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Posted By: DCDAWGFAN Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/20/20 04:26 PM
Assuming they come out with a vaccine that is approved by the appropriate regulatory agencies...
Posted By: PastorMarc Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/20/20 05:41 PM
I have never taken a flu shot and won't take this one, because I was born free in America where many young men and women have given their lives to give me freedom of choice thank you all smile
Posted By: Punchsmack Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/20/20 06:00 PM
Originally Posted By: PastorMarc
I have never taken a flu shot and won't take this one, because I was born free in America where many young men and women have given their lives to give me freedom of choice thank you all smile


That could be the same reason I eat pretzels today and not cookies (because I was born free in America where many young men and women have given their lives to give me freedom of choice thank you all). What's the medical reason why you won't get the vaccine? Are you concerned it will give you the virus, it won't be effective, it's a scam, will poison you or just afraid of vaccines in general? Me, I have an autoimmune issue, so I may have to get it.

Also, the flu shot has never been mandatory and I doubt this one will be either (although, I have been reading some social media posts where people claim that a Covid19 vaccine should be mandatory and those that refuse should be jailed. The left confuses me.).
Posted By: DCDAWGFAN Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/20/20 06:37 PM
I have to agree with punch here Pastor Marc.. saying I won't get it because you can't make me is sort of a juvenile response..

I mean, you are a smart guy so I can only assume that if you thought it was actually good for your health, you would do it... so there should be a health reason why you would not comply.
Posted By: DCDAWGFAN Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/20/20 06:39 PM
My own thought is that there is a very high likelihood that I will get it. I'm probably not going to be the first to rush out and get it.. I do some international travel for work, I'm betting that a lot of other countries are going to require it before entering their country.
Posted By: PortlandDawg Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/20/20 08:12 PM
I’ll get it though likely not at first. It’d be nice to give it a few months of others getting it to see how effective it is or if there’s latent side effects. That said I may be ‘forced’ to take it as a frontline worker. I haven’t taken the flu shot each year. Which my employer looks down on. I have to sign a waiver stating I’m refusing it.
As a frontline worker the COVID vaccine will likely be free for me. I’d pay for it if I needed to though. This isn’t the flu.
Posted By: Dave Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/20/20 10:14 PM
I checked undecided because even though I'm at risk because of my age and some chronic respiratory issues, I'm also somewhat concerned with how quickly a vaccine is apparently being developed and whether it will get the vetting it should normally get. I would have to trust people I don't usually trust (doctors, government, pharmaceutical companies). I suppose I might go ahead and get it if, after the initial rollout, it appears to work without dire side effects.
Posted By: GMdawg Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/21/20 12:16 PM
I also never get the flu shot, BUT I would stand in line, and pay for a vaccine for Covid.
Posted By: oobernoober Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/21/20 03:25 PM
This is my one hangup. The speed at which they're probably going to get this vaccine out is both impressive and worrisome.
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/22/20 10:08 AM
Originally Posted By: PastorMarc
I have never taken a flu shot and won't take this one, because I was born free in America where many young men and women have given their lives to give me freedom of choice thank you all smile



God also gave us brains to make choices, good or bad. If you don't want to give your children the common vaccines against things like polio, measles, etc, it's on you when they die.

That isn't God bringing back one of the flock. That's a stupid choice.

If one can prevent a disease, I think God is all for it because I don't believe God created that. That stuff comes from Hell. The fallen angle lucifer has powers as well.
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/22/20 10:22 AM
Originally Posted By: oobernoober
This is my one hangup. The speed at which they're probably going to get this vaccine out is both impressive and worrisome.


I lean more towards worrisome. It still needs to go through proper trials. You can't rush that.
Posted By: Tulsa Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/22/20 11:51 AM
I took the Shingles vaccine, because I had Chicken Pox and my mother had Shingles. I saw what she went th rough and don't want it, even though it won't kill me.

I will take a Covid vaccine if offered, after a month or two of others getting it because I'm in the age range with prior conditions that this virus ravages and it might kill me.
Posted By: GMdawg Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/22/20 01:14 PM
If you kick the bucket I pray you do it better than this guy.

Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/22/20 01:59 PM
Why do people not get the flu shot?
Posted By: PortlandDawg Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/22/20 02:10 PM
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Why do people not get the flu shot?


