http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/...od-culture.html

Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas said in a rare public appearance Thursday he’s exhausted with how everyone seems to consider themselves a victim these days.


“At some point, we’re going to be fatigued with everybody being the victim,” Thomas, the second African American to serve on the Supreme Court, said during an on-stage interview at the Library of Congress in Washington.

Thomas, a conservative appointed to the bench in 1990 by President George H.W. Bush, recalled recently being with a young black woman in Kansas who told him, “I’m really tired of having to play the role of being black. I just want to go to school.”


“I just get worn down,” Thomas said.

The justice said his grandfather had a tough life but never considered himself a victim.

“When I was a kid, there were tons of people who were in really bad circumstances,” Thomas said. “My grandfather would not let us wallow in that.”

Thomas added: “He’s my hero. He’s the single greatest human being I’ve ever met. With nine months of education. But he never saw himself as a victim.”

The Daily Caller first drew attention to Thomas’ remarks on victimhood.

During his remarks, Thomas – who faced a bruising confirmation battle when appointed to the high court – lamented the confirmation process for judges, saying it may cause good people to forgo serving. Thomas’s nomination was nearly derailed after facing accusations from a former assistant, Anita Hill, that he sexually harassed her. Thomas denied the allegations.

“I don’t think the process is what it ought to be,” Thomas said. “I think that these are serious jobs, and they should be serious. I don’t think they should become spectacles.”

Thomas said he was confirmed five times in ten years for judicial roles and “it got increasingly worse.”

“This is not the Roman Colosseum,” he said. “We’re not gladiators. And I think we’re going to lose some of our best people who choose not to go through the ordeal. They don’t want to have to fight the lion in order to be a judge or to be in government. And I think it’s our own fault for allowing this to happen.”

What a precious little 'broflake' you are, Clarice.
If The Grind is too much for you....

Get [TF] out.

I happen to agree with Thomas. Everybody is a victim. Hell, some people wait 30 yrs then cry victim.

Another thing we've created in this country, passing blame. Who's responsible for the crime? Not the person who committed it.

right. out here sounding like a victim while complaining about the victimhood mentality.

indeed...

Rather disappointing commentary Clem

I was pleasantly surprised and rather amused. Thanks Clem!

You support a man who spends every day crying that people are mean and unfair to him.

I hope people are more gracious when you hit that age.

What graciousness does a disgusting human being like a Thomas merit?

Justice Thomas has a good point. As a society, we've gone too far in the 'everybody is a victim' direction and gotten away from personal responsibility. You are responsible for your own happiness and situation in life. Nobody else is going to do it for you.

WTF

What has Thomas done to be called a disgusting human being?

Much energy has been spent in recent weeks arguing that Americans, particularly those on the left, need to re-examine how the public responded to the sexual harassment and assault allegations against former president Bill Clinton.

In a piece challenging liberals to reconsider their response to Clinton’s allegations, the Atlantic’s Caitlin Flanagan said:

It was a pattern of behavior; it included an alleged violent assault; the women involved had far more credible evidence than many of the most notorious accusations that have come to light in the past five weeks. But Clinton was not left to the swift and pitiless justice that today’s accused men have experienced. Rather, he was rescued by a surprising force: machine feminism. The movement had by then ossified into a partisan operation, and it was willing — eager — to let this friend of the sisterhood enjoy a little droit de seigneur.

But the allegations against Clinton are not the only claims in the 1990s that some say were handled poorly — and some argue that they are not the most relevant right now either, considering he no longer holds a public office.

There were also sexual harassment allegations in 1991 that involve a man who remains in one of the highest positions of power in the United States: Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas.

Anita Hill alleged that Thomas had sexually harassed her when she was in her mid-20s and worked for him at the Department of Education and the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. Thomas denied the allegations and called the proceedings “a high-tech lynching for uppity blacks.” He was confirmed by the Senate, 52 to 48.


The Daily Beast’s Joy Ann Reid wrote:

Most Americans chose not to believe Hill, who was castigated as a liar, a temptress, and a race-traitor trying to keep a black man off the Supreme Court. Never mind that the American Bar Association had delivered a mixed verdict on whether he was even qualified for a lifetime appointment of such grandeur. I can personally recall knockdown, drag out arguments with black colleagues and relatives who were defending Thomas, and demanding a West Indian gypsy cab driver in the Bronx pull over and let me out of his car after he called Hill a whore.

