Elon Musk calls U.S. media and schools ‘racist against whites & Asians’
Elon Musk, the CEO of SpaceX, Tesla
and Twitter, accused “the media” and “elite colleges and high schools” of being “racist” against white and Asian people, espousing his views without providing evidence on Sunday.
Musk posted his comments on Twitter, where he has nearly 130 million followers, in response to news that media organizations around the country decided to cut the comic strip “Dilbert” from syndication after its creator, Scott Adams, delivered a racist tirade in a video on his YouTube channel last week.
In the video, Adams discussed a poll conducted by right-leaning Rasmussen Reports that said 26% of Black respondents disagreed with the statement “It’s OK to be white.” The phrase referenced in their poll has been labeled a “hate slogan” by the Anti-Defamation League. In his video, Adams called Black people who rejected that phrase as a “hate group.”
Adams also said that he personally chose to live in a community where few or no Black people lived, and then advised his white viewers to “get the hell away from Black people,” saying he didn’t “want to have anything to do with them.”
Adams’ video was published during Black History Month in the U.S., which was established in 1976 by President Gerald Ford as a period during which to honor the struggles and contributions of Black Americans.
Among the news outlets that dropped “Dilbert” were the Los Angeles Times, The Oregonian, The Cleveland Plain Dealer, The Washington Post and USA Today. Musk’s track record
Brian Levin, a civil rights attorney and director of the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at California State University said, in response to Musk’s tweets:
“Systemic racism requires not only widespread bigotry to be held within a group but also a structural component that allows discrimination and oppression to be imposed on a minority because of an advantage of access and power. A white billionaire from South Africa who recently lost a high profile racial discrimination case may not be in the best position to offer counsel.”
As CNBC previously reported, a San Francisco federal court ruled that Tesla must pay a former worker, Owen Diaz, for damages after he endured a hostile work environment and racist abuse at the company’s factory where he previously worked as an elevator operator.
Additionally, the EEOC, a federal agency responsible for enforcing civil rights laws against workplace discrimination, has issued a cause finding against Tesla, according to a financial filing from the company last year.
Prior to the EEOC finding, the California Civil Rights Department, formerly known as the Department of Fair Employment and Housing, sued Tesla after a three-year investigation, alleging widespread racist discrimination at Tesla factories and facilities across the state.
The CRD alleged that Tesla has kept Black workers in lower-level roles at the company even when they have the skills and experience to be promoted to more senior roles; assigned Black workers more demanding, dangerous and dirty work in their facilities; and retaliated against Black workers who complained formally about what they endured, including racist slurs used by managers.
Tesla called the CRD’s lawsuit “misguided,” and later countersued the agency. The data on racism
Musk made his claims about “the media” and some higher educational institutions and high schools in the U.S. without presenting any evidence.
Specifically, he wrote, “The media is racist.” He then added, “For a *very* long time, US media was racist against non-white people, now they’re racist against whites & Asians. Same thing happened with elite colleges & high schools in America. Maybe they can try not being racist.”
According to Pew Research, newsroom employees are much more likely to be white (and male) than U.S. workers overall. In film and TV, according to McKinsey research, “Black talent is underrepresented across the industry, particularly off-screen.” Less than 6% of the writers, directors and producers of U.S.-produced films are Black, McKinsey found.
According to the most recently available U.S. Census Bureau data, about 29% of non-Hispanic white people in the U.S. have attained a bachelor’s degree or higher levels of education, about 18.4% of Black people in the U.S. have attained that level of education, and about 51.3% of Asian people have done so.
Despite Asian American educational attainment, Asians are underrepresented in leadership roles in U.S. academic libraries and higher education, according to research by Mihoko Hosoi, published in the Journal of Library Administration in 2022.
Musk also replied to one Twitter account that said unarmed white people affected by police violence only get a fraction of the media attention paid to Black people injured or killed by police. Musk claimed that the media coverage is “Very disproportionate to promote a false narrative.”
According to research by Brookings Institute, “Black people are 3.5 times more likely than white people to be killed by police when Blacks are not attacking or do not have a weapon,” and “Black teenagers are 21 times more likely than white teenagers to be killed by police.” Hate speech on Twitter
Imran Ahmed, the CEO and founder of the Center for Countering Digital Hate, said in response to Musk’s tweets, “Elon Musk seeks to portray himself as some weird, bizarro champion of anti-racism whereas in reality when he took over Twitter, he made a series of disturbing decisions to change its rules to welcome racist hate back onto the platform and, as our research has shown, to profit from the controversy and attention hate generates.”
Ahmed also called on remaining advertisers to reevaluate whether they want to spend their budgets on Twitter, given Musk’s beliefs and changes he has made to the Twitter platform.
Since leading a $44 billion leveraged buyout of Twitter late last year and appointing himself “Chief Twit,” or CEO, Musk has stirred controversy and lost money at the social media business.
Under Musk’s watch, Twitter has restored the accounts of some previously banned and divisive figures, including neo-Nazi website founder Andrew Anglin. His moves led to an unprecedented rise in hate speech on the platform, the Center for Countering Digital Hate found, and drew an immediate outcry from civil rights leaders.
Hundreds of Twitter’s top advertisers have since halted or pulled back on ad spending there. One firm estimated that Twitter’s ad revenue declined as much as 70% in December from the previous year, Reuters reported. Musk acknowledged in a November tweet that the company suffered a “massive drop in revenue” after advertisers paused spending on the social media platform.
Musk and representatives at Twitter, SpaceX and Tesla did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
Specifically, he wrote, “The media is racist.” He then added, “For a *very* long time, US media was racist against non-white people, now they’re racist against whites & Asians. Same thing happened with elite colleges & high schools in America. Maybe they can try not being racist.”
musk has said… "To be clear, I support the left half of the Republican Party and the right half of the Democratic Party!" He’s socially liberal and financially conservative. In other words an eccentric pompous ass.
Did you seriously miss his chameleon routine? It started on the Joe Rogan show or around that time. Elon drank some of the Trumpian kool-aid and lost his damn mind. I know it wasn't the pot unless he's some kind of alien.
Perhaps Elon should stop diddling around with Twitter and save some lives.
WALNUT CREEK -- A Tesla that crashed into a fire truck on northbound I-680 in February, killing the driver and injuring a passenger as well as four firefighters was operating on an automated driving system.
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said Wednesday it has dispatched a special crash investigation team to look into the Feb. 18 crash.
The probe is part of a larger investigation by the agency into Teslas on Autopilot repeatedly crashing into parked emergency vehicles that are tending to other crashes.
Perhaps Elon should stop diddling around with Twitter and save some lives.
WALNUT CREEK -- A Tesla that crashed into a fire truck on northbound I-680 in February, killing the driver and injuring a passenger as well as four firefighters was operating on an automated driving system.
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said Wednesday it has dispatched a special crash investigation team to look into the Feb. 18 crash.
The probe is part of a larger investigation by the agency into Teslas on Autopilot repeatedly crashing into parked emergency vehicles that are tending to other crashes.
Tesla shouldn't have crashed if the driver had both hands on the wheel.
Perhaps Elon should stop diddling around with Twitter and save some lives.
WALNUT CREEK -- A Tesla that crashed into a fire truck on northbound I-680 in February, killing the driver and injuring a passenger as well as four firefighters was operating on an automated driving system.
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said Wednesday it has dispatched a special crash investigation team to look into the Feb. 18 crash.
The probe is part of a larger investigation by the agency into Teslas on Autopilot repeatedly crashing into parked emergency vehicles that are tending to other crashes.
What, exactly, do you believe Elon would have done differently? Do you think he is actually writing code? Training AI? Seriously, what do you think, and be specific, do you think he would have done to change this?
Perhaps Elon should stop diddling around with Twitter and save some lives.
WALNUT CREEK -- A Tesla that crashed into a fire truck on northbound I-680 in February, killing the driver and injuring a passenger as well as four firefighters was operating on an automated driving system.
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said Wednesday it has dispatched a special crash investigation team to look into the Feb. 18 crash.
The probe is part of a larger investigation by the agency into Teslas on Autopilot repeatedly crashing into parked emergency vehicles that are tending to other crashes.
What, exactly, do you believe Elon would have done differently? Do you think he is actually writing code? Training AI? Seriously, what do you think, and be specific, do you think he would have done to change this?
He’s the CEO for gods sake and he’s dicking around with twitter while calling out the US safety regulators. He needs to lead Tesla’s recalls and stop dicking around with twitter with all the the other fools.
Israel accuses Elon Musk of stoking antisemitism on Twitter after anti-Soros remark
‘The Jews’ trends on platform after billionaire says Jewish philanthropist ‘hates humanity’; Foreign Ministry pans company for taking no action
Israel’s Foreign Ministry on Tuesday accused Twitter owner Elon Musk of driving up antisemitic rhetoric on his social media platform in the wake of a remark he made against Jewish philanthropist George Soros.
Musk tweeted a day earlier that Soros “hates humanity,” and wrote that the billionaire and progressive megadonor “reminds me of Magneto,” a comic book villain who features in Marvel’s X-Men series.
“The phrase ‘The Jews’ spiked today on the list of topics trending on Twitter following a tweet with antisemitic overtones by none other than the owner and CEO of the social network, Elon Musk,” the Foreign Ministry tweeted on its official account.
It said that Musk’s tweet “immediately led to antisemitic conspiracy theories on Twitter.”
Separately, the ministry’s Director of Digital Diplomacy David Saranga tweeted a screenshot of Twitter trending numbers showing that, on Tuesday morning, there were 27,900 recent tweets using the phrase “The Jews.”
Tweets were “filled with antisemitic conspiracies and hate speech targeting Jews around the world,” Saranga wrote. “Unfortunately Twitter does nothing to address this problem.”
Saranga then cited Martin Niemöller, the German theologian who opposed the Nazi regime and was imprisoned in concentration camps.
“‘First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out — because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out — because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out — because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me — and there was no one left to speak for me,'” Saranga quoted.
“Niemöller’s words serve as an indictment of passivity and indifference during the Holocaust,” Saranga wrote and noted that the quote is written on the wall of the Holocaust Museum in Washington.
The attacks on Soros come as Twitter has faced criticism over its lax hate speech policies in the months since Musk, one of the world’s richest people, bought the platform last year. Soros, the billionaire and progressive megadonor, is at the center of multiple antisemitic conspiracy theories.
Like Soros, the character of Magneto is a Holocaust survivor. Brian Krassenstein, a liberal Jewish journalist, noted that parallel in a reply to Musk’s tweet, writing that “Magneto’s experiences during the Holocaust as a survivor shaped his perspective as well as his depth and empathy,” and that Soros “gets attacked nonstop for his good intentions which some Americans think are bad merely because they disagree with [his] political affiliations.”
CEO of the Anti-Defamation League Jonathan Greenblatt called Musk’s remark “dangerous” and encouraging to anti-Jewish extremists.
“Soros often is held up by the far-right, using antisemitic tropes, as the source of the world’s problems,” Greenblatt tweeted. “To see Elon Musk, regardless of his intent, feed this segment — comparing him to a Jewish supervillain, claiming Soros ‘hates humanity’ — is not just distressing, it’s dangerous: it will embolden extremists who already contrive anti-Jewish conspiracies and have tried to attack Soros and Jewish communities as a result.
While Musk has railed against progressive policies, what prompted his attack on Soros isn’t clear. On the same day as the tweets, however, Soros’s family investment office cashed out its investment in Tesla, Musk’s electric car company.
Soros, 92, has long been a target of conservatives for backing progressive causes and politicians in the United States and worldwide. In the last decade or so, some of the attacks have echoed antisemitic conspiracy theories, depicting Soros as satanic, accusing him of seeking world control and falsely accusing him of helping perpetrate the Holocaust rather than surviving it as a child.
Musk responded, “You assume they are good intentions. They are not. He wants to erode the very fabric of civilization. Soros hates humanity.”
CEO of the Anti-Defamation League Jonathan Greenblatt called Musk’s remark “dangerous” and encouraging to anti-Jewish extremists.
These conspiracy theories accelerated after the 2016 election of Donald Trump, who made Soros a focus of his final campaign ad that year and who has relentlessly portrayed Soros as a villain as he runs for the 2024 election.
