I remember all the lefties running around here with their hair on fire because Trump was Butt buddies ( their words not mine ) with Russia. Now Biden takes the sanctions put on Russia by Trump off and Russia builds their pipeline to Germany. Yes I said Pipeline. Germany will take the money they save by not having a military to support because we protect from Russia with our Military and send that money to Russia. Now who is Russia's butt buddy?

Illegals at our southern borders that Trump had under control are running wild. Also where did the outrage about kids in cages go?

Gas was $1.80 under Trump. Pushing $3.00 under Biden. Why was everything so horrible under Trump now OK with sleepy Joe?

lmfao here we go with the gas price nonsense again.

especially when its conservatives who keep claiming no president has a real effect on gas prices. now all of sudden.....

and BTW, last month Biden put new sanctions on Russia. so what exactly are you talking about right now?

Germany, or any other country, are free to do business with whoever they choose.

unless ofcourse you think every country needs to bow to America's will?

Russia - see Swish.

Illegals - kids in being separated from parents is a massive issue and has been stopped. Kids and illegals crossing the border in "cages" is still an issue. It was discussed extensively a while ago after Biden took office.

Gas - see Swish's comments, and add a whole bunch of factors that Biden/Trump did not / does not control.

The gas prices are on Biden. He choose to shutdown the pipeline and that put this issue squarely on his shoulders.

The post gets a few things wrong. First, Biden’s order didn’t close the Keystone Pipeline; it’s still operating. Second, Keystone doesn’t supply gasoline; it carries Canadian crude oil to U.S. refineries. Third, the gasoline shortages are due to a problem with the operator of the Colonial Pipeline, not a lack of crude oil — or anything connected with Keystone or Keystone XL.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/20...ted-keystone-p/

this is why my patience with you conservatives is at a zero. you out here blatantly lying. the pipeline ISN'T EVEN CLOSED.

i swear to god you conservatives are so fake.

Yes. And the world is flat and Trump won the last election.

You still keep pushing that garbage narrative. The keystone pipeline was going to carry Canadian shale oil to ports to be sold to China. Keep up. It has/had nothing to do with American oil.

Facts don't matter.

Keep your heads in the sand if you wish. Gas prices are going up on Biden's watch. Although, liberals like paying taxes so higher gas prices might not be bad for ya either.

Since you don't care about facts, I won't bother to mention the Colonial Pipeline shutting down due to hackers that created major shortages. I mean, Biden, right?

The "MOB" is out in full force today in the 'defense position'!

Calling out your BS isn't a defensive position.

You know, I actually tripped in my yard mowing the grass the other day. Freaking Biden.

In all seriousness, this kind of stuff irks me because the false narratives detract from where focused criticism should go.

For instance, I was actually having a legitimate conversation one time with someone where I critiqued Obama's enforcement "red line" policy with Syrian use of chemical weapons back a while ago. It was a legit back and forth until someone else chimed in and said something along the lines of "He won't strike because he's a Muslim." It derailed the whole conversation and made me face palm.

Every administration deserves sharp criticism for things they do wrong. Stuff like this though just jades people.

There will undoubtedly be reasons to get outraged over a Biden decision, but I don't think we've gotten close yet. Over course I haven't tuned in for the talking points lately.

The open Chinese agent Pseudo President Biden/OR Those really in charge/ are on their knees to China.

This equals the end of the USA.

The reality is you don't know where it was going to be sold. Oil being pumped in Pennsylvania or Texas hits the global market.

The more oil hitting the market stabilizes the prices giving OPEC less control over price. To say that this gallon or that gallon is going to be sold here or there is ignorant of how things work.

Note: I don't think you are a ignorant person. Possibly a little naive on how global commodity trading works.

The days of oil being brought out of the ground in Texas, refined, then sent directly to the Texaco station are long gone.

Thanks for providing an example of my previous post.

I don't think that's true. All I know is we used to be independent and now we are not and gas that was$1.80 is now $3.00. Actually I don't blame Biden, Iblame guys like you,Pit,OCD and all you Libs.

You don’t have to ‘think it’s true’. It is true. You can avoid facts all you’d like. Just don’t expect the rest of us to.

If you're going to blame someone, that's fine, but you need to show rational causation and be consistent.

I think there's often a bias to want to blame someone in office for things that happen just because that person has a D or an R after their name. I know we're talking about Biden here, but to be fair, that would happen to Trump sometimes, too.

Just because gas prices rise, does not mean right away that it is the administration's fault.

#factsdontmatter

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/202...sh=37f5e3d41d28

Long long history to back you up - but it don't matter none.

On the other hand I guess if you Blame Trump for making Covid worse than it should have been maybe he can take credit for the fact Gas Prices plummeted due to the pandemic. . . .

If you wish to blame me because I want all Americans to have healthcare, blame me. If you wish to blame me because I want all Americans who work 40 hours a week to be able to make a living rather than be treated as sub human, blame me. If you wish to blame me because I think everyone in our nation should be treated with dignity and respect, blame me. If you wish to blame someone for thinking that we should be given the truth behind a failed attempt to overthrow our election, blame me.

But rather than just throwing out trash one liners, try explaining what you mean by this....



But before you keep spewing tour rhetoric, just remember this...



Then explain to me all about your christian values.

Wow, Kanye really does sound like a jerk.

Sorry, it's Friday and I'm in a loopy mood.

Let me guess, you also believe that the Government is putting something in the vaccines that will allow them to track you (and you believe it while holding an Iphone)

You probably also believe that if you put a mask in the microwave, little worms will emerge.. I mean, they are made in China right?

Get back to us when you have proof....

What facts. I notice you or Portland didn't reply to my post.

You’re correct in that the oil wasn’t just bound for China, but foreign markets in general. Either way it has nothing to do with the current cost of gas at the pump, or our energy independence.

But you are wrong.

As I said earlier, the oil hitting the market helps greatly to control the price. If OPEC wants more money, they curtail supply. They don't pump more.

Keeping oil at a competitive price brings in the oil being produced in the Dakotas. Once oil reaches a certain point, it no longer becomes feasible to produce that oil.

So in a very real way it impacts our country. I'd say that oil doesn't even need to flow through the pipeline to keep a balance. The prospect of it being able to do so might do the trick, and it is then there if needed.

I know we are transitioning to less oil usage, but we are still probably 25 years away from that becoming a reality in a big way.

I am all for electric cars, but China controls battery production. We have to get many of the materials like lithium, rare earth, etc. from China. China may prevent us from being able to do so given the current technologies and political situation. How long can we depend on them? They needed us back when President Nixon first opened relations. Today, not so much.

I am not against your hope we go gasoline free. Honestly, I feel much the same. I just want to make sure it is sustainable. Sustainable meaning maybe the next 40 years. We have to have something to use in replacement that is also reliable, and right now my opinion is reliability is in question. Not because it won't work, more a question of if we can make it work.

That's weird. When Bush was President, all the libs on here blamed him for the price of gas. You know, "Bush and his oil buddy's." But, it's different now? (and yes, I'm smart enough to know. But some of the dumb people on here weren't. Most of them were libs/dems)

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf

https://www.statista.com/chart/18368/weekly-initial-jobless-claims/

Look Duty, I don't give a damn what you believe or don't, keep my name out of your little lib hate rants. Super simple. Then I won't have to remind you how you Trumpians have trashed the country with all this crazy Q crap and EVERYTHING at this point is yours and Trumps fault.

Please give me the sources of your information. Just saying it doesn't make it true. Show me where the increase of people on welfare has gone from 2 million to 16 million since December.

You do realize what flows through the Keystone pipeline is the nastiest, dirtiest and most expensive oil product to refine and it is not oil for our country. So we end up with all of Canada's trash from refining it only for it to go to foreign markets. There's nothing "American" about that. We get all of the waste with little to no benefit. The Keystone Pipeline does not make America more energy "independent"

In the first two days alone since Ford introduced the new electric F150, over 44,000 have been ordered......

GM to build $2.3B battery plant for electric vehicles in Tennessee, creating 1,300 jobs

https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/g...see/7240041002/

That's right here in my area. They are coming. Americans are also building those 44,000 F-15's.

Our Path to an All-Electric Future

By 2025, GM will launch 30 EVs around the world, and more than two-thirds will be available in North America. Cadillac, GMC, Chevrolet and Buick will all be represented, with EVs at all price points for families, work, adventure and performance.

https://www.gm.com/electric-vehicles.html

All you had to do was pay attention.

As far as Israel is concerned. If you think it's just fine to steal a country from people and then refuse to recognize them or allow them to have their own territory to claim as their own, I understand. We did the same to Native Americans and won't even teach it in a history class. We've "whitewashed" it. So I can see how that would seem perfectly normal to people such as yourself.

You see, until there is a solution that recognizes a Palestinian state there will never be a long lasting peace over there. That's what people endorse. A solution. And let's take a quick look at Netanyahu shall we?

Currently he's under indictment and facing three counts of fraud, three counts of breech of trust and one count of bribery.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-47409739

I can see why you may find that appealing as well.

I think too many are plugged into one source of "news" and it's the sort of news that promotes the modern day Democratic party as being akin to Communists. There are plenty of folks that are guilty of single source "news" on the left - but you only have to look at Fox, which is the #1 "show" on the networks, and see their legal defense that said "You can't believe any of the 'facts' Tucker Carlson tells you" ....

I listened to a local Right Wing broadcast here on the radio - it was railing against how many illegal children were being born in NC - without ANY facts or details, the show basically claimed that the official numbers were off by a factor of about 1000. It was ridiculous fear mongering - which is what the GOP does - if I was a listener that had come to trust the host because they sprinkled some truths or plausible stories in now and again, it would be easy to start getting a deep seated hate and want to embrace anything in politics that talked about "Anglo Saxon". . . . I see people embracing the AZ recount and talking about how Biden will be out of office by the end of the year. I see misinformation and lies embraced continuously.

I mean if you thought's Trump's phone call to Ukraine was fine, if you thought that his attempts to subvert the Mueller report were kosha and that Barr didn't mislead the world with his preemptive press report of the report (which more than one federal judge has since publicly gone on record as chastising Barr for, for exactly that) .... there was still something there at the root of the noise and the reporting .... something real. Trying to pin the price of gas on Biden - trying to simply lie about a safe and accurate election - trying to say Biden is dead and there is a doppelganger in his place (yes I've read that) trying to say Biden is either part of a left wing communist party or is being controlled by the lunatic left ... none of it has any founding in anything real.

Some of your responses were so far out there I just had to respond.

Electric vehicles: I just don't see the future for EV. Right now there's no incentive to buy. Maybe by 2050?

1. I want to be able to charge my battery in less than 10 minutes to a full charge. I'll request 5 minutes or less as well. I don't have time to wait either if I'm on a road trip. I need to get up and go! Now! Go!

2. I want to be able to have my EV, embark from my place of residence on a cross country road trip of my own determination, wherever I want to go, not bound by anyone or anything. This means traveling from Columbus Ohio to Wyoming, Idaho, Florida, California, going through Death Valley and other areas.

3. There needs to be charging stations at as many locations as gas stations across the United States. Sounds big and bold, but hey if you want EV to be the future you better get started. I want to be able to approach a small town or city on my journey

4. Everything I just listed, when will we have all of that? 2050? 2060? You act like we're going to have it very soon and because of that I'm laughing at you.

Isreal:

As far as Isreal is concerned, they can do whatever they want as a sovereign nation and one of our greatest allies in the Middle East. We should be military supporting them as well. If I were the president of this country I immediately would.

If you're not going to military support them then its none of your responsibility, nor do you hold the position to tell another independent country to cease fire while they're getting attacked. Get out of here with that type of nonsense thinking! We aren't the world's policeman either, you need to get that through your head. I'm not sure what it will take.

Lastly, you may not like what happened to the Native Americans but they were conquered a long time ago. That's what happens in war, land expansion, hostile take overs, conquests. There are casualties. Doesn't mean you have to like it.

I'll say it again, they were conquered. It happens throughout history to people, populations, and societies. Every single country has went to war and defeated someone else. Also, there is no one currently alive that has been effected by the Native American casualties, which is similar to no African Americans being alive today in the US that have been effected by slavery.

I know you'll like that last part.

So let me get this straight. On a regular basis you make road trips and need to drive more than 300 miles in a day? Sure, some people, but a small percentage of people do. But not most. And most families that can afford a new vehicle often own at least two vehicles. It would be quite practical for at least one of those vehicles to be electric.

So GM is going to produce 30 electric vehicles by 2030 but somehow you know more about the car market than their entire marketing department? And you think that Ford getting over 40,000 orders for their new electric F-150's in just two days doesn't mean that maybe you're the one who may be just slightly out of touch?

You wondered where all of the "green jobs" were and how long we would have to wait for them. I showed you exactly where and when. And now you change the discussion?

Let me explain to you what the words you used actually mean. You used the words "conquered and casualties". When you invade and slaughter native people it's called genocide. At least that's what we call it when anyone else does the same thing.



It appears once again you're talking out of both sides of your mouth. It seems you have no idea that we provide Israel 3.3 billion dollars a year in military aid.

So in summary, you know more about the American car buyer than both Ford and GM. You call genocide something else to make it sound better and you think we should be giving Israel military aid that we've been and are giving them since 1948.

I think you may be one of those same people who claim taking down Confederate statues would be erasing our history only to try to erase our actual history when you don't like the story it tells.

Well alrighty then.

There's never been a Palestine. Regardless, there IS an Israel. What's it called when a terrorist group lobs dumb missiles at a country?

What's it called when said country fights back, but gives notice of what they're going to hit so civilians can leave?

It's a tragedy, of course. People's homes are being destroyed, yes.

When was the last time the middle east had peace?

Are you okay with indiscriminate bombing of a country?

I'm not okay with any of it actually. But either you want long term peace in the region or you don't. There most certainly was a British controlled Palestine before the 1948 establishment of Israel. Yet at the same time that region was ruled by Israel and the Jews before there was a Palestine.



What I'm wanting to see achieved is a lasting peace. None of that will ever happen until there is a two state solution. As of now we have both sides pointing at the other. Israel was threatening mass evictions of Palestinians living in Jerusalem. This stirred up the latest conflict. Now we can either sit here and blame the other side for instigating the problem.

Or we can look at what the underlying cause of the conflict is and look for a long term solution. This same conflict has happened over and over again. Until we solve the underlying problem it will continue. You either cure a disease or you treat the symptoms to try and keep the disease in check. So far we haven't been very good at treating the symptoms and we certainly aren't addressing trying to cure the disease.

https://nypost.com/2021/05/22/eugene-chung-nfl-team-said-im-not-right-minority-in-interview/

I don't know where this story goes, but, figure it would be nice if there were just equal opportunity for all.

I didn't search this story out! I looked up "nfl news" and this story pops up, 5 hours ago, NY post.

NFL coach is told he's the wrong minority in the interview process for a nfl coaching job is I think the gist.

I think you must have me confused with someone else. What are you smoking?

Half the points or assumptions you've brought up don't even pertain to me or anything I've said.

Confederate statues? Nobody brought that up. I could care less since it's not part of the topic. Don't act like a little kid and just introduce random things that aren't even part of the subject. It doesn't make you look good.

Also,call me when I can take my EV on a vacation road trip.

You’re already getting calls. It’s going straight to voice mail.

So you're a one car family. Got it.

America doesn't do "underlying cause". That would create a need to rewrite all of our history books.

I was going through this post and your reply in general and working in construction in general, I noticed in my works service order requests how many EV chargers we have been installing and it got me to thinking, researching and discussing with my wife.

Pretty much the future for EV is already in full swing.
275 to 325 miles on a full charge for most vehicles. One charge would get me back and forth to work for a week and a half. The one extended model of Tesla gets up to 521 miles per charge.