I’ve opted out of it for years. I’ve been a nurse since 1997. I was 25 years old at the time. I’d have taken 23 inoculations against the flu since that time. All those have come in my healthiest years. I felt no need to get 23 vaccinations for something my body was young enough to fight off well. I’ve never gotten the flu in that entire time. As I get older I’ll likely be more apt to start taking it.
Posted By: dawg66 Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/22/20 03:39 PM
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Why do people not get the flu shot?


I never used to because I hardly ever got the flu but Jan. 2019 I got it so bad that I was down for 5 days so now I make sure to get one.
Posted By: GMdawg Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/22/20 04:47 PM
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Why do people not get the flu shot?


I have had the flu 4 times in my life. Three of the times were after my wife got a flu shot and came down with the flu, so three times she got shots in her life. All three times she and I came down with the flu. Only one other time in my life did I get the flu, so NO I don't get flu shots
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/22/20 07:59 PM
Are you saying you think the shot gave you the flu or you believe in some sort of weird cosmic coincidence?
Posted By: jaybird Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/23/20 03:40 AM
most likely I'll be required to get it at work....

I have no problem getting it if it's been throughly tested.
Posted By: DevilDawg2847 Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/23/20 07:55 AM
At this time I have no intentions of getting a Covid vaccine. Most of it I think has to do with me being a minimalist when it comes to medicine. Unless a reason specific to me can be demonstrated, I'll typically decline. I've had 4 shingles out breaks over the last few years. Each time they automatically prescribed Vicodin. I didn't take a single one because while painful, it was still within my tolerance to deal with it. I didn't see the need to take something that potent for no other reason than it was available to me. I guess generally I bought in to that belief at some point that the more unnecessary medicine you take, it causes those diseases to mutate in to something more powerful?

Flu? I've only had it maybe 3 times... and each time was as very short bout with it. The last time was probably closer to 15 years now.

The only time I got the flu shot was when I was in the service. I didn't really have a choice at that time anyway. I think they snuck it in somewhere between the anthrax and small pox vaccines.

Things may change as I get older, so who knows.
Posted By: DevilDawg2847 Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/23/20 08:00 AM
Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
Originally Posted By: oobernoober
This is my one hangup. The speed at which they're probably going to get this vaccine out is both impressive and worrisome.


I lean more towards worrisome. It still needs to go through proper trials. You can't rush that.


Well let's say we do get one by January. That would be exceptionally fast. Assuming it's good to go, would that mean we got lucky? Or would it lend credence to the criticism of the FDA that they force an unreasonably long time frame and testing protocol?
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/23/20 07:54 PM
Considering all of the drugs that get recalled and manufacturers being sued for side effects, it appears the FDA is far more yes men for drug manufacturers than there to protect the American consumer.
Posted By: Dave Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/23/20 08:33 PM
I'm always amazed at the laundry list of possible side effects in the disclaimer at the end of commercials for new prescription drugs. Things like lymphoma, hepatitis, rare brain infections, etc. I saw an ad on TV for a drug to treat Irritable Bowel Syndrome that had such a long list of possible serious side effects it made me think I would rather just pack an extra pair of underwear if I had IBS.
Posted By: EveDawg Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/23/20 09:42 PM
Stop kissing animals on the head and you wont get the flu/cold.
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/24/20 05:21 AM
Originally Posted By: EveDawg
Stop kissing animals on the head and you wont get the flu/cold.


What.
Posted By: EveDawg Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/24/20 08:52 PM
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Originally Posted By: EveDawg
Stop kissing animals on the head and you wont get the flu/cold.


What.


People snuggle and kiss their pets. Their coats are full of germs.

I used to get colds all the time. Then I stopped kissing my dog on the head and havent had a cold in years.
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/24/20 09:46 PM
Originally Posted By: EveDawg
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Originally Posted By: EveDawg
Stop kissing animals on the head and you wont get the flu/cold.


What.


People snuggle and kiss their pets. Their coats are full of germs.

I used to get colds all the time. Then I stopped kissing my dog on the head and havent had a cold in years.


This might be the craziest thing I’ve ever seen anyone post on here.
Posted By: EveDawg Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/24/20 09:49 PM
I guess you dont have pets.
Posted By: THROW LONG Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/24/20 09:52 PM
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Originally Posted By: EveDawg
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Originally Posted By: EveDawg
Stop kissing animals on the head and you wont get the flu/cold.


What.


People snuggle and kiss their pets. Their coats are full of germs.

I used to get colds all the time. Then I stopped kissing my dog on the head and havent had a cold in years.