Musk, who calls himself a free speech absolutist, has reinstated the Twitter accounts of right-wing extremists who had previously been banned, a move that alarmed Jewish anti-bigotry groups. He suspended some of the extremists again after they returned to posting hateful tweets. Extremists have lauded him and he has returned the affection, encouraging some of their theories.
In December, Musk disbanded an advisory group focused on “Trust and Safety” on Twitter, and in March, a study by the Institute for Strategic Dialogue think tank found that antisemitism more than doubled on the platform in the months since Musk took it over.
Disregard the posters' comments...that's not why I posted and I have no idea if the episode was deleted. But the commentary of Soros and tone is something else.
Almost posted that last night, but I figured people would set their hair on fire.
It's crazy how someone is labeled an antisemite because he calls someone evil -- who happens to be Jewish. But that very Jew said he didn't mind rounding up other Jews while posing as someone he wasn't. Basically, with the same demeanor that makes a Fentanyl dealer feel comfortable with his actions "if it wasn't me it would be someone else".
What's way crazier is this: Someone decides Elon's tweet is antisemitic, yells "fire", causes much more antisemitic talk than if that megaphone was left alone... blames the person who never said anything antisemitic in the first place.
What's craziest: as evidence by some of the posts here; some things can be labeled as hate speech by the thinnest of correlations. Yet the resulting hate speech is perfectly acceptable -- even championed by those participating -- as long as the original 'instigator' as any two of these things: rich, white, republican.
The republicans on this board like everywhere else in the country, have zero accountability for their words. Yet, I get regular bans for calling it out their vile thinking and BS they say. And they wonder what is happening to their beloved America…. Look in the mirror. Fascist right wingers have ruined this country.
As I stated earlier, they seem to be arguing with the Israeli government's findings on how Elon Musk's comments relate to anti sematism. Of course the nation of Israel knows nothing about the topic while posters on this message board act like they do. How amazing is that?
Thanks for showing that you believe posting about a nation that was built by the very people who survived the holocaust for calling Musk out for his antisemitic remarks is the act of a snowflake. But then what easier way to try and place a negative label on someone that posts things you would rather people not see. Haven't you figured out by now that I'm not going anywhere and your BS isn't going to change that?
Thanks for showing that you believe posting about a nation that was built by the very people who survived the holocaust for calling Musk out for his antisemitic remarks is the act of a snowflake. But then what easier way to try and place a negative label on someone that posts things you would rather people not see. Haven't you figured out by now that I'm not going anywhere and your BS isn't going to change that?
It is interesting to reread your comments and see how they have evolved as you need to spin this.
Israel did not call out Musk for his "antisemetic remarks". Israel's Foreign Ministry "accused Twitter owner Elon Musk of driving up antisemitic rhetoric on his social media platform in the wake of a remark he made against Jewish philanthropist George Soros", in other words what he said "caused" other people to make antisemetic comments. This is not the same as him doing so.
I do wonder, as well, if the comments by the Foreign Ministry are official comments from the government or just something someone in the ministry said. it all reeks of spin.
Thanks for showing that you believe posting about a nation that was built by the very people who survived the holocaust for calling Musk out for his antisemitic remarks is the act of a snowflake. But then what easier way to try and place a negative label on someone that posts things you would rather people not see. Haven't you figured out by now that I'm not going anywhere and your BS isn't going to change that?
It is interesting to reread your comments and see how they have evolved as you need to spin this.
Israel did not call out Musk for his "antisemetic remarks". Israel's Foreign Ministry "accused Twitter owner Elon Musk of driving up antisemitic rhetoric on his social media platform in the wake of a remark he made against Jewish philanthropist George Soros", in other words what he said "caused" other people to make antisemetic comments. This is not the same as him doing so.
I do wonder, as well, if the comments by the Foreign Ministry are official comments from the government or just something someone in the ministry said. it all reeks of spin.
Quick question as I wonder what your opinion is...
Does the Foreign Ministry's comments drive up antisemitic rhetoric just as much or more than Musk's? And then... (if true) should that result also be considered Musk's fault?
Thanks for showing that you believe posting about a nation that was built by the very people who survived the holocaust for calling Musk out for his antisemitic remarks is the act of a snowflake. But then what easier way to try and place a negative label on someone that posts things you would rather people not see. Haven't you figured out by now that I'm not going anywhere and your BS isn't going to change that?
It is interesting to reread your comments and see how they have evolved as you need to spin this.
Israel did not call out Musk for his "antisemetic remarks". Israel's Foreign Ministry "accused Twitter owner Elon Musk of driving up antisemitic rhetoric on his social media platform in the wake of a remark he made against Jewish philanthropist George Soros", in other words what he said "caused" other people to make antisemetic comments. This is not the same as him doing so.
I do wonder, as well, if the comments by the Foreign Ministry are official comments from the government or just something someone in the ministry said. it all reeks of spin.
Oh no! It's like he didn't even read the article....again!
So now you ask if Israel's Foreign Ministry speaks for the Israeli government? And you talk about me trying to spin things?
Yeah, there's nothing antisemitic about saying things people see as antisemitic which incites them into posting antisemitic things themselves. Stoking the fire means nothing in you and your ilks world. Nothing new in that train of thought. Just like January 6th.
So now you ask if Israel's Foreign Ministry speaks for the Israeli government? And you talk about me trying to spin things?
Yeah, there's nothing antisemitic about saying things people see as antisemitic which incites them into posting antisemitic things themselves. Stoking the fire means nothing in you and your ilks world. Nothing new in that train of thought. Just like January 6th.
There are official and non official communications. This is typical in the real world from governments, corporations etc. It really is a legitimate question to understand what the ministry actually said and how it was released. That is not spin. Understanding context is important, unless you feel the need to hide that so you can continue to spin that "Israel said Musk is anti semite" which they did not even in the article you posted.
Well, that post was a trainwreck... including the usual lies, goalpost moving, intense hyperbole... and even a Trump reference. You tried to ram in so many Pitisms that it's incoherent and unreadable.
Well, that post was a trainwreck... including the usual lies, goalpost moving, intense hyperbole... and even a Trump reference. You tried to ram in so many Pitisms that it's incoherent and unreadable.
And you claim I'm the one who can't stay on topic? lmao Throwing stones at the person who posted something is great way to dodge what they actually posted. Nothing new there.
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Have a nice day, Bubby.
Oh I will. Come back when you can address the points made rather than attack the one who made them. Desperation is not pretty.
"Israel said Musk is anti semite" which they did not even in the article you posted.
You talk about spin while using it yourself. I never said what you claim in your quote. The closest thing to that I posted was that musk made "antisemitic remarks". Try following your own advice for a change as you point your finger at others.
I’m proud to be a snowflake if it means being better than you and your ilk. That’s like a junkie making fun of me for not using heroin… whatevs. I wouldn’t buy into your fear mongering fascist BS no matter what you call me or how you might threaten me. I’d rather punch nazis in the nose and go down swinging.
I’m proud to be a snowflake if it means being better than you and your ilk. That’s like a junkie making fun of me for not using heroin… whatevs. I wouldn’t buy into your fear mongering fascist BS no matter what you call me or how you might threaten me. I’d rather punch nazis in the nose and go down swinging.
Triggered everyday by fascist BS from the right. By far the greatest threat this country has ever faced. PEOPLE LIKE YOU DENYING IT ARE THE PROBLEM. And people supporting it are traitors to the man.
Triggered everyday by fascist BS from the right. By far the greatest threat this country has ever faced. PEOPLE LIKE YOU DENYING IT ARE THE PROBLEM. And people supporting it are traitors to the man.
Switch from algo to AI. It’s fighting the training on GOPer logic though. Even in it’s infancy it sees y’all for who you are..
You and Pit are doing this all wrong. Instead of words you need emojis and GIFs and Memes. Clearly that is the sophisticated way to respond and ensure you don't actually have to take a position - just laugh at others.
Switch from algo to AI. It’s fighting the training on GOPer logic though. Even in it’s infancy it sees y’all for who you are..
You and Pit are doing this all wrong. Instead of words you need emojis and GIFs and Memes. Clearly that is the sophisticated way to respond and ensure you don't actually have to take a position - just laugh at others.
"Israel said Musk is anti semite" which they did not even in the article you posted.
You talk about spin while using it yourself. I never said what you claim in your quote. The closest thing to that I posted was that musk made "antisemitic remarks". Try following your own advice for a change as you point your finger at others.
Pretty sure the only gang we have on here is You, FankZ, Memphis and Vers when he's around. You all belittle and gang up on a regular basis - y'all be very good at it. But then this is a classic Trumpian trick. . . accuse others of what you yourself do. Not that you're a trumpian ... just borrowing from his repoitoire. I know for a cast Iron fact OCD and Pit and I have all spent many threads arguing and disagreeing vehemently with each other. But don't let that get in the way of a cute meme.
While I'm certainly not qualified to say on such topics, it appears those that are have an opinion about that.....
How Narcissists Blame and Accuse Others for Their Own Shortcomings
People with strong narcissistic tendencies and other dark personality traits tend to blame others for their own bad behavior. If they are lying, then they will accuse others of lying. If they are cruel, they will say that others are cruel. If they are stealing and scamming, then they will accuse others of stealing and scamming. They never take responsibility, and it’s always someone elses fault.
Besides ascribing their undesirable character traits to others, they will attribute the good characteristics of others to themselves. For example, if they see someone being nice, they will say, No, no, this person is not niceI am nice! If somebody is successful and happy, the narcissist will say, That person is such a loser and a fakebut I, I am really successful and authentic!
Psychologically speaking, this mechanism is called projection, and I talk more about it in my article titled 5 Ways Narcissists Project and Attack You.
I'm not saying this is true of some who throw out all of these accusations on this board but it certainly makes for an interesting read and the similarities are uncanny.
Pretty sure the only gang we have on here is You, FankZ, Memphis and Vers when he's around. You all belittle and gang up on a regular basis - y'all be very good at it. But then this is a classic Trumpian trick. . . accuse others of what you yourself do. Not that you're a trumpian ... just borrowing from his repoitoire. I know for a cast Iron fact OCD and Pit and I have all spent many threads arguing and disagreeing vehemently with each other. But don't let that get in the way of a cute meme.
I get to be in a gang now? Fun times. Is there a membership card?
Nice you can't make a point without "trump trump trumpity trump"
No it is not the same. Compare the two quotes. They are not the same. Nowhere did I call Musk antisemitic.
While I have no idea about this specific instance, often times people say things without knowing or understanding the historical context. As such they can make antisemitic or even racist remarks without being either racist or antisemitic. You're welcome.
I get to be in a gang now? Fun times. Is there a membership card?
That depends on your perspective. The poster he was actually addressing claimed the other side was a gang. So if one side is seen as gang in that context, then so should the other side be. If you do not share that perspective you would see neither side as a gang.
And we know how much all of you despise trump being brought up. So much so you would rather to try and make those who bring him up more accountable for doing that than making him accountable for all of the things he has done. How precious.
Well, I think "fringe method of communication" is definitely a stretch.
But he literally, just yesterday, said he does. not. care... in no uncertain terms. He said he will never censor his own speech, language, ideas because he rules Twitter. So, I think a lot of people are caught in a trap of trying to determine what "his cause" is.
Well, I think "fringe method of communication" is definitely a stretch.
But he literally, just yesterday, said he does. not. care... in no uncertain terms. He said he will never censor his own speech, language, ideas because he rules Twitter. So, I think a lot of people are caught in a trap of trying to determine what "his cause" is.
And that's usually the very type of thing people say as an excuse to just spout off and say nasty things without using any self restraint. Because these days it's more about hits to your account and self promotion and attention seeking than anything else. I remember well when the entire "politically correct" topic came to be. How people said how expecting people to be politically correct was wrong. Even at that time I knew what it was all about.
Using excuses to be nasty and hateful while avoiding any actual, rational discussion. And here we are.
Switch from algo to AI. It’s fighting the training on GOPer logic though. Even in it’s infancy it sees y’all for who you are..
You have no clue what you are talking about when it comes to AI
Oh yes I do, ^ this was not serious, in case you didn’t get that. I don’t have a PHD in machine learning, data science, or anything else; but I’m probably in the high 90s percentile of Americans with my knowledge of it, and know enough to fine tune and train my own or to get paid for business integrations. I have no idea what you do, but I doubt you know more than me, and if you do, you should be teaching instead of siding with monsters to keep it from people. Oh, and while you are at it, do a deep dive on sarcasm and exchanging shots, you could really use it.