With fast chargers-you can go in and get a coffee and use the bathroom, come out in 20 minutes and get 80-120 miles on a charge. If you are charging at home-if your electric is the same rate as mine, you could get a full charge on your vehicle for about 4.50 to 7 or 8 dollars depending on what time of day you charge (demand factors). What is a full tank of gas? 50-60 dollars.

We then went and checked if we were going on vacation and wanted to bring our EV (assuming we are going to get the Tesla), we looked at all the places we normally go close to home-Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Columbus, Cedar Point; All can make it on one charge.
Then we looked at going to the beach-We normally stay in North Myrtle and are looking to go to up around Virginia Beach and Florida in the next couple years. We went on www.plugshare.com and found some of the places we have stopped on the way to Myrtle (probably been there 10-12 times). We also checked where we normally stay at Myrtle-The place we stay at, the one next door both have EV Chargers. The Tanger outlets about 5 minutes from our condo has 16 chargers. There were 26 chargers on plugshare within about 15 minutes from our condo. Some are in hotels that we couldn't use but we could get by and have a full charge to begin the drive home.

Also, the batteries are expensive if they would ever have to be changed out-Tesla just did some testing and my wife found out the results-Tesla is getting 500,000 to 1 million miles from their batteries. I don't think I would ever need to worry about replacing battery packs.

What about the value of the cars-We looked up today and found that EV's hold their values much better than regular cars-On average, EV's only lose about 10% of their value after 3 years-and there is almost no mechanical issues that you have to deal with. And also we saw something that I need to look at-that you don't need to change brakes like a normal car because the rotors regen energy back to the batteries and also don't wear pads down as fast-you get 2 to 3 times the pad life.

And if it happens, it would be the deciding factor for us-if the infrastructure bill reinstates a tax credit for EV's-It looks like it will be between $7,500 and 12,000-we just hope we know by the time we have to turn in our lease in November.

The future is now

The future is always now.

The future will work once charging stations are pretty much wherever you park your car. Every hotel will need charging outlets at every parking stall.

Stopping every 120 miles or so for 30 minutes to get another 120 miles down the road doesn't work.

For commuter traffic, dinky electric golf carts work. For longer trips, they don't. Lucid is making a car that goes 500 miles on a charge. The cost is $60,000. I don't think using Lucid or Tesla as your standard bearer is useful. Maybe it's a start. Great.

When you can put people in a EV that is at least mid sized to full sized that get 500 miles per charge for around $25K, then the future might work. You'd still have to solve the problem about charge times and charging availability.

Is anybody looking in to wind powered cars? LOL

I'll add this separate post to show I am not against electric and to balance my position from my above post.

Serious question for those who maybe know more about it that I.

We currently have hybrid vehicles. The problem most have is they don't run on full electric very long. The electric kicks in on start up until you maybe hit 20MPH and going down hills. Low load stuff, but enough to bump mileage up maybe 15 MPG or so.

Why couldn't we have a hybrid that basically runs on electric with a gas powered motor that keeps the battery charged for extended range? Maybe we could run say 1200 miles on a battery charge, using maybe 10 gallons of gasoline in the process before you actually had to take 5 hours to fully charge the batteries. Maybe gasoline doesn't have to be the fuel that powers the generator. Maybe propane or natural gas? Both of those are in ready supply and have lower emissions. We can make hydrogen fairly easily. I know the "H" word is taboo for some, but I think we have come a long way since we were filling blimps with the stuff. I agree, filling a football field sized thin canvas sack with hydrogen isn't a good idea.

Walmart had chargers at virtually all their stores.. How many walmarts are there? 4737...

If you've not driven an electric vehicle (non golf cart), you should.. Amazing.. Quiet, fast, all torque. Fun to drive really. I've driven a Tesla Model S.. Yikes..

Some people act like there were gas stations on every corner when the car came out. Can you imagine all the grief car owners got from those operating a horse and buggy for years after the car came out?

You're seeing something very similar now.

But it won't last much longer with GM going all electric by 2035.

GM to go all-electric by 2035, phase out gas and diesel engines

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/autos/gm-go-all-electric-2035-phase-out-gas-diesel-engines-n1256055

Peen, you can't get a mid sized to full sized car that gets 500 miles to a tank of gas for 25K.

The mileage I spoke of was not for the rinky dink golf cart cars. That was the average of all vehicles out now-and it is improving.

After I saw your post, I went back and looked at some of the new technology-they are out in limited supply of a level 3 charger that will get you 80% charge of your vehicle in 10 minutes.

If you look at the plugshare website-there are already chargers at many hotels, newer gas stations, parking decks and college campuses.

And if the infrastructure bill goes through, there is going to be billions for green vehicle infrastructure and some tax rebates also. Biden is president now and he is promoting this technology. Biden is promoting green technology-

And for the rinky dink golf carts, we parked next to a Tesla a couple weeks ago and it looked really nice-and the new F150s are hardly golf carts

Cool...I am not against electric. Get the charging issues sorted out, I would buy one.

I may buy one anyway. It's not like all of our driving is over the road, and we will maintain 2 vehicles. I wouldn't mind an electric for the two of us to kick around town on trips to the store or some restaurant.

For road trips, which we take, I'll stick to gas until we can drive 7-8 hours and they have available charging stations at hotels so the car is ready to go in the morning, and by charging stations, I am not talking 2-3 over in the dark corner of the parking lot. I don't want to get there and none are available. That does you no good.

I mean, gas prices have nothing to do with the fact that everything is opening back up, people are traveling, its getting to summer driving season, or the hacking of the pipeline. Nope, it's just Biden.

Go Joe Manchin...help stop the cheating!

Manchin Refuses to Back Dem 'Voting Rights' Bill


By Eric Mack |

Sunday, 06 June 2021



In news that deals a potentially lethal blow to Democrats' For the People Act, moderate Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., says he will not vote for a bill that delivers a "partisan advantage" in elections.

"Of course, some in my party have argued that now is the time to discard such bipartisan voting reforms and embrace election reforms and policies solely supported by one party," Manchin wrote in Sunday in the Charleston Gazette-Mail. "Respectfully, I do not agree.

"I believe that partisan voting legislation will destroy the already weakening binds of our democracy, and for that reason, I will vote against the For the People Act."

With the Senate split 50-50 with Republicans, Manchin's decision sinks Democrats' hopes of forcing the voting reform bill through the Senate by doing away with the filibuster that requires 60 votes and Republican support.

"This more than 800-page bill has garnered zero Republican support," Manchin wrote. "Why? Are the very Republican senators who voted to impeach Trump because of actions that led to an attack on our democracy unwilling to support actions to strengthen our democracy? Are these same senators, whom many in my party applauded for their courage, now threats to the very democracy we seek to protect?

"The truth, I would argue, is that voting and election reform that is done in a partisan manner will all but ensure partisan divisions continue to deepen."

The Senate filibuster must remain, Manchin argued.

"With that in mind, some Democrats have again proposed eliminating the Senate filibuster rule in order to pass the For the People Act with only Democratic support. They've attempted to demonize the filibuster and conveniently ignore how it has been critical to protecting the rights of Democrats in the past.

"Furthermore, I will not vote to weaken or eliminate the filibuster."

Manchin admits the filibuster does stall Congress from passing legislation, but he maintains stalling partisan legislation is the right thing to do for Americans.

"It has been said by much wiser people than me that absolute power corrupts absolutely," Manchin wrote. "Well, what I've seen during my time in Washington is that every party in power will always want to exercise absolute power, absolutely. Our founders were wise to see the temptation of absolute power and built in specific checks and balances to force compromise that serves to preserve our fragile democracy.

"The Senate, its processes and rules, have evolved over time to make absolute power difficult while still delivering solutions to the issues facing our country and I believe that's the Senate's best quality."

Manchin was called out by President Joe Biden in Tulsa, Oklahoma, last week for not voting with Democrats, but Manchin did not return a swipe, just a warning.

"Today's debate about how to best protect our right to vote and to hold elections, however, is not about finding common ground, but seeking partisan advantage," Manchin lamented, adding, "partisan policymaking won't instill confidence in our democracy — it will destroy it.

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/joemanchin-democrat-electionreform-senate/2021/06/06/id/1024073/

There was no cheating. You're just a poor loser. Your own party members in some states have already debunked those lies.

Who would that be...Lisa Murkowski, Susan Collins, Ben Sasse, Mitt Romney...Liz Cheney? all RINOs

It doesn't matter that you call them names because you can't actually - you know - come up with proof of anything .... what matters is that 80+ court cases all the way up to the supreme court have all ruled on the lack of ANY evidence and said that YOU and your LIES are exactly that. Bull Crap.

In addition to that - in AZ they have a bogus, non binding "AUDIT" by a bunch of rank and inept amateurs called "NINJAS" who have already broken audit protocols ... but even with their extreme agenda, incompetence and goal of proving election fraud they found NOTHING. Just like Trump and his hand pick investigation committee found NOTHING to support your claims and Trumps claims of mass voter fraud.

Truth hurts but it's right there slapping you in the face.

Hey - if you are one of the extreme whackos that believe Trump is going to be "reinstated" by August please have the strength of your convictions and put that in black and white ... if your just here to troll and say stupid crap then feel free to keep on doing what your doing. Once 40 left town, we need someone to fill his shoes.

I don't know anything about this "reinstated" by August statement of yours...

Did you watch Trump speak last night?

No. It sounds like you did.

Nope, but I heard he slurred a lot.

Then, what are you afraid of...if it's a non-binding audit? hmmm You should be pleased they'll find no shenanigans took place...

https://www.oann.com/ariz-senators-react-to-pa-audit-visit/

That is a tremendously WEAK argument - it fact it is not an argument at all. AZ election has been audited twice before - professionally and legally.

If the boot was on the other foot you would be apoplectic. You certainly were not saying that the Mueller report was cool and groovy because after all what is Trump afraid of? Pffft. On this topic you are a complete hypocrite.

I'll answer.

Afraid isn't quite the right word, but these follow-on audits make an even bigger mockery of our democratic system than has already happened. We've had numerous, baseless challenges to the results of a legit election, those were rejected (due to lack of evidence), but somehow the narrative is kept alive by a relative handful of braying donkeys. When that wasn't bad enough, the loser of the election incited an attempted coup to try to disrupt our election certification process.

These ninja audits looking for bamboo or whatever is simply a group of people refusing to let the joke end.

Who have zero authority, zero training, zero accountability, zero transparency ..... and they all have an agenda.

You obviously just like to spout crap without having a clue. Republican election officials in Georgia certified the election. They even had a recount. A hand recount. There were recounts in Arizona and Wisconsin.

You're just a poor loser that can't admit defeat.

You try and give some validity to a company, Cyberninjas that is owned by a guy who promoted election fraud theories like this is some kind of valid process.

I will pray for you to get better.

Your party is following him like he is the pied piper. Somebody has to watch him. Obviously you don't care the Republican party has gone to hell.

j/c...

Not sure where else to put this. Some good news...

You mean when they say Biden is doing nothing that they are wrong? I guess they're so used to someone screaming and Tweeting about everything they don't understand that isn't needed to actually take action. Not everyone has to say "LOOK AT ME!" 24/7 to do their job.

The hackers' bitcoin account got hacked. That's awesome.

Thank God we did that to those SOBs. Now we need to not publicly tell Russia if it continues we will shut their economy down.

Guatemala’s prez blames Biden for border crisis as protesters tell Kamala Harris ‘Trump won’

By Steven Nelson



Vice President Kamala Harris was greeted Monday by protesters in Guatemala telling her “Trump won” and “go home” — as the country’s president blamed President Biden for this year’s migrant crisis.

The rally was visible to Harris’ motorcade as she arrived to meet with Guatemala President Alejandro Giammattei one day after he blamed the US for luring his constituents north.

“Kamala, Trump won,” read a large sign near the Central American country’s presidential palace.

“Kamala, Mind Your Own Business,” another sign said, according to a pool report.

Images posted to Twitter show other signs, including one that tells Biden’s migration czar: “Kamala, Go Home.”

Another large sign set up by activists features a doctored photo of a pregnant Harris.

The poster read, “Guatemala is pro-life #momalahelpme.” Harris does not have biological children.
Protesters display signs reading, "Kamala, ming your own business" and "Kamala go home."
Vice President Kamala Harris was met with signs telling her to “go home.”
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Protesters hold up sign reading, "Kamala, Trump won."
Protesters holding up a up sign saying “Trump won” waited for Vice President Kamala Harris outside Guatemala’s presidential palace.
@eInuevoestado/Twitter

Another sign that appears to have been hoisted by activists onto a tall billboard along the roadway says, “Kamala Stop Funding Criminals #FueraDeGuatemala.”

It’s unclear how many participants were involved in the protest.

Giammattei said in a CBS News interview that aired Sunday that the Biden administration is to blame for sparking the migration crisis.
Vice President Kamala Harris waves alongside Guatemala's Minister of Foreign Affairs Pedro Brolo.
Vice President Kamala Harris traveled to Guatemala to discuss the border crisis with President Alejandro Giammattei.
AFP via Getty Images

The Guatemalan president said he and Harris “are not on the same side of the coin” on migration.

“We asked the United States government to send more of a clear message to prevent more people from leaving,” Giammattei said.

When Biden took office, “The message changed too: ‘We’re going to reunite families, we’re going to reunite children,’” he said. “The very next day, the coyotes were here organizing groups of children to take them to the United States.”
Guatemalan President Alejandro Giammattei.
Guatemalan President Alejandro Giammattei during the bilateral meeting with Vice President Kamala Harris.
AFP via Getty Images

After a day of meetings, Harris will depart Guatemala on Monday evening to travel to Mexico, where she will hold meetings Tuesday with President Andrés Manuel López Obrador.

Former President Donald Trump made curbing illegal immigration and stopping asylum-seeker caravans from Central America major themes of his four-year term. At one point, he cut off foreign aid for regional governments.

Critics attribute the record surge of illegal immigration to Biden’s policies, including his decision to end Trump’s “Remain in Mexico” policy that required most asylum-seekers from Central America to remain in Mexico while US courts reviewed their claims of persecution.

Biden also ended construction of Trump’s US-Mexico border wall and urged Congress to pass legislation that would establish a path to citizenship for most illegal immigrants. Republicans said the legislation and Biden policy changes created new “pull” factors for illegal immigration — countering Harris’ emphasis on “root causes” in Central America.

The number of US-Mexico border detentions soared to a 21-year monthly high of more than 178,000 in April, the most recent month for which statistics are available. Many families and unaccompanied children are from the three-country “Northern Triangle” of Central America, which includes Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador.

https://nypost.com/2021/06/07/guatemala-protesters-tell-kamala-harris-trump-won/

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57387350

Oh my, in some circles people would interpret that as being Xenophobic and racist...she said it and you posted it!

Yep, stick to posting articles. Your written posts and attempts to troll don't work.

OK, Great, she is saying don't come to the USA.

How about we start sending people back when they show up? Unless we do that, her words are lip service.

Talks cheap. it takes money to buy whisky.

translation: She said the words I wanted to hear, but unless she follows through and does the things I want done it's all for nought... I know it's so hard to give a dem props peen, but you can at least try.

I know why she said it, I get why Biden is going to handle the border from a more centrist position, but I don't get why they think they need to silence GOPer crying by giving into the send them back crowd... I don't want open borders, but I do want those that are facing death threats to be able to escape. I mean we've provided asylum or sanctuary for those people since forever, regardless of the mouth breathers opinions. And from all the news reports, we could use the laborers.

So if they tell them to come they're terrible and if they tell them not to come they're terrible. This is how a troll would act.

Telling citizens of other countries not to come to your country illegally is not Xenophobic or terrible. But yes - if you look up Internet Toll in the dictionary, it has Fishtheice as a named example.

I am giving her props even if it didn't sound like it. If that is what we do, great!