While some political leaders like former vice president Joe Biden, who chaired the Senate Judiciary Committee at the time of Thomas’s confirmation, have shifted to focusing on believing women in 2017, Hill told The Washington Post that she feels efforts to right past wrongs by Biden have fallen short:

I still don’t think it takes ownership of his role in what happened. And he also doesn’t understand that it wasn’t just that I felt it was not fair. It was that women were looking to the Senate Judiciary Committee and his leadership to really open the way to have these kinds of hearings. They should have been using best practices to show leadership on this issue on behalf of women’s equality. And they did just the opposite.

The image of Hill testifying reminds us of so many of the power imbalances that still exist in our society.

Hill was a 35-year-old black woman from rural Oklahoma.

The committee consisted solely of white men in a higher position of power, many of them significantly older than Hill.

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Race and age are often missing from the current conversation about sexual harassment and assault, despite black women speaking out about sexual predators for years, said Tarana Burke, the creator of the #MeToo movement.

What history has shown us time and again is that if marginalized voices — those of people of color, queer people, disabled people, poor people — aren’t centered in our movements then they tend to become no more than a footnote. I often say that sexual violence knows no race, class or gender, but the response to it does. . . . We can’t afford a racialized, gendered or classist response.

More than a quarter of a century later, the allegations against Thomas are a reminder that despite how much we like to believe society has changed, much has remained the same. But if the country wants to move forward, for some that will require revisiting how Biden, a potential 2020 presidential candidate, and his peers handled a woman’s allegations against a man who sits on our most powerful court.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-...m=.a3a3a3d4b2bf

My mom told me about this guy when I was a teen, and how we have a sexual deviant sitting in the highest court of all the land.

That, on top of the bar association not even sure if the guy was qualified to be on the bench.

Basically, he was a typical trump appointee before people like you decided to actually elect trump.

Recently? I don't know, but I do remember a long time ago they had these posters plastered all over Sunset Boulevard for something he supposedly said to a woman that I think (?) he worked with:

The man was ONCE ACCUSED by Hill that he subjected her to comments of a sexual nature, which she felt constituted sexual harassment or at least "behavior that is unbefitting an individual who will be a member of the Court." He was never charged with any wrongdoing. She never pressed charges, and he was never proved to have done anything wrong YET PDF thinks that means he is a disgusting human being???

I have to disagree.

just because someone didn't get charged doesn't mean they should be getting appointed positions, because what he did is still unethical 100%.

again, the bar association didn't even think the dude was qualified to begin with. THEN you add what he did to Hill and its clear that they could've found another judge to put on the bench.

About as much graciousness as you Mr. I’ve done things I’m not proud of. Might wanna stable that damn high horse of yours.

Did he do anything more than make a crack about a pubic hair on a Coke can? That's about all I remember the stink being about.

I find it disturbing that I seem to be the only white guy who gets what Clem is saying.

I'm curious what exactly IS he saying .......please explain

Just WHAT did he do that was unethical? and why would PDF call him a disgusting human being?

Ever read your posts?

Hes saying that the struggle for equality has been long and hard for black Americans. If it's too much for Clarence to handle, then he can give up whenever he wants.

exactly my point.

Does he expect us to hear his whine over the millions he's whining about?

"People acting as though they're a victim has made me a victim." Clarence Thomas.

Some of you need to take the Clarence Thomas quiz...

I am a loser because of ____________.

Mr. Thomas must have turned down his diner invite ... ....

While what you post is true, and might be what he meant, the 'what a precious little broflake you are, and the 'clarice' part sent a definite bad vibe. JMO.

Here's a suggestion: Hold your breath until my invitation arrives.
Enlist someone armed with a plastic bag to help you accomplish this.

By the way:

"n"

I think this belongs to you. You must have dropped it before you hit the 'submit' button.

Were you having diner at the all night dinner?

You're welcome. And thanks back to you.

I wondered if anyone else would get the irony of it all.

What u tryn 2 say?
(Oh, I forgot to add these: ...)




He obviously missed My Pops' advice from my teen years:

"If you want to be a successful smartazz, check to make sure you're smart first."

Not really surprising he is complaining about this. He's a judge. His whole entire career is predicated on people who want to convince him they are victims.

hey hey now, I use those "..." a lot on here. I use those to slow down my typing so the slow readers don't get lost.

My dad used to finish it with what you are if you're not smart.

If you're not, you're just an ass, if you're really not, you're a dumbass.

You get good advice like that when you aren't raised by a family of Silverbacks...

I must say I am surprised and disappointed by that comment.