Switch from algo to AI. It’s fighting the training on GOPer logic though. Even in it’s infancy it sees y’all for who you are..
You have no clue what you are talking about when it comes to AI
Oh yes I do, ^ this was not serious, in case you didn’t get that. I don’t have a PHD in machine learning, data science, or anything else; but I’m probably in the high 90s percentile of Americans with my knowledge of it, and know enough to fine tune and train my own or to get paid for business integrations. I have no idea what you do, but I doubt you know more than me, and if you do, you should be teaching instead of siding with monsters to keep it from people. Oh, and while you are at it, do a deep dive on sarcasm and exchanging shots, you could really use it.
Without getting into too many particulars ...
One of my core functions is to help project manage and build various technologies for ourselves and our customers which includes 2 subsets of AI.
Why would I teach more people how to build AI?
- AI is not something kids or weekend warriors should be playing with and it is rather upsetting that it is attempted to be passed around like Halloween candy. - 12 months ago there only was about a half-million or so of us who could build and manipulate AI. Now, hundreds of millions can on some level manipulate AI or at least, play with it. - If I had to guess... 99% of people do not have the right tools/mindset to code AI. - Of the remaining 1%.... 97% of those people are not smart enough to know when the AI is wrong or even capable of fixing it. - Because of that, AI should be regulated, registered, and restricted before some "try-hard" weekend warrior destroys a city's power grid, accidentally wipes out hundreds of servers worth of data, or accidentally drive thousands of thousands of cars off the road at once.
Sarcasm is hard to understand unless it is in purple.
It sounds like is you saying is that you are smart enough to play a complex video game but you couldn't write or debug the hundreds of thousands of lines of code to make the complex video game. Got it.
Youre too late to the party. The cat is out of the bag. There are tons of AI out there available to the public. And even if there werent, it would be stupid to pause it because all the rest of the world (competition) is working with it. We cannot get behind with this.
OCD can code so I dont know why you are crabbing at him. And I build simulation games. Its not hard.
It’s fine if you think that. You couldn’t be more wrong. And I didn’t know my post needed an explanation for the AI sensitive. Ask me whatever you want to know, I’d be glad to chat in private or even zoom with you to compare notes. But we definitely see AI different. I see it as a tool, that much like all other tech isn’t fully proved out or vetted in all the ways it can go wrong. Big deal. But a pocket ai that just helps people do little crap to improve their lives rather it be something as simple as budgeting or as complex as using software by voice, small AI isn’t a problem. the problem comes when people have the money to go big, yet have no scruples or morals. And I’m railing against that because unlike you, I don’t trust major corps to do what’s right or the government to regulate it without creating an advantage for the rich. AI can level the playing field in almost every way, or at least that is the potential we will soon realize. And that is all MONEY MONEY MONEY to the dark money corps. Trump doesn’t need a Watson or Deepmind under his control, that’s for damn sure.
Open source AI will keep big players honest, this is where I want to contribute, hopefully in a big way. And scaring people about AI is wrong. IT’S NOT THE GUN IT’S THE PEOPLE… AI is here, can’t put it back in the bottle, regulations or not. If you have the money for the infrastructure to go big, nothing to stop you. If your corrupt, regulations won’t do a thing. Compounding the problems we face in the near future, the inevitable pairing of business, AI, and automation will hit everyone hard. And I think those who don’t learn to incorporate AI into their everyday lives will be antiquated and unemployable. I want to be part of that integration.
Also, I knew you worked in a tech field, but had no idea you worked hands on with AI. I thought we talked about coding another time, can’t remember tbh. Anyway, my AI study IS ongoing. It’s almost impossible to keep up with all that is going on in AI. I started with IBM’s online training, and have learned to train (fine tune) existing models, how to incorporate them in apps. I’ve also learned to train one from a dataset from scratch, but have not attempted anything like that. I’m currently working on something I consider special in an app. If it takes off like I think, I’ll bring receipts, if not, well I must be another script kiddie who doesn’t know python from Roman numerals. And if you’ve been working at it for years, thanks for putting in the leg work.
Hope you wrap around all that, my weed tea kicked in about an hour ago.
AI has a very dangerous potential in ways it can be used in the future. As we all know, if humans can find a way to abuse and weaponize something, they will.......
Artificial intelligence pioneer leaves Google and warns about technology's future
Geoffrey Hinton, a trailblazer in AI, has joined the growing list of experts sharing their concerns about its rapid advancement.
The "godfather of AI" is issuing a warning about the technology he helped create.
Geoffrey Hinton, a trailblazer in artificial intelligence, has joined the growing list of experts sharing their concerns about the rapid advancement of artificial intelligence. The renowned computer scientist recently left his job at Google to speak openly about his worries about the technology and where he sees it going.
“It is hard to see how you can prevent the bad actors from using it for bad things,” Hinton said in an interview with The New York Times.
Hinton is worried that future versions of the technology pose a real threat to humanity.
“The idea that this stuff could actually get smarter than people — a few people believed that,” he said in the interview. “But most people thought it was way off. And I thought it was way off. I thought it was 30 to 50 years or even longer away. Obviously, I no longer think that.”
Hinton, 75, is most noted for the rapid development of deep learning, which uses mathematical structures called neural networks to pull patterns from massive sets of data.
Like other experts, he believes the race between Big Tech to develop more powerful AI will only escalate into a global race.
Hinton tweeted Monday morning that he felt Google had acted responsibly in its development of AI, but that he had to leave the company to speak out.
Jeff Dean, senior vice president of Google Research and AI, said in an emailed statement: “Geoff has made foundational breakthroughs in AI, and we appreciate his decade of contributions at Google. I’ve deeply enjoyed our many conversations over the years. I’ll miss him, and I wish him well! As one of the first companies to publish AI Principles, we remain committed to a responsible approach to AI. We’re continually learning to understand emerging risks while also innovating boldly.”
Hinton is a notable addition to a group of technologists that have been speaking out publicly about the unbridled development and release of AI.
Tristan Harris and Aza Raskin, the co-founders of the Center for Humane Technology, spoke with “Nightly News” host Lester Holt in March about their own concerns around AI.
“What we want is AI that enriches our lives. AI that works for people, that works for human benefit that is helping us cure cancer, that is helping us find climate solutions,” Harris said during the interview. “We can do that. We can have AI and research labs that’s applied to specific applications that does advance those areas. But when we’re in an arms race to deploy AI to every human being on the planet as fast as possible with as little testing as possible, that’s not an equation that’s going to end well.”
An open letter from the Association for the Advancement of Artificial Intelligence, which was signed by 19 current and former leaders of academic society, was released last month warning the public of the risks around AI and the need for collaboration to mitigate some of those concerns.
“We believe that AI will be increasingly game-changing in healthcare, climate, education, engineering, and many other fields,” the letter said. “At the same time, we are aware of the limitations and concerns about AI advances, including the potential for AI systems to make errors, to provide biased recommendations, to threaten our privacy, to empower bad actors with new tools, and to have an impact on jobs.”
Hinton, along with scientists Yoshua Bengio and Yann LeCun, won the Turing Award in 2019, known as the tech industry’s version of the Nobel Prize, for their advancements in AI.
Hinton, Bengio and LeCun were open about their concerns with AI but were optimistic about the potential of the technology, including detecting health risks earlier than doctors and more accurate weather warnings about earthquakes and floods.
“One thing is very clear, the techniques that we developed can be used for an enormous amount of good affecting hundreds of millions of people,” Hinton previously told The Associated Press.
As with most things, AI in and if itself is not inherently evil and can be a tool of great value. But also as with most things if left unchecked can be very destructive as well.
Twitter threatens legal action against Meta over its new rival app Threads
NEW YORK (AP) — Twitter has threatened legal action against Meta over its new text-based app called Threads, which has drawn tens of millions of users since launching this week as a rival to Elon Musk’s social media platform.
In a letter Wednesday to Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg, Alex Spiro, an attorney representing Twitter, accused Meta of unlawfully using Twitter’s trade secrets and other intellectual property by hiring former Twitter employees to create a “copycat” app.
The move ramps up the tensions between the social media giants after Threads debuted Wednesday, targeting those who are seeking out alternatives to Twitter amid unpopular changes Musk has made to the platform since buying it last year for $44 billion.
Meta spokesperson Andy Stone wrote Thursday on Threads: “No one on the Threads engineering team is a former Twitter employee — that’s just not a thing.”
In the letter, which news website Semafor first reported Thursday, Spiro said Twitter “intends to strictly enforce its intellectual property rights” and noted the company’s right to seek civil remedies or a court injunction.
He said the letter marked a “formal notice” for Meta to preserve documents relevant for a potential dispute between the companies.
In a reply to a tweet about the possibility of legal action against Meta, Musk wrote: “Competition is fine, cheating is not.”
The Associated Press reached out to Spiro on Thursday for further information. Twitter responded to an email seeking comment with a crude automated reply, its standard response to journalists.
New Twitter CEO Linda Yaccarino has not publicly commented on the letter but appeared to address Threads’ launch.
“We’re often imitated — but the Twitter community can never be duplicated,” Yaccarino tweeted.
Some analysts say Meta’s new offering, billed as a text-based version of the photo-sharing app Instagram, could be a significant headache for Twitter — pointing to the excitement surrounding Threads’ launch and impressive download numbers so far.
But success isn’t guaranteed. Industry watchers point to Meta’s track record of starting standalone apps that were later shut down and note that Threads is still in its early days.
Besides some glitches and gripes about missing features, Meta’s new app also has raised data privacy concerns. While Threads launched in more than 100 countries, it is notably unavailable in the European Union, which has strict data privacy rules.
Meta’s new Twitter rival app Threads gets tens of millions of sign-ups in its first day
Tens of millions of people have quickly signed up to Meta’s new app, Threads, as it aims to compete with Twitter — a sign that users are looking for an alternative to the social media platform that has undergone a series of unpopular changes since Elon Musk bought it.
Meta Platforms’ CEO Mark Zuckerberg said Thursday that 30 million people had registered for the app, including 10 million in the first seven hours of its launch Wednesday in the U.S. and over 100 other countries, including Britain, Australia, Canada and Japan.
Threads is billed as a text-based version of Meta’s photo-sharing app Instagram that the company says provides “a new, separate space for real-time updates and public conversations.”
Instagram users can log in with their existing usernames and follow the same accounts on the new app, giving Threads users a ready-made audience and an edge over other Twitter challengers like Bluesky and Mastodon.
“I think I’ll just see — I’ll keep Twitter for a while and then if everyone moves over there (to Threads), then I’ll probably move,” said Javi de Andreas, a 24-year-old researcher in London.
He added that Instagram “feels like a bit more reliable just in terms of nothing really changes.”
There was plenty of excitement among Threads users about the opportunity to make a fresh start on a new social media app, giving Threads a “first day of school” vibe.
Early adopters included celebrities like chef Gordon Ramsay, pop star Shakira and actor Jack Black as well as Airbnb, Guinness World Records, Netflix, Vogue magazine and other media outlets.
There were also glitches, annoyance about the lack of a chronological feed and gripes about missing features — raising the question of whether the initial burst of interest would lead to sustained growth that could pose a meaningful challenge to Twitter.
“The euphoria around a new service and this initial explosion will probably settle down,” said Paolo Pescatore, a technology analyst at PP Foresight. “But it is apparent that this alternative is here to stay and will prove to be a worthy rival given all of Twitter’s woes.”
Teething problems for Threads include Zuckerberg’s posts — or Threads as they’re dubbed — not loading in several countries. But his replies to other users did appear.
Instagram CEO Adam Mosseri acknowledged the early issues.
“The real test is not if we can build up a lot of hype, but if you all find enough value in the app to keep using it ove time,” Mosseri posted in a thread.
“And there are tons of basics that are missing: search, hashtags, a following feed” and direct messaging, he said. “We’re on it,” but ”it’ll take time.”
Threads does have buttons to like, repost, reply to or quote a thread, and users see the number of likes and replies a post has received. Posts are limited to 500 characters, which is more than Twitter’s 280-character threshold for most users, and can include links, photos and videos up to five minutes long.