Tom Homan slams Kamala Harris: 'Root cause' of border crisis is Biden

Fox News Staff
By Fox News Staff | Fox News



Homan slams Kamala Harris: ‘Root cause’ of border crisis is Biden

Fox News contributor Tom Homan slams the Biden administration’s handling of the border surge

Fox News contributor and former Acting ICE Director Tom Homan said there is no need for Vice President Kamala Harris to go to Guatemala to try to end the migrant surge because President Biden's policies are the root cause of the issue.

HARRIS, IN GUATEMALA, TELLS POTENTIAL MIGRANTS THEY WILL BE TURNED BACK: 'DO NOT COME'

TOM HOMAN: She doesn't need to go to Guatemala to know what the root of the problem is. The root of the problem is the Biden border policies.

The men and women of CBP and ICE told the transition team, if they end the Trump policy there will be a surge. The president of Guatemala said Biden’s border policies will cause a surge. The president of Mexico has told them. They know what is causing the surge.

She doesn't have to go to Guatemala to tell people not to come. Their actions speak louder than words. They see thousands of people being released in the United States. They see ICE is no longer doing law enforcement operations. Their actions speak louder than words.

WATCH THE FULL INTERVIEW BELOW

https://www.foxnews.com/media/tom-homan-kamala-harris-root-cause-border-crisis-biden

Handcuffing ICE and the Border Patrol, Biden’s imposed de-facto open-borders policy

By Post Editorial Board

May 30, 2021



President Joe Biden is putting ICE on … ice. Combined with his other moves, it’s worse than mere open borders.

Yes, he’s resisting calls from leftist radicals to scrap Immigration and Customs Enforcement altogether. Yet he’s “placed deportation officers on a leash so tight that some say their work is being functionally abolished,” reports the Washington Post.

ICE deported fewer than 3,000 people last month, an all-time low for the agency’s 6,000 officers, despite a caseload of 3.2 million and a 20-year high in border crossings.

A court blocked Biden’s 100-day ban on most deportations, so he just imposed new rules that shift the agency’s priorities and make it tougher for officers to detain virtually anyone but the most serious criminals and known national-security threats.

Agents say they now spend their time on paperwork, working out or doing nothing at all, the WaPo notes. They actually fear being disciplined more for making an arrest than not making one.

Border Patrol agents, meanwhile, have little time to stop people from crossing as they’re on babysitting duty for unaccompanied minors who’ve entered illegally.

It plainly amounts to the open-borders policy the hard left wants.

America needs ICE and Border Patrol agents to stop drugs, criminals, potential terrorists and even those merely looking to cut the legal-immigration line before they enter. And it needs to send a clear message that those who manage to get in illegally will be deported quickly.

That’s a basic requirement for sovereignty — and public safety. Not to mention that migrants risk their lives and endure enormous hardship to get here.

Unless Biden changes course, expect a lot of suffering, lawlessness and a different kind of America before long.


https://nypost.com/2021/05/30/bidens-imposed-a-de-facto-open-borders-policy/

Do you ever have your own thoughts? Or you an actual parrot with a working knowledge of cutting and pasting?

I try that and people like daman ask for proof and others ask for links.

Exactly

I could have sworn it was you that asked for "proof" - and if I thought you'd give a damn I'd go verify. But we know that's not your game.

j/c...

@CraigCaplan
19Rs Yes on China competition bill: Policy Chair Blunt, Capito, Collins, Cornyn, Finance Ranking Mbr Crapo, Daines, Budget RM Graham, Judiciary RM Grassley, GOP Ldr McConnell, Murkowski, Portman Foreign Rels RM Risch, Romney,Rounds,Sasse,Sullivan Tillis,Commerce RM Wicker & Young

https://twitter.com/CraigCaplan/status/1402406577504669700

I am sure I have, so no need to go back and research. I even did so a few time tongue in cheek to copy Daman. In one I even credited him when I did.

WTH Sheldon Whitehouse?


Democratic Senator Sheldon Whitehouse comes under fire for dismissing his family's long-term membership at an exclusive 'all-white beach club

By Emily Crane Dailymail.com

21 June 2021


Democratic Senator Sheldon Whitehouse has come under fire after he dismissed his long-term family membership at an exclusive and reportedly all-white beach club as 'a long tradition in Rhode Island'.

The 65-year-old progressive senator and his family have been members of the exclusive Bailey's Beach Club in Newport for at least two decades.

Whitehouse was confronted by a GoLocalProv.com reporter on Friday about his family's membership at the club and was asked if it was now accepting minority members.

'I think the people who are running the place are still working on that and I'm sorry it hasn't happened yet,' he said.

When asked if all-white clubs should still exist in 2021, Whitehouse said: 'It's a long tradition in Rhode Island and there are many of them. And I think we just need to work our way through the issues.'
Rhode Island Democratic Senator Sheldon Whitehouse was confronted by a GoLocalProv.com reporter on Friday about his family's membership at the exclusive and predominately white Bailey's Beach Club in Newport
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Rhode Island Democratic Senator Sheldon Whitehouse was confronted by a GoLocalProv.com reporter on Friday about his family's membership at the exclusive and predominately white Bailey's Beach Club in Newport

He refused to answer any further questions.

Despite Whitehouse's comments, his office on Monday denied that the club, which is run by the Spouting Rock Beach Association, is discriminatory and has no minority members.

'The club has no such restrictive policies. The club has had and has members of color,' his spokesman said.

It was not immediately clear how many minority members, if any, the club currently has.



In a 2003 New York Times profile, when asked about the demographics of the club, a life-long member was quoted in the profile saying: 'Jewish, yes... Blacks, not really.'

When Whitehouse was elected back in 2006, he allegedly said he would quit the club.

The local news outlet revealed in 2017 that Whitehouse was still a member but had transferred his shares to his wife Sandra Thornton Whitehouse.

His wife, who he has been married to for 35 years and shares two children with, is one of the top shareholders in the club and is said to visit daily during the summer.

'I think it would be nice if they changed a little bit, but it's not my position,' Whitehouse said back in 2017.

He vowed at the time to take up the issue of diversity at the club 'privately'.
The 65-year-old progressive senator and his family have been members of the exclusive Bailey's Beach Club in Newport (above) for at least two decades
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The 65-year-old progressive senator and his family have been members of the exclusive Bailey's Beach Club in Newport (above) for at least two decades
Whitehouse, his wife Sandra Thornton Whitehouse and their families have been members of the club for decades
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The senator transferred his shares in the club to his several years back
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Whitehouse, his wife Sandra Thornton Whitehouse and their families have been members of the club for decades. The senator transferred his shares in the club to his several years back
When Whitehouse was elected back in 2006, he allegedly said he would quit the club. The local news outlet revealed in 2017 that Whitehouse was still a member but had transferred his shares to his wife Sandra Thornton Whitehouse
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When Whitehouse was elected back in 2006, he allegedly said he would quit the club. The local news outlet revealed in 2017 that Whitehouse was still a member but had transferred his shares to his wife Sandra Thornton Whitehouse

The club has long been considered elite and has been described as one of the most exclusive clubs in the US.

It was frequented by the likes of President John F. Kennedy in the early 60s.

more at:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...beach-club.html

I don't know the validity to the story and if this guy has talked out of both sides of his mouth or what. If he's broken the law or broken ethics rules - hold him accountable. Good.

What I do know - you posting this story means you are a hypocrite. Dudes not even the POTUS and you excused and enabled far far far worse actions in the past. Pffft.

Hypocrisy is hypocrisy. It matters little whether you're the Pres or simply a member of Congress.

That said, there's some smoke here, but is there fire? Just because an exclusive club has an overwhelmingly non-minority membership doesn't necessarily mean they're racist. I'd say that him promising to quit the club once elected is suspicious, but hardly proof.

WTF needs to be worked on? There is NO work required, just a decision to be made. A decision they've had decades to make. The fact that there has NEVER been Black members tells me that they've already made their choice.


WTF is this- 1954?

Local news.
New Monmouth poll.
80% of voters want voter ID.
also majority wanted early voting in Ohio.

But 80% of voters want voter ID.

80% usually don't agree on anything.

Some people say there are no black members, some say there are, but very few. Nobody has said that this was due to procedure/rules within the club. There's a lot insinuated in that article that isn't back up with fact.

There are a lot of private clubs that have exclusive membership and don't have to give reasons why whey accept some and don't accept others. Especially if they are truly private and don't take public money.

Most you can't even apply. You have to be invited by a member or two, then approved by the membership board.

A house member is accused of rape of a minor,, you got nothing to say... As unsightly as this guys actions are, it's not a criminal act.

If what that article is insinuating is true, then I say "have at 'em". That article has a desperate "own the libs" stink to it, though.

Pretty sure there are no Dawg Duty type members either. I don't care. Let them have their club full of tight ass White people.

I guess one shoe doesn't fit all.

Everybody is a misfit somewhere.

Leftists Siege Biden White House, Blocking All Entrances in Demand for Climate ‘Infrastructure’ Priorities

WASHINGTON, DC - JUNE 28: Rep. Cori Bush (D-MO) (L) and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) rallying hundreds of young climate activists in Lafayette Square on the north side of the White House to demand that U.S. President Joe Biden work to make the Green New Deal into law on June …
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Hannah Bleau


28 Jun 2021


A group of activists, flanked by noteworthy Democrat politicians, protested outside of the White House on Monday, demanding the Biden administration adopt an infrastructure plan that prioritizes climate change and blocking every entrance to the White House as part of their demand for action.

Activists from the far-left Soros-funded group the Sunrise Movement marched to the White House on Monday to demand the Biden administration put climate change-related initiatives at the forefront, particularly in terms of the ongoing infrastructure negotiations. According to reports, protesters are blocking every entrance to the White House, demanding Biden heed to their Green New Deal agenda:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/...ure-priorities/

Siege lmao, refer to Jan 6th to see a siege.

That's actually somewhat funny. Although I'd put a blindfold over Sleepy Joe's eyes and a cigar in Clinton's mouth.

Funniest thing was scrolling down that dolt's twitter and seeing a retweet -- "Media, please stop showing pics of people on beaches during a heatwave, that's a subtle form of climate change denial."

You just cannot make some of this stuff up. Way too many unreported incidences of millennials dropped on their heads as toddlers.

Ha!

Can we start by making school curiculum more rigourous and not so much participation trophy?

[rimshot]

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I always enjoy a clever one-liner.

Did they arrest AOC for her attempted coup?

What attempted coup?

Tracy Stone-Manning another despicable Biden nominee. Do the right thing Joe Manchin!

Republicans in the U.S. Senate are ramping up opposition to President Joe Biden’s pick to lead the Bureau of Land Management after a conservative news site and other news reports detailed her connection to an Idaho tree-spiking scheme three decades ago.

Without GOP support, Montana’s Tracy Stone-Manning would need the votes of every Democrat in the evenly divided Senate. While no Democrats have voiced opposition to her nomination, Energy Committee Chairman Joe Manchin III, a West Virginia Democrat, has not yet disclosed how he plans to vote.

His committee, which would send the nomination to the Senate floor, on Friday released its schedule for the coming week. It did not include a confirmation vote on Stone-Manning.

Republican opposition ratcheted up following a June 11 report by the Daily Caller News Foundation, the nonprofit arm of the conservative news and opinion organization co-founded by Fox News host Tucker Carlson, as well as an Associated Press report.

The articles related Stone-Manning’s role in mailing a threatening warning letter as part of a tree-spiking incident. Tree-spiking, a form of sabotage in which a metal rod is hammered into a tree trunk, is a federal crime because it can injure tree workers as well as destroy equipment.

Stone-Manning, a University of Montana student at the time, admitted to mailing the letter in 1989 on behalf of extreme environmentalist activists who’d tied spikes to trees in Idaho’s Clearwater National Forest.

John P. Blount, a co-conspirator who was later convicted and served prison time for the incident, handed Stone-Manning an anonymous letter, which she then retyped and sent to the U.S. Forest Service, according to court records.

The profanity-laced letter warned the U.S. Forest Service that trees in the forest, parts of which were due to be sold to logging interests, had been spiked and could be dangerous to workers.

Stone-Manning later said she sent it because she feared for her own safety if she denied Blount’s request, and to protect forest workers who could have been harmed by the spiked trees.

She was questioned about the incident by Republican state lawmakers in 2013, when she was nominated to head the Montana Department of Environmental Quality.

“I’m sure everyone in this room regrets things they’ve done in their early 20s, but we all accumulate lessons,” Stone-Manning said at the time, according to an article in the Montana Standard.

Two Republicans in the U.S. Senate, Energy Committee ranking member John Barrasso of Wyoming as well as Jim Risch of Idaho, said they would oppose Stone-Manning’s nomination in the wake of the recent news reports.

Barrasso called the incident “disqualifying.” He accused Stone-Manning of misleading the committee in a written questionnaire in which she said she’d never been the target of an investigation, though she did say in the questionnaire she testified against a person in the tree-spiking case.

Prosecutors subpoenaed Stone-Manning as part of the investigation, and she received immunity to testify against the plan’s co-conspirators. She complained about the subpoena process at the time in a local newspaper.

“It’s clear that Ms. Stone-Manning was intentionally trying to deceive the Senate Committee on Energy and Natural Resources,” Barrasso said. “She told the committee she had never been the subject of an investigation and yet complained about being investigated in the press. President Biden should withdraw her nomination.”

Risch said Stone-Manning “colluded with eco-terrorists.”

“We cannot ask Bureau of Land Management employees to serve under a director who aided those who endangered the land users they work on behalf of each day,” he said in a statement.

Barrasso appeared opposed to Stone-Manning even before calling for her withdrawal.

He was aggressive in questioning Stone-Manning’s political history and opposition to an “energy-dominance” agenda at her confirmation hearing on June 8, three days before the Daily Caller and AP reports were published.

The Biden administration has stood by Stone-Manning, who would head up a federal agency that’s been without a confirmed director for years.

An administration official who was briefed on the matter but not authorized to speak publicly said Stone-Manning has always been upfront about the incident, which came up at other points in her career, including when she was nominated and confirmed to lead the Montana Department of Environmental Quality in 2013.

She “has never condoned any action that could lead to injury to anyone,” the administration official said.

“Thirty years ago, Tracy testified against someone who had attempted to cause harm by spiking trees,” the administration official said. “She had been approached by a man with a warning letter, which she sent to the U.S. Forest Service because she did not want anyone to get hurt. She has always been honest and transparent about this matter, which has been covered by the media for decades, and ultimately testified against the responsible individual, who was convicted.”

Senate Democrats, too, appear to remain on her side.

Sen. Jon Tester, a former boss of Stone-Manning’s, said he supports her and “I look forward to her confirmation.”

A spokesman for Energy Committee member Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto, D-Nevada, said she will vote yes on the confirmation.

A spokesman for U.S. Sen. Mark Kelly, D-Arizona, a committee member and moderate up for reelection in a purple Western state next year, did not respond to messages seeking comment. A spokeswoman for U.S. Sen. John Hickenlooper, D-Colorado, another committee member, did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Stone-Manning’s supporters have been somewhat less vocal, perhaps as part of a strategy not to call attention to what they view as an irrelevant controversy.

However, at least one Democrat outside Congress who is well-known in public lands circles said learning of the 1989 incident changed his mind.

Bob Abbey, the first BLM director under President Barack Obama, said in a Thursday interview with States Newsroom that Stone-Manning’s involvement with tree spiking “should disqualify her” from leading the agency. The incident would hurt Stone-Manning’s standing within the agency, he said, with every tough decision she faced subject to added scrutiny.

“BLM needs a really strong leader,” he said. “To put someone in that position that has this type of resume will just bring needless controversy that is not good for the agency or for the public lands.”

A spokeswoman for Manchin, a key vote for Senate Democrats on multiple other issues this year, didn’t respond to requests for comment.

https://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/ne...3ef726bc59.html

Protesting... did they break into the capitol building and try to hunt down and hang members of congress? I'm surprised you of all people aren't offended or mad that this happened on the GOPs watch. I can't imagine that you endorse insurrection. Maybe I'm wrong... it's just that most men that have served found it very unsettling at the very least. I personally think the police and military should have taken a few of them out just to set the precedent for next time. You know the way Trump keeps putting out the crazy lies, there will be a next time.

