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We should know by Halloween if they work and to what extent. The next round of trials for the two biggest candidates (Oxford and Moderna) wrap up around then.

Yeah, but I would think they would have a good idea before then. At the very least, they're looking into this specifically and can share how they're going to figure it out.

Both leading candidate vaccines have been shown to work on a small scale. So the early results are good.

Should be better to see in the next phase how well it works across 30k people as compared to 30 people.

Plus my October we can see how a vaccine designed to work with the January strain compares to whatever is floating around in November.

j/c...

Karen Kasler
@karenkasler
.@GovMikeDeWine
speech on COVID-19 at 5:30, and here are today's Ohio numbers:
2,819 confirmed deaths: 6 new, same as yesterday
3,075 total deaths: 256 probables
65,287 confirmed cases: 1,274 new cases, up from 1,100 yesterday
69,311 total cases: 4,024 probables

Karen Kasler
@karenkasler
Other breakdowns:
1,027 current hospitalizations (1,107 yesterday)
316 in ICU (up from 314 yesterday)
146 on ventilators (down from 156 yesterday)
1,020,811 total tests administered: 18,832 new; 18,956 new yesterday
Positivity rate (as of July 13) 5.3%; 7-day moving average 6.4%

https://twitter.com/karenkasler/status/1283463136532508672

Are we expecting DeWine to drop the hammer in his later-than-usual PC?

The last thing that I would want to do is contribute to the anti-vaxxer idiocy. The point of the article is to not put the cart before the horse. There are still a lot of questions yet to answered.

1, is it safe? At this point here have been no significant adverse reactions reported but the numbers of people exposed is small. Also, will there be any delayed reactions? Not much time has passed.

2, yes, all people exposed developed antibodies. Are those neutralizing antibodies? Are they produced is sufficient quantities to confer protection? How long will the immunity last? Will we need a booster? Will we need annual covid shots with our annual flu shot?

3, once we have those answers an an adequate vaccine has been developed, how long will it take to ramp up production? We are still struggled getting adequate tests, why wouls vaccine production be that much more efficient?

To date, the fastest a vaccine development has achieved all of that has been 4 years. I am not familiar with the modalities that Oxford/AstraZeneca are using but Moderna is using a novel technology. This gives both promise and pause. The promise is that maybe we can develop a vaccine at an unprecedented speed. The pause is that there have yet to be a vaccine developed using this technology. Though reportedly they have several promising candidates in the pipeline.

I think to sum up my feelings on the current vaccines being developed is to move forward with both hope and caution.

j/c...

I think this will become the norm.

I'm guessing a potential move to Level 4.

Only if killing people off at an even faster rate is the goal.

Yeah, hopefully the next phase gives us a better idea.



They were neutralizing to the level or exceeded those who recovered from covid. As per the rest is something that hasn't been released, nor do I think any of us will know until two years or so from now.



From what I've read, the vaccines are being produced as we speak. Yeah could be a giant coloassal waste of money to make something that doesn't work, but the vats for Oxford and Moderna are churning out enough to hopefully cover the entire world population by the end of the year.

There's been other talks about how syringe production may not match vaccine production, but I haven't read into that too much.

Moderna's and Oxford are both mRNA based. I'm blown away by the tech. It's super interesting. I hope it works as I read it could do a lot for cancer and HIV/AIDS if effective for covid.

Not following you here. Level 4 is the worst level.

https://coronavirus.ohio.gov/wps/portal/gov/covid-19/public-health-advisory-system/

At least, that's how I read it.

all level four ads is the suggestion that folks stay home.

I think that he thought Memphis meant Phase 4

Well then, that makes the 4 'levels' as dumb as the color chart showing risk of terrorist attack a number of years ago.

yep

Yep. My mistake.