Some questioned whether it made sense to seek to combine Twitter and Instagram users, which are two distinct online groups. Twitter is tailored for quick and short updates, while Instagram is best for visually creative posts.
“Some people will want to keep it separate from Instagram for numerous and very good reasons,” Pescatore said. “This is something that Meta might have to address, which could halt its progress.”
Meta’s new offering also has raised data privacy concerns. The company has held off on rolling it out in the European Union, citing regulatory uncertainty.
The 27-nation EU has strict data privacy rules and is set to start enforcing a new set of digital rules aimed at clamping down on Big Tech companies and limiting what they can do with users’ personal information.
Threads could collect a wide range of personal information, including health, financial, contacts, browsing and search history, location data, purchases and “sensitive info,” according to its data privacy disclosure on the App Store.
Threads poses a fresh headache for Musk, who acquired Twitter last year for $44 billion. Analysts said combining Twitter-style features with Instagram’s look and feel would drive user engagement.
Musk has made a series of changes that have triggered backlash, the latest being daily limits on the number of tweets people can view to try to stop unauthorized scraping of potentially valuable data.
You can get help for that if you so choose. I've been watching Twitter devolve ever since Musk purchased it. I didn't need an article to tell me that. I've watched as he has allowed lies, conspiracy theories and the clutter that's tearing our nation apart be posted there. It's not my fault you haven't been paying attention.
What does that have to do with anything? You do realize up until a few days ago you could view Tweets and accounts without being a member, correct? So I've seen some of the wacko stuff that's been permitted back on there since he purchased it. Anyone could find out who he allowed back on there and how much value Twitter lost. So while you're reaching to try and make a point, you really don't have a point.
My point is Twitter has ALWAYS been a platform filled with people lying (politicians and otherwise), hate, conspiracy theories, "wacko stuff", etc. virtually since it's existence. This angle being spread that Twitter has just only now been riddled with this since Musk took over is being sold by journalists and clowns and sheep everywhere willingly soak it up because it makes feel warm and fuzzy inside, politically.
Anybody, and I mean anybody, who has had an account for years prior to Musk taking over would say the same. If not, they are lying. To claim that this came about all of a sudden because someone else bought Twitter, who you don't like, is stupid and uninformed. This is why I asked if you have an account, which clearly you don't. If you did, you would know this. I'll venture to say that you never even had an inclination to routinely look at twitter or tweets of people pre-Musk because the slanted articles you read never addressed it until the sale was made a political issue. You'll let the articles and journalists dictate your viewpoints for you because you don't have a broader understanding of twitter over the years.
So my original comment still stands and enjoy blindly following this topic.
There was a much larger effort to keep it in check before Musk took over. No, it certainly wasn't stopped, but there was an effort to contain it and that effort was at least partly successful. There was far less of it and it wasn't welcomed and embraced with open arms. Enjoy believing what I posted isn't true. I know places like the Babylon Bee which is owned by the supposed Christian entrepreneur named Seth Dillon is one of your favorite places but his rhetoric was stopped on there too.
These formerly banned Twitter accounts have been reinstated since Elon Musk took over
Elon Musk promised to bring former former president Donald Trump back to Twitter once he took over the social media platform. Over the weekend, the Tesla CEO made good on the promise, reinstating Trump's account after a slim majority of respondents to an online poll by Musk voted for Trump's return.
As of Monday, the handle @realDonaldTrump boasted 87 million followers. It has not posted a tweet since Jan. 8, 2021.The former president is one of several one-time pariahs who have been welcomed back under Twitter's new management, along with other formerly banned accounts. Following is a list of accounts that have been restored to Twitter in recent days.
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene
The Republican congresswoman's personal account was banned in January for violating the platform's COVID misinformation policies at the time. Greene had criticized COVID-19 vaccines as ineffective and railed against policies mandating vaccination and masking in public spaces.
Greene's personal Twitter account was reinstated as of Monday afternoon. She posted the news from her official congressional Twitter account, @RepMTG.
"I'm the only Member of Congress the unelected big tech oligarchs permanently banned," Greene tweeted. "My account is back. Go follow @mtgreenee for MTG unfiltered ;)"
Babylon Bee
The satirical right-wing outlet was suspended in March after tweeting an anti-trans joke about Assistant Health Secretary Rachel Levine. That month, USA Today named Levine a top "Woman of the Year"; the Bee responded by naming Levine "Man of the Year," violating Twitter's hateful conduct policy.
Regaining access to Twitter at the time required the publication to delete the offensive tweet, but the Babylon Bee refused.
"Truth is not hate speech. If the cost of telling the truth is the loss of our Twitter account, then so be it. We won't compromise the truth just to keep our account," CEO Seth Dillon wrote March 22.
After the Bee's account came back on Friday, the publication tweeted: "We're back. Let that sink in." Kathy Griffin
The comedian was thrown off Twitter November 6 after she impersonated Elon Musk, changing her Twitter name to his.
After Griffin was banned, Musk announced a new Twitter policy, saying: "Going forward, any Twitter handles engaging in impersonation without clearly specifying 'parody' will be permanently suspended."
During her lockout, Griffin took over her late mother, Maggie Griffin's account, to demand her reinstatement. "I'm back from the grave to say…#FreeKathy #TipIt," the account tweeted. (It has since been hidden.)
Musk announced on November 18 that Griffin had regained access to her Twitter account. Griffin responded on Instagram, calling out Musk for misspelling of her name, tweeting:
"Dear Eilon. You f**ked up, fool. I'm going downstairs to my basement of heads. You're up. Xxoo, The Beheader 💅" Jordan Peterson
The conservative psychologist and self-help author was suspended this summer, before Musk's takeover. Peterson had referred to actor Elliott Page by his former name, which violates Twitter's policies on harassment.
After his suspension, Peterson declared in a 15-minute video that he would not delete the offending tweet in order to regain access to his account, concluding with the defiant line: "Up yours, woke moralists. We'll see who cancels who!"
Reinstated on November 18, Peterson thanked Musk with a photo from "The Shining."
Peterson then immediately called for anonymous accounts on the platform to be eliminated, saying that "anonymous troll-demons" should be put "in their own hell." The tweet prompted Twitter founder Jack Dorsey to weigh in and say eliminating anonymity "would be a big mistake."
Andrew Tate
The kickboxer-turned-internet personality was banned from Twitter in 2017 after controversial tweets saying that women should bear "some responsibility" for being sexually assaulted.
"Sexual harassment is disgusting and inexcusable. However. A man looking at you or whistling at you or asking your name isn't harassment," Tate tweeted, according to Metro. "Take some personal responsibility. This zero blame game is damaging to the female cause as a whole. Protect yourselves," he said. Tate has also said that women "are given to the man and belong to the man" and proclaimed he would rather date a 19-year-old woman than a 26-year-old because the younger woman has "been through less dick."
Earlier this year, Tate was banned from Instagram, Facebook and TikTok after a viral Instagram post that said Tate was teaching boys to be violent misogynists.
After regaining Twitter access, Tate posted a video of himself smoking a cigar on an airplane, saying he was flying to California in order to "walk into Twitter HW and tell @elonmusk he's a legend." Project Veritas
The conservative media group — known for producing undercover videos that purport to show liberal bias in the press — was suspended from Twitter in 2021 for disclosing people's private information, a charge it denied.
The group's account had been reinstated on Sunday. It posted a message of gratitude:
"Thank you @ElonMusk for reinstating the Project Veritas Twitter account and for standing up for real investigative journalism," the group said. It teased a Nov. 29 release featuring a "brave whistleblower inside the federal government" speaking about child trafficking. Ye
The rapper formerly known as Kanye West returned to Twitter on Sunday.
"Testing Testing Seeing if my Twitter is unblocked," Ye wrote Sunday afternoon. Musk responded shortly after, writing, "Don't kill what ye hate / Save what ye love."
Ye was locked out of his Twitter account in October after violating Twitter's policies. The rapper had posted several antisemitic statements, including a now-deleted Tweet about "going def con 3 on Jewish people." Will anti-Trump users leave Twitter?
Changes on the platform have led some high-profile users to call it quits.
Musician Jack White over the weekend deactivated the Twitter account of his label, Third Man Records. In an Instagram post explaining the decision, White called Trump's reinstatement "absolutely disgusting."
"You intend to give platforms to known liars and wash your hands like pontius pilate and claim no responsibility?" White said. "[T]his is straight up you trying to help a fascist have a platform so you can eventually get your tax breaks. I mean, how many more billions do you need that you have to risk democracy itself to obtain it?"
White praised Musk's work with Tesla and said he was a supporter of that effort, but said that welcoming Trump back showed that Musk had gone "too far."
"I am a believer in free speech, but for example I'm not about to let the KKK hold a rally at our record label's performance stage," White said.
Twitter traffic is ‘tanking’ as Meta’s Threads hits 100 million users
User traffic on Twitter has slowed since the launch of Meta
User traffic on Twitter has slowed since the launch of Meta’s text-based platform Threads, which has already surpassed 100 million sign-ups since its debut last week.
Threads launched in the U.S. on Wednesday and is being touted by Meta executives like Instagram chief Adam Mosseri as a more positive “public square” for communities “that never really embraced Twitter.” So far, users seem to be on board.
“Threads reached 100 million sign ups over the weekend. That’s mostly organic demand and we haven’t even turned on many promotions yet. Can’t believe it’s only been 5 days!” Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg said in a post Monday.
Twitter appears to have taken a hit. Matthew Prince, CEO of Cloudflare, shared a screenshot to Twitter Sunday showing that traffic on the platform was “tanking.”
According to Similarweb, a data company that specializes in web analytics, web traffic to Twitter was down 5% for the first two full days Threads was generally available compared with the previous week. The company said Twitter’s web traffic is down 11% compared with the same days in 2022.
Twitter responded to CNBC’s request for comment with an automated response. Meta didn’t offer additional comment beyond Zuckerberg’s post.
The booming growth on Threads is helped by the fact that it is tied to an existing social network, Meta’s Instagram. Users can sign up with their existing handles on Instagram and are able to retain some of their following as others sign up for the app.
Threads reached the 100 million milestone even faster than OpenAI’s generative chatbot ChatGPT, which surpassed 100 million monthly users in two months.
The app still has lots of room to grow, having not yet launched in Europe, where Mosseri said there is still some regulatory complexity to navigate. If Threads is able to retain its userbase, it could solidify its position as a real competitor for Twitter, which reported nearly 238 million monetizable daily active users in its last quarterly earnings report as public company last summer.
Twitter owner Elon Musk appears to have already shown some concern about Threads, as his longtime lawyer Alex Spiro wrote a letter to Meta accusing the company of “unlawful misappropriation” of trade secrets.
Musk and Zuckerberg were also taking shots at one another over the weekend, as Zuckerberg mocked Musk’s tweet style and Musk called Zuckerberg a derogatory name.
In the most childish news of the week...............
Someone's got to put an end to the Musk vs. Zuck billionaire 'dick measuring contest' before Elon gets his ruler out
Twitter user @elonmusk, who happens to own the social media platform, took to the interwebs on Sunday night to do what some men might have done in the wild days of their riotous, unbridled youth: Suggest a "dick measuring contest."
Yep, complete with a ruler emoji and all.
And the competitor Musk wants to measure up to? None other than jiu-jitsu enthusiast Mark Zuckerberg, Meta founder and the target of Musk's ire long before Threads launched.
It's unclear what sparked the sudden interest on Musk's part in whipping out a ruler to quash his Zuckerberg beef. But Musk was tweeting about penises an awful lot over the weekend, so maybe he had his own measurements in mind.
It's worth noting that this contest is nothing more than a proposal so far, and Zuck, as of press time, has not responded. But the cage match Musk suggested in June also started out as a joke — at least until Zuckerberg took the bait and asked Musk to send over the location for fight night. No concrete details have been firmed up for the fight, though a pay-per-view Zuck-man vs. Chief Twit brawl is far preferable to the genuinely heinous folly Musk is now suggesting.
Should Zuck decide to throw down his fly — and given how high he must be on the launch of Threads right now, there's no guarantee he won't — someone, anyone, would really need to step in. Is this our future? Billionaires, unbound by laws, sending us pictures of their hogs? This aggression cannot stand.
