1 (duh).

I think we draft one of CB Kevin King, Sidney Jones.

I think we draft a safety - so 3 of 4 first picks being DE, CB and S. My money is on Melifonwu.

We also draft at receiver.
Posted By: FL_Dawg Re: 2017 Draft Predictions (not mock drafts) - 04/26/17 07:09 PM
Myles Garrett will be the #1 selection.

Pick #12 will be one of;
Hooker, Adams, O.J Howard, Trubisky or Mahomes.

Pick #33 will be a DB.
Obi Melifonwu, Marcus Sanders-Williams, Kevin King, Fabian Moreau or Chidobe Awuzie.
Posted By: ThatGuy Re: 2017 Draft Predictions (not mock drafts) - 04/26/17 07:17 PM
I predict (hope) for that moment..

That moment after pick #11 has been announced.

That moment that Cleveland is on the clock at #12.

That moment, as time passes, minutes seem like hours.

That moment that the crowd starts to buzz..

I hope for that moment, that the Browns logo flashes on the ticker..

I hope for that moment that it is replaced by New Englands.

I want that moment.
Originally Posted By: FL_Dawg
Myles Garrett will be the #1 selection.

Pick #12 will be one of;
Hooker, Adams, O.J Howard, Trubisky or Mahomes.

Pick #33 will be a DB.
Obi Melifonwu, Marcus Sanders-Williams, Kevin King, Fabian Moreau or Chidobe Awuzie.



There is a Marcus Williams and a Marcus Sanders-Williams from Utah. Pretty sure you mean the one without the Sanders.

Just Williams is the 6'1", ~200 lb. Ball hawking safety.

Sanders-Williams is a 5'11", 235 lb. linebacker that I didn't know existed.

I was confused there for a bit and was trying to figure out why/if there'd been a name change.

Definitely not a mistake I'd want to see made on a Draft card. (Unless it was the Steelers)
Originally Posted By: ThatGuy
I predict (hope) for that moment..

That moment after pick #11 has been announced.

That moment that Cleveland is on the clock at #12.

That moment, as time passes, minutes seem like hours.

That moment that the crowd starts to buzz..

I hope for that moment, that the Browns logo flashes on the ticker..

I hope for that moment that it is replaced by New Englands.

I want that moment.


This is pure poetry. I almost wept.
Posted By: clwb419 Re: 2017 Draft Predictions (not mock drafts) - 04/26/17 07:56 PM
Originally Posted By: GrimmBrown
Originally Posted By: FL_Dawg
Myles Garrett will be the #1 selection.

Pick #12 will be one of;
Hooker, Adams, O.J Howard, Trubisky or Mahomes.

Pick #33 will be a DB.
Obi Melifonwu, Marcus Sanders-Williams, Kevin King, Fabian Moreau or Chidobe Awuzie.



There is a Marcus Williams and a Marcus Sanders-Williams from Utah. Pretty sure you mean the one without the Sanders.

Just Williams is the 6'1", ~200 lb. Ball hawking safety.

Sanders-Williams is a 5'11", 235 lb. linebacker that I didn't know existed.

I was confused there for a bit and was trying to figure out why/if there'd been a name change.

Definitely not a mistake I'd want to see made on a Draft card. (Unless it was the Steelers)


odd...

CBS has Marcus Sanders-Williams, FS, Utah, Jr, 6-1, 202
NFL.com and Drafttek only have a Marcus Williams, FS, Utah, 6-1, 202
PFF only has a Marcus Williams, FS

Utah's website shows a Marcus Sanders-Williams without any stats past 2015.
Posted By: CHSDawg Re: 2017 Draft Predictions (not mock drafts) - 04/26/17 08:03 PM
Julie'n Davenport is also reported on pretty much every major site. However JuliƩn Davenport is his real name.

Interns are super lazy these days.
-Browns take Garrett
-Browns either stay at 12 or trade up and do NOT take QB
-3-4 DBs chosen by Browns
-McCaffrey does NOT go top 10
-Corey Davis first receiver off board
-Peppers not in first round
-Mixon to Carolina
-Kizer lasts into 50s
Posted By: FL_Dawg Re: 2017 Draft Predictions (not mock drafts) - 04/26/17 08:38 PM
Originally Posted By: GrimmBrown
Originally Posted By: FL_Dawg
Myles Garrett will be the #1 selection.

Pick #12 will be one of;
Hooker, Adams, O.J Howard, Trubisky or Mahomes.

Pick #33 will be a DB.
Obi Melifonwu, Marcus Sanders-Williams, Kevin King, Fabian Moreau or Chidobe Awuzie.



There is a Marcus Williams and a Marcus Sanders-Williams from Utah. Pretty sure you mean the one without the Sanders.

Just Williams is the 6'1", ~200 lb. Ball hawking safety.

Sanders-Williams is a 5'11", 235 lb. linebacker that I didn't know existed.

I was confused there for a bit and was trying to figure out why/if there'd been a name change.

Definitely not a mistake I'd want to see made on a Draft card. (Unless it was the Steelers)


That is how CBS and first pick have the FS listed, but I did denote "DB". I thought he had just added that recently, like many prospects seem to do today.
If we stay put, I think we go Garrett at 1, and Howard at 12.

That gives us someone to put pressure on both of the other team's offense and defense.

I don't get the infatuation some people seem to have with adding a SS. This team already has 2 guys who should fit the SS role in William's defense very well.
Posted By: FL_Dawg Re: 2017 Draft Predictions (not mock drafts) - 04/26/17 09:00 PM
Ytown, neither of the two SS showed any signs of potential IMO and I had high hopes too. Both where lost in coverage and both take bad angles to the ball carrier and both wiff on too many tackles, that any SS in the league need to make consistently.
I predict that every selection the Browns make will be followed by many on this board complaining and saying they will never root for the Browns again.