This might be the craziest thing I’ve ever seen anyone post on here.

Ya. rolleyes thumbsup ... ... There's no way this is the craziest thing ever posted on here. rofl
Posted By: THROW LONG Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/24/20 10:04 PM
To the original posters question.

Let's suppose I get contact with the virus, and become contagious, then get the vaccine,
then appear to recover from symptoms and treat the world as though I'm no longer contagious,

then put anyone around at more risk of exposure as, can we be sure a vaccine would stop someone innoculated from being contagious.

All we hear is this is a very transimissable thing, I don't think we hear an agreed upon time frame a person is conatagious,

Personally I've felt contagious to others since about, well when I learned of this in March, felt a bunch of us had it in December, and since I started taking temperatures have gone in and out of fever without many other symptoms. Such that.

If someone is contagious for months, and even possibly after vaccinated,
if everybody starts playing twister after inoculation day it could be bad.
(What! I was going to say "ookie mouth" rofl)
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/24/20 10:57 PM
https://www.dawgtalkers.net/ubbthreads.php/topics/1645824/our-dogs#Post1645824

How many people are petting your dog besides you? If they are petting your dog are they, before petting your dog, licking their hands and/or picking their nose?

The cold and flu are transmitted through droplets. A person would have to have the cold/flu, pet your dog with dirty hands, transmit enough droplets to get you sick, and then you would have to kiss the dog on the exact spot the person petted.
Posted By: EveDawg Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/24/20 11:25 PM
Go kiss your dog and tell me if you dont get sick. Viruses
have many vectors.
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/24/20 11:56 PM
Originally Posted By: EveDawg
Go kiss your dog and tell me if you dont get sick. Viruses
have many vectors.


Considering no one else has pet my dog in more than two months I think I’ll be safe.

(I can’t believe this is a real thing a real person believes.)
Posted By: EveDawg Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/25/20 12:51 AM
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Originally Posted By: EveDawg
Go kiss your dog and tell me if you dont get sick. Viruses
have many vectors.


Considering no one else has pet my dog in more than two months I think I’ll be safe.

(I can’t believe this is a real thing a real person believes.)


Does your dog play in your yard? Does it roll around in the grass and the dirt? Does it lick things and then lick itself?

I can believe someone on here somehow thinks their dog's fur is sterile.
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/25/20 01:57 AM
Originally Posted By: EveDawg
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Originally Posted By: EveDawg
Go kiss your dog and tell me if you dont get sick. Viruses
have many vectors.


Considering no one else has pet my dog in more than two months I think I’ll be safe.

(I can’t believe this is a real thing a real person believes.)


Does your dog play in your yard? Does it roll around in the grass and the dirt? Does it lick things and then lick itself?

I can believe someone on here somehow thinks their dog's fur is sterile.


The cold and/or flu is not in my backyard.
Posted By: EveDawg Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/25/20 02:07 AM
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Originally Posted By: EveDawg
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Originally Posted By: EveDawg
Go kiss your dog and tell me if you dont get sick. Viruses
have many vectors.


Considering no one else has pet my dog in more than two months I think I’ll be safe.

(I can’t believe this is a real thing a real person believes.)


Does your dog play in your yard? Does it roll around in the grass and the dirt? Does it lick things and then lick itself?

I can believe someone on here somehow thinks their dog's fur is sterile.


The cold and/or flu is not in my backyard.


Kiss your dog and report back to us please. Then report to the Dr's office. lol
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/25/20 02:10 AM
Originally Posted By: EveDawg
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Originally Posted By: EveDawg
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Originally Posted By: EveDawg
Go kiss your dog and tell me if you dont get sick. Viruses
have many vectors.


Considering no one else has pet my dog in more than two months I think I’ll be safe.

(I can’t believe this is a real thing a real person believes.)


Does your dog play in your yard? Does it roll around in the grass and the dirt? Does it lick things and then lick itself?

I can believe someone on here somehow thinks their dog's fur is sterile.


The cold and/or flu is not in my backyard.


Kiss your dog and report back to us please. Then report to the Dr's office. lol


I literally kiss my dog on his head between his eyes everyday.
Posted By: JulesDawg Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/25/20 02:19 AM
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Originally Posted By: EveDawg
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Originally Posted By: EveDawg
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Originally Posted By: EveDawg
Go kiss your dog and tell me if you dont get sick. Viruses
have many vectors.