Perhaps there could be a rational referee — maybe Maye Musk, who's been trying to prevent her son from throwing down with Zuckerberg in the Vegas Octagon — to end this madness? She's been known to scold her son occasionally, so maybe she can make him see reason where no one else can.
Good luck, Momma Musk; you're the hero we need in this darkest of timelines.
Neither of us, nor most true alphas are above a dick measuring contest, the difference being we actually have one with the balls to throw it out there… just saying. This is more of a cuck fight. A hard woman like Ronda Rousey would clean the floor with both of them and probably ‘measure up’ bigger too. #Facts.
And if that cage match ever happens, Zuck wins hands down. Elon looks like an overstuffed 50 year old pastry puff comparatively. He should never be seen shirtless again. Yuck.
Twitter, now X, threatens suit against nonprofit studying hate speech and misinformation
Elon Musk’s latest legal adversary: a nonprofit that studies hate speech and misinformation on social media.
On July 20, X Corp., formerly known as Twitter, sent a letter to the Center for Countering Digital Hate, or CCDH, threatening to sue the British research nonprofit. It alleged that the CCDH made “inflammatory, outrageous, and false or misleading assertions about Twitter” and suggested it conspired “to drive advertisers off Twitter by smearing the company and its owner.”
The letter follows CCDH research published in June, which studied the propagation of hate speech on the social media platform since Musk’s buyout. In one report looking at 100 different accounts subscribed to Twitter Blue, CCDH found that X Corp. failed to act on 99% of hate posted by the subscribers and questioned whether the social media platform’s algorithm boosts “toxic tweets.”
Other CCDH research found that the social media company failed to act on 89% of anti-Jewish hate speech and 97% of anti-Muslim hate speech on the platform.
A spokesperson for X did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
This month, Musk said that the social media platform’s cash flow remains negative amid a nearly 50% drop in advertising revenue.
In a release, Imran Ahmed, CEO of the CCDH, said that Musk’s actions attempt to “silence honest criticism and independent research.”
“Advertisers are fleeing his platform for one clear reason: Elon Musk has supported the proliferation of hate and racism on it, and he doesn’t care to stop it,” Ahmed said, adding, “This should be the last time anyone dares to claim Musk is a ‘free speech absolutist.’”
The letter from X Corp. to CCDH is one of a handful of legal threats or actions by the company in recent months.
In May, X Corp. sent a letter to Microsoft
CEO Satya Nadella alleging that the tech giant abused its access to Twitter data and used it “for unauthorized uses and purposes.” In July, the company threatened to sue Meta over its new Threads app, alleging “systematic, willful, and unlawful misappropriation of Twitter’s trade secrets and other intellectual property.” Also in July, X Corp. filed a lawsuit against Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz, the corporate law firm that prevented Musk from backing out of his $44 billion Twitter buyout.
It seems free speech only applies when it's hate speech that you wish to allow being heard. But not when someone points that out. Why do such crazy lawsuits sound so familiar?
I swear him changing it to X just sounds like a dirty video website
Well, he owns it so he can do what he wants I guess. But I don't understand messing with a well established brand. I don't see either the short or long term value.
Nothing unbelievable about it. I never heard anyone saying it wouldn’t happen nor anything about charity. But come on, everybody knew they were serious, and I’d say odds are that Elon goes hard first and get’s dusted. Farcical really, can’t imagine paying for it, even for charity. But hey, enjoy. Or just watch and you’ll probably see it on Celebrity Deathmatch first. Claymation would certainly look better.
Nothing unbelievable about it. I never heard anyone saying it wouldn’t happen nor anything about charity. But come on, everybody knew they were serious, and I’d say odds are that Elon goes hard first and get’s dusted. Farcical really, can’t imagine paying for it, even for charity. But hey, enjoy. Or just watch and you’ll probably see it on Celebrity Deathmatch first. Claymation would certainly look better.
Wasn’t me, I don’t even remember if I looked in that thread. I remember it was being talked about. Those two were being idiots is all I thought and went on about my business. But you Elon Fanboys and Fangirls should really be excited! Enjoy.
Libtards wanted to deny that 1) This would happen 2) Proceeds will go to charity
I guess libtards can suck it!
I'm actually the first person to post about it on the board. I said it had not been made official and until we saw it officially would go to charity let's not jump the gun. But you embody what Republitards do. Tell half the story and then lie about the half you tell. And of course fighting someone half his size sounds just like something Elon would do.
Libtards wanted to deny that 1) This would happen 2) Proceeds will go to charity
I guess libtards can suck it!
I'm actually the first person to post about it on the board. I said it had not been made official and until we saw it officially would go to charity let's not jump the gun. But you embody what Republitards do. Tell half the story and then lie about the half you tell. And of course fighting someone half his size sounds just like something Elon would do.
Yeah, and like usual you don't bother to read the articles you post. You were in denial that they would do this for charity when the article clearly said that's what they will do. Go pour cement, you're better at that than posting on the internet. Here's your L. Enjoy being wrong.
You might wish to look at something to help with your comprehension. I said that you couldn't make that claim based on some statements made before any contracts were even drawn up much less signed. It's funny how when an article says things you don't like it's all fake news. But when an article states something you want to hear you claim it's gospel. Just like you did in this case. Claiming, "Oh yeah, well it was in an article on the internet" doesn't really hold much weight. That's why God created contracts.
Apparently, Musk is claiming to need an MRI on his neck and back before agreeing to a time and place.
At least he didn't choose 'bone spurs. '
There's a link, but I didn't bother with the extra effort. Like I said in my only post about this tawdry side show: "I can't overate how much I'll be ignoring this..."
First it was him claiming he may need surgery before he could fight Zuck. And now it's this latest BS........
Elon Musk is now floating the idea of having a 'noble' debate with Mark Zuckerberg instead of a tech bro cage fight
It looks as if Elon Musk is trying really hard to get out of his cage fight with Mark Zuckerberg.
On Sunday, the billionaire said his fight with Zuckerberg — if it happens — would be live-streamed on his platform, X. But the same day, Musk said he needed to get his neck and upper back examined before fixing a date.
"May require surgery before the fight can happen. Will know this week," Musk tweeted.
And now Musk is floating the idea of having a "noble" debate with Zuckerberg instead of throwing hands. The TED curator Chris Anderson proposed having a "cage match DEBATE" between the two billionaires, and Musk seemed game for it.
"Here's a better idea: a cage match DEBATE 'How to Build an Amazing Future,'" Anderson tweeted on Tuesday.
Musk appeared to agree with the suggestion, tweeting that a debate sounded "like a good idea too."
"This is really fighting as (I believe) a noble sport," Musk replied. "We also hope, with humility, to express our admiration for those who have fought before for noble causes."
Anderson's proposed alternative is similar to what Musk's mother previously suggested he do. Maye Musk tweeted in June that her son and Zuckerberg should "fight with words only" instead of beating each other up.
"A verbal fight only. Three questions each. The funniest answers win. Who agrees?" Maye Musk tweeted in June.
Musk may not have taken his mother's advice then, but he seems to be warming up to the idea now and for a good reason. Musk's chances of beating Zuckerberg in the ring are slim, considering the latter's MMA training and jiu-jitsu medals.
Musk, too, has been realistic about his odds of winning the fight.
"If the fight is short, I probably win. If long, he may win on endurance," Musk tweeted Sunday.
Representatives for Musk at X did not immediately respond to a request for comment from Insider sent outside regular business hours.
I think he realized he'd get his butt kicked. I think Zuckerberg took up ju jitsu during COVID and also recently completed a "Full Murphy" workout. I am in pretty decent shape, but when I do a Murphy workout, it takes me probably 1.5 hours to fully do and more than half of my pullups are assisted/kipped. I think Zuck did the whole thing.
Musk is a lot older and, from his vacation photos, looks to be comparable to the Stay Puffed Marshmallow Man.
"threads was released in early July, and within five days, became the fastest app to reach 100 million downloads — but it has since lost about 85% of its daily active users, said digital analytics firm SimilarWeb. Threads now has fewer than 10 million daily active users; in contrast, X had nearly 238 million daily active users in July 2022. "
I couldn't have called this more accurately if I tried. I guess my 20 years of industry experience pays off.
Historical patterns suggest rate hikes lead to slumping economies more often than not. Former Fed Vice Chair Alan Blinder studied 11 monetary policy tightenings from 1965 to 2022 and found that four ended in a soft landing with stable or lower inflation, and the rest in hard landings.
A newly released report from the United States Federal Reserve found that 64% of Americans have switched to cheaper versions of products to make ends meet amid inflation. Meanwhile, 66% of those polled (respondents could choose more than one option) said they are using less of specific products or eliminating them entirely. That report tracks with Costco’s data in a few ways, showing Americans choosing less pricey products across the board.
In times of economic struggle, Americans tend to change their shopping habits. The “lipstick effect,” where people will continue splurging on smaller items such as candles and cosmetics, but delay larger purchases, is one example. Costco executives have also spotted other consumer spending changes in their warehouse clubs’ sales lately.
Galanti also noted that sales of Costco’s private label brand, which sell for less than national brands, had risen in the last quarter. Overall, Costco sales dropped by 4.2% worldwide, and 3.5% in the U.S., in the first quarter of 2023. A large percentage of that decrease, Galanti said, stems from consumers delaying big ticket purchases like TVs and refrigerators.
You do realize when you state you will refuse to hire certain groups of people, by the very definition of the word that is discrimination, right? It would appear not for some people because they're too busy waving the flag as a reason to excuse such behavior. Maybe they should start to realize that's not what waving the flag means.
I think it sounds perfectly reasonable for a company that executes sensitive missions for the U.S. military... into outer space... should hire undocumented people from anywhere in the world. I mean as long as Biden and his weaponized DOA says so. If they show up and want a job, hire them, it's the only humane thing to do.
Who says they were undocumented? The word "refugees" and they term "asylum seekers" doesn't mean they have no documentation. The actual claim is that they "aren't U.S. citizens". That isn't the same thing.
Disney, Apple among advertisers to pull business on X after Elon Musk's antisemitic post
Warner Bros., Paramount and IBM have also paused advertising on X as Musk faces backlash.
SAN FRANCISCO — Tech billionaire Elon Musk faced a third day of backlash Friday from Jewish leaders, the White House and media advertisers including Disney and Apple after he embraced an antisemitic conspiracy theory earlier in the week, the latest in a pattern of his echoing anti-Jewish bigotry going back years.
Musk sparked the criticism with six words he posted Wednesday afternoon on X, the social media app he purchased a year ago. Responding to another user who had accused Jews of hating white people and who had expressed indifference to antisemitism, Musk wrote: “You have said the actual truth.”
Musk, the CEO of the automaker Tesla and the rocket company SpaceX, followed up his first tweet with criticism of the Anti-Defamation League, or ADL, an organization founded by Jews to oppose antisemitism. Musk has been feuding with the ADL for months over its efforts to reduce extremism on social media, a campaign that Musk says has cost X ad sales.
On Thursday morning, Jonathan Greenblatt, the ADL’s CEO, said Musk was acting dangerously.
“At a time when antisemitism is exploding in America and surging around the world, it is indisputably dangerous to use one’s influence to validate and promote antisemitic theories,” he wrote on X, with a screenshot of Musk’s six-word tweet.
The White House added its condemnation Friday as the backlash continued, saying that Musk had promoted “antisemitic and racist hate” against “our core values as Americans.”
Accounts with histories of espousing anti-Jewish views celebrated Musk’s tweet as welcome news and as confirmation that he agrees with them “on the JQ,” short for “Jewish question,” a term used by antisemites for decades.
“This is old-timey antisemitism with new lingo,” said A.J. Bauer, an assistant professor of journalism who studies right-wing movements and media at the University of Alabama.
Musk announced a content policy Friday that the ADL welcomed, saying that X would suspend accounts that use the phrase “from the river to the sea.” The phrase is popular among many Palestinians, while many Jews say the phrase means the eradication of Israel.
But otherwise, Musk was defiant about his comments earlier in the week. His tweets from Wednesday were still online, and Friday, he posted on X that free speech was at stake and that he would not be pressured.
“I am sticking to my principles!” he replied to one user.
“As for any fake advocacy groups who seek to suppress free speech, they should remember that karma is real,” he added.
A representative for X did not immediately respond to an interview request Friday.