They tried to hang members of congress??

Wow. Can't believe I didn't hear about this 'til now. Well, actually, I can.

They openly chanted to hang Mike Pence. They were also actively seeking Pelosi and AOC, you can conclude what their fate would have been by all the other violence that day. So yes, they were trying to hang members of congress/vp.

Just because the insurrectionists were inept does not mean they weren't very dangerous.

Doooooood. It was just a tourist exhibit and attraction.... just like any other day at the Capitol Building.

https://www.ourquadcities.com/news/natio...ang-mike-pence/

U.S. Gas Prices Surge to Highest Level in 7 Years Ahead of July 4 Break


Simon Kent

30 Jun 2021


Gas prices across the United States are at their highest level since late 2014 with shortages predicted in the run up to the Fourth of July holiday weekend.

According to AAA, the national average on Tuesday is about $3.11 per gallon and by this weekend, that figure may rise another nickel.

UPI reports further strains will come when as many as 43.6 million Americans hit the road for Independence Day weekend, which runs from Thursday to Monday, extending a trend that became evident earlier this month as prices ticked upwards.

“Today, 89% of U.S. gas stations are selling regular unleaded for $2.75 or more. That is a stark increase over last July 4 when only a quarter of stations were selling gas for more than $2.25,” AAA spokesperson Jeanette McGee said in a statement Monday.

“Road trippers will pay the most to fill up for the holiday since 2014.”

According to AAA, Mississippi ($2.74), Louisiana ($2.75) and Texas ($2.79) have the nation’s least expensive gas — and it’s most expensive in Hawaii ($4.00) and Washington state ($3.74).

At the same time California ($4.28) is continuing an unwanted trend of being at the top of the national price scale.

Some stations won’t have any gasoline to sell due to a shortage of delivery drivers, according to UPI, with rising demand and distribution bottlenecks also playing a factor in the shortages.

According to AAA, the highest recorded average price was $4.114 in July 2008.

UPI contributed to this story

https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2021/0...f-july-4-break/

I'm made too! I think we should start driving electric vehicles so we can stop buying oil from the terrorists!

What I wouldn't do for a mean tweet, and some cheap gas!!!

Your priorities seem all out of whack. Maybe it's time you start considering why you lost The White House and the senate when you ran little Donnie in 2020. You'll never be able to fix it as long as you refuse to admit it's broken.

As a rule it is taboo to talk about inflation and crime.

Nobody wants to talk about that.

Sure, talk about it. But being honest about the rise in crime has not been something some people tend to focus on. Some of the highest violent crime rates in our nation are never actually mentioned because a lot of them are not in the states some would wish to have you believe.

Let's just look at states per capita.

The top 10 are.... #10, Arizona. #9, South Carolina. #8, Missouri. #7, Alabama. #6, Louisiana. #5, Nevada. #4, Arkansas. #3, Tennessee. #2, New Mexico. #1, Alaska.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/202...-rate/40968963/

I suppose it could be viewed as how serious the infection has become. States that had lower crime rates are now increasing faster then other places. Makes sense to me.

Again, you make no point at all.

His point was well made and you tried to flip the point.

The link he posted and the stats were not "rate of change" - they were states with the highest rates of violent crimes per capita. Period. States that were mostly considered "Republican".

The point is that Republican's have traditionally called themselves the party of Law and Order. They typically deride Democratically controlled states/cities and have a narrative that Dem controlled cities and states as being lawless and out of control.

Truth is the GOP are happy not to investigate what lead to the insurrection attack on Jan 6th - the Stats Pit supplied show what a crock of BS the narrative is that GOP is for Law and Order - as do the stats that OCD posted showing which party officers support. You only have to look at how the GOP have literally turned their backs on the Capitol Police after the attack and tried to reframe it as no big deal and just like any other tourist visit to realize that. . . . well that's assuming one was capable of independent thought and not brainwashed by their news sources that want to continually paint conspiracy theories and alternate agendas in phrases like as "maybe" - "it's possible" - "it's not impossible" - "We don't know" - "Perhaps" .... plausible deniability. Except it's really not plausible.

Yeah, when speaking about crime, focusing on where violent crime is the highest per capita is something I'm sure you feel shouldn't be a part of the discussion since it's not in the locations you thought they were.

Who is committing the crimes?

You're the one claiming nobody wants to talk about crime. I told you where the most of it per capita was taking place so if you have a counterpoint to make, make it. It's not up to me to do your homework.

All one has to do is look at where the crime is happening. It is usually concentrated populated areas. If a state is somewhat smaller in overall population, crime per capita number will rise, just like they will go down if crime in those cities goes down.

Throw your crap somewhere else. If you don't think crime is a problem, that is your problem, not mine.

I talked about crime, and you bring up crime per capita and how it is in republican states.

Think what you want.

Would you like me to show you the highest murder rates per capita by county? Because several of them are rural counties. Just because you've been led to believe certain things doesn't make them true.

But you see, you've made it clear that you won't follow the links I provide or read any of the sources I post. So me showing it to you is pointless. If someone doesn't want to learn what isn't convenient for them, showing them the truth won't help. That's why I suggest you find the truth for yourself.

You're quite good at posting what you believe. Great at posting what you feel. When it comes to looking at actual evidence being presented to you or trying to dig for the truth yourself? Not so much.

Here are the highest murder rates per county in our nation. Many are not places someone such as yourself would have even guessed. And yes, these statistics are based on 2016 because you see, people love to focus on "urban crime". It's what makes the headlines and many such as yourself wish to focus on while ignoring the rest. I know you'll try to pretend that all of this has changed over the past 5 years. But as per usual you'll offer no evidence to support it.

Violent crime is national as is murder. It's not worse strictly in cities. It's not confined to a political party. A lot of it involves poverty which is both urban and rural. It's time to start looking at facts and using some logic rather than trying to make crime a political talking point. I mean if your goal is to actually hope to make things better.

10 U.S. counties with the highest murder rate

Looking at the per capita data, these counties have the highest homicide rates in the country.

https://www.police1.com/ambush/articles/...rWgaEUmxJkn74J/

How many crimes are committed each day in an area? That tells the real story. The number of people living in an area masks the problem. The land mass does not lie.

No, you have it backwards. If you have ten murders on a town of 1000, that's one murder for every one hundred people. That's 1 in 100. If you have a place that has 1 murderer 1000 that murder rate is much lower. 10 times lower in fact.

People commit murder. The number of murders per person tells the story.

Per capita rates can definitely be slanted. They're not ironclad evidence in this debate as areas with smaller populations can be easily skewed by unusual circumstances/situations... but looking at it by area is ridiculous.

Do those "unusual circumstances/situations" exist everywhere?

I beg to differ. Is it safer to walk on a street that has 100,000 people living there and 10 violent crimes per week for 53 weeks 530 crimes. or to walk on a street that has 100 people living there and average .25 violent crimes per week for 53 weeks or 13 crimes. The average is higher where less people live per person but more crime is being committed where more people live over all. That is what is being discussed here.

I can't believe you're even trying to claim this. If one out of one thousand people in your town get murdered and in a bigger city one out of five thousand people get murdered, you're five times less likely to be murdered in that bigger town.

Do you even understand how math works?

There are an average of 5,800 violent crimes in Cleveland Ohio and and average of 74 violent crimes in Sandusky Ohio. Now I do not care per number of people. The chances of being involved in a violent crime is higher in Cleveland Ohio than Sandusky. There are 14.79 violent crimes happening in Cleveland everyday. There are .20 violent crimes happening everyday in Sandusky. Where will you feel safer walking down the street alone at night?

You clearly do not understand math and probability. Each to their own.

I'll put it another way.

You have to choose to take a pill.

You can choose one of the blue pills of which there are 1,000 - one of the 1,000 will kill you.
You can choose the Red pills of which there are 10,000 - one of the 10,000 will kill you.
Choose wisely.

It's not really hard. Facts really should matter more.

I'm no expert on probability (you seem to be speaking as if you are), so correct me where I'm wrong.

Even if a higher "per capita" rate is evident, isn't it still more dangerous in a higher populated area? There is a higher random chance of coming face to face with a perpetrator.

So, there are two events taking place... one has 10 people with a 10% covid infection rate. The other has 100 people with a 7% infection rate.

Since you have no control over who you have contact with, would you rather walk through the room with 7 covid-positives or only one?

If you are taking the region/sample size as a whole - then probability is what it is - if the per capita rate is lower then you are better off in a highly populated region with more overall crime but less crime per capita.

If you start getting granular and go to neighborhoods or specific locations that have specific higher rates - then you are no longer treating the sample size as a whole.

Not a probability expert but good at math and did a year straight of statistics at HS.

Your CV example skews things, because of the way COVID transmits and the way you framed the "walk through the room".

But assuming that you come into the same % of the occupiers of the room and that's the yard stick - lets say 10% - then if you are in the one room and meet 10% (1 person in one example and 10 in the other example) ... statistically you have a 1 in 10 chance of meeting someone with Covid out of 10 people. = 10% .... You have a 0.7 chance of meeting someone with Covid each time you meet someone in the other room - by meeting 10 people in the other room you have a 7% chance.

Statistics is tough though and when you see things in black and white it sometimes just goes against the grain... the draft is a perfect example. Purely based on math you are more likely to add starters to your team by simply having more picks because of the historical data that is available. After the first handful of picks - the 'success' of the picks drops off markedly - and then you have positional variances too - like OL are statistically safer picks than say QB or DE etc.

Talk to some fans and they will tell you that you need impact players and they can only come from high up the draft and you shouldn't drop back. There's some merit to that thinking - but purely from statistics, more picks is better. So while you can win by trading up or staying put one year / based on one draft class - overall, history simple says if you acquire more picks you are more likely to find starters.

People commit murder. The number of murders per person tells the story. [/quote]

Exactly, and why your use of per capita is useless in this context.

There is over 7 billion people in the world and there is an average of 129 shark attacks each year. So every person has a 1 in 54,263,565 chance to be bit by a shark each year. But, when you are standing in the ocean your chances increase to 1 in 4,000,000. So when you are standing in a large city street where more crime exists vs a smaller town that has less crime but higher crime rate per person your chance of being a victim is much higher.

Pit's premise is that we should spread those numbers over entire states... That way he and his staff of crack statisticians can use some fancy math to prove that you have just a'good'a chance of dying in a cornfield.

Good to know you don't want to have a discussion, and just want to poke fun. Next question from you I'll know better.

As for shark attacks on land? Yeah you found the right level there.

Hey man. Not trying to offend, you did a great job spelling out your case with solid examples. Trying to predict future situations with statistics as a hard job by any standard. That's why the Browns have so many nerds on staff.

The bottom line with "fun with numbers" is that people use factual mathematical data in an effort to skew perception. They bait and switch the actual talking points and then say "numbers don't lie".

You and others offered data to back up the original argument. An argument that tries to prove you have the same chance of dying in a cornfield.

As far as what transpired here in this thread, my previous post is 100% accurate.

The "crack statisticians" was mostly you just caught in the crossfire of the b.s. I read here today... My apologies.

Honestly, I was kinda hoping that's the direction we were going. The whole "the numbers state your chances of a shark attack go up when you're in the water" could be a good transition into a good 'stats are for losers' conversation.

No worries, appreciate the clarification.

Taking a whole state - cities and rural areas, warts and all - treats each state the same. It would account for cornfields in Ohio in the same way it accounts for corn fields in Bama. That's not manipulation. But I was only commenting on the math, as I mentioned in one of the posts - there would be a lot more complexity to figuring out meaningful statistics associated with violent crime.

As for how Math and numbers can be manipulated - 'liars, damn liars and statisticians' - yes they can and do get abused. The best example I can think off the top of my head is Lyin Ted using numbers to "prove" climate change is no big deal and choosing a single point in history most favorable to his case as a datum point. If you Lyin Ted had constructed the same argument but used all the available data as his basis for analysis it would have shown something totally the reverse of what he was arguing.

I actually gave a source to the most murders by capita in counties too, not states. Even rural counties rate very high in murders per capita. Places where there are no cities and it involves smaller areas, not states. Look again.

This is what happens when people are looking for a political angle to place blame. They'll go out of their way to try and disprove that crime is a national problem rather than strictly an urban problem.

Even some of the most rural counties in our nation have a very high murder rate. Actually, some of the highest in the nation. Maybe if people would spend less time trying to point fingers and more time trying to resolve why we have the highest murder rate on the globe, everywhere in our nation, we could begin to start understanding and solving the problem.

But no, here we sit with a hand full of people showing the prime example of why nothing ever gets solved. Because we're to busy trying to blame one side for a problem that exists everywhere.

Excellent post. It seems we all have a very real problem seeing the forest through the trees -- and politics is always at the forefront of facing the real issues.

I agree. Go after crime where ever it is. Start with where the most people are being killed. That's a good starting point.

Help the most people first.

Let's start by looking at where violent crimes and murder are the highest per capita and try to find out why.

Yeah but that's racist.

When you mention where.. its racist

When you talk about why.. its racist

When you suggest solutions that might actually work.. its the most racist one can be on the topic.

Don't believe me? Look at years worth of responses to people who ask "What about Chicago?"

Unfortunately, that is the taboo subject.

What about Chicago? It's not taboo.

You have violent crime their. It's Black on Black violence and killings.

If you missed it Clem - who is way more educated and eloquent on this than I - has tackled this topic in detail a couple of times for those that want to learn and gain a better nuanced understanding.

But that doesn't fit your narrative. So instead of engaging Clem on the topic when he wrote - you ignore it and come with this passive aggressive post which essentially says "nothing"

Its not passive aggressive, its the truth. To act otherwise is patently dishonest. I took a long sabbatical from the political crap on DT because of the ridiculous amount of -ish posts like yours on virtually every topic.

So if during that time Clem entertained those conversations, great. But those conversations weren't being entertained before despite the willingness and desire of many who did want to talk about it. Instead what they were being met with was commentary trying to deflect or minimize the importance of such an issue, or just flat out being told you have no right to talk about it or have an opinion if you're white.

I'm glad Clem had those conversations and I hope they were fruitful in spite of my doubts. Clem has always brought a Wisdom few can match. But its ridiculous that the only time it was ok to actually talk about it was if a person of the 'correct' skin color was involved.

And don't presume what my 'narrative' is. If its anything its that its a largely futile conversation to have anyway until people come to accept that white liberals and black politicians have zero interest in improving the lives of people in those places. They derive too much power from exploiting those unfortunate enough to have to go through that hell.

Well a bunch of posters kept repeating things that you sort of alluded to - Clem wrote (at least twice) highlighting the faults of those posters comments and premise .... and there was **Crickets** ... I don't know that he got a single response from any of the posters he was addressing. In Clem's posts you can see and hear his exasperation that a tired old troupe still gets repeated even though over the years he has addressed it many times.

Damn. I don't remember any such post from Clem... I'm sorry I missed it. I also go through spells where I don't click-in for weeks or longer.

However, I DO agree with Devil, subject matter seems to be taboo. It's usually white people shaming other whites and telling them they have no right to speak about the subject -- that theme has been popular since the "privilege" movement.

Maybe some day we'll have meaningful convo, I'm doubtful.

There's a reason people say that when people say, "What about Chicago?"

Chicago isn't even rated in the top 10 murders per capita. It's nothing more than a dog whistle. It's something the right, and that left wing media you claim to hate so much concentrate on when it's not near the top of murder rates per capita.

As of 2019 here are the top 65 cities in America, if you ignore everything but the cities, in murder rates per capita. Chicago isn't even on the list.

Murder map: Deadliest U.S. cities

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/

So yeah, when you find a target to try and focus on, one which isn't even in the top 65 places where murder per capita is happening, people will certainly question the motive behind it.