Considering no one else has pet my dog in more than two months I think I’ll be safe.

(I can’t believe this is a real thing a real person believes.)


Does your dog play in your yard? Does it roll around in the grass and the dirt? Does it lick things and then lick itself?

I can believe someone on here somehow thinks their dog's fur is sterile.


The cold and/or flu is not in my backyard.


Kiss your dog and report back to us please. Then report to the Dr's office. lol


I literally kiss my dog on his head between his eyes everyday.



Me too. And I haven’t had even a cold in almost 3 years. That’s with traveling and flying a lot also. I guess by that logic, I need to kiss them more.....
Posted By: EveDawg Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/25/20 02:32 AM
Maybe I just have filthy dogs then. lol

I haven't been sick since I stopped kissing them.
Posted By: PerfectSpiral Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/25/20 01:18 PM
Wow ...currently 3 people would choose to kill the other 34 who responded. Deplorable.
Posted By: Dave Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/25/20 05:23 PM
Originally Posted By: PerfectSpiral
Wow ...currently 3 people would choose to kill the other 34 who responded. Deplorable.


Assuming the vaccine is effective, how does one individual not taking the vaccine put the people who did take it at risk?
Posted By: ExclDawg Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/25/20 09:12 PM
Originally Posted By: Dave
Originally Posted By: PerfectSpiral
Wow ...currently 3 people would choose to kill the other 34 who responded. Deplorable.


Assuming the vaccine is effective, how does one individual not taking the vaccine put the people who did take it at risk?


It won't, but if he doesn't use "deplorable" or "pfft Trump" in a post, he gets kicked off the board.
Posted By: oobernoober Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/26/20 03:28 PM
Originally Posted By: THROW LONG
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Originally Posted By: EveDawg
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Originally Posted By: EveDawg
Stop kissing animals on the head and you wont get the flu/cold.


What.


People snuggle and kiss their pets. Their coats are full of germs.

I used to get colds all the time. Then I stopped kissing my dog on the head and havent had a cold in years.


This might be the craziest thing I’ve ever seen anyone post on here.

Ya. rolleyes thumbsup ... ... There's no way this is the craziest thing ever posted on here. rofl


THROWLONG is my favorite....
Posted By: jaybird Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/27/20 02:37 AM
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Originally Posted By: EveDawg
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Originally Posted By: EveDawg
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Originally Posted By: EveDawg
Go kiss your dog and tell me if you dont get sick. Viruses
have many vectors.


Considering no one else has pet my dog in more than two months I think I’ll be safe.

(I can’t believe this is a real thing a real person believes.)


Does your dog play in your yard? Does it roll around in the grass and the dirt? Does it lick things and then lick itself?

I can believe someone on here somehow thinks their dog's fur is sterile.


The cold and/or flu is not in my backyard.


Kiss your dog and report back to us please. Then report to the Dr's office. lol


I literally kiss my dog on his head between his eyes everyday.


Seriously... my two dogs kiss me in the face nightly and sleep in my bed... haven’t had the cold or flu in years
Posted By: TTTDawg Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/27/20 11:38 PM
I checked "undecided".

After sitting in the waiting room outside of Richmond Heights Emergency Room and listening to my grandfather die from complications from the Swine Flu shot he received that 1976 election day morning, etc, etc.....

Dunno.....

Then again, the 2 RN's(wife & daughter) in our family might twist my arm "just enough" for me to get it. willynilly
Posted By: DevilDawg2847 Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/28/20 01:13 AM
Originally Posted By: PerfectSpiral
Wow ...currently 3 people would choose to kill the other 34 who responded. Deplorable.


Holy Cow you're right! Not only did they manage to add a member to their suicidal death cult (it's now 4!) but according to the poll total of 30 answers... carry the 1.... 4 DTers have been killed by them!

smh lol
Posted By: DevilDawg2847 Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/28/20 01:20 AM
Originally Posted By: TTTDawg
I checked "undecided".

After sitting in the waiting room outside of Richmond Heights Emergency Room and listening to my grandfather die from complications from the Swine Flu shot he received that 1976 election day morning, etc, etc.....

Dunno.....