I'm sorry you feel that way.
I stand by my statement, however.
Here's why:







With quotes like these, it's difficult to hear anything but whining in his tone.

After 30 years of playing the role of "Silent Clarence," this is what he chooses to say when a mic is shoved in his face?

People in his position are role models, whether they like it or not. Heck, even schlubbs like me are in role model positions. If a mic is shoved in my face (and it's happened, more than a few times), I'm saying something uplifting and positive. I'm certainly NOT going to whine, complain, and play b#ch with my one opportunity.

He deserves all the ridicule I can heap upon him. I think his Grandfather would be ashamed. He's certainly twice the man his grandson appears to be.
No apologies at this address.
Your mileage may vary.

#missedopportunity

See, I took this statement differently than you?

Were you seeing race in that? Were you seeing 'r vs. d' in that?

I can see, and do see, that statement being true for people of every color, every political persuasion/party.

Fill me in. What am I missing?

I wasn't looking for a apology, nor do I think less of you.

I stand by my statement.

Yes, you did.

I wasn't seeing race or political party. I was seeing someone contradict himself with his own statement(s).

In one breath, he claims to be tired of the 'victim' culture.

In the next breath, he cries about how hard life has been for him, then blames the crucible of public attention on peoples' unwillingness to participate. He's the perfect example of what wears him out.
Pffft.

The entire article just irritated me.
Dude's almost never heard from, and this is what he chooses to say when he gets an "open mic moment?"

Makes me wish he'd kept his mouth shut.
I had more respect for him when he was mute.

Ok

I don't seem him being all that contradictory.

The premise of the victim culture that runs amok is that the person's lack of success in life, however defined, is a direct result of someone else's actions, some system of oppression, their skin color, what is or isn't between their legs, etc. Someone or something has created a barrier between them and success and it's not their fault (and to a greater extent not their responsibility to solve).

In his lamenting about the conduct of the nomination processes, he isn't blaming them for a lack of his success in life at all.

In fact, upon re-reading the original post, he's talking about 2 different subjects entirely.

If farting, burping, or saying "Here hold my beer" is uplifting and positive" Then so am I

Well, I guess we know what side he's likely to come down on if he hears any of these cases... He's already made it clear.

Guess impartiality is out the window even in the supreme court. What a shame

Why do you think they blocked Obama's nominee to push their own?

By that standard, how does one complain about ANYTHING without being labeled a whiner?

What is the difference Clem? You are a smart dude... What is the difference between making a critical observation and whining?

I will tell you MY answer... the difference is in the person who hears it. If you agree with Thomas, he's making a valid point, if you don't, he's whining. If you like Kaepernick, he's making a protest statement, if you don't, he's whining. If you like Trump, he's speaking out against a biased media, if you don't, he's whining...

So the next time you think somebody is whining... check yourself and your own beliefs... almost guarantee you will disagree with the underlying sentiment of the "whining"...

You've made a point worthy of consideration.

So has Devil.

The dude has ruled on 3 Monsanto cases despite starting his career there and the obvious conflict of interest. He never even gave the court an appearance of impartiality.

A known womanizer, doubles down with another version of victim blaming. How novel.

Nothing new here. No surprises. Moving on.

The Supremes shouldn't make statements like that.

This article is too long to paste.
Quite worth the read.

The Case For a Thomas Impeachment

I have a question for you bro? Why was Jill fired from her job?

I certainly agree with your thought process yet that hasn't stopped anyone from using the whiner or snowflake label against anyone who complains or questions people they agree with yet.

From what I understand, compensation and personality conflicts.

And this impacts her op-ed how?


Just trying to understand your line of thought here.

It impacts her op-ed just as much as her op-ed effects Clarence Thomas.

If you want to understand just where I am coming from I will make it easy. I have always liked and respected the man. I tend to believe him when it comes to a he said/she said situation. I believe his side of the story while it looks like you believe her side of the story. Since we agree 95 percent of the time I wonder why this time we don't?

If we were in the same room, I'd shake on it.

Not sure why we see this one differently.
It might just be one of those rare but inevitable occurrences.

So would I.

Man we need to be in the same room some day and have a few hours to talk. :)I would enjoy it very much.

next time I'm planning to be on your side of the state, I'll PM you.

I will make plans and reservations, as it will be an honor bud.

I don't really care what other people do. I can choose to be a part of it or not.

There's no denying that. Yet at the same time, maybe people will see the stupidity in it all when they see their own tactics pointed back at them.

But I doubt it.