When people try and ignore that per capita, murders are just as high and often times higher in rural counties as anywhere in our nation and people make every attempt to ignore it, people will question your motivation.

And when has anyone ever said on this board that we should "find out why" murder is happening at such rates? I haven't seen it.

The theme is usually "Let's have a war against it". You know, "The war on drugs", when more people are dying of overdoses than ever before. "The war on crime" which has failed miserably.

Our society is like the pharmaceutical industry. Curing or preventing something is never the focus. The focus always seems to look at a problem after it happens. To punish not rehabilitate.

So yes, when all you want to do is focus on Chicago and ignore everything else, people wonder why when that's not a solution to anything. No matter how many times it's proven that Chicago is not even close to the top city or location in our nation of murder per capita, some of you can't keep that name out of your mouths. And then you wonder why people question your motives.

Fair enough - maybe go look for it if you are interested. I'd badly communicate what should be a simple and compelling and factual based debate that Clem laid out. It has zero to do with Pit's counter in the last post above me.

Why do people feel the need to say black on black crime.
Crime is still crime no mater who commits it or who has it commited against them.
The Bottom line is are people making excuses for crime?

If we look at the democrats. The problem with the democrats is they live in a reality that denies evidence and tries to redefine truth.

The democrats try to excuse bad behavior on all levels along the way and there really isn't a legit way to do that except by denying evidence and trying to redefine truth.

So you never heard of Donald Trump then?

Deflection? Don't consider the real truth, and evidence or look to find solutions deflect and live in false realities excuse bad behavior while more people are going to continue to die,
and there are whole sections of American people who would be better served by giving them a hope to succeed,
instead
aw screw it, your side will pass the buck and find folks to blame.

Your problem is you can't see that you can exchange the word Democrats for the word Republican and arrive at the same conclusion.

Nearly 100 people were shot, 17 fatally, Friday night through Monday night in Mayor Lori Lightfoot’s (D) Chicago.

ABC 7 reported 98 people were shot in the time-frame of “Friday at 6 p.m. to 11:59 p.m. on Monday,” and 17 of those shooting victims succumbed to their wounds.

The Chicago Sun-Times listed the number of fatalities at 19.

ABC 7 pointed out that 87 people were shot during that same period over the Independence holiday in 2020.

The violence over the long weekend follows a Thursday on which 32 people were shot. Thursday’s wounded included a one-month-old girl who was shot in the head.

The violence and death has surged to such levels that Chicago Police Superintendent David Brown plans to speak at a press conference and take questions Tuesday afternoon.

On July 5, 2021, Brown tweeted: “Our officers continue to work tirelessly to keep our city safe. As of today, Chicago Police Department has recovered over 6,100 guns: a 26% increase from the same period last year. I commend our officers for their continued hard work during these challenging times for law enforcement.”

The Sun-Times observed there were over 1,892 shootings in Chicago January 1, 2021, through June 28, 2021, a 12 percent increase over the same time frame last year.

Over 330 people were killed in Chicago during the first six months of 2021.


https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021/07/...tfoots-chicago/

Ah, your sources are blowing that dog whistle again and the facts mean nothing to you. No surprise there.

JMHO, gas got real low because a barrel of oil went to negative numbers and covid (the flu Trump stated was under control and would be gone in Spring of 2020) kept drivers in their homes- supply and demand. It HAD to go up.

What do you mean by "a barrel of oil went to negative numbers"?

Due to the complex nature of the legal casino called "commodities", it's kind of hard to wrap your mind around. Basically, because of the pandemic, glut of oil on the market and fear of what was to come, the commodities market experienced one of the strangest things in the history of trading. The expiring May contracts of West Texas Intermediate crude on the New York Mercantile Exchange traded, and closed, in negative territory. This happened on April 20th of 2020.

Commodities are heavily leveraged, so in basic English, uncertainties had people that were trying to unload their May contracts met with an attitude of "you'd have to pay me to take them".

*I'm no expert on commodities, if I've stated something wrong here and somebody is better versed -- please correct me.

Thank you.

CNN, MSNBC primetime shows ignore breaking news of ex-Sen. Barbara Boxer being attacked, robbed in California
Liberal media continues to suppress news of violent crimes in America’s largest cities

By Brian Flood , Joseph A. Wulfsohn | Fox News



Former California senator Barbara Boxer mugged in Oakland, crime spree plagues Bay Area

San Francisco resident and former mayoral candidate Richie Greenberg blasts area for being lax on crime, rips Los Angeles for UBI plan

Former California Sen. Barbara Boxer was attacked and robbed of her cell phone Monday in Oakland, but anyone who relies on CNN or MSNBC’s primetime lineups for news was left in the dark about the stunning attack.

The liberal media has been criticized recently for downplaying or ignoring a spike in violent crimes in America’s largest cities. Boxer being robbed appears to be the latest example, as CNN and MSNBC both ignored the breaking news during primetime as details unfolded, according to a Grabien Media search of transcripts.

MAINSTREAM MEDIA CONTINUES TO FAIL US CITIES AMID CRIME SURGE: 'THEY REFUSE TO CALL OUT THE LIBERAL MAYORS'
Former Sen. Barbara Boxer said she was assaulted and robbed while in Oakland, Calif., on Monday, according to a Twitter post on her account.

Former Sen. Barbara Boxer said she was assaulted and robbed while in Oakland, Calif., on Monday, according to a Twitter post on her account. (The Associated Press)

Boxer, a Democrat from California, was in Oakland's Jack London Square neighborhood when someone pushed her in the back and took her phone, she tweeted in the late afternoon Monday.

"Tucker Carlson Tonight," "Hannity" and "The Ingraham Angle" all mentioned the breaking news that was ignored by CNN and MSNBC.

"Anderson Cooper 360," "Cuomo Prime Time," "Don Lemon Tonight," "All In with Chris Hayes," "The Rachel Maddow Show," "Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell" and "The 11th Hour with Brian Williams" all kept the breaking news from their viewers.

CNN and MSNBC did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

"The lack of national corporate media coverage of the spike in violent crimes does a disservice to people in cities who are the victims, and contributes to the downward spiral," Cornell Law School professor and media critic William A. Jacobson recently told Fox News. "That these cities almost entirely have progressive mayors suggests some of the lack of coverage is politically motivated."

In a statement, Boxer's office said she was "thankful that she was not seriously injured."

FORMER SEN. BARBARA BOXER ATTACKED, ROBBED IN CALIFORNIA

CNN’s "New Day" managed to cover the story on Tuesday morning.

Boxer, 80, served in the U.S. Senate from 1993 to 2017, when she was succeeded by Kamala Harris. Boxer also served for a decade in the House of Representatives.

The incident occurred in Oakland, where Democratic Mayor Libby Schaaf has held office since 2015.

"The news media are so leftist that they refuse to call out the liberal mayors of cities for spikes in violent crime," Media Research Center vice president Dan Gainor told Fox News.

The department's robbery section is investigating the incident. A $2,000 reward is being offered for information leading to an arrest.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-msnbc-barbara-boxer

Opps. These are all from 2+ days ago ....


https://www.facebook.com/cnn/videos/fmr-...57167209220004/

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/07/28/barbara-boxer-assault-sot-vpx-ebof.cnn

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/07/26/us/barbara-boxer-california-assault-theft/index.html&ved=2ahUKEwiiisH7uIryAhXjoXEKHYtNCNoQFjAEegQICxAC&usg=AOvVaw1CjGIAzSXoojRmD9PTPSXY&ampcf=1

https://mobile.twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/1419834539921268737


They really have you trained so we'll you parrot everything they say without ever thinking for for yourself don't they? No wonder Fox's legal defense in court was they are entertainment only and viewers shouldn't regard "facts" they present as being truthful.

I see you went through all that work to provide links to CNN... So, nothing from MSNBC then? I'll assume not since you didn't post anything.

That's just weird. You have 15 news shows and another 35 outlets to report that a US senator has been robbed and you say nothing.

What is the reasoning?

From the Fox article above:

CNN’s "New Day" managed to cover the story on Tuesday morning.

I can't be everywhere like the 60s 'Chicken man' to witness every news event like you and Portland...and I'm not a member of 'twitter' to use as a news source.

Every one of you liberals on this board use and ad-lib the same talking points from CNN, the NY Times, and the thousands of leftwing websites available, and you accuse others of not "thinking for yourself"? pftt

I accuse you of spamming the boards with articles - without any input or contribution or thought ... and the title of the last article was clearly incorrect or twisting the coverage. I did a google search in 30 seconds and got many hits for CNN.

I didn't search for MSNBC - I can't tell you if they did or didn't cover the story and if they have some dastardly plot to not cover a particular news story. Frankly I don't care. I'm quite sure Faux and Breitbart and many other right wing outlets don't cover many stories themselves. It's been mentioned on these boards before. What I do know is that the article posted carried a sensationalistic headline that was bunk. That's what I commented on. Thanks.

If they had covered the story more they would be saying that they only cover when a liberal is a victim and ignores when it happens to republicans. At this point they're reaching for any silly BS they can come up with to try and create a story that isn't there.

j/c:

Stay woke, folks. You're doing great out there.

As long as you're willing to admit that Republicans are no less guilty of cancel culture, that's fine.

?

Trump has targeted at least 21 companies with calls for boycotts, threats of taxes, and other ominous warnings — see the list

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-targets-companies-apple-nordstrom-google-2019-7

Trump decries 'cancel culture,' but does he participate in it? He's called for boycotts and punishment for critics

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli...ted/3451223001/

Anyone, everyone and everything that has said anything in opposition to trump has been boycotted, called names or targeted. To try and pretend that Republicans aren't just as guilty of it can only mean someone has decided to only look for it in one direction.

Have a Coke. No, wait a minute, the right is currently boycotting them.

Here's why Ted Cruz (and others) are talking about Coca-Cola

https://www.chron.com/politics/article/r...ll-16077481.php

Like most people, I don't read your BS links or believe anything you say.

Hiding from the truth isn't going to help you. You asked for proof then when given proof refuse to look at it. It's the best way to never find the truth and hold on to things that are not true.

Murica!

This one’s for you…

That dynamic bothers the hell out of me. "The information you provide is inconvenient to what my feelings are, so I won't read it."

I disagree with Super on a lot of things, obviously, but I gave his video with Alex Jones a chance.

I often disagree with - but wholeheartedly respect - Peen and I enjoyed reading his articles on Cuomo, Harris and other things.

I don't line up with the progressive ideals of OCD, but I enjoy reading the points contained in some of his articles.

I find FATE to be trollish at times, but I do like to trace the logic behind some of his trolling.

I don't always agree with everything people post, but I do like to see where people are coming from.

Admittedly, yes, some people have lost me when they talk about reptilian DNA in vaccines and whatnot, but it has become more and more apparent today that the fear of being wrong is much stronger than the will to find out the truth.

I still find out that I'm wrong about things day after day...

...just ask my wife.

Well said. It's a ongoing, conscious effort (for me at least), to look into some links that I know I'm going to disagree with. As you said, it's important to do so.

I guess the only part that really bothers me is that the requests to boycott all of these companies came straight from trump's own mouth. Yet they still claim the other party is the only one guilty of cancel culture.

In part I actually do agree with him. The democrats are guilty of trying to silence people with opposing views. They use boycotts and some media outlets to accomplish that.

The difference we have is that the Republicans are no less guilty of the exact same thing. Both are wrong but if you lack the ability to look at it and see it for what it is, then you are simply refusing to open your eyes to reality.

And for republicans who now base so much on their feelings and beliefs rather than facts to call the other side snowflakes? What an obvious act of hypocrisy. Once again both sides are guilty of the same thing but refuse to see their own side as being just as guilty.

I find you offensive for finding me offensive.

Happy Birthday!

Oh for sure. Also, for the record, I was talking about his refusal to view your links, not your refusal.

The day you start to compliment me is the day I’m really going to have to take a long look in the mirror.

Thanks man.

Both are guilty, but one is the hypocrite. Phenomenal point.

Typical,maybe you would be happier in that paradise Cuba?

And with that you earned a second! Congrats, it’s a first!!!

Hell, I'm offended by the mere existence of others with a different POV... I think it's just part of getting old.

Don't be ridiculous. We on the left and center would probably prefer the cuban commies to the maga fascists, but were are not about to abandon OUR America.

Lol. I think we get older and wonder "what are all these dolts still doing here?!?"

I'm getting older and keep thinking to myself, "One day the picture of the Congressional Leaders will have different people in it that it did 30 years ago."

Hopefully in my lifetime.

jc

No great place for this and doesn't deserve a new thread...

“Anything beyond this is Maddow’s opinion or her exaggeration of the facts," the judge wrote at the time.

I mean nice attempt at spin. But here's the facts:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/oan-loses-...st-dollar250000

MSNBC’s lawyers, meanwhile, argued Maddow’s remarks were “protected opinion based on disclosed facts,”

Meanwhile by direct comparison:

https://www.salon.com/2020/06/18/fox-new...port-the-facts/

Fox News lawyer tells judge that Tucker Carlson's audience doesn't expect him to report the facts
"It's not the front page of the New York Times," a network attorney says in court. "It's 'Tucker Carlson Tonight'"

Interesting that you mock the NYT - but Fox lawyers clearly referenced them as a gold standard of journalism compared to Faux News. And lets not forget OAN had to pay MSNBC's legal fees ... so whatever spin you want to try, the court already decided.

He spent some time in Cleveland, no?

Lol. the OAN reporter was paid by Sputnik, a Russian backed propaganda. Now who’s the commie?

Yes, is the answer.



*Now: Squire, Patton, Boggs, LLC.


I had no idea he was a black guy, unbeknownst to him, manipulated for white supremacy all this time.

Huh.

Today! The establishment media, pushing the narrative,

All repbulicans are voting against the right to vote bill. Federal right to vote bill.

In Reality! It is, All republicans voting against the Federal Right To Cheat in Voting if you are a democrat bill.

The Democrats, digging in on a bill to secure the ways they cheat, and manufacture falsehoods to be counted, Federally! Nationalizing, so that
they can secure
there will not be an accurate free and fair trusted election in the USA anytime going forward.

It's what they do.

Your cluelessness is amazing.

Yet predictable.

Voting is not a difficult as they want us to believe it is rather easy.

Polls open at a certain time. They close at a certain time. Make sure you free your schedule to make time to vote between those two times. Then an amazing thing happens if I show my ID they give me a ballot and I vote.

If I am going to be out of town on the day of the election I go to a courthouse and show my ID, request and absentee ballot, fill it out, and send it in.

Early voting is cheating, motor voting is cheating, and handing out mail in ballots like candy at a parade is cheating.

Very very very simple.

Mine is even simpler.
My ballot comes in the mail. Along with it comes a pamphlet that lays out the candidates platforms and the intricacies of the different ballot measures. I sit at my dining room table and read through the literature. Do a little research. Then fill out my ballot. I then sign it, place it in its envelope, and mail it.
So easy. Everyone should try it.

But why do that when I can simply choose a candidate based on the fact they are a Republican or a Democrat? Isn't that all the information I need?

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT

This is what happens when you eat a lot of paint chips during childhood.

Specifically lead paint chips.

The crazy thing is people see a broken system and become even more resolved to do the above! But let's be honest, your "sarcastic" comment is a basic truth that points directly to laziness. Not that any politicians make it convenient to discuss the real issues... their "advanced analytics tell them where to toe the party line and where to double-talk (read: lie).

While I do think that's true to a large extent I think one would have to admit there are different factions of each party. There are extremists in both instances.

I'll give you an example where I live but it applies widely.

I have lived in Tennessee for about 10 years now. Our former governor was Bill Haslam. Yes, Jimmy Haslam's brother. He was a very common sense, what most now, those who are extreme in the Republican party would call a RINO.

He helped pass legislation that provided two years of tuition free community college to every person who graduated high school in Tennessee with a minimum GPA. He did his best to expand medicare/medicaid but the hard right in the legislature blocked it.