Then again, the 2 RN's(wife & daughter) in our family might twist my arm "just enough" for me to get it. willynilly


If you don't mind me asking, do either your wife or daughter ever have opinions or beliefs that may run counter to the "conventional wisdom" of things like these? Being a first responder a lot of my fellow officers are married to RN's and such, and throughout the years I've gotten the impression that even the medical professionals aren't always on board or in agreement with some of these recommendations for things like vaccines. I remember back with H1N1 I think it was, that vaccines were being recommended but a lot of the nurses we knew didn't have any intention of getting it.
Posted By: DevilDawg2847 Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/28/20 01:22 AM
Originally Posted By: DevilDawg2847
Originally Posted By: PerfectSpiral
Wow ...currently 3 people would choose to kill the other 34 who responded. Deplorable.


Holy Cow you're right! Not only did they manage to add a member to their suicidal death cult (it's now 4!) but according to the poll total of 30 answers... carry the 1.... 4 DTers have been killed by them!

smh lol


Actually full disclosure... it's still just 3. The 4th vote was pulled from the voting rolls that have yet to be purged of the deceased.
Posted By: PrplPplEater Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/28/20 05:21 PM
I don't do the flu shot; I'm not going to do this one, either.
There's no value in it, to me.

One way or another, I'm exceptionally likely to get it before a vaccine comes available. If I do, then I won't need the vaccine at all as I will have antibodies. If the antibodies don't last, then it is the same as the flu - why bother when half the time they don't even innoculate for the strain you get? If the antibodies do last.. again, I don't need it.

In the unlikely event that I not only don't get it before there is a vaccine, but I also happen to KNOW that I haven't gotten it, then there is little reason to get the vaccine as there will be so many people that HAVE gotten it that the likelihood of it still being widely transmissable are quite low, so my chances of getting something I don't care if I get are even lower than they would have been otherwise.
Posted By: DevilDawg2847 Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 05/29/20 12:39 AM
Originally Posted By: PrplPplEater
I don't do the flu shot; I'm not going to do this one, either.
There's no value in it, to me.

One way or another, I'm exceptionally likely to get it before a vaccine comes available. If I do, then I won't need the vaccine at all as I will have antibodies. If the antibodies don't last, then it is the same as the flu - why bother when half the time they don't even innoculate for the strain you get? If the antibodies do last.. again, I don't need it.

In the unlikely event that I not only don't get it before there is a vaccine, but I also happen to KNOW that I haven't gotten it, then there is little reason to get the vaccine as there will be so many people that HAVE gotten it that the likelihood of it still being widely transmissable are quite low, so my chances of getting something I don't care if I get are even lower than they would have been otherwise.



You're a mad man Purp....
Posted By: Bard Dawg Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 06/03/20 04:55 PM
This isn't some artificial and ideological issue with me. I am one of those folks who checks multiple boxes on the higher risk list, and so it is self-defense for me, and I would do it to protect my wife. Our doctor talked to her about some medical issues last week and was told she had nine or ten of the symptoms for the virus (her illness was in January) and probably had it. I got sick after she wore me down for two weeks. Not sure if either of us had it, but it was nasty.

I want to feel safer. I am tired of talking head experts, all who act like they know, but our numbers in all categories rise. I think the stupidity of the politics is shameful. We can't know unless we test; our choices now are Act of God, stroke of luck, kismet and karma, cross your fingers. There will need to be some verification to get back to normal of some type. I will get this vaccine, and hope it helps. I dread all the progress being lost by premature "opening" I see around me. People are my priority first.
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 06/04/20 06:05 AM
Originally Posted By: dawg66
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Why do people not get the flu shot?


I never used to because I hardly ever got the flu but Jan. 2019 I got it so bad that I was down for 5 days so now I make sure to get one.


That is what it takes for some people.

When you feel like your brains are going to bust out with every cough, you lay there and think, "Man, I should have taken the shot", so since around age 42 or so, I have.

And as you, I am at the age where something is going to kill me. I am talking normal things, not a car wreck or falling off a roof....ok, a wreck could still happen, not a roof fall.

I don't want it because I didn't get a shot of prevention.

I am not sure we find a vaccine. We have reached a turning point. Too many people on this earth to sustain.
Posted By: TTTDawg Re: Coronavirus Vaccine - 06/06/20 08:44 PM
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Why do people not get the flu shot?


In another thread I described when my grandmother and I listened, in the Richmond Heights Hospital Emergency waiting room from about 12-15' away as my grandfather died in 1976 on election day from complications of the swine flu shot.

"Hang in there Mr. P.....

"HANG IN THERE".

SILENCE......

From my perspective, just the memories I guess.

Others have their own reasons.
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