IBM said Thursday it had pulled its advertisements from X. A recent investigation by the progressive organization Media Matters found that advertisements from IBM and other corporations were running on X adjacent to pro-Nazi material.
“IBM has zero tolerance for hate speech and discrimination and we have immediately suspended all advertising on X while we investigate this entirely unacceptable situation,” the company said in a statement. A representative for IBM added that the company was investigating the Media Matters report, not Musk’s posts specifically.
The Walt Disney Company is also pausing spending on X, according to a source with direct knowledge. Its decision was earlier reported by The New York Times. Two other media companies, Paramount Global and Warner Bros. Discovery, said through representatives late Friday that they were pausing, too.
Comcast and NBCUniversal are also holding off on advertising on the X platform, a spokesperson said Friday. (Comcast owns NBCUniversal, which is the parent company of NBC News.)
Apple is also holding off on advertising on X, a person familiar with the matter told CNBC.
The European Commission decided to stop advertising on X over concerns about disinformation, Politico reported Friday. A commission spokesperson did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the report.
Linda Yaccarino, the CEO of X, said on the platform Thursday that antisemitism and discrimination are unacceptable, though she did not directly address Musk’s tweets or IBM’s move.
But you know how it is. If you point out the things one of the wealthiest, and now that he has purchased Twitter, a man who controls a global social network does, somehow the equals "woe is me". Of course some would never speak out against the hateful speech he has opened back up on that platform, including his own antisemitism. Instead somehow it's the problem of those who do point it out. And a lot of us knows just what that means.
So Musk is now going to sue Media Matters for telling the truth. The false reality of the billionaire class rears its ugly head. Or is it using the power of that wealth to drive people bankrupt and apply pressure and force them to keeping quiet by using the advantage of their wealth to do so?
Musk: ‘Thermonuclear lawsuit’ coming for Media Matters, others after companies drop X ads
Tech billionaire Elon Musk said his company will file a massive suit against Media Matters for America and other organizations for a “fraudulent attack on our company.”
Musk’s threat comes after several companies began pulling ads from his X platform, formerly known as Twitter.
The wave of departures started Thursday after the billionaire owner engaged with antisemitic rhetoric on the platform. The same day, Media Matters — a liberal media watchdog group — published an investigation showing that major advertisers had their ads shown alongside white supremacist content.
Multiple major companies, including IBM, Lionsgate, Paramount, Apple and Disney said they are leaving X, formerly Twitter. The European Union will also halt advertising, it announced.
“The split second court opens on Monday, X Corp will be filing a thermonuclear lawsuit against Media Matters and ALL those who colluded in this fraudulent attack on our company,” Musk wrote on X.
A statement attached to his post alleges the Media Matters report “completely misrepresented the real user experience” on the platform in an attempt to “mislead advertisers.”
The company further claimed the group’s reporters curated an account to view white supremacist content and “repeatedly refreshed their feeds to find rare instances of ads” next to the content. Musk’s post added that of the 5.5 billion ad impressions on the site daily, just 50 were on the specific pieces of content highlighted by Media Matters in their report.
X has struggled for months with revenue after half of the company’s top advertisers left following Musk’s takeover in late 2022. Advertisers have been wary of the platform since he loosened content restrictions — open the door for more hateful content on the platform.
Musk has emphasized X as a “free speech platform,” which the company doubled down on in the statement Saturday.
“Without freedom of speech, we lose the checks and balances critical to a thriving democracy,” the company said. “We must defend our individual rights as if our lives, and flourishing society, depend on it.”
“If you’re really in on protecting free speech, then we all need to protect it completely,” the statement continued.
edia Matters derided the lawsuit threat in a statement Saturday.
“Far from the free speech advocate he claims to be, Musk is a bully who threatens meritless lawsuits in an attempt to silence reporting that he even confirmed is accurate,” president Angelo Carusone said. “Musk admitted the ads at issue ran alongside the pro-Nazi content we identified. If he does sue us, we will win.”
Yey …. for truth and freedom of speech ….until you say something stupid and hurt yourself. Then he’s gonna sue!? Lol for someone I used to think he was a genius in what he was accomplishing, is now acting like a self destructive teenager. Maybe brain damage of some sort. IDK
But you know how it is. If you point out the things one of the wealthiest, and now that he has purchased Twitter, a man who controls a global social network does, somehow the equals "woe is me". Of course some would never speak out against the hateful speech he has opened back up on that platform, including his own antisemitism. Instead somehow it's the problem of those who do point it out. And a lot of us knows just what that means.
But you know how it is. If you point out the things one of the wealthiest, and now that he has purchased Twitter, a man who controls a global social network does, somehow the equals "woe is me". Of course some would never speak out against the hateful speech he has opened back up on that platform, including his own antisemitism. Instead somehow it's the problem of those who do point it out. And a lot of us knows just what that means.
It means Hitlerism is alive and well in America
Yeah, all those anti-sematic libtards stomping their feet and chanting pro-hamas chants.
But you know how it is. If you point out the things one of the wealthiest, and now that he has purchased Twitter, a man who controls a global social network does, somehow the equals "woe is me". Of course some would never speak out against the hateful speech he has opened back up on that platform, including his own antisemitism. Instead somehow it's the problem of those who do point it out. And a lot of us knows just what that means.
It means Hitlerism is alive and well in America
Yeah, all those anti-sematic libtards stomping their feet and chanting pro-hamas chants.
Lol yeah Liberal Arts colleges. Kids protesting. And we got a degree for that in the 60’s.
It's odd how they have been ignoring white extremist hate groups for years. Ignoring white extremist mouth pieces in the media. They ignored "Jews will not replace us!" in Charlottesville. Nazi flags waved by trump supporters outside of Mia Largo. And now all of a sudden they're standing up for the Jewish people. Strange how that's all played out.
I remember a time we all could tell the difference between kids protesting on their campus for peace in Palestine and the Middle East vs American Nazi’s entered a city that they didn’t live in chanting jews will not replace us and violently rioting, armed with flag poles. clubs and running down counter protesters with a 3000 pound automobile killing one. Good people on both sides BS.
Why did you wait years and years for some college students to say these things before you decided to show any outrage over it? Right wing white supremacists have been doing this for many years now. Right wing media figures have been saying antisemitic things for years now. The KKK has been doing it for decades now. Yet not a peep from you on here about any of it. Suddenly you've found your voice?
That’s an American Nazi chant. A radical Muslim wish. And we’ve been ignoring them for years. Why the sudden enthusiasm towards students or other liberals doing the same? I agree it’s horrendous and I don’t agree with their sediments. But you do know, we have that free speech thingy called the first amendment.
Why did you wait years and years for some college students to say these things before you decided to show any outrage over it? Right wing white supremacists have been doing this for many years now. Right wing media figures have been saying antisemitic things for years now. The KKK has been doing it for decades now. Yet not a peep from you on here about any of it. Suddenly you've found your voice?
I don't agree with the right fringe groups, but they are fringe groups. Not like the hundreds of thousands of anti-semetic protestors protesting every day and splattered all over the news every day. Why aren't you complaining about them? Where's your voice about these people chanting for the death of jews and elimination of Israel?
I have stated that I think anyone that calls for such things are wrong for many years now. But one thing you seem not to understand is that by and large they are protesting the senseless deaths of innocent Palestinian civilians.
So for the extremists on the fringe I am an agreement with you. For those protesting the senseless deaths of indiscriminate bombings that are causing thousands of unneeded deaths of Palestinian civilians I agree with them.
You see, I have for several years on this board spoke out against hateful and antisemitic rhetoric aimed towards the Jewish people. It seems as though you are just now becoming woke to the issue. But better late than never I always say.
“Media Matters accessed accounts that had been active for at least 30 days, bypassing X’s ad filter for new users,” X’s lawsuit says. “Media Matters then exclusively followed a small subset of users consisting entirely of accounts in one of two categories: those known to produce extreme, fringe content, and accounts owned by X’s big-name advertisers. The end result was a feed precision-designed by Media Matters for a single purpose: to produce side-by-side ad/content placements that it could screenshot in an effort to alienate advertisers. But this activity still was not enough to create the pairings of advertisements and content that Media Matters aimed to produce.”
“Media Matters therefore resorted to endlessly scrolling and refreshing its unrepresentative, hand-selected feed, generating between 13 and 15 times more advertisements per hour than viewed by the average X user repeating this inauthentic activity until it finally received pages containing the result it wanted: controversial content next to X’s largest advertisers’ paid posts,” the lawsuit continued.
Media Matters has shown that it happens. Saying it doesn't happen often won't change that. Of course Elon is going to sue and make claims to the contrary. Haven't you been paying attention to how this works? The Nazi is the one who is supported a Nazi post on his own platform.
But it does. You see, what they did was to bypass a new user ad filter. So that means anyone who isn't a new user would see the same things. Secondly, if you want to see if and which ads appear on fringe posts, you follow those fringe posters. And scrolling and refreshing is what one does to get the results based on many clicks to see if these ads appear. This is just another twisted white noise tactic to excuse and undermine that fact that these advertisers risk their ads being presented with these fringe posts on a daily basis. And nothing in your post changes that.
But I would expect you to help stand up for excuses to the contrary.
No Pit, that is not what it means at all. You're entirely misunderstanding what's going on here. The manipulation of pages to basically 'invent' something that would never happen under normal circumstances, then represent it as something that is normal and recurring is 100% defamation.
When did they say "it's normal"? I haven't seen that. They certainly didn't "invent" anything. While it may not happen with frequency it does happen and companies take that risk when they advertise there. As far as I know they have made no claim to the contrary. I see that's "the claim" being made by Musk but I have not seen anything that supports that claim.
Billionaires don't always win in court. As a matter of fact we've witnessed one lose over and over and over again.
Those fearing Elon for AI should. His AI grok or whatever it’s called is just a redneck racist AI with few safety barriers. I used to love the guy but he’s full on fascist these days. Would have loved to see Zuck stomp mud hole in his ass.
Those fearing Elon for AI should. His AI grok or whatever it’s called is just a redneck racist AI with few safety barriers. I used to love the guy but he’s full on fascist these days. Would have loved to see Zuck stomp mud hole in his ass.
Elon has been among one of the larger investors and founders of AI in the last 20 years. Tesla, OpenAI etc etc.
Elon has been begging for government regulation of AI not the opposite. Companies like Google, OpenAI, and Facebook do not want regulation.
Those fearing Elon for AI should. His AI grok or whatever it’s called is just a redneck racist AI with few safety barriers. I used to love the guy but he’s full on fascist these days. Would have loved to see Zuck stomp mud hole in his ass.
Elon has been among one of the larger investors and founders of AI in the last 20 years. Tesla, OpenAI etc etc.
Elon has been begging for government regulation of AI not the opposite. Companies like Google, OpenAI, and Facebook do not want regulation.
Man stop it. Elon has been talking out of both sides of his mouth. He “warns” the world about AI while actively developing it. Elon wants regulations on AI that same way he claimed he’s all about free speech.
And we know how that’s currently going. Man’s bought a social media platform and started banning people left and right cause his feelings got hurt.
He's definitely whimsical. There seems to be a pattern amongst billionaires, from the Kochs and Soros, to Musk and Zuckerberg, which is "We need to have equal rights and footing for all, but I get to decide what that means and how it applies."
Those fearing Elon for AI should. His AI grok or whatever it’s called is just a redneck racist AI with few safety barriers. I used to love the guy but he’s full on fascist these days. Would have loved to see Zuck stomp mud hole in his ass.
Elon has been among one of the larger investors and founders of AI in the last 20 years. Tesla, OpenAI etc etc.
Elon has been begging for government regulation of AI not the opposite. Companies like Google, OpenAI, and Facebook do not want regulation.
Man stop it. Elon has been talking out of both sides of his mouth. He “warns” the world about AI while actively developing it. Elon wants regulations on AI that same way he claimed he’s all about free speech.
US signs onto AI safety accord Share By Emma W. Thorne, Editor at LinkedIn News Updated 4 hours ago
In an historic move, the U.S. and 17 other nations have signed onto the first-ever international AI safety agreement. The 20-page document outlines some general recommendations — such as vetting potential software suppliers — and encourages companies to make their AI systems "secure by design," to protect the public from bad actors. Like many recent government actions on AI, including the Biden administration's October executive order, the agreement is nonbinding and does not specify penalties for noncompliance. The U.K., Germany, Italy and Nigeria are among the signatories.