I never agree with either party in total with their platforms and ideas. But he was one Republican I supported as my states governor. We now have governor Lee who I simply couldn't support.

For some people it's not as cut and dry as party. And as we have seen, those are the very people who often times decide the elections in swing states.

Yeah, I would also add in a heavy dose of fear, as well. If you get your constituents to fear a villain, then they will spend less time wondering what it exactly is that you're doing.

That is a very cheap shot by the Dems and lefty Media.

He grew up in South Central LA with not a lot of money. The Dems and media hate him because he is a Conservative and doesn't thinkhe is a victim.

He is probably the most advertised candidate in the recall. Keep it up Larry, your commercials are helping Newsom.

Not that I particularly like Newsom, he is too far left for my liking, but a recall is the only chance that Republicans have to take the governors office.

Good riddance, rino!


Report: Democrats Poised To End Adam Kinzinger’s District And House Career

By Rusty Weiss
August 25, 2021 at 12:08pm



Politico is reporting that Democrats in Illinois are poised to introduce a new congressional map that could gut the district of anti-Trump Republican Adam Kinzinger, effectively ending his House career.

Democrats in the state have total control over redistricting, and the outlet reports they are alternately seeking to “gut” or “eliminate” Kinzinger’s district.

“Illinois lawmakers are on the verge of rolling out a new congressional map that will very likely gut Kinzinger’s exurban Chicago seat,” they write.

The move would leave the Republican Representative “with just a few bleak options for remaining in office next year.”

Politico notes that former President Donald Trump would love to be the one who takes him out, but it just might end up being the Democrats Kinzinger has been playing footsie with that actually make it happen.


https://thepoliticalinsider.com/report-d...5TrrcSNRUleWM2o

Redistricting is one of the fundamental symptoms of today's broken political system no matter which party is doing it.

Republicans gerrymandering against other Republicans. What a joke.

RINO is what you extremists call any Republican with common sense these days. It's how you're destroying your own party. You stuck with Trump in 2020 and it cost you both The White House and the senate. Keep up the good work.

Faction of Republicans are canceling Kinzinger because he doesn't agree with them. Snowflakes.

Just like they canceled Liz Cheney.

"Democrats in the state have total control over redistricting, and the outlet reports they are alternately seeking to “gut” or “eliminate” Kinzinger’s district."

Since you think he's a RINO and said good riddance to him, it seems you've finally found something you agree with Democrats about! Miracles really do happen!

I can't understand this world or democrat thinking. Being a democrat must be like being a free bird and every day, getting a fresh start and flying across vast expanses to willingly climb into a tiny bird cage in a dark room, without bird food or water in there either.

To willingly accept the lies the establishment tells you day after day, and close off your mind to any thought or appreciation of beauty, or humor, or sense of well being and all the great things in life
To climb each day anew into the trap of closed off existence where you are told what to think,
and having no understanding of the value of anything, because they have no love. Because God is love, and they reject God. They develop false appreciations for things like terrible music, or shows about dancing, dancing for no reason accept to look funny I guess,
and terrible musicians also. Because they are blind, being blind they cannot see the truth right in front of them.

What is the color of the sky in a world that celebrates only its own. Built on attempts to satisfy it's most base lusts. How can the democrat become free if someone doesn't open their eyes? They willingly fly into the prison of idealogy new every day after cruising right past freedom in route there.

Oh throw, you are so misinformed pal. Being a dem is no different than being a republican. You fight for what you believe in, you try to keep your side under the same big tent even though factions disagree with each other, and you spin every tiny thing the opposition does into a negative against them...

But there is one big difference, dems (progressives) mostly work to improve the lives of the average man. Republicans, not so much.

QFT.

You laugh but can't counter because you know it's true.

He forgets who fought for civil rights, increasing the minimum wage and assorted other things. He forgets who is fighting for our environment, expanding medicare to include eye care and dental and lowering the age for qualifying. Perspective is often lost these days. Of course none of that has anything to do with working to improve the lives of the average man. Most of them don't even know what "average man" means anymore.

They are perfectly fine with those at the bottom staying at the bottom or who would cook their food and serve them? Who would wash their cars? Heaven forbid they spend another dollar for a Big Mac!

That is really stretching it…

Epi pen and ivermectin?????

Please, these are just the left wing equivalent of James O’keefe and project Veritas.

This is hilarious if anybody would actually listen to the song.
I stumbled upon a song that seems to describe 'some' democrats, some of the ones that aren't aware of their inherent evils, some of the ones who think they mean well.
I don't know where it's from but the song is
"I think I'm a bunny" by. Todd Mchatten.

It's not vulgar, it's a child's song, actually the child is adamant the monster is not a bunny, just like the clueless democrats think they are not monsters.
" I think I'm a bunny, I think I'm a bunny, I think I'm a bunny."
"You're a monster!"

What a bizarre reality you must live in...

Demoncrats

Repungantcans.

Bidens' latest speech. the gist.

Just do what Biden says, it's safe because he says so.
Just do what he says, don't make him show his true colors and have him force you like they do in China and Russia.

His speech boiled down to this. We are in a national health crisis. Since so many people are too stupid to do the patriotic thing and get vaccinated in order to protect people from being hospitalized and dying, we're going to impose everything within our legal power to make that happen. We are trying to save the life of Americans despite your efforts to the contrary.

If not, stay in your basement.

Good! The Democrat party could use more common sense people like Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.) and Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) instead of progressive socialist wackos like AOC and other members of the so-called squad.



Sen. Joe Manchin Won't Vote for $3.5T Bill: 'What's the Urgency?'


By Eric Mack and Sandy Fitzgerald

Sunday, 12 September 2021



Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., is calling for a "pause" on the Democrats' $3.5 trillion spending bill, believing the total amount is just too hard of a sell to the American people and saying Senate Majority Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., will not have his vote at that amount.

"He will not have my vote on 3.5 [trillion dollars]," Manchin told CNN's "State of the Union." "Chuck knows that. We've talked about this.

"We already put out $5.4 trillion and tried to help Americans in every way we possibly can. A lot of the help we put out there is still there and is going to run until clear of next year 2022.

"What's the urgency? What's the urgency we have? It's not the same urgency we had with the American Rescue Plan. We got that out the door quickly, about $2 trillion. On top of that, with the C.A.R.E.S package, leading up to that.

"There's still an awful lot of people you need to help, but you have 11 million jobs that aren't filled right now. Something is not matching up. Don't you think we ought to hit the pause and find out?"

Manchin told NBC's "Meet the Press" he is a "hard no" at $3.5 trillion and said he will not be the "lone vote" against it.

"I've said if I can't go home and explain it, I'm not going to vote for it," Manchin told host Chuck Todd.

Manchin's biggest sticking point on adding another $3.5 trillion in spending is the unspent money from the coronavirus relief packages from the past 18 months.

"There's $60 billion that's not out the door yet," Manchin told CNN host Dana Bash. "Only thing I'm saying is why the urgency to spend another $300 billion toward that when you don't have $60 billion that went out?

"Why are we not able to get into that, to make sure that the administration is able to disperse the money to get it to where it needs to help."

Pressed on what his number for the budget would be, Manchin did suggest it is fluid.

"My ceiling is this: The need of the American people, for us to basically take into consideration inflation," Manchin said. "No one is concerned about the debt. Our debt as of Friday was $28.75 trillion."

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/joe-man...br=010102mbhupq

There is no such thing

Since you didn't care when trump was dishing out a trillion to the rich, why are you now so concerned somebody might spend it on those who aren't?

Spending only bothers you depending on who is doing the spending because you never whined about it the entire time trump was in office. You're not that hard to see through.

Get to know Manchin...

What I don’t like about the proposed 3.5 trillion dollar package is that it is a frame work, and it lacks specific line item spending.

Nothing like having a blank check, only to be filled in later.

The Democrats wil get skewered once they fill in the blanks with their Bernie.priorities…

I agree.

It's like needing to buy a new recliner but you take $30,000 with you to go shopping.

You end up buying a new $1000 recliner, along with $29,000 worth of other things.

Your recliner costs $1000.
Is it a wedding recliner?

More fraud...



WATCH – California Recall: Polling Center Tells Some Republicans They ‘Already Voted’

Paul Bois

13 Sep 2021


Some self-identified Republicans claim they arrived at their polling center to cast their ballots in the California recall election only to be told they had “already voted.”

“At El Camino Real Charter High School in Woodland Hills, some voters say they were told the computers showed them as already having voted, even though they had not,” reported KTLA.

Estelle Bender, 88, said poll workers informed her she and several friends of hers had already voted. She also allegedly witness another man arguing with a poll worker over the same issue.

“What happened today and how shocked are you?” a reporter asked Bender.

“Very. I went to El Camino High School to vote. Got there at 10:30. Gave her this [ballot] and she scanned and said ‘you voted,’ and I said, ‘no, I haven’t,” Bender told KTLA.

California Gubernatorial Recall Election information guides are placed inside the Monterey County Elections office in Salinas, Calif., on Thursday, Aug. 12, 2021. ( David Rodriguez/The Salinas Californian via Imagn Content Services)

“She said this has been happening all morning,” Bender further alleged. “The man next to me was arguing the same thing,”

Bender filled out a provisional ballot and left feeling “really angry.”

“I saw two women walking toward me as I left and I said, ‘don’t be surprised if they tell you’ve already voted, and she said, ‘They’ve already done that. If I voted, how did I vote?”

According to Bender, the people she knew affected by the issue were “self-identified Republicans,” which gave her cause for suspicion.

“I asked the couple of young women that I talked to and I said, ‘Are you by any chance Republicans?’ And she said ‘yes’ and I said, ‘So am I,'” asserted Bender.

Watch below:



The Los Angeles County Registrar-Recorder’s office said equipment was “replaced” at the polling center and that provisional ballots are a “failsafe option” for these kinds of glitches.”

“The voters who experienced this issue were offered and provided provisional ballots – the failsafe option to ensure no one has turned away from voting,” the statement said.

“Provisional ballots are regular ballots and once the eligibility of the voter is verified, they are processed and counted. After troubleshooting the issue, the equipment at the locations was replaced and voting continued.”

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/...-already-voted/

LMAO sore losers looking for excuses BEFORE the election. Donny really did a number on y'all.

Where there is smoke there is a fire.

Yet there was FIRE everywhere for 4 years that you not only ignored but encouraged without so much as a grumble...

Republicans trying to vote twice. It's like the 2020 election all over again.

You have to sign the ballot envelope when you turn it in. If you do not turn it in personally, there is another signature for you and the designated returner.

There is a barcode for tracking purposes.

You can sign up to a county website that tells you your ballot has been received and counted. If there is a question, they can pull the ballot and envelope.

I guess you could show up and try to vote twice, but if you have voted, it would be in the system.

My vote has been recorded.

Oh, my.
You used facts in your post.

Those things are useless here.

no way in hell would the Dems let Elder win. Even though they'll probably win without cheating but just to be safe they'll cheat. At least they will get the Govt they deserve.

Still trying to paint that false narrative nobody yet has proven. Some of ya'll are so funny!

Every damn time a GOPer accuses a dem of cheating it just means they are actively cheating, or they were trying to cheat but failed. Trump taught them that trick.

Elder is a joke. The whole recall is a partisan hitjob and y'all in here like "the government they deserve". If GOPers don't like living in a free society like Cali, they should dig up one of those bright red maps they are so proud of and move to BFE with the rest of the Clampetts.

Every commercial for Elder is a thousand votes for Newsom.

Elder is playing to the GOP base and has motivated the democrats.

He is not a serious candidate and a Trump wannabe.

That dog does not hunt in California..

Arnold has been mute or lukewarm on the recall…

I dunno if it was on here, but a CA GOP person called Elder "the best thing to happen to Newsom since hair gel". It's hilarious because it's true.

Elder becoming the face of the recall galvanized the liberal majority in CA. Now the recall doesn't have a prayer.

Also, Newsom is basically a walking caricature. He's what Republicans say every Democrat is like. An Elder governorship sounds scary on the surface, but he wouldn't have been able to actually get anything done.

Not the liberal majority, Elder managed to galvanize the moderates.

I agree that Newsom is his own worst caricature… A Flaming liberal rich snooty San Francisco Democrat. A male version of Nancy Pelosi.

Still better than a Trump wannabe.

Sucks that those are the choices.

Out of curiosity, since I don't have any pulse on California stuff, how do you feel a Kinzinger-esque Republican would have fared in the recall?

I think one would have to consider what Republicans are looking for. In this case, there are actually 46 candidates who qualify to vote for with which voters can choose other than Newsom. I'm pretty sure at least one of them is a moderate Republican. But it's Elder who leads all those candidates in the polls outside of Newsom by a wide margin. So I think the fact there are 46 candidates running in opposition to Newsom and it's a "Trump like" candidate that leads by a wide margin answers your question. But I could be wrong.

It's a pretty whacked out way to run a recall election. You see, if the majority votes for a recall, then which ever of these other 46 candidates gets the most votes wins. They could only receive 10% of the vote and still be the next governor.

The way it works is voters are asked, Should Newsom be removed from office, yes or no, and who should replace him? If a majority votes yes on Newsom’s removal, the candidate who gets the most votes on the second question would become governor for the final year of Newsom’s term.

EXPLAINER: If Newsom recall fails, no winning candidate

https://apnews.com/article/business-elec...5658c81b35034c0

I agree with you that it's significant that Elder has emerged as the GOP front-runner (if it gets to that). IMO, though... that only brings up more questions than it answers.

And I agree with you that the recall process in CA doesn't really hold up to any sort of scrutiny. But then how do you reconcile that argument with Newsom telling his voters to vote 'no' on the recall AND THEN NOT PUT DOWN AN ANSWER TO THE SECOND QUESTION? With Democrats being the majority that they are in CA, and 'their guy' telling them to not vote if the recall goes through, how would they have a leg to stand on if a new governor is selected with such a small % of the vote?

I never accused Newsom of being a deep thinker. Or even a good governor.

Thanks. I had honestly very little understanding of the process. That kind of speaks to some speculation I had about the shift in Republican ideology on a grand scale. It seems like a Catch-22 in some cases where you can only get the party nomination by being Trump-affiliated, but then you can't win the general election for those same reasons.

I know California is not representative of the country as a whole, but I could see that being an issue for the Republicans on a grander scale in areas where there are more moderate or independent voters.

Actually I think the political division within our nation makes every state comparable in some ways. It's an all or nothing proposition.

Each party seems to be catering more and more to the extreme wings of their party. It leaves no place to turn for people that believe that moderation, negotiation and finding some middle ground is the best way for our nation to move forward. I find it quite sad.

It will be interesting to follow. About a week ago a dem won in a red area in NH for a state seat in a special election.

NH Dems Surprise Victory in Bedford — Special Election Fluke or 2022 Omen?
Posted to Politics September 07, 2021 by Michael Graham

New Hampshire Democrats scored a much-needed upset win in the one-time GOP stronghold of Bedford, flipping a state House seat from red to blue in a special election Tuesday.

Former Bedford Town Councilor Catherine Rombeau defeated Republican former state Rep. Linda Rea Camarota in the race to fill a seat left vacant by the death of Republican Rep. David Danielson.

While the race was extremely close — 2,325 to 2,288 — Bedford has traditionally been a Republican-leaning community where Democrats shouldn’t be competitive. Last fall, Danielson received 6,890 votes and won a House seat, while Rombeau failed to make the cut with 5,488 votes. Only one Democrat, Rep. Sue Mullen, won a House seat in Bedford.....

GOP expectations were even higher in a special election when low turnout tends to help Republicans, and during a time when the Democratic Party’s poll numbers are low. President Joe Biden is underwater by 11 percent among New Hampshire voters.

And yet Rombeau got the win.....

While no Granite State Republicans were willing to talk on the record, off the record they were seething. If Republicans can’t win GOP towns like Bedford, their already razor-thin majority (208-187) could be at risk.

“It’s inexcusable,” one senior GOP source told NHJournal. “It looks like we got outworked–again. I’m really pissed.”

Another insider who worked on behalf of Camarota said Republicans “have no idea what Democrats are doing to drive this turnout.”....

Former NH Democratic Party chair Kathy Sullivan thinks she knows what happened.

“Is this 1st time in history that Bedford has had 2 Dem state reps? Rejection of extremist NHGOP by suburban voters,” she tweeted.

Full article:
https://nhjournal.com/is-nh-dems-surprise-victory-in-bedford-a-special-election-fluke-or-2022-omen/

There are a few of them, including a former San Diego Mayor Kevin Falconer who is polling at 3 percent.

It takes a lot of money to run in the State, and Elder has it. The only other candidate that has advertised is a person named John Cox, who lost to Newsom in the last election.

The voter information pamphlet for the 46 candidates was surreal. Lots of crazies running.

Republicans have drifted to Elder and funded him. He makes no sense and is just an angry person spewing a word salad that may be entertaining for a radio show, but has no place in governors office.

Newsome was a very popular Lt. Governor. And other than issues with covid and the red meat right haters, as far as I know he's been a popular Governor. This whole recall was triggered by the nutjob right that represents Cali GOPers in the post Trump era. You would be hard pressed to find a moderate republican leading the charge on this one.

But here we are watching yet another partisan GOPer attack on state level politics without a bit of shame. The left just sits and watches it all unfold and said very little UNTIL a Trumpian candidate became the primary opponent. Now the left is scrambling to get out the vote and coming together... GOPers will most likely lose this recall outright, but they still get to embarrass Newsome AND distract from January 6th and other unresolved Trumpian crimes.

I don't know enough about Newsom to have said anything in either direction. California politics has never really been a something I've concerned myself with and doesn't really rate on my priority list. Thus my comment.

Lol, fair enough. I'll just leave that comment there, but I don't expect you to argue for him.

Thanks for sharing. How could they have no idea??? Democrats are simply not cannibalizing themselves, or at least not doing it to the same level as Republicans are right now.

The center/moderate right and independents are driving these sorts of results. The right has lost their votes due to the Trumpian shift in the party, but GOPers seem to be blind to this and are doubling down...
You get a Trump lite, you get a Trumkp lite, every district gets a Trump lite!... Good luck witth that one Trump fans.

And leaders like Desantis and Abbott are all the proof most "normal Americans" (see what I did there ) to know the inmates are running the asylum.

Sure thing.

It's interesting, GOP candidates can't win most of their primaries without the Trump brand of abrasive politics, but at the same time are driving away independents and moderate republicans (RINOS!) in droves. Particularly in the suburbs.

I'd assume they are counting on the redrawing of district maps and more restrictive voting laws to help overcome a losing strategy.

Well, I supposed that worked for Jim Jordan.

Ultimately they are looking for the Trumpian Fascism to become acceptable to the masses... Then like all good authoritarian governments, lackey and boot lickers will get to serve the oligarchs with access to the "chosen one".

Of course they now always employ the Trump strategy to try and rile their base. If they win the election is fair. If they loses it "was rigged". Sort of like the old joke, "Heads I win tails you lose".

They've already incited one insurrection that way so it appears that's their goal. If they can't win an election they will eventually just attempt to overthrow the government. I mean it's the American way, right?

Welp, Trump was a Democrat...and that's what Democrats do..." abrasive politics"! See Chucky Schumer, Dick Durbin, and Hillary Clinton (the queen of abrasive)

Holy smokes, what a pivot!

That's some Threat Level Midnight stuff right there!

trump was never anything but a snake oil salesman. A self serving shapeshifter. You fell for him becoming a ‘Republican’. The sane among us see him for his narcissistic slimy self. donny is no more a Republican than he is a democrat, or a libertarian or a member of the Whig party. He is all about him. Whatever he can do, whatever shape he has to take, to shake you down, he’ll do. A grifter of the lowest order.

I present you, one, Dwigt.

Speaking in tongues now?

I think he men’s Daryl and his brother Daryl from Bob Newhart.

It is 67/33 and called 45 minutes after the polls closed..

Newsom stays.

No more Elder commercials… is my reward…

Hopefully the margin is so huge they won't be able use the "It was rigged" defense.

The Fight is to stop the genocide.

If trump thought he could get votes from immigrants.

He would stand at the border and wave them across.

He is the worst of what a human can be.

"The Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Mark Milley took steps to interrupt any order Trump might give for military action because he thought the ex-President had deteriorated mentally after January 6.

Steps were taken to protect the nuclear codes from trump.

Keep up.

He does get votes from immigrants fleeing communism in Cuba. Searching for freedom.
So much of, anything in American society from the extablishment, including hatred of Trump can be simplified down into one clear message.
One Clear message, that message.
"White People Submit!"

Just recognize it.

Damn, if this isn't straight from the 'Tucker Sucker's' handbook.

I'm shipping a wheel of Camembert cheese to your house. It will pair quite nicely with your 'White whine.'

What is some of the good Newsome has done for California?

Please don't say he fixed Homeless, Crime. Schools and people leaving in droves.

Maybe you should ask the overwhelming number of Californians who felt he should remain governor. Maybe you should also ask them the harm they think Larry Elder would have done.

I'm asking Charger. He happens to be from California, but thanks for jumping in Pit.I can never get enough of your BS.

Look, I am no Newsom fan. You are asking the wrong person.

Read this page, it is all there. But I will reiterate.

I called him a "Flaming liberal rich snooty San Francisco Democrat. A male version of Nancy Pelosi."

I voted for No on the recall. It was an obvious attempt of the Republican party to install their candidate, and in the beginning there was essentially no Republican that came to the forefront. It was anyone but Newsom, with no real message as to why it was so imperative to recall him.

When Elder entered the race, and the R's found their man. In this case a Trump wannabe, no minimum wage, and a history of saying nasty things on his radio show.

Elder motivated anyone that was not into the flame throwing Republican BS to vote. And they did. The election results were predictable. It was "Elder Abuse"

I also stated that "every Elder commercial was another thousand votes for Newsom". and "that dog does not hunt in California".

You asked if he did anything for California. There is some stuff that he has done that I don't like. It is not what he did, but what he did not do that mattered to me. Although, Newsom is too liberal for my liking, he did not do anything that deserved being recalled.

I voted to recall Gray Davis, because he was an idiot that got hoodwinked by the electric companies and cost us real money.

It is hard to find, but Elder received 47 percent of the vote for replacement. No one else was above 10 percent.

In hindsight, when Republicans didn't endorse any candidate for the recall might've been the real indicator that they didn't even think this was going anywhere.

I feel sorry for you that you don't understand how message boards work.

For future reference please remember that when you post, anyone can reply. It may help you keep your composure so you don't feel the need to lash out that way.
And if you were paying attention it seems Chargers reply was quite similar to my answer. It wasn't so much what Newsom did as what they were afraid Elder would do.

You're welcome.

Far-Left Democrats Force Funds for Israel’s Iron Dome Out of Funding Bill

WASHINGTON, DC - MARCH 13: Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) (R) and Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-MN) attend a news conference where House and Senate Democrats introduced the Equality Act of 2019 which would ban discrimination against lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people, on March 13, 2019 in Washington, DC. (Photo by …

Jacob Bliss

21 Sep 2021


The far-left Democrats forced out provisions to fund Israel’s Iron Dome from the continuing resolution (CR) that would keep the government funded and raise the debt ceiling, according to reports.

According to Army Technology, “Iron Dome provides defence[sic] against short-range missiles and rockets which pose a threat to the civilian population,” such as those fired from Gaza earlier this year.


Iron Dome defense system battery, designed to intercept and destroy incoming short-range rockets and artillery shells, in the Hula Valley in northern Israel near the border with Lebanon. (JALAA MAREY/AFP via Getty Images).

Due to there not being enough votes to pass the CR as a result of pushback from far-left Democrats, a Politico reporter claimed that House Democrats were forced to remove the Iron Dome provisions to pass the measure.

Before the provisions were taken out, reports confirmed that far-left Democrats told the Democrat leadership they would not vote for the bill if it included the $1 billion funding for the Iron Dome, which caused the Rules Committee to go into recess.

The CR has been revised with the Iron Dome provision taken out.

The far-left members leading this effort have been Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), Ilhan Omar (D-MN), and Rashida Tlaib (D-MI). House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) cannot have any opposition in her party if she hopes to pass anything due to her thin majority in the House.
WASHINGTON, DC - SEPTEMBER 21: Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) attends a news conference on the Protecting Our Democracy Act, at the U.S. Capitol on September 21, 2021 in Washington, DC. The legislation aims to prevent presidential abuses of power, restore checks and balances and strengthen congressional powers against the executive branch. (Photo by Kevin Dietsch/Getty Images)

Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) attends a news conference. (Kevin Dietsch/Getty Images).

Pelosi has already been facing opposition from the Republicans, who have said they will not vote from the CR due to the provision to raise the debt ceiling in the bill.

Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-WA), the head of the far-left Congressional Progressive Caucus, will reportedly meet with Pelosi on Tuesday.
WASHINGTON, DC - JUNE 17: Reps. Ilhan Omar (D-MI) and Pramila Jayapal (D-WA) listen as Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) holds a bill enrollment signing ceremony for the Juneteenth National Independence Day Act on June 17, 2021 on Capitol Hill in Washington, DC. Juneteenth, celebrated on June 19th, commemorates the of the end of slavery in the United States and will be celebrated as a national holiday. (Photo by Joshua Roberts/Getty Images)

Reps. Ilhan Omar (D-MI) and Pramila Jayapal (D-WA). (Joshua Roberts/Getty Images).

There was funding in the bill to replace the missiles used from the Iron Done in May from the Hamas attack on the Jewish state. Bloomberg reported the Defense Department asked in a classified supplemental request of $1 billion.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/...f-funding-bill/

So now the Jews are the bad guys.

Just the current corrupt Israeli government.

Over Three-quarters of U.S. Jews Voted for Biden in Election, Poll Finds

https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium...finds-1.9288692

This is as far as I got, because I have to make sure I got this right....

Funding intended for another country's defense was forced out of a bill that's supposed to address our debt ceiling.... and we have a problem with that?

Israel could always stop paying for the majority of their kids college education and their national healthcare program and fund it themselves.

But we all know how that works. Personal responsibility and accountability only applies to Americans.

I guess at the end of the day I really just want everyone to be aware of the irony in paying for another country's defense system in the same bill that's intended to prevent us from defaulting on our debt by arbitrarily increasing the amount we can debt-spend.

In the end it won't make any difference. McConnell will do anything and everything to prevent the debt ceiling from raising. His intention will be to shut down the government causing a financial disaster only to try to blame that on the democrats. If needed I expect him to use the filibuster.

McConnell has a little more sense than that. He's doing this to extract as many political concessions from Democrats as possible. In terms of political chess, he's down on pieces and needs to maximize every little bit of leverage he has.

We'll see. It seems to me that "owning the Dems" is something they care more about than America at this point.

I doubt it will last long but I still expect he will most likely follow through for the short term.

I disagree. I think McConnell wants the debt ceiling raised. But he wants it raised by the Democrats alone so that he could use it as a political weapon.

No doubt. Jews have been a solid voting block for the Dems for many years. Are you just discovering this? Here is another tid bit you might not know. Voters of African decent have been a solid block for the Dems for many years.

I guess I don't understand your point.

It seems you tend to think you know more about what's going on in Israel and make stupid ass claims like this because you know more about it than Jewish voters. You obviously can't comprehend how to separate the Israeli people from the Israeli government.

I didn't actually think you wouldn't be able to comprehend the point I was making but here I am having to explain it to you.

On top of that, I think I get perplexed sometimes that people (especially on the right) are upset about the level of spending - which I actually think is understandable - but then also get upset that we're pulling funding for something that is external.

To another point, I think Rafael is the chief contractor behind the Iron Dome. They are as money-grubbing and corrupt a company as I have ever seen. I'd have to go find it, but I remember seeing something about how extremely exorbitant their profit margins were.

Every time a GOPer loses, the dem spends a year or two cleaning up the mess. GMAB

They never let facts get in their way......

US recorded more than 1.6 million southern border arrests last year, highest on record

https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/22/politics/us-border-patrol-record-arrests-2020/index.html

The previous record was 1.64 million border arrests in 2000, according to available southern border data dating back to 1960.

Thanks Joe! Trump didn't even rank. All talk and no action. The claim is Trump was tough on the border. The numbers show Joe and even Clinton were tougher.

So say I bought a pair of Micheal Jordan brand shoes, and had em, for 13 years, had to do some shady stuff to get them in the first place, in the uh, you know, kept nice, never worn, because they have value.

So now! The Democrats want to make a law, and say, uhh, you bought those shoes for 100 dollars 13 years ago, but now they are worth 900 dollars.
So, you made 800 dollars in value, and you owe the government 175 dollars or we're going to throw you in jail, tax cheat!
But then you'll say,
I didn't sell the shoes, what gives!!!

I don't have 175 dollars just waiting to give the government!
they'll say, no no, we made a law, now you owe us money!

That's the democrats for ya.

Interesting story. I had a pair of the original Jordans. The black and red. I also had a job when I was in high school - well, in the summers. Worked at a rental company - tool, equipment rentals.

They had spray paint. I wore my old basketball shoes. I then painted them with spray paint. Went to a basketball camp at Ohio University. Was wearing my REAL basketball shoes, sprained my ankle, bad. (to this day, I can snap my.........I forget what it's called. A tendon on the outside of your ankle)

Regardless, after icing my ankle day, and going to the OU trainer the next day, wearing my home made jordans, sitting in the training room, a college player noticed my spray painted shoes. "man, nice kicks, where'd you get them?" Uh, just did them myself.

Turns out he was Alonso Highsmiths cousin.

Where do you dream up these things?

I don't know what you mean. Please clarify.

After rereading your post I took it totally out of context. My mistake.

Not typically a fan of those attack adds. Normally they are heavy on insinuation and empty of facts.

Manchin having the position as chairman regulating coal, while earning that much income and having those ties to coal is absurd.

He's definitely an example of an opportunistic, career politician. I think he's rather enjoying his newfound influence.

I'm with you on the attack ads though. I'm so freaking tired of them. They're just designed to overcome intelligence by appealing to primal instincts.

That was trump’s entire platform… “overcoming intelligence by appealing to primal instincts.”

I disagree...

...with your use of the word "was," because it still is.

I love watching Katie Porter work.

She has a way to present the absurdity of politics and what's worst in our system - and make it look so simple, obvious and wrong.

She is very good. I hope she continues to blaze a trail.

I remember when people here thought (or still think if you are OCD) The Lincoln Project was a legitimate organization.

Lincoln Project Claims Credit for Racial Hoax at Youngkin Event
https://news.yahoo.com/lincoln-project-claims-credit-racial-210238348.html

Lincoln Project Says It Planted White Supremacist Impersonators At Event For Virginia Republican Candidate
https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewal...ia-republican-candidate/?sh=74d1259a56af

This admission is only after they got caught doing it. And it's funny how people fall for stuff like this over and over and over again.

So you are saying there are even more Republican lies that people are falling for. Only difference is that you like those other lies.

If you say so!

They are legit. Legit republicans eating other republicans and deservedly so... what's not to love?

But since you are feeling butt sore and drug me into this, here is their side of the story and it explains very reasonable activism. This is not the first time protesters have pointed out the bad of their opposition with visuals mimicking just how bad they are:


AND shame on you for supporting/ignoring the fascist bigotry they are obviously bashing. smh

Yes, I saw their excuse yesterday. The one where they had to come out and claim responsibility because most intelligent individuals saw the fraud instantly and they manufactured their reasoning. Any reasonable person knew what was going on.

Yes....a totally legit organization. I hope you didn't give them too much of your money.