Myles Garrett will be selected #1.

Deshaun Watson will be selected at #12. There is just too much Trubisky talk for a team wanted him to fall to #12.
Originally Posted By: CapCity Dawg
Originally Posted By: ThatGuy
I predict (hope) for that moment..

That moment after pick #11 has been announced.

That moment that Cleveland is on the clock at #12.

That moment, as time passes, minutes seem like hours.

That moment that the crowd starts to buzz..

I hope for that moment, that the Browns logo flashes on the ticker..

I hope for that moment that it is replaced by New Englands.

I want that moment.


This is pure poetry. I almost wept.
brownie
Posted By: Jester Re: 2017 Draft Predictions (not mock drafts) - 04/27/17 11:09 AM
Here is my Browns prediction:

1st, we take Garrett at #1 overall

2nd, we trade #12, #52 and Tenn's 2018 2nd rounder to Tenn for the #5 pick
Then shock the world by taking Malik Hooker instead of Trubisky as they all expect.

3rd, we trade #33, Houston's 2018 2nd rounder, Brock Osweiler with us picking up all of his salary and we flip-flop 5th round pick (our highest) with NE for Jimmy Garopollo. Sources tell me (Sources being my Magic 8 Ball), that this trade is already in place. We are just waiting to announce it until after we trade up because we want teams thinking that we are trading up for a Qb because a lot of teams in that range want Hooker.

4th, we trade pick #65 to drop down and acquire another 2018 2nd round pick
Posted By: drobs Re: 2017 Draft Predictions (not mock drafts) - 04/27/17 12:42 PM
I just don't see us trading to pick up a safety when the draft is deep with talent at that position. I hope we don't move from #12 - if we do, it's down a few slots and pick up future collateral.

Williams, Baker, Melifonwu, King - at least one is likely to be available at the top of round 2. In fact,I think King may slide to 52 but he's a great football player.

Garrett at 1.
BPA at 12 - I hope somehow Allen falls. He then makes the DL complete as the 3T.
Best DB at 33.
Mitchell Trubisky at 1
Marlon Humphrey at 12

I might throw up.
Originally Posted By: Punchsmack
Mitchell Trubisky at 1
Marlon Humphrey at 12

I might throw up.
I might do more than that
Originally Posted By: Punchsmack
Mitchell Trubisky at 1
Marlon Humphrey at 12

I might throw up.


Yep!
Adams LSU at #1

Humphrey CB Alabama or possibly Watson QB Clemson only if Humphrey is gone at #12

Zay Jones WR E. Carolina or Joe Mixon RB Oklahoma (Crow's holdout will make this likely) at #33

Davis Webb QB Cal or Joshua Dobbs QB Ten at #52 or Wormley DE Michigan if Watson drafted at #12
I see there as a few "safe" picks: Adams, Garrett, Howard. I want two of those 3
...I predict that Warren Sapp's Draft Day-style "no matter what" Post It has Hooker written on it.
1. Myles Garrett will have 10 sacks his rookie season
2. Christian McCaffrey has 1,800 all-purpose yards his rookie season
3. Marcus Williams makes all-rookie team
4. No QB in this draft starts more than 32 games in their career
5. The Browns will take a DE and a DB in the first round
Three RBs will go in the top 15.

Four QBs will go in round 1

The Browns will not trade up at 12.
Posted By: kwhip Re: 2017 Draft Predictions (not mock drafts) - 04/27/17 09:50 PM
Originally Posted By: Jester
Here is my Browns prediction:

1st, we take Garrett at #1 overall

2nd, we trade #12, #52 and Tenn's 2018 2nd rounder to Tenn for the #5 pick
Then shock the world by taking Malik Hooker instead of Trubisky as they all expect.

3rd, we trade #33, Houston's 2018 2nd rounder, Brock Osweiler with us picking up all of his salary and we flip-flop 5th round pick (our highest) with NE for Jimmy Garopollo. Sources tell me (Sources being my Magic 8 Ball), that this trade is already in place. We are just waiting to announce it until after we trade up because we want teams thinking that we are trading up for a Qb because a lot of teams in that range want Hooker.

4th, we trade pick #65 to drop down and acquire another 2018 2nd round pick


Obvious with Garrett at 1.

It won't be Trubisky.

The move from 12 may very well be for a Safety and not Trubisky. I'd watch this one heavily. If that helmet on the clock changes to an orange helmet, I'd BET it's for Hooker or Adams.

Agreed.
Posted By: ddubia Re: 2017 Draft Predictions (not mock drafts) - 04/27/17 11:15 PM
Garrett at #1. Then trade up from #12 with Tenn for #5 and pick Hooker or Adams. That's as far as I'll predict.
Originally Posted By: ddubia
Garrett at #1. Then trade up from #12 with Tenn for #5 and pick Hooker or Adams. That's as far as I'll predict.


Ah man, I would sooo like that.
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: 2017 Draft Predictions (not mock drafts) - 04/27/17 11:22 PM
Originally Posted By: ThatGuy
I predict (hope) for that moment..

That moment after pick #11 has been announced.

That moment that Cleveland is on the clock at #12.

That moment, as time passes, minutes seem like hours.

That moment that the crowd starts to buzz..

I hope for that moment, that the Browns logo flashes on the ticker..

I hope for that moment that it is replaced by New Englands.

I want that moment.


I believe the above scenario is basically impossible. If we traded for Garoppolo we would want to bring him in for a physical (because of his injury in 2016). We can't do that during the draft (obviously). The Garoppolo ship has sailed (if it ever existed in the first place).
YEEESSSSSSSSS!!!!! GARRETT!
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