So you keep simping for a dude who constantly contradicts himself. For every article that Elon warns of something, there’s another showing him engaging in the very thing he’s warning people over. I’m struggling to understand how you can blatantly ignore the the facts that this guy is trying to ‘warn’ people about the crapes trying to pull off. He says one thing and does another. If AI is such a threat, why is he continuing to make it worse? He was supposed to champion free speech, yet bans people who hurts his feelings. I’m guessing you ignored that too.
Like seriously SBD, if I told you street racing was bad while simultaneously developing tech to make street racing more popular, you wouldn’t see anything wrong with that?
Don’t you conservatives clown politicians and other elites for warning about climate change while they fly around in their private jets?
But somehow Elon gets a pass. Sorry bro but this is pathetic. I really don’t get you guys boot licking these billionaires who want to screw you over. Gotta be some sort of fetish on the right.
Elon Musk deletes ‘Pizzagate’ meme following widespread backlash
Billionaire Elon Musk on Tuesday took down a post from his account on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter, that embraced a years-old false conspiracy theory about child sex trafficking after the tech and media mogul received widespread backlash and mockery.
Musk’s posts contained a humor-based sequence of images, informally known as a meme, promoting the debunked notion that a child sex ring had been operating out of a pizza parlor in Washington, D.C.
“Pizzagate,” as the conspiracy theory became known across the internet, resulted in a man opening fire on the pizza parlor in 2016.
Musk posted that it “does seem at least a little suspicious,” in reference to the meme, which claimed “Pizzagate is real” and that the expert who debunked the conspiracy “went to jail for child porn.”
The billionaire’s post was met Tuesday with widespread pushback from media and technology watchdogs.
It came just a day after Musk returned from Israel, where he toured a kibbutz attacked by Hamas on Oct. 7, with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
Musk had sparked similar outrage earlier this month over antisemitic remarks he made on X, which have resulted in a mass exodus of advertisers from the platform.
Musk, whose account holds some 164 million followers, frequently posts on the platform and interacts with far-right users and accounts promoting fringe ideas.
In October of last year, he deleted a tweet promoting a conspiracy theory about an assault on Paul Pelosi, the husband of former Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.).
The problem being there are a small portion of idiots that wield a lot more power than the vast majority of them. Those are the one's you have to be careful of on both sides.
Well obviously you don’t understand his genius. He’s a visionary like Kanye, so the sheep will never get it. We should be praising our lord and savior Elon.
I own a Tesla, and some of his conduct is already making me regret it. The guy is truly a nut. He'll do some things where I'm like "yeah, go Elon!" like when he delivered Spacex to Ukraine, and challenged Putin to a bout, despite how crazy that was. Then sometimes he does things - like all the recent stuff - where he is just the worst...
I own a Tesla, and some of his conduct is already making me regret it. The guy is truly a nut. He'll do some things where I'm like "yeah, go Elon!" like when he delivered Spacex to Ukraine, and challenged Putin to a bout, despite how crazy that was. Then sometimes he does things - like all the recent stuff - where he is just the worst...
The right has a conundrum on their hands. They have to square the phrase ‘go woke, go broke’ with their lord and savior Elon, who is whining about ‘woke’ corporations making X go broke by removing their ads.
What is so strange to me is the guy just recently talked about the potential unionization of Tesla factory workers by saying something along the lines of "If Tesla gets unionized, it's because we deserve it" meaning that they (he/corporate) failed in some way.
Then on Twitter, he acts like a completely clueless jackass, causing advertisers to leave, but it's everyone else's fault?
Walmart is the latest advertiser to pull ads from Elon Musk’s X
Walmart confirmed on Friday that it is not advertising on X, the social media platform owned by Elon Musk and formerly known as Twitter.
“We aren’t advertising on X as we’ve found other platforms to better reach our customers,” a Walmart spokesperson said.
Reuters first reported Walmart’s move.
A number of prominent brands paused their advertising on X, last month following Musk’s public embrace of an antisemitic conspiracy theory favored by White supremacists. Incendiary remarks
Musk apologized Wednesday for what he called his “dumbest” ever social media post. But he lashed out at advertisers leaving his platform.
“I don’t want them to advertise,” Musk said at the New York Times DealBook Summit in New York. “If someone is going to blackmail me with advertising or money go f**k yourself. Go. F**k. Yourself,” he said.
The advertising exodus included media companies like Disney, Paramount, NBCUniversal, Comcast, Lionsgate and Warner Bros. Discovery, the parent of CNN. Ongoing damage control
Musk visited Israel this week, where he went to a Kibbutz attacked by Hamas on October 7, spoke with families of Israeli hostages and met with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and President Isaac Herzog.
But Musk said on Wednesday that his trip to Israel “wasn’t an apology tour,” and that “it wasn’t in response to all of that.” Musk said that he is a good person but he’s not going to “tap dance” to show people that.
Sometimes people and businesses do the right thing and sometimes they do the wrong thing. Unlike some I'm willing to recognize both. But then you have a meme.
“I mean, look, I’m sorry for that … post,” Musk said, per CNN. “It was foolish of me. Of the 30,000 it might be literally the worst and dumbest post I’ve ever done. And I’ve tried my best to clarify six ways from Sunday, but you know at least I think it’ll be obvious that in fact far from being antisemitic, I’m in fact philosemitic.”
Yeah right… He can say or do anything. His billionaire status buys him rights the rest of us never get to enjoy, like lying his ass off and expecting to be believed.
Idk, Swish & Pit, but it’s sad to see a guy who used to act progressive and was admired by many sink so low. And to think, I almost pulled the trigger on a Tesla. I’m so happy covid nixed that for me. I’d just be sick if I put that kind of money in this new Fascist Elon’s pockets.
Please try and keep up, they haven't made Datsuns since the early 80's.. They are Nissans now and what's wrong with that. They are great cars. The Z, The GT-r and The Maxima are well built and fast. In addition, many Nissans are made right in the USA by American Workers. So what is your problem?
If I wanted to afford a passion project car it’d be a 1977 Datsun 280z or 240z. So damn good looking. Both of them. I currently own a 2002 Nissan Frontier 4x4. Manufactured in Tennessee. It’s a workhorse with 168,000 miles in it. It’s not my daily driver anymore so I can keep it on the road for another decade or so as my music festival, Burning Man, hardware/lumberyard vehicle.
Are you clueless? Do you need to buy a vowel? Do you need to phone a friend for a clue? The poster was congratulating himself on not buying a Tesla. Tesla is American jobs and manufacturing. And AMERICAN OWNED. Not feeding American money to a foreign entity.
Actually there isn’t enough Americans to fill the current job market. Maybe if we opened our southern borders to immigration again we could bring back American manufacturing like it used to be before we sent it all to Asia.
Face it man, she's just poking at people because she thinks the fact she's driving a status symbol makes here better then other people. She thinks like Elon. I'm surprised she didn't buy a Tesla.
Are you clueless? Do you need to buy a vowel? Do you need to phone a friend for a clue? The poster was congratulating himself on not buying a Tesla. Tesla is American jobs and manufacturing. And AMERICAN OWNED. Not feeding American money to a foreign entity.
Fascists are not American, like Elon/Tesla. He might as well have put out a model with a swastika on its hood. He won’t be selling a lot of those to progressives, but I’m not surprised Eve sticks up for him.
And Eve, some Datsuns are classic. But I don’t actually like them myself. That doesn’t mean others don’t like them. Or that they are not worthy of being liked.
Senators demand Musk correct ‘apparent false and misleading representations’ of Tesla safety
Sens. Ed Markey (D-Mass.) and Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.) went after Elon Musk on Thursday, demanding that the Tesla owner correct false statements about the safety of the company’s vehicles.
The letter comes after a report from Reuters last week found the company knowingly deployed defective parts to customers for years, avoiding recalls and potentially putting customers at risk.
“This reporting puts your statement from January that ‘Teslas are the safest car on the road’ at stark contrast with reality,” the senators wrote. “We call on you to swiftly recall all Tesla components that pose a safety risk and correct the record with NHTSA to ensure it can properly do its job,” they continued, referring to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA).
The impacted parts included suspension connectors and power steering parts, which are both crucial to vehicle safety.
The investigation also found that Tesla often blamed customers for damage caused by defective parts and attempted to mislead federal safety regulators with incomplete data.
“In light of these apparent false and misleading representations, we demand that you correct the record in every respect and that you commit to providing accurate and truthful statements in the future,” the senators continued. “The credibility and reputation of your company is at stake — and even more importantly, the safety of motorists and others on the roads.”
“As you are well aware, no company is above the law,” they warned.
Tesla has been racked with safety investigations in recent months. The company recalled most of the vehicles it has ever produced earlier this month for a digital update to its Autopilot software over claims that it is unsafe.
In July, the NHTSA questioned Tesla over a “secret” Autopilot feature allowing drivers to use the software without placing their hands on the wheel, dubbed “Elon mode” after the company’s owner — billionaire Elon Musk.
“The resulting relaxation of controls designed to ensure that the driver remain engaged in the dynamic driving task could lead to greater driver inattention and failure of the driver to properly supervise Autopilot,” the agency wrote.
The California attorney general began its own investigation into the safety of Autopilot software and Tesla vehicles in July.
I almost made the same mistake. I’m glad I talked myself out of the earlier models and decided to wait until the tech was more established. When Elon went to the dark side, I dodged a bullet.
Remember when the FBI paid Twitter $3,415,323 to censor users?
The FBI said it was a lie. Then when the evidence came out they said they didn't pay Twitter to censor them, just to find them.
Y'all let me know when you want more facts.
That actually makes sense, though, doesn't it? The FBI probably wants to know their whereabouts and whatnot and string together its own investigations. Now, if the correspondence actually came out that said the FBI said "ban them for $3.4M" and the FBI then tried to change that fact around afterward, then yeah, it's a bad look.
All that being said, Twitter is garbage now. It's so overrun by bots that it's ridiculous. When you look at any post that goes viral, the first 10-20 comments under it are just bots with replies that have almost nothing to do with the subject at hand, trying to get more clicks/views.
It's stupid now. I just try to follow it for Sports updates. It's going down the MySpace path.
I'm kind of going down a tangent now, but one of our downfalls lately is buyouts. They almost never make it better for the consumer. There is the great defense industry merger that happened in the 80's and we've been getting gouged to high heaven ever since. The breweries all sold out. Cigar City for instance is garbage compared to when it was "small town." Twitter sucks. Private equity groups are destroying all kinds of name brands like locusts.
Deadline Elon Musk “Mad” At Don Lemon, Dumps Ex-CNN Anchor’s New X Show After One-On-One Sit-Down Dominic Patten Wed, March 13, 2024 at 12:57 PM CDT·3 min read 19
Elon Musk may not like talking with Don Lemon about all the lawsuits against him, but the world’s second richest man could be facing possible new legal action after “canceling” the ex-CNN anchor’s much hyped new show on X just days before its debut.
“Elon Musk is mad at me, and I just put out a statement about what happened between him, me and the interview that he is apparently so upset about,” said Lemon in a video on the platform once known as Twitter:
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The not-so-shocking news of the erratic X owner dumping The Don Lemon Show, which had been set to debut on March 18, came less than 24 hours after the unveiling of Musk as the first guest.
Covering uneasy topics like the various lawsuits against Musk, the legal actions Musk himself has instigated, and the billionaire’s drug use, among others I’m told, the March 8 filmed sit-down with Musk clearly got under the billionaire’s thin skin.
Which means, instead of joining fellow fired anchor Tucker Carlson in a social media resurrection, the UTA-repped Lemon may find himself taking legal action over the cancellation to ensure he is paid the monies due to him. Given the deal with X announced early this year, Lemon could be seeking a pay-out somewhere in the mid-seven figures.
X released a statement saying that Lemon’s show “is welcome to publish its content on X, without censorship, as we believe in providing a platform for creators to scale their work and connect with new communities. However, like any enterprise, we reserve the right to make decisions about our business partnerships, and after careful consideration, X decided not to enter into a commercial partnership with the show.”