Money? Who said anything about money? They are still republicans (conservatives), just like you. And if you are suggesting intelligence exists on your side of the isle, please produce receipts because I just don't believe that is true. Could agree to various levels of stupidity, but I've yet to recognize any true intelligence over there.

If Biden wanted anything right for this Country he would Embrace Donald Trump.

As it is, there is literally nothing Biden could do that won't disentigrate the US. He is terrible for office.

President ThrowLong
He could unite us all, right?
Garbledegooker

Rich centrist Dem === Republican-lite. Sickening lies.

Its been mentioned he might switch to Republicans. His IQ must have taken a big jump.

Now it's fixed.
You're welcome.

How about leaving my posts alone. I don't screw with the crap you spew on here.

Absolute idiocy.

Can't make this stuff up.

1. Candidate is a puppet and a mouthpiece for white supremacy.
2. Only vote according to your skin color, stand in lockstep, nonconformity assures you don't care about your own race.
3. If you're white and voted for Sears, you only did it because you're racist and are trying to prove you're not.
4. The party only promoted her (deployed her? lol) so they wouldn't look racist and could use her as a constant reminder.

Did I miss anything else from this oracle of black wisdom?

Lol.....

It was known history that the Steele Dossier was originally funded by the Democrats, and then by Republicans.

I dont know how much the Dossier influenced everything. I thought it came to light late in the process. I don't know everything that was in the dossier. I doubt that this means that the entire dossier was a lie - maybe it was, but no doubt that will be the narrative.

I do know that the "Russian Hoax" was not based on a dossier - it was based on unprecedented contact between Trump Campaign and Foreign agents.

And then lying consistently about it.

And then lying again when the first lies were uncovered.

I do know that there have been multiple court cases and people have been found guilty of crimes related to the "Hoax" ....

I do know that at one time the narrative was that if the FBI initiated investigations based on faulty intelligence and an incorrect premise - then the subsequent investigation into Stone and Manafort etc was not legitimate ..... to me, if someone is guilty of the crimes they committed, no matter what initiated the investigation I am glad they were caught and found out. No matter their politics or any other variable.

He doesn't use a manure spreader the way you do.

I could claim Tucker Carlson speaks for all Republicans too. the difference is I don't. As diam would say, that would be Intellectual dishonesty.

Colorado governor avoided paying taxes

Democrats cry about wealthy CEO's not paying their fair share. Yet turn the other way when their own party does not pay their fair share. Do as I say not as I do. Thats the way of the Democrats.

How about Democrats lead by example. Pay their fair share, then they can demand everyone else does the same.

"Be the change you want to see in the world"

I do believe the Democrats - at least most non-progressive ones - are riding a wave of assumptions that they genuinely stand for helping out the working class and everyone paying their fair share. It’s tired and it’s double speak.

The Republicans do the same with the social morality high ground.

To me, the biggest issue is t the opportunist idiots that are taking advantage of the system, but the people who support them refusing to look beyond the shallow rhetoric to figure out that the respective party who they support does not actually have their best interests in mind.

In the end neither party actually has "the working class" in mind. But as you can see with the infrastructure and build back better bills, at least one party feels the need to do at least something that does help them. I certainly believe they do the least they feel they can get away with but at least they do their best to deliver something that helps. I believe they do it more out of their own political interests however.

U.S. consumer prices jump 6.2% in October, the biggest inflation surge in more than 30 years

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/10/consumer-price-index-october.html

WTH Democrats?

I was warning of this several months ago....nobody cared.

Maybe now they do...at least the ones who still pay for things like food and energy.

You, unlike many others on here, were and are Wise.

My warning for the future is the end of the Progressives and the rise of the Moderates in the Dem party.

You and your ilk would have a point if it were restricted to the United states. But it's not. Inflation is rising on a global scale.

Inflation Surges Worldwide as Covid-19 Lockdowns End and Supply Chains Can’t Cope

https://www.wsj.com/articles/inflation-sets-off-alarms-around-the-world-11634304187

But if I had to guess I would say you think this is some kind of global conspiracy and the fact that it's a global issue won't prevent you from blaming biden for it.

I just paid $ 72.oo for gas for my truck.WTH DEMOCRATS. Its always fun to BEG Opec for oil.

Thanks Ya'all

I just paid $ 72.oo for gas for my truck.WTH DEMOCRATS. Its always fun to BEG Opec for oil.

Thanks Ya'all

You can say that again!

Once again you take a global issue and try to make it a political talking point.

Column: Global gas prices soar as industry struggles to meet resurgent demand

https://www.reuters.com/business/en...s-meet-resurgent-demand-kemp-2021-09-09/

And nobody has been "begging OPEC" for oil.

You own it

According to people with their eyes closed. It's a global issue, not an American issue. You're a smart person. Quit playing stupid.

Biden owns this issue. The minute he closed the pipeline down he took ownership.

What pipeline? The one owned by Canada that the oil was going to be processed for export? You, like many others have no clue what you're talking about.

When is a man like a Bra?

When he spends his time defending that Boob.

That's no way to talk about YOUR PRESIDENT. Pretty sure that's what you used to tell me.

Yet you actually can't defend your own position. You blame Democrats in America for something that's taking place all around the globe. That's what a boob looks like.

why is 40, a guy who pays his gardener 15k, whining about consumer prices?

you're balling bro. stay humble.

I see what Biden and his minions are doing to the people he swore to help.

Inflation is crushing the poor.

As it is on a global scale. I guess biden controls the entire globe now according to your ramblings.

Like Biden and the Dems, you point fingers in all directions to cover for your mistakes.

Biden killed oil in this country on day one.

No oil company will increase the number of wells or open old ones because the Left wants to kill oil.
It is not wise to waste any profits on an investment that is dying. Oil companies are buying back stock and raising dividends as they give their profits back to their investors.

So many of the products we use are created from oil like tires and such. The poor buy just as many tires as the middle class.
The poor need to fill their cars with gas to get around. The poor need food that is shipped by trucks paying higher and higher fuel prices.

And the costs are all passed directly on to the customer. Yes, the very people Biden promised to help.

Shame!

Do you actually have anything of substance to back these things up or just spewing more BS like usual?

Are you blaming biden that auto makers are moving away from fossil fuels even though it's the same pattern that went on when trump was president?

Since you seem to think you're the ultimate capitalist I thought the obvious would be something you could grasp. During the pandemic people stopped traveling and oil prices went down to the point it was not profitable to produce. As of now since the price has gone up, production hasn't ramped back up to meet the demand and even problems with finding enough truck drivers to deliver the fuel on hand.

You know, that's how capitalism works.

China has a big inflation problem and it's pushing up prices worldwide

Hong Kong (CNN Business)China's inflation headache is getting worse.

The cost of goods leaving China's factories surged by another record rate last month, and there are increasing signs that consumers are starting to feel the pain.

The Producer Price Index jumped 13.5% in October from a year ago, accelerating from September's 10.7%, China's National Bureau of Statistics said Wednesday. Last month's increase was already the fastest since the government began releasing such data in the mid-1990s, according to Eikon Refinitiv.

And it now appears that the higher costs are trickling down. China's Consumer Price Index rose 1.5% in October from a year ago, double the rate of the previous month and the fastest pace of increase since September 2020.

"We are concerned about the passthrough from producer prices to consumer prices," said Zhiwei Zhang, chief economist for Hong Kong-based Pinpoint Asset Management. "Firms managed to use their inventories of inputs as a buffer to avoid passing the higher costs to their customers before, but their inventories have been depleted."

October marks the first time consumer inflation has picked up in five months. The rate had been gradually diminishing since May. But rising energy bills and food supply chain disruptions have begun to stoke higher prices.

Last week, China's Ministry of Commerce issued a notice directing local governments to encourage families to stock up on food and other daily essentials as bad weather, energy shortages and Covid-19 restrictions threatened to disrupt supplies. The sudden warning sparked panic buying among the public and frenzied online speculation.

Authorities attributed the rise in consumer inflation to surging costs for vegetables and gas.

Vegetable prices jumped 16% in October, mainly due to heavy rainfall and rising transportation costs, according to a statement from Dong Lijuan, a senior statistician for the NBS. Extreme weather has hurt crops, and authorities have acknowledged that the cost of transiting across regions could rise because of strict measures intended to contain outbreaks of Covid-19.

Gasoline and diesel prices rose more than 30%, Dong said.

An ongoing energy crunch was also the major contributor to the rise in producer price inflation, as the cost of coal mining and processing has risen.

The world's second largest economy is already growing at the slowest pace in a year as the energy woes, shipping disruptions and a deepening property crisis take their toll.

Rising inflation in the country is also triggering global concerns. The soaring producer inflation is "fueling upward pressure on global inflation," considering China's role as the world's factory and its importance to the global supply chain, according to Ken Cheung, chief Asian foreign exchange strategist for Mizuho Bank.

Producer inflation also may stay high "for a while, likely through the winter," said Jing Liu, senior economist for Greater China at HSBC. She added that energy prices may also continue to rise, and expected that consumer inflation could continue to pick up.


https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/10/economy/china-cpi-ppi-inflation-intl-hnk/index.html

Asian, European motorists face record petrol prices as winter sets in

https://www.reuters.com/business/en...rd-petrol-prices-winter-sets-2021-10-22/

The world had nothing to do with us because President Trump had us energy independent. We controlled our own destiny. We controlled our own production, thus prices.

Biden is killing that.

This is what happens when you believe a habitual liar....

U.S. Is Not “Energy Independent,” Despite Trump’s Claims

https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/...nergy-independent-despite-trumps-claims/

Ok, bra.

with the exception of imports from Canada and Mexico, in which case it is called North American energy independence.

He didn't have us energy independent, that's a damn lie. Since Obama authorized the export of US oil, maybe even before, we've been buying crude from OPEC and south America.

He used 'bra' like it was an insult. smh.

And 40, why do you think we care so much about Venezuela? Could it have anything to do with their oil?

From mob looting in San Francisco to deaths in Waukesha these shocking crimes should be a wake-up call

Being pro-criminal and anti-police is beginning to undermine the fabric of our civilization.

The deadly actions of the last few days should serve as a wake-up call to most Americans. Being pro-criminal and anti-police is beginning to undermine the fabric of our civilization.

We have already seen a dramatic rise in murders and other crimes.

Now, we have a massacre by a convicted criminal who drove a vehicle into a Christmas parade, killing six people and wounding 40 who had gathered to celebrate the birth of Christ and the beginning of the Christmas season.

The attack in Waukesha, Wisconsin dazed the country because it was so stunning to see such senseless killing and maiming. It was a frightening reminder that we now live in a country where we can all be at risk at any time and place.

At nearly the same time, 2,159 miles to the west, a mob was breaking into stores and looting them. The open vandalism, theft, and destruction resembled a scene from the movie "Clockwork Orange." It is a pattern of criminal aggression which has been building in San Francisco since the city’s communist, pro-criminal, anti-law enforcement district attorney took office.

As of last reports, there have been three days of looting in San Francisco, and it has now spread to San Jose. As the looting is more widely reported, there is a real likelihood it will spread to other cities.

There has been continuous rioting and violence in Portland, Oregon for almost two years, with Antifa as the primary activist agent.

In New York, there is a no bail rule which allows criminals to walk out of jail faster than the police can fill out arrest reports. The result has been that the police have simply stopped arresting people for many small crimes. The mayor of a town in New Jersey, across the river from New York City, told me of similar incidents in his community. There, the police kick would-be thieves out of town rather than arrest them, because they know the local prosecutor will simply release the crooks.

The patterns of destruction resemble scenes from Ayn Rand’s 1957 novel "Atlas Shrugged." Rand believed the inevitable pattern of civilization was for the weak and predatory to make life impossible for the productive and entrepreneurial. She imagined the most competent, energetic, and productive people would withdraw from society, and civilization would subsequently collapse.
Many of our recent developments resemble Rand’s nightmare. Consider the collapse of the rule of law, chaos at the border, and the proposal in New York City to let 800,000 non-citizens vote in local elections. The list goes on.

The tragedy of the breakdown of civilization is: We know how to have law abiding, safe communities – and have had historic experience in our lifetime.

As I wrote in my new book, "Beyond Biden," when George Kelling and James Q. Wilson wrote their ground-breaking "Broken Windows" theory in 1982, they found that if you stop small crimes and disorders, and repair damaged property, you create a positive environment which makes crime decline dramatically.

Police Commissioner Bill Bratton applied this theory with the New York City Transit Police, the Boston Police, as Mayor Rudy Giuliani’s partner in New York City, and finally in Los Angeles.

We know empirically that a sound program of crime prevention, which applies principles that work, leads to safety and prosperity. In 1991, New York City was disastrous, crime-ridden, and dangerous. It became safer – first through Mayor Giuliani and then through Mayor Michael Bloomberg. By 2017, New York City had become the safest in its history.

Then, Mayor Bill de Blasio and his Big Government Socialist belief in attacking the police and favoring criminals undermined the entire system (which had been protecting the innocent while pursuing the guilty).

Soon, the American people are going to grow tired of being sacrificed on the altar of Big Government Socialist fanaticism.

The sooner that happens, the sooner we can eliminate lawlessness and return to peaceful civilization.

-Former Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives Newt Gingrich

Newt always was and always be a shill that spouts propaganda and absolute crap.

... and his other-woman "trophy"wife never, ever takes off that golden helmet of hers. What an annoying pair they are...

Typical.

Can't refute what the man has to say, the ignorant attack the man.

Honestly, his BS propaganda doesn't deserve any reaction. It's like stupid ass clowns yelling at you for wearing makeup when you are the only one with a clean face...

1. Make sure you’re not guilty of what you accuse.

2. I do think that Giuliani and Bloomberg were good when it came to the crime in NYC. It’s a shame that Rudy decided to destroy his legacy after his time as mayor, but he did a respectable job on crime from what I can tell.

3. It’s hard to tell a comparison of the policies in place vs the former from what he cites in his article. Most of what he has in there is anecdotal and/or top level. Had he done a more in depth comparison of moves that were made, I think it would have been much more substantive, at least to the people who didn’t want to be spoon fed. He does refer to his earlier books, but dodges any substantive correlation.

4. The other posters you are responding to aren’t wrong. Mgh mentions his use of propaganda and as I mention above, this article chooses propaganda over substance. He uses almost a checklist of buzz words that are inflammatory to his firm and far right base. “Big Government Socialist” is probably the flavor of the week right now. It serves poor use in this sense because A) he praises Bloomberg on one hand, yet Bloomberg was also known as a big government (“Nanny Bloomberg”?), and B) being tough on crime is essentially “big government” and has nothing to do with socialism. I’m pretty sure during the throes of communist revolutions in China, Russia, Cuba and North Korea, I would not want to be caught committing a crime.

So, bottom line, if he wants to substantively discuss a parallel between policies, that can be Gad, but you cannot claim that he is not saturating any underlying valid point he has here with deflections into cheap propaganda.

Newt may have read it, but I doubt he was the author…

The spittle that comes out of the GOP these days is a far cry from the days of William F. Buckley or George Will..

To paraphrase, It’s a noun, a verb, and socialist or communist.

The oil spigot is controled by oil companies not governments.

They control supply and demand by turning it on or off. They manipulate the price.

trump did nothing but attempt to put more money into the hands of big oil.

That's the biggest pile of BS ever...

Explain to me, if the Gas Price rise is on Biden, then why is every country in the world experiencing this rise in prices? Are you trying to tell me that Biden has control of the world wide gas market... That would be stupid to think

Where the hell do you get your information.. Geez,, The USA is not Energy Independent.. Trump tells you that and without even trying to research it, you and those that kiss his ass just believe it.

And Mexico paid for the wall.

Probably from the same damn place the libs got that idea when Bush and his "big oil" friends had gas prices rise? I bet you will claim you don't remember that.

And what isn't being discussed is the cities controlled by Dems are being plundered daily. They don't care. Dems don't care because it is their voters in action.