Musk himself responded, writing that Lemon’s “approach was basically just ‘CNN, but on social media’, which doesn’t work, as evidenced by the fact that CNN is dying. And, instead of it being the real Don Lemon, it was really just Jeff Zucker talking through Don, so lacked authenticity.”
This morning, Lemon provided a lot of details about what went down:
That’s a far cry from January when Lemon was brimming with praise for Musk and X, calling the social media platform “the biggest space for free speech in the world.” The irony is despite all this The Don Lemon Show will still play on X as Lemon plans to post it in full on his feed – unless Musk pulls the plug on said feed.
Otherwise, you’ll have to go to YouTube and major podcast platforms like Spotify and Apple Music to see what all the fuss is about.
The X cancellation is the second time in a year that Lemon has seen a deal go south. Back in April 2023, the then-CNN This Morning co-host was suddenly axed by Warner Bros Discovery following a series of on-air missteps after 17 years with the cable news channel.
Lemon’s exit came the morning after Fox News pulled top rated Tucker Carlson off the air following the network’s $787 million settlement with Dominion Voting Systems over election fraud claims. Lemon didn’t get Dominion kinda cash out of CNN, but in February his reps confirmed the outlet paid him the full amount of the three and a half years left on his contract – a sum that has been estimated to be around $24 million.
He's a fan of freedom of speech...unless, you know, he doesn't like it.
By the way, I don't like Don Lemon either. I think he's pompous and intimates that he always has the moral high ground. I don't think he's as bad as Tucker, but he irks me a lot.
I don't disagree with you about both of these guys. But I find it rather telling that musk got outplayed by Lemon so badly he's throwing a temper tantrum over it. I think Musk would be much better served just making statements without taking any questions. He obviously can't handle opposition very well.
I dont personally care what fight Elon and Lemon have. Elon is allowed to decide which people he does business with. Lemon can always go to youtube if he gets cancelled.
You guys are hilarious.....Lemon was not taken off X. Musk ended a commercial venture with him. He can still use X to promote himself and show w/out censorship.
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X released a statement saying that Lemon’s show “is welcome to publish its content on X, without censorship, as we believe in providing a platform for creators to scale their work and connect with new communities. However, like any enterprise, we reserve the right to make decisions about our business partnerships, and after careful consideration, X decided not to enter into a commercial partnership with the show.”
But yes, let's get a chubby because the title said Elon got mad.
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The X cancellation is the second time in a year that Lemon has seen a deal go south. Back in April 2023, the then-CNN This Morning co-host was suddenly axed by Warner Bros Discovery following a series of on-air missteps after 17 years with the cable news channel.
The part you seem to be purposefully omitting is that the show was a partnership of Musk and Lemon. A statement was made by X making it clear that Musk pulled out of that partnership. Now if there was no prior contractual agreement reached and signed regarding that partnership, then Musk has every right to cancel the deal any time he wishes. However if there was a contractual agreement your presentation of the facts, or lack of all the facts as the case may be has legal implications.
They are worried about the goalposts being moved when they arent even in the stadium.
I see you are having a problem grasping the fact that this was a partnership between Musk and Lemon which the statement by X made clear Musk pulled out of. But I'm not surprised by that.
You guys are hilarious.....Lemon was not taken off X. Musk ended a commercial venture with him. He can still use X to promote himself and show w/out censorship.
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X released a statement saying that Lemon’s show “is welcome to publish its content on X, without censorship, as we believe in providing a platform for creators to scale their work and connect with new communities. However, like any enterprise, we reserve the right to make decisions about our business partnerships, and after careful consideration, X decided not to enter into a commercial partnership with the show.”
But yes, let's get a chubby because the title said Elon got mad.
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The X cancellation is the second time in a year that Lemon has seen a deal go south. Back in April 2023, the then-CNN This Morning co-host was suddenly axed by Warner Bros Discovery following a series of on-air missteps after 17 years with the cable news channel.
Maybe Lemon is the issue?
Yep, that is exactly the issue here. I got a "chubby" here because I saw that Elon got mad. Clearly the point I was trying to make was that Don Lemon was indeed cancelled and banned from Twitter, never to speak again. This has nothing to do with Elon's compulsive business decisions lately, that have all been rationally thought out, consistent, and nothing to do with how it makes him personally feel, on a platform that has clearly been unbiased. Yes, my previous post definitely displayed the high regard in which I hold Don Lemon, and how much I really respect him in his field.
As someone who owns a Tesla, clearly I have always had it out for Elon, and I was just excited once again to drag him through the mud.
They are worried about the goalposts being moved when they arent even in the stadium.
There's nothing a 12 year old wouldn't understand about this. Even they know what it sounds like when they're on the playground and someone starts babbling something that doesn't make sense.
It's a little bit of everything. Obviously the political aspect gets highlighted in this forum. I do think the guy has gone off the deep end. I'm typically not one to boycott anything because of what I think of an owner, but it certainly doesn't help in his case. Oddly enough, I love most things about the car. Technologically I think it gets a bad wrap from a lot of haters that have never even been inside one.
The one thing corresponding to the car that does really p*** me off is that I sprung for the self-drive. He has overhyped that ability so much I am beginning to wonder when the class action will hit.
In terms of innovative and technological ambition, nobody really surpasses Musk on that front. Sometimes his ambition when it comes to business writes checks that his realized sustainment can't cash. That's a problem on the business front. In terms of marketing, social media, and general personal appeal, the guy is horrible, IMO. He needs to have a good, innovative product which can sell itself, which he has been able to do successfully. However, as far as I can see, he is pretty objectively bad at taking existing products/companies and turning them around, as evidenced by Twitter. That seemed to be the linchpin that really tarnished his personal and business reputation, and he did it to himself.
I guess it's what happens when you give a d-bag a megaphone. However, given the sociopathic tendencies of most billionaires, I can't believe he'd be alone on that front. It just removes the vail. What was once thought to be just eccentric is then revealed to be far worse.
You're not talking to me, but I'll just say that reading these stories about a guy that props himself up as a "free speech absolutist" while having such ridiculously thin skin never gets old.
I think Elon acts like he’s playing on house money these days. Twitter was an absurd venture for him IMO. He neglected his other businesses for a good bit while he was wrangling that under cult like control. But it’s just hard to forget all the good crap he has done and still does on a regular basis. He’s a big player in AI too, and he’s open-sourcing his big model. But there is heavy debate rather that was to force others to do the same on a good for mankind basis or part of him positioning himself for his lawsuit against openAI for more financial reasons than doing good for mankind… either way, he advocates open-sourced AI which is huge currently with many big players starting to show their greed. So he’s a guy that’s hard to 100% hate or like either way. He is what he is…. Trumpian politics and Joe Rogan ruined liking him for many, imo. And if it weren’t for all the good he’s done in the past, the fact I used to be a huge fan, or the good he’s still doing rather purposefully or not, I’d despise the man. But I can’t because he truly hasn’t earned it. Somehow that blows my mind too.
It's definitely complex, and he goes hard in the paint in both directions. The way he's been with Ukraine has been confounding, and I think I am more worried about him swinging violently in the opposite direction on other issues, AI being one of them. Although that is a tech-centric issue and he has consistently had his head straight in that sector for as long as I can remember.
Socially, though, the guy has become quite the pot-stirrer and conspiracy theorist. With his megaphone and following, that has caused pretty immense damage.
The ex-CNN anchor sent over an astronomical wish list to Elon Musk during contract talks to host a show on the billionaire’s social media platform X – including a free Tesla Cybertruck, a $5 million upfront payment on top of an $8 million salary, an equity stake in the multibillion-dollar company, and the right to approve any changes in X policy as it relates to news content, according to a document reviewed by The Post.
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Lemon — who was expected to air an interview with Musk for next week’s debut episode on X — had also demanded a private jet flight to Las Vegas, a suite for him and his fiance, and that the company pay for their day drinking and massages, a source with knowledge of the situation said.
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The partnership was announced in January, but an X spokesperson told The Post that the company “did not have a final or signed agreement with Don Lemon or ‘The Don Lemon Show'” before Musk sat down for the explosive interview last week.
Tesla is the worst performing stock in the S&P 500. Analysts say it has further to fall
Elon Musk’s Tesla once represented the future of automaking. Now the company’s own future is in question.
The once red-hot electric vehicle maker — heralded as part of the so-called Magnificent Seven behemoth tech stocks — is currently the worst performer in the S&P 500 this year, down nearly 32% since January.
The story of Tesla’s (TSLA) decline has been well documented. The company has been plagued by safety issues and recalls, slowing growth and has even been forced to slash prices. But a new report by Wells Fargo analyst Colin Langan on Wednesday offers a darker picture than previously imagined.
Tesla, he wrote, is a “growth company with no growth.”
Langan predicts that Tesla’s growth will remain flat this year and then decline in 2025 as competition increases, deliveries disappoint and the beleaguered auto and tech company is forced to cut prices again.
UBS also downgraded its forecast for Tesla on Wednesday. Analysts said concerns are mounting as demand for electric vehicles slows and as Chinese rivals take an ever greater share of the global market.
With the exception of Tesla, all of the Magnificent Seven companies (that also includes Apple, Amazon, Meta, Google, Nvidia and Microsoft) saw double- or triple-digit earnings growth in the final three months of 2023. Tesla reported a 40% decline in profit from the year before.
Tesla has been navigating through a perfect storm. The EV environment is getting more crowded right as the company’s fundamentals have come into question. Its share price has dropped about 60% from its 2021 all-time high of $407.
But even with the recent drop in price, Tesla’s stock is still very expensive when compared to its actual earnings and profits, said Langan. The company’s former propensity for rapid growth is no longer certain, he said, and shares likely have further to fall.
Wells Fargo has lowered its price target for the stock from $200 to $125, predicting another 25% decrease in value. UBS, meanwhile, has lowered its price target to a more moderate $165 from $225.
I'm guessing that going on your social media platform and saying insidious things that most certainly turn off a lot of the U.S. consumer base isn't helping Tesla either.
I'm not so sure. Elon wouldn't post his bond and you know how vindictive he is.
DO we know for sure he didn't back the bond? I mean, anyone that would back that thing had to be able to lose it all. Musk is one of the few that could do that. Putin could, the Saudi Prince could and some others. But most business types wouldn't do it. Gates, Ma, Bezos and the like wouldn't touch it. And don't forget, Trump has to come up with another $400 something million very soon.
I'm pretty sure Musk didn't. Many companies could do it. Here is the company that did......
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X's lawsuit against hate speech watchdog group tossed by judge
A federal judge in California threw out a lawsuit filed by X, the social media platform formerly known as Twitter, against a hate speech watchdog on Monday.
Why it matters: The judge ruled the lawsuit was intended to punish the Center for Countering Digital Hate for publishing research suggesting there has been a rise in bigoted speech on the platform since Elon Musk's takeover.
Context: Through the lawsuit, X claimed that the Center for Countering Digital Hate used "flawed methodologies to advance incorrect, misleading narratives" in its reports.
It accused the center of violating the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, intentional interference with contractual relations and inducing breach of contract. The center denied those claims and accused X and Musk of retaliating against it because of its reports.
What's inside: The judge ruled on Monday that the lawsuit was "unabashedly and vociferously" about "punishing the Defendants for their speech."
The judge approved the center's request to throw out the lawsuit based on California's anti-SLAPP law, which provides defendants a way to quickly dismiss meritless lawsuits if they are being sued for actions that amount to them exercising their freedom of speech, press, assembly or petition. In addition to tossing the case, the judge also denied X Corp.'s request to re-plead the case.
What they're saying: The center said the ruling "sent a strong message about seeking to censor those who criticize social media companies, which we are confident will resonate throughout Silicon Valley and beyond."
"Today a federal court in San Francisco issued a decision in the case X brought against the Center for Countering Digital Hate for illegally obtaining platform data to create misleading research. X disagrees with the court's decision and plans to appeal," X said in a post on the social media platform.
Between the lines: Musk, a self-proclaimed free speech "absolutist," has repeatedly claimed that he would protect all forms of speech on Twitter.
In practice, however, the platform has been lenient to those who post hateful or extremist content while cracking down on speech that's critical of the platform or of Musk.
Translation; As we have seen with people of wealth and power, if they keep someone with far lesser means tied up in the legal system for long enough they will go broke and no longer have the ability to